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1 hour ago, Taffin said:

 

No, it isn't.

 

You mean the selfish people who won't do what you want them to do with their bodies? The irony.

 

I'm double vaccinated, it's nothing to do with me if anyone else decides to go down the same path as me on that, or not. I've done all I can to mitigate my personal risk and I'll go to things happy in that knowledge and not get my knickers in a twist whether the person next to me has had one jag, two jags or none at all. If it was a concern for me, I'd stay at home rather than selfishly think others should look after me by doing things they don't want to.

 

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Just now, Back to 2005 said:

How would you describe coercion? 

Being forced to do something you don't want to do.

You have the choice. 

If you have strong ideological reasons for not being vaccinated,  fine, nobody is coercing you.

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Just now, luckydug said:

To avoid the need for a lockdown and empty stadiums. 

I think I’ll need to contradict my earlier post on this. Still trying to decipher the proposal but, if I’m reading it right, any event with more than 10K would need to adhere to this new ruling.

Does that mean that the likes of St Mirren, Hamilton, Livi etc would be unaffected ?

If so, this will be binned before the vote even takes place !

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2 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

This isn't going to lead to a two tier system in every aspect of life, there's just going to be some restrictions in certain circumstances to help prevent others getting severely unwell, or worse.  

You don't think that politicians are doing this for the sake of it rather than what they say it is intended for?  

No one is bringing in these restrictions because they want to, it's because they think they are doing the right thing in the circumstances. 

Not many businesses will go bust if they refuse entry as most have been vaccinated.  

You do agree that forcing businesses owners to accept those who have been vaccinated is also fascist?  

No that's normal.

So as it stands I could go for a pint in the tynie Arms but not the game. Does this not strike you as complete nonsense? 

In France you need to be vaxced to buy food. Do you think that is acceptable? Where does it end? 

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3 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

No that's normal.

So as it stands I could go for a pint in the tynie Arms but not the game. Does this not strike you as complete nonsense? 

In France you need to be vaxced to buy food. Do you think that is acceptable? Where does it end? 

Do you really want to be banned from pubs too?

That's the more likely outcome. 

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1 hour ago, Taffin said:

 

No, it isn't.

 

You mean the selfish people who won't do what you want them to do with their bodies? The irony.

 

I'm double vaccinated, it's nothing to do with me if anyone else decides to go down the same path as me on that, or not. I've done all I can to mitigate my personal risk and I'll go to things happy in that knowledge and not get my knickers in a twist whether the person next to me has had one jag, two jags or none at all. If it was a concern for me, I'd stay at home rather than selfishly think others should look after me by doing things they don't want to.

 

Taffin landing some big shots after the ref had already stopped the fight.

 

Well said.

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

But it does. It's not completely effective but it:

Cuts the chances of people getting it.

Reduces the effect if they do.

Cuts the risk of passing it on.

 

The point is you could be sitting beside someone who isn't vaccinated for medical reasons. 

You have chosen not to be. You voted have it, without showing symptoms because you're young and healthy (and apparently they are immune).

You pass it on with serious consequences for the other person.

 

The vulnerable sitting beside a vaccined person can catch it. Infact there would be more chance of a vaccined person passing it to vulnerable than a unvaccinated person who provides a negative test as he’s isn’t a risk, the vaccine simply can’t do that. Makes no sense to me to not have the option of a negative test. 
 

His point on flu jab is similar to reasons I hear for folk refusing the vaccine. 
polio vaccine guaranteed immunity in the majority for a decade.

The covid vaccine must do the same otherwise what is the point will continue to be the attitude of many. 

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3 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

Do you really want to be banned from pubs too?

That's the more likely outcome. 

It will happen. Before we get locked down for the winter anyway.

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1 minute ago, Back to 2005 said:

No that's normal.

So as it stands I could go for a pint in the tynie Arms but not the game. Does this not strike you as complete nonsense? 

In France you need to be vaxced to buy food. Do you think that is acceptable? Where does it end? 

It ends if as many people as possible get vaccinated and stick to whatever guidelines there are.  

There are anomalies in these restrictions but they aren't there because someone in the Scottish government just wants control.

I think it's up to you if you don't want vaccinated, but it's also the right of businesses to decide they won't to refuse them entry.  

The majority have had their jags so I can't see many businesses going bust if they decide to only allow entry to those vaccinated.  

I'm am amazed that you think this is like segregation in the past.  No ones is being refused anything because of how they were born, only because some are trying to get us out of this as much as they can.

Do you think they are making these decisions just to control things?  

Good time to open a business that only serves the unvaccinated.  You'd make a killing.  

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Just now, Back to 2005 said:

It will happen. Before we get locked down for the winter anyway.

Aye and folk like you make it more likely. 

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2 minutes ago, SuperstarSteve said:

The vulnerable sitting beside a vaccined person can catch it. Infact there would be more chance of a vaccined person passing it to vulnerable than a unvaccinated person who provides a negative test as he’s isn’t a risk, the vaccine simply can’t do that. Makes no sense to me to not have the option of a negative test. 
 

His point on flu jab is similar to reasons I hear for folk refusing the vaccine. 
polio vaccine guaranteed immunity in the majority for a decade.

The covid vaccine must do the same otherwise what is the point will continue to be the attitude of many. 

How do you know folk have a negative test?

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Well this is the kind of thread that brings out the absolute worst on JKB. Bet mods have had fun with this one :lol: 

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1 minute ago, Hmfc1965 said:

Aye and folk like you make it more likely. 

It's amazing that they can't see this.  They'll moan at another winter lockdown but still won't get vaccinated.   Weird. 

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2 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

Aye and folk like you make it more likely. 

Actually its the acceptance of the likes of yourself that does.  

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Just now, Auldbenches said:

It's amazing that they can't see this.  They'll moan at another winter lockdown but still won't get vaccinated.   Weird. 

How many people need to be vaccinated? We have over 90% of people vaxxed and still the cases are going up. 

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1 minute ago, Hmfc1965 said:

How do you know folk have a negative test?

You can provide a test within 24hours on entry. As long as the test taken is suitable for the government it should be accepted. 
 

I’ve stuck to staying indoors and work but I’m pretty sure the negative test has been used elsewhere worldwide for travelling etc. Why no football? 

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2 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

Actually its the acceptance of the likes of yourself that does.  

It really isn't. 

I've thought most of the SG actions have been an overreaction and an opportunity for them to exercise control as they like to do.

This seems proportionate. 

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6 hours ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

 

Sorry but that is just absoloute crap,the vaccine does not stop you catching Covid or spreading it,So how can you pose a bigger risk?It's a personal choice,and if somebody chooses not be vaccinated it is entirely their discretion and they should not be discriminated against.

Its my understanding that there is some truth in what you say, I have had my two jabs, and I was led to believe that I could still all circumstances being present be inflicted by COVID but the symptoms would be much less, and definitely not likely to prove fatal. If during my time of contracting the disease I could if not taking the precautions I am very prepared to do, maintain distances, wear my mask, and be aware of all the cautions, actions, and disciplines such as a person with a normal sense of responsibility will do I feel that I am reasonably safe and anyone who has contact with me can feel the same.

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Just now, SuperstarSteve said:

You can provide a test within 24hours on entry. As long as the test taken is suitable for the government it should be accepted. 
 

I’ve stuck to staying indoors and work but I’m pretty sure the negative test has been used elsewhere worldwide for travelling etc. Why no football? 

Because you can record a negative LFT without actually taking it.

If you believe that you're immune anyway because you're young and fit and/or it's a government conspiracy would you have any qualms about doing that?

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1 minute ago, Back to 2005 said:

How many people need to be vaccinated? We have over 90% of people vaxxed and still the cases are going up. 

As many as is needed. If that is 99% then so be it.   Is it not the case that most being in hospital with it are those unvaccinated?  

You have a choice.  Get the vaccine and get the benefits, or don't and accept that you won't have the choices that others have.  It's up to you but that is the choice you have.  

Unless there are genuine health reasons for not getting jagged.  

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7 hours ago, Ex member of the SaS said:

Just another lie from the government who said they were not considering passports. They also stated things would be back to normal after level zero, but masks are still mandatory. How many lies can they get away with?

As for a passport for Tynie as the event ( game ) is out doors will that even count?

 The policy is quite wellspead here in Canada.

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Just now, Hmfc1965 said:

Because you can record a negative LFT without actually taking it.

If you believe that you're immune anyway because you're young and fit and/or it's a government conspiracy would you have any qualms about doing that?

If that’s the case why are people allowed to travel into country after providing negative tests? 
 

I mean if they they can be negative without actually taking it like you say? So it’s ok for travelling into country but not football? 
 

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22 minutes ago, Boab said:

I think I’ll need to contradict my earlier post on this. Still trying to decipher the proposal but, if I’m reading it right, any event with more than 10K would need to adhere to this new ruling.

Does that mean that the likes of St Mirren, Hamilton, Livi etc would be unaffected ?

If so, this will be binned before the vote even takes place !

Its not up to the clubs. 

They will just have to follow the law. 

The proposal will pass through SP easily imo. 

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Just now, SuperstarSteve said:

If that’s the case why are people allowed to travel into country after providing negative tests? 
 

I mean if they they can be negative without actually taking it like you say? So it’s ok for travelling into country but not football? 
 

Do they not insist on PCR tests to enter the country?

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4 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

How many people need to be vaccinated? We have over 90% of people vaxxed and still the cases are going up. 

 

That's quite a good point. If 100% were vaxxed tomorrow and cases are still the highest in Europe, what next? Leitch was on Radio Scotland between 0900-1000 on Monday morning saying he wasn't worried about outdoor venues, 48 hours later and boom. Is this just the final push for that 10%?

 

 

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Just now, Hmfc1965 said:

Do they not insist on PCR tests to enter the country?

Could they not do the same regarding football? At the expense of the person attending? 

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Just now, SuperstarSteve said:

Could they not do the same regarding football? At the expense of the person attending? 

They could. That would actually be the most reliable way of ensuring folk aren't carrying it.

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Just now, Hmfc1965 said:

They could. That would actually be the most reliable way of ensuring folk aren't carrying it.

That’s what I believe is the fairest way granted I don’t know how possible or costly it would be. 

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Just now, SuperstarSteve said:

That’s what I believe is the fairest way granted I don’t know how possible or costly it would be. 

Me neither to be fair.

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I haven't complied with any of the restrictions.

I've travelled wherever I wanted, I don't wear a mask and haven't, I choose not to use hand sanitiser, I've never adhered to social distancing, I haven't down loaded the NHS app, when I go to a restaurant the name I give is made up as is my telephone  number also. I didn't and nor will I ever clap for the NHS. I am anti vax and proud to be so and will under no circumstances be coerced. I don't watch television nor do I listen to radio news, I don't read newspapers either and have never voted. 

 

I don't inflict my views on others and welcome those offering me this same respect. If I'm not permitted to enter stadia then so be it.

The whole thing has been an exercise in nothing more than mind control, brainwashing and a fear driven agenda in order to subtley withdraw our rights, dehumanise us, and initiate state control over things that in the passed we took for granted. 

Just remember your compliance in all of this is leading to a future  which I'll be able to honestly and truthfully declare I had no part in creating. The grip of fear is determined by those of you insisting others are a threat to you.

 

For those calling out others on here for being selfish, a honest look in the mirror and some time connecting your brain, mind , mouth and body is prescribed.

 

The thing for me to understand is how can you fail to see it?

What are you gaining by adhering to the nonsense? Why do you continue to support policies which have been continually extended and manipulated.

What part of you and your life is it supporting? 

Finally, how anybody,after all of this, support a government in anything who dealt with the aged population in such a way just over a year ago tells me everything about how successful their dehumanising programme has been and how lacking in  basic common sense and the ability to discern truth from rhetoric is astounding. 

 

Those supporting such measures have been " done up like a kipper" , the sad thing is your compliance is a danger to me, you and future generations.

 

Enjoy the game!

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

I haven't complied with any of the restrictions.

I've travelled wherever I wanted, I don't wear a mask and haven't, I choose not to use hand sanitiser, I've never adhered to social distancing, I haven't down loaded the NHS app, when I go to a restaurant the name I give is made up as is my telephone  number also. I didn't and nor will I ever clap for the NHS. I am anti vax and proud to be so and will under no circumstances be coerced. I don't watch television nor do I listen to radio news, I don't read newspapers either and have never voted. 

 

I don't inflict my views on others and welcome those offering me this same respect. If I'm not permitted to enter stadia then so be it.

The whole thing has been an exercise in nothing more than mind control, brainwashing and a fear driven agenda in order to subtley withdraw our rights, dehumanise us, and initiate state control over things that in the passed we took for granted. 

Just remember your compliance in all of this is leading to a future  which I'll be able to honestly and truthfully declare I had no part in creating. The grip of fear is determined by those of you insisting others are a threat to you.

 

For those calling out others on here for being selfish, a honest look in the mirror and some time connecting your brain, mind , mouth and body is prescribed.

 

The thing for me to understand is how can you fail to see it?

What are you gaining by adhering to the nonsense? Why do you continue to support policies which have been continually extended and manipulated.

What part of you and your life is it supporting? 

Finally, how anybody,after all of this, support a government in anything who dealt with the aged population in such a way just over a year ago tells me everything about how successful their dehumanising programme has been and how lacking in  basic common sense and the ability to discern truth from rhetoric is astounding. 

 

Those supporting such measures have been " done up like a kipper" , the sad thing is your compliance is a danger to me, you and future generations.

 

Enjoy the game!

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

As many as is needed. If that is 99% then so be it.   Is it not the case that most being in hospital with it are those unvaccinated?  

You have a choice.  Get the vaccine and get the benefits, or don't and accept that you won't have the choices that others have.  It's up to you but that is the choice you have.  

Unless there are genuine health reasons for not getting jagged.  

81% of covid deaths were vaxxed. July/August 

200 double vaxxed 

20 one vaxx

51 no vaccine. 

Source public health Scotland.

 

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31 minutes ago, Dean Winchester said:

Well this is the kind of thread that brings out the absolute worst on JKB. Bet mods have had fun with this one :lol: 

Anyone non vaxers should be banned 😂

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2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Anyone non vaxers should be banned 😂

Wouldn’t go that far. However the ones who complain that the rest of us “sheeple” have been brainwashed by science and research are the same ones who have been brainwashed by numbskulls like Katie Hopkins. 
 

Couldn’t make it up. Absolute belters. 
 

I’ll enjoy the game at the stadium. They can enjoy the 48 seconds we get on Sportscene. 

 

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Just now, Captain Lithuania said:

Wouldn’t go that far. However the ones who complain that the rest of us “sheeple” have been brainwashed by science and research are the same ones who have been brainwashed by numbskulls like Katie Hopkins. 
 

Couldn’t make it up. Absolute belters. 

😷😂😷😅😷🤔🐑

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22 minutes ago, Hmfc1965 said:

Do they not insist on PCR tests to enter the country?

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-for-people-travelling-to-england

 

can't comment on Scotland but depending on where you are certain countries have lateral flow tests that meet the standards requires - Germany for example provides LFT that meets those specs and will send you the results required without charging you a bean. What you can't do is self test and go 'I'm all good mate'.

 

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This thread has confirmed a few of my fears and if people want to call them conspiracy theories then bash on. 
 

We are truly screwed as a society it’s as simple as that. 
 

The way that rational human beings are behaving around covid makes me very very sad. It is an utter delusion. 

 

It is clear to me now that the Government could come out with literally anything and some people will just do it/go for it, no questions asked, no debate. Just call it a crisis and say something/anything about the NHS and we are off to the races. 
 

Dangerous times ahead.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism is creeping in the west and people need to wake up to it very quickly. 

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45 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

It will happen. Before we get locked down for the winter anyway.

True 

40 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

Actually its the acceptance of the likes of yourself that does.  

Exactly . They have been like canon fodder and sheepishly done what the Govt told them too and we are even in a worse state now . Fools 

30 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

 

That's quite a good point. If 100% were vaxxed tomorrow and cases are still the highest in Europe, what next? Leitch was on Radio Scotland between 0900-1000 on Monday morning saying he wasn't worried about outdoor venues, 48 hours later and boom. Is this just the final push for that 10%?

 

 

Yes I saw. That . He’s a Sturgeon stooge just like Bauld and Sirdha ( funny how the last one has crawled out the wood work again this week ) she’s a sturgeon zealot 

16 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

I haven't complied with any of the restrictions.

I've travelled wherever I wanted, I don't wear a mask and haven't, I choose not to use hand sanitiser, I've never adhered to social distancing, I haven't down loaded the NHS app, when I go to a restaurant the name I give is made up as is my telephone  number also. I didn't and nor will I ever clap for the NHS. I am anti vax and proud to be so and will under no circumstances be coerced. I don't watch television nor do I listen to radio news, I don't read newspapers either and have never voted. 

 

I don't inflict my views on others and welcome those offering me this same respect. If I'm not permitted to enter stadia then so be it.

The whole thing has been an exercise in nothing more than mind control, brainwashing and a fear driven agenda in order to subtley withdraw our rights, dehumanise us, and initiate state control over things that in the passed we took for granted. 

Just remember your compliance in all of this is leading to a future  which I'll be able to honestly and truthfully declare I had no part in creating. The grip of fear is determined by those of you insisting others are a threat to you.

 

For those calling out others on here for being selfish, a honest look in the mirror and some time connecting your brain, mind , mouth and body is prescribed.

 

The thing for me to understand is how can you fail to see it?

What are you gaining by adhering to the nonsense? Why do you continue to support policies which have been continually extended and manipulated.

What part of you and your life is it supporting? 

Finally, how anybody,after all of this, support a government in anything who dealt with the aged population in such a way just over a year ago tells me everything about how successful their dehumanising programme has been and how lacking in  basic common sense and the ability to discern truth from rhetoric is astounding. 

 

Those supporting such measures have been " done up like a kipper" , the sad thing is your compliance is a danger to me, you and future generations.

 

Enjoy the game!

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

81% of covid deaths were vaxxed. July/August 

200 double vaxxed 

20 one vaxx

51 no vaccine. 

Source public health Scotland.

 

and I bet a massive percentage were over the 65 age 

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21 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

I haven't complied with any of the restrictions.

I've travelled wherever I wanted, I don't wear a mask and haven't, I choose not to use hand sanitiser, I've never adhered to social distancing, I haven't down loaded the NHS app, when I go to a restaurant the name I give is made up as is my telephone  number also. I didn't and nor will I ever clap for the NHS. I am anti vax and proud to be so and will under no circumstances be coerced. I don't watch television nor do I listen to radio news, I don't read newspapers either and have never voted. 

 

I don't inflict my views on others and welcome those offering me this same respect. If I'm not permitted to enter stadia then so be it.

The whole thing has been an exercise in nothing more than mind control, brainwashing and a fear driven agenda in order to subtley withdraw our rights, dehumanise us, and initiate state control over things that in the passed we took for granted. 

Just remember your compliance in all of this is leading to a future  which I'll be able to honestly and truthfully declare I had no part in creating. The grip of fear is determined by those of you insisting others are a threat to you.

 

For those calling out others on here for being selfish, a honest look in the mirror and some time connecting your brain, mind , mouth and body is prescribed.

 

The thing for me to understand is how can you fail to see it?

What are you gaining by adhering to the nonsense? Why do you continue to support policies which have been continually extended and manipulated.

What part of you and your life is it supporting? 

Finally, how anybody,after all of this, support a government in anything who dealt with the aged population in such a way just over a year ago tells me everything about how successful their dehumanising programme has been and how lacking in  basic common sense and the ability to discern truth from rhetoric is astounding. 

 

Those supporting such measures have been " done up like a kipper" , the sad thing is your compliance is a danger to me, you and future generations.

 

Enjoy the game!

 

 

 

 

Quite an informed post for someone who doesn't read newspapers, listen to the radio or watch tv.  Where do you get your information from? 

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4 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

This thread has confirmed a few of my fears and if people want to call them conspiracy theories then bash on. 
 

We are truly screwed as a society it’s as simple as that. 
 

The way that rational human beings are behaving around covid makes me very very sad. It is an utter delusion. 

 

It is clear to me now that the Government could come out with literally anything and some people will just do it/go for it, no questions asked, no debate. Just call it a crisis and say something/anything about the NHS and we are off to the races. 
 

Dangerous times ahead.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism is creeping in the west and people need to wake up to it very quickly. 

Agreed . The level of deferment and low towing to this Govt is scary . The worse part is  that some are clamouring feverishly for even more restrictions . It’s a collective “ Stockholm syndrome” psycho dram🎭 

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2 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Quite an informed post for someone who doesn't read newspapers, listen to the radio or watch tv.  Where do you get your information from? 

Online ? 

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6 minutes ago, hearts00 said:

This thread has confirmed a few of my fears and if people want to call them conspiracy theories then bash on. 
 

We are truly screwed as a society it’s as simple as that. 
 

The way that rational human beings are behaving around covid makes me very very sad. It is an utter delusion. 

 

It is clear to me now that the Government could come out with literally anything and some people will just do it/go for it, no questions asked, no debate. Just call it a crisis and say something/anything about the NHS and we are off to the races. 
 

Dangerous times ahead.

Authoritarianism/totalitarianism is creeping in the west and people need to wake up to it very quickly. 

People making choices that they think will help keep them healthy make you very, very sad?  

Maybe people think they are just being careful with the possibility of catching something that can have long lasting health effects.  

 

 

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5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Agreed . The level of deferment and low towing to this Govt is scary . The worse part is  that some are clamouring feverishly for even more restrictions . It’s a collective “ Stockholm syndrome” psycho dram🎭 

Any links to those wanting even more restrictions?  I'm not talking about politicians.  

I haven't seen anyone advocating more restrictions, just people who understand why these decisions are being made.  

None of us are happy with all this and wanting things more restrictions.  

Evidence?  

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39 minutes ago, thewiseone said:

I haven't complied with any of the restrictions.

I've travelled wherever I wanted, I don't wear a mask and haven't, I choose not to use hand sanitiser, I've never adhered to social distancing, I haven't down loaded the NHS app, when I go to a restaurant the name I give is made up as is my telephone  number also. I didn't and nor will I ever clap for the NHS. I am anti vax and proud to be so and will under no circumstances be coerced. I don't watch television nor do I listen to radio news, I don't read newspapers either and have never voted. 

 

I don't inflict my views on others and welcome those offering me this same respect. If I'm not permitted to enter stadia then so be it.

The whole thing has been an exercise in nothing more than mind control, brainwashing and a fear driven agenda in order to subtley withdraw our rights, dehumanise us, and initiate state control over things that in the passed we took for granted. 

Just remember your compliance in all of this is leading to a future  which I'll be able to honestly and truthfully declare I had no part in creating. The grip of fear is determined by those of you insisting others are a threat to you.

 

For those calling out others on here for being selfish, a honest look in the mirror and some time connecting your brain, mind , mouth and body is prescribed.

 

The thing for me to understand is how can you fail to see it?

What are you gaining by adhering to the nonsense? Why do you continue to support policies which have been continually extended and manipulated.

What part of you and your life is it supporting? 

Finally, how anybody,after all of this, support a government in anything who dealt with the aged population in such a way just over a year ago tells me everything about how successful their dehumanising programme has been and how lacking in  basic common sense and the ability to discern truth from rhetoric is astounding. 

 

Those supporting such measures have been " done up like a kipper" , the sad thing is your compliance is a danger to me, you and future generations.

 

Enjoy the game!

 

 

 

 

This level of pride in one's own stupidity is staggering. 

 

'Thewiseone' 😂

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Awbdy Oot
32 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

81% of covid deaths were vaxxed. July/August 

200 double vaxxed 

20 one vaxx

51 no vaccine. 

Source public health Scotland.

 

 

In other words 26% of Covid deaths were attributable to the 10% not fully vaccinated.

 

That's assuming your figures are right, not suggesting they're not but a link to your source would be good.

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1 hour ago, luckydug said:

Yes I did. 

That thread led me to decide against attending. 

Once the certificates come in to force at least we'll know that everyone (except those exempt) in the stadium will have taken precautions. 

The LFT still a good idea. 

 

 

a lot more honest than your previous post - well done mate

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Awbdy Oot
16 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

Any links to those wanting even more restrictions?  I'm not talking about politicians.  

I haven't seen anyone advocating more restrictions, just people who understand why these decisions are being made.  

None of us are happy with all this and wanting things more restrictions.  

Evidence?  

 

Nonsense, "clamouring feverishly" for more restrictions. They must be or he wouldn't have said it, would he?

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1 hour ago, Back to 2005 said:

Discrimination is still discrimination.

 

the sad irony is that if vaccine uptake in the bame communities continue to be lower then a disproportionate number from these communities will be barred from these events (indirectly of course)

 

 

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CloustonHMFC

On a positive note, we should be able to notice a massive reduction in 'Hullo, hullo' after this has been rolled out.

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