Vaccination certificates needed at Tynecastle?

[mitch41]

If it was to happen that vaccine passports were needed to watch Hearts it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. Do I care about those who are shouting against it, NO.  COVID is still making people ill, still killing people, still causing our hospitals to be under extreme pressure, causing a backlog for other operations & treatments and making life a misery for millions. If people can’t be bothered to turn up to get vaccinated that’s up to them and as far as I’m concerned them not being allowed to attend games I say to them TUFF.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, Nunya Business said:

 

Well done on quoting someone who isn't yourself mate. But you're not fooling anyone.

 

 

Could be anyone. There's plenty deranged individuals on here that would think of something so utterly tragic.

Fair point 

[Unknown user]

11 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Interesting, a good answer 👍

 

So it very much is the why someone isn't vaccinated, not that they aren't vaccinated per se?

 

It's definitely about that for me. Someone who can't help the way they are, fine. Someone who's choosing to be a risk to me and others, not fine.

[Taffin]

Just now, Bindy Badgy said:

 

With the way the statistics work, my main is issue is why someone isn't vaccinated. The number of people that have a valid medical reason for not vaccinating is incredibly small. I'll probably go through my entire life without meeting someone that falls into this category. My answer would probably be different if 10% of the population had a valid medical reasons for not vaccinating.

 

Agreed. However in the scenario I laid out, it was one of the exempt sat next to you so it was a 100% chance...but it was just a thought provoker and I appreciate you engaging with it in a reasoned manner 👍

 

I'd be surprised if it's much less than 10% than the population though once you factor in kids who are exempt (presumably also due to medical reasons)

[Unknown user]

2 minutes ago, mitch41 said:

If it was to happen that vaccine passports were needed to watch Hearts it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. Do I care about those who are shouting against it, NO.  COVID is still making people ill, still killing people, still causing our hospitals to be under extreme pressure, causing a backlog for other operations & treatments and making life a misery for millions. If people can’t be bothered to turn up to get vaccinated that’s up to them and as far as I’m concerned them not being allowed to attend games I say to them TUFF.

 

Mitch, do you realise we're in full agreement here?

[Taffin]

Just now, Smithee said:

 

It's definitely about that for me. Someone who can't help the way they are, fine. Someone who's choosing to be a risk to me and others, not fine.

 

I appreciate your honesty on that, it fascinates me that this bothers people but explains a lot about why my opinion differs and I respect yours too btw. Personally I'm more concerned by whether I'm at risk and what that risk level is, rather than why I'm at risk. And by concerned, in this instance, the answer is not at all, but that's by the by and varies from person to person.

[Taffin]

I've posted this on the main thread once or twice but given the new audience it may be worth sharing seeing as people are very concerned by the likelihood of the person sitting next to them giving them covid:

 

https://www.laboratoryequipment.com/573221-The-3-Factors-That-Make-Someone-a-COVID-19-Superspreader/

 

 

Edit:

 

With the increasing focus on the young and their chosen activities being a target for vaccination passports this bit is pertinent:

 

"Conversely, study participants younger than 26 and those under 22 BMI were all found to be low spreaders."

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Taffin

[The Hogfather]

36 minutes ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Guys this isn't even about masks or vaccines or covid, this is about a Digital ID that will evolve into a way for the government to restrict and reward people according to whichever narrative they chose. Its not that complicated - if you want a Social Credit System similar to China then fine, sit back and watch it roll out, slowly slowly it will become normalised.. If you don't, then you need to stand up and oppose this NOW! I genuinely can't believe that folk are happy to let those corrupt lying ****s in westminster / holyrood have so much control over your life. Who on earth would trust those elite criminals to run such a system? "Anti Vaxxers" are the target now, next it will be smokers, next it will be fat people, religious people, folk with bad credit, no voting if you have black marks on your record, have to spend your wages within 4 weeks or lose it etc etc. I bet there are folk reading this who never even knew such a system was in place in China? Well it's time to get googling...have a look at your future.

 

Our future mate, you'll be right there with us ❤️

[Unknown user]

2 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I appreciate your honesty on that, it fascinates me that this bothers people but explains a lot about why my opinion differs and I respect yours too btw. Personally I'm more concerned by whether I'm at risk and what that risk level is, rather than why I'm at risk. And by concerned, in this instance, the answer is not at all, but that's by the by and varies from person to person.

 

Our risk level has to include sometimes being around those who don't have a choice, they can't be discriminated against in our society

[JoeBugner2]

1 hour ago, Bindy Badgy said:

 

Probably sat in a troll farm somewhere in Moscow. The 'medical apartheid' term in particular is absurd. I imagine everyone affected by the experiments referenced in the link and the South African apartheid regime would find the fact that people are using the term in this thread incredibly offensive.

Moscow? You conspiracy theorists are mental. You know you have linked to the name of some random non fiction book right? I tend to use a dictionary for my definition of words. The term is entirely appropriate.

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Family of 4 here who will NEVER support medical apartheid in any form . My kids are in tears today that they probably won’t be able to attend Hearts games any more but even THEY realise why EVERYONE should be fighting against these so called "vaccine passports". I'm double vaxxed by the way but that should not matter one jot in this situation.

 

The pseudo-science that is referenced in support of these "passports" is so RIDICULOUS. We know those vaxxed carry and infect others. We know they have the same viral load. We know the majority in hospital and dying are double vaxxed now. We know natural immunity as at least as good as vaccine based immunity. We know the Vaccines are wearing off in only a few months. It's as RIDICULOUS as wearing a mask to stand up and take it off to sit down. There is more evidence to support FLAT EARTH THEORY than there is for wearing masks outside or taking them on and off depending on sitting position. If YOU are doing ANY of that crap then you should admit you have been duped and you are just blindly following what some known liars on TV are telling you to do. In what other situation would you let actual known liars make you do something so ridiculous without questioning it? Total Emperors New Clothes scenario .. big strong burly hard men too scared to speak up and say oh wait... this is total bullshit - for fear of being labelled an "anti vaxxer" and must be stupid? Unbelievable.

 

It is obvious that no good will come of these "vax passes" - for football or our society in general. Already in other countries you need your 3rd "booster" to be "fully vaccinated", then it will be a 4th, 5th , who knows how many? Kids will require double jabs soon. Then your Flu shots will be required. Then your Criminal Record. Then other medical records. Then your weight/BMI etc, credit score, missed payments, driving tickets, it will be linked to facial recognition, social media status... on and on...You really think nightclubs and football matches is where this will end?

 

This is the start of a Chinese style social credit system where you are granted freedoms and privileges for good behaviour and lose credits for going against the system. If you think we are not going down the Chinese route, then we ALREADY HAVE I’m afraid. Lockdowns and Mask wearing were never part of any western emergency plan for a pandemic. Up until Covid happened western scientists generally all agreed they were not effective or maintainable and had huge negative impacts on society (financial and health wise) - but for some reason we followed the Chinese model, probably to do with the fact China effectively owns the WHO and the WEF - from who we take all our guidance. Who even believes any of the data that came out of China beating Covid with these authoritarian measures?

 

The quicker we stand up to these draconian measures the easier it will be. It will be too late to do anything about it once you are not allowed in the food shops for a week cos you didn’t like a government Facebook post. This is real folks. Don’t be so ignorant to think it can't happen here! There are literally over 1 billion people living like this in China. Of course, for them it is normal now so they don’t complain much. Think about how every measure the UK government have enforced has been slowly tip toed in. It is SO SO OBVIOUS. Only the vulnerable need vaxxed. Only the over 50s. Only the over 30s now. Lockdown only for short time...now a bit longer, No vax passports, only for big venues, no children will be vaxxed etc etc . Classic boiling a frog tactics.

 

Anyways, my family and friends will be fighting against this (and not just for football) every step of the way, and i encourage others to do the same. We should take a leaf out of our European friends book - who are demonstrating and boycotting those promoting such medical apartheid. Who would ever have thought we'd be happy leaving our kids with a society which has less freedoms than we grew up with? As a father and member of society that would a total embarrassment for my generation. For a club such as Hearts who have a proud history of soldiers fighting for our very freedoms - anyone supporting these "vaccine passports" is an embarrassment to their legacy.

 

Oh where have you been all my life ? Ok well Since the pandemic started !! Bravo 👏 

[Taffin]

3 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Our risk level has to include sometimes being around those who don't have a choice, they can't be discriminated against in our society

 

Of course and I'm most definitely not suggesting they should be. I merely find the distinction some make between why they are at risk perplexing. If I was worried about sitting next to an unvaccinated person, their reason for being unvaccinated doesn't mitigate that risk and I'd be worried/concerned regardless.

Edited September 2, 2021 by Taffin

[sadj]

2 minutes ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Moscow? You conspiracy theorists are mental. You know you have linked to the name of some random non fiction book right? I tend to use a dictionary for my definition of words. The term is entirely appropriate.

Emmm say what? 

[luckydug]

56 minutes ago, SirHenrySmith said:

Certain sheeple need to wake the F up and take the red pill or can’t your comfy wee closed minds take it? 
 

Who's all involved in this

conspiracy ? 

Is it just the SG or is the UK government involved. 

What about all the European countries then there is plenty foreign governments with different levels of restrictions. 

If it is a conspiracy then who is organising and benefiting ? 

When you talk of fighting for freedom who exactly are you fighting ? 

[sadj]

1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

Oh where have you been all my life ? Ok well Since the pandemic started !! Bravo 👏 

Oi… surely its since part way through the fake pandemic started at the point you changed position by 180 degrees 👀😉

[sadj]

Just now, luckydug said:

Who's all involved in this

conspiracy ? 

Is it just the SG or is the UK government involved. 

What about all the European countries then there is plenty foreign governments with different levels of restrictions. 

If it is a conspiracy then who is organising and benefiting ? 

When you talk of fighting for freedom who exactly are you fighting ? 

its the goldsmiths and kanye west

[Unknown user]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

Emmm say what? 

 

Ah he's hoping it'll catch on, let him have his moment

[JoeBugner2]

3 minutes ago, sadj said:

Emmm say what? 

How else would you describe a person who has imagined a group of Russian spys in Moscow, posing as secret Hearts fans, working together to infiltrate Jambos Kickback for nefarious reasons? Brilliant!

[SpruceBringsteen]

Thread's a riot likes 

[Bindy Badgy]

22 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Agreed. However in the scenario I laid out, it was one of the exempt sat next to you so it was a 100% chance...but it was just a thought provoker and I appreciate you engaging with it in a reasoned manner 👍

 

I'd be surprised if it's much less than 10% than the population though once you factor in kids who are exempt (presumably also due to medical reasons)

 

Fair point regarding kids, I hadn't considered that. I don't live in Scotland at the moment. They're about to start vaccinating 12 year olds and up where I am.

[luckydug]

This thread has suddenly been infested with new posters who all amazingly are Covid deniers and anti vaccine. 

Funny that 🤔

[Unknown user]

4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Of course and I'm most definitely not suggesting they should be. I merely find the distinction some make between why they are at risk perplexing. If I was worried about sitting next to an unvaccinated person, their reason for being unvaccinated doesn't mitigate that risk and I'd be worried/concerned regardless.

 

It's all moot, it's not something I'm going to worry about so I'm not that arsed. But I do know I'd grudge being put at more risk through what I consider a stupid choice. So yeah, it's not just about risk, it's partly about **** you, live with the consequences of your stupid choice.

[milky_26]

Just now, SpruceBringsteen said:

Thread's a riot likes 

i have a feeling that this is what the early 90s raves on acid were like

[SpruceBringsteen]

Just now, SpruceBringsteen said:

Thread's a riot likes 

 

Agreed mate, you are not alone 

[milky_26]

Just now, luckydug said:

This thread has suddenly been infested with new posters who all amazingly are Covid deniers and anti vaccine. 

Funny that 🤔

a but but one of them is double jabbed

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

A wee birdie tells me there is a strong possibility he's not a Hearts fan. The anti-vaxxers and cohorts trawl the web for thread like this.   talk about paranoia ! 

1 hour ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Yeah well I am a season ticket holder, I'm not an "anti-vaxxer" and I really don't have time to trawl the web for threads like this!?
Even the fact you are using the term "Anti Vaxxer" to someone who has already said they are double vaxxed and their kids have had most vaccines tell me a lot about your state of mind. Can you not even see you've been conditioned to use that phrase, even though its entirely inaccurate? Wake up man! Think for yourself! You sound like an outside mask wearer / flat earther type?

👍👍👍

1 hour ago, Back to 2005 said:

If it was such a deadly disease why do they feel the need to ceorce people in to taking the vaccine that you don't trust to protect yourself?

Exactly 

1 hour ago, Jamhammer said:

I think you’ve answered your own question there.

It IS a highly contagious, potentially fatal disease. There’s no “if” about it.

If I am at the football sitting beside someone who, like me is double jagged I am less likely to catch the virus from them and them from me than sitting beside someone not vaccinated.

As I’ve said elsewhere due to family circumstances, regardless of that I will not be attending large events until I’ve seen my daughter in December. I will know I have done everything in my power to protect her.

Oh dear you got it bad and that ain’t good As the song goes 

1 hour ago, SirHenrySmith said:

This guy knows his stuff. Well posted my friend. You are not alone.

Yep 👍 

1 hour ago, Nunya Business said:

 

They're absolutely the same person. Wouldn't surprise me to find out that they're accounts set up by a long term poster on here to back up their silly views.

Paranoid much ? 

1 hour ago, SirHenrySmith said:

Now who’s the fruit loop! 😂

I know there is so much seeth and foaming at the mouth on the thread ! It’s really revigorated  me . I was nearly a sheep / Zombie after yesterday’s latest dictat from  Madam Sturgeon but I   Am rejuvenating !!! 

[luckydug]

Just now, milky_26 said:

a but but one of them is double jabbed

Covid deniers but got the jag just in case. 😂

[mitch41]

23 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Mitch, do you realise we're in full agreement here?

Yes but my post is much better. 😎

[Unknown user]

1 minute ago, mitch41 said:

Yes but my post is much better. 😎

No it isn't

 

 

 

 

Ah that's better

[kila]

1 hour ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Guys this isn't even about masks or vaccines or covid, this is about a Digital ID that will evolve into a way for the government to restrict and reward people according to whichever narrative they chose. Its not that complicated - if you want a Social Credit System similar to China then fine, sit back and watch it roll out, slowly slowly it will become normalised.. If you don't, then you need to stand up and oppose this NOW! I genuinely can't believe that folk are happy to let those corrupt lying ****s in westminster / holyrood have so much control over your life. Who on earth would trust those elite criminals to run such a system? "Anti Vaxxers" are the target now, next it will be smokers, next it will be fat people, religious people, folk with bad credit, no voting if you have black marks on your record, have to spend your wages within 4 weeks or lose it etc etc. I bet there are folk reading this who never even knew such a system was in place in China? Well it's time to get googling...have a look at your future.

 

You're batshit mental if you think the loonies in Westminster are even capable of coining up such a Digital ID/communist system and making it work with all the IT infrastructure like the Chinese. Even if they outsourced it, it'd be a massive failure costing billions. The Sun would run a headline about some unvaccinated immigrant being able to walk into a nightclub.

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by kila

[Unknown user]

2 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Covid deniers but got the jag just in case. 😂

They'll be away updating the script for Scotland.

[luckydug]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

👍👍👍

Exactly 

Oh dear you got it bad and that ain’t good As the song goes 

Yep 👍 

Paranoid much ? 

I know there is so much seeth and foaming at the mouth on the thread ! It’s really revigorated  me . I was nearly a sheep / Zombie after yesterday’s latest dictat from  Madam Sturgeon but I   Am rejuvenating !!! 

Is that you talking to yourself

again🤔

[mitch41]

1 minute ago, Smithee said:

No it isn't

 

 

 

 

Ah that's better

😪

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, frankblack said:

 

To protect others that are vulnerable. Hard to achieve herd immunity when there are too many conspiracy theory nutjobs trying to prevent us getting back to normal.

Ain’t you just a nice person 

1 hour ago, JoeBugner2 said:

Guys this isn't even about masks or vaccines or covid, this is about a Digital ID that will evolve into a way for the government to restrict and reward people according to whichever narrative they chose. Its not that complicated - if you want a Social Credit System similar to China then fine, sit back and watch it roll out, slowly slowly it will become normalised.. If you don't, then you need to stand up and oppose this NOW! I genuinely can't believe that folk are happy to let those corrupt lying ****s in westminster / holyrood have so much control over your life. Who on earth would trust those elite criminals to run such a system? "Anti Vaxxers" are the target now, next it will be smokers, next it will be fat people, religious people, folk with bad credit, no voting if you have black marks on your record, have to spend your wages within 4 weeks or lose it etc etc. I bet there are folk reading this who never even knew such a system was in place in China? Well it's time to get googling...have a look at your future.

Well said 

51 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

It's pretty conclusive that they're less likely to develop covid-19 but I must admit I'm missing anything conclusive about the spread of the virus in there, it seems very wishy washy at best:

 

'The study also found double vaccinated people may be less likely to pass on the virus to others than those who have not received a vaccine.'

 

'A US government document leaked last week warned that infections among fully vaccinated people are not as rare as previously thought and that such cases are highly contagious.'

 

The effectiveness of whether the vaccine confers a level of protection against developing covid-19 is a separate matter to their likelihood of catching the virus and their likelihood of spreading it which as I suggested earlier is reliant on a whole host of variables.

👍

31 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Agreed. However in the scenario I laid out, it was one of the exempt sat next to you so it was a 100% chance...but it was just a thought provoker and I appreciate you engaging with it in a reasoned manner 👍

 

I'd be surprised if it's much less than 10% than the population though once you factor in kids who are exempt (presumably also due to medical reasons)

It’s Scotland everyone seems to be exempt from something or another . Nicolas magic money tree and all 

13 minutes ago, luckydug said:

This thread has suddenly been infested with new posters who all amazingly are Covid deniers and anti vaccine. 

Funny that 🤔

No it’s correlated with the covid vaccine passports announcements yesterday so it’s vigorated   people and mobilise them 

5 minutes ago, luckydug said:

Is that you talking to yourself

again🤔

Paranoid person number 3 ! Tragic really ! 

[JudyJudyJudy]

24 minutes ago, sadj said:

Oi… surely its since part way through the fake pandemic started at the point you changed position by 180 degrees 👀😉

No if  I had known him at the beginning of it all I might not have been as bat shot crazy really 👍😂 I’m fine now 

[Auldbenches]

1 hour ago, SirHenrySmith said:

Certain sheeple need to wake the F up and take the red pill or can’t your comfy wee closed minds take it? 
 

I'm a sheep because I've had the vaccine due to wanting to stay healthy and help keep others safe?  

Bah  

[Auldbenches]

26 minutes ago, luckydug said:

This thread has suddenly been infested with new posters who all amazingly are Covid deniers and anti vaccine. 

Funny that 🤔

It's not them posting that worries me, it's the strength of their argument and the fact that it might prevent others getting vaccinated.  

If I knew I was going to be seen as a sheep, I wouldn't have had the jag.  

Gutted! 

[Jamhammer]

25 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

👍👍👍

Exactly 

Oh dear you got it bad and that ain’t good As the song goes 

Yep 👍 

Paranoid much ? 

I know there is so much seeth and foaming at the mouth on the thread ! It’s really revigorated  me . I was nearly a sheep / Zombie after yesterday’s latest dictat from  Madam Sturgeon but I   Am rejuvenating !!! 

We’ll that’s me told. I’m away to lick some door handles and shopping trolleys 

[stevie]

31 minutes ago, JoeBugner2 said:

How else would you describe a person who has imagined a group of Russian spys in Moscow, posing as secret Hearts fans, working together to infiltrate Jambos Kickback for nefarious reasons? Brilliant!

Get back to .net ya ***** 😂😂😂

[Jamhammer]

1 hour ago, Taffin said:

 

It's pretty conclusive that they're less likely to develop covid-19 but I must admit I'm missing anything conclusive about the spread of the virus in there, it seems very wishy washy at best:

 

'The study also found double vaccinated people may be less likely to pass on the virus to others than those who have not received a vaccine.'

 

'A US government document leaked last week warned that infections among fully vaccinated people are not as rare as previously thought and that such cases are highly contagious.'

 

The effectiveness of whether the vaccine confers a level of protection against developing covid-19 is a separate matter to their likelihood of catching the virus and their likelihood of spreading it which as I suggested earlier is reliant on a whole host of variables.

May is good enough. It’s also reported if you do catch again it’s not as bad 

Having had it that’s also reassuring to me.

Despite being double jagged I’m still being as cautious as I was before.

That didn’t stop me catching it but post jags, touch wood I’ve not had it again 

Wouldnt wish it on me worst enemy. It was grim as ****

[Auldbenches]

29 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

👍👍👍

Exactly 

Oh dear you got it bad and that ain’t good As the song goes 

Yep 👍 

Paranoid much ? 

I know there is so much seeth and foaming at the mouth on the thread ! It’s really revigorated  me . I was nearly a sheep / Zombie after yesterday’s latest dictat from  Madam Sturgeon but I   Am rejuvenating !!! 

I think janhammers post about feeling he has done everything to protect his family deserves a more empathetic reply than you gave.  He hasn't got it bad, he's just concerned about his daughter.   

That's nothing to do with having anything bad.  

Surely you can understand why a parent would feel like taking this approach? 

[mitch41]

7 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

It's not them posting that worries me, it's the strength of their argument and the fact that it might prevent others getting vaccinated.  

If I knew I was going to be seen as a sheep, I wouldn't have had the jag.  

Gutted! 

Anti vaccineers can call us sheep or whatever who cares. Hearts and the other authorities main concern is football supporters and the wider public’s safety and if that puts a few people’s noses out TUFF. COVID is the enemy here not fellow Hearts supporters. 

[Boab]

9 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

I think janhammers post about feeling he has done everything to protect his family deserves a more empathetic reply than you gave.  He hasn't got it bad, he's just concerned about his daughter.   

That's nothing to do with having anything bad.  

Surely you can understand why a parent would feel like taking this approach? 

Most people would.

This place is a haven for odd folks !

[jack D and coke]

Such has the change been in James since the start of covid I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he announced he has a bird soon. 

[Auldbenches]

1 minute ago, mitch41 said:

Anti vaccineers can call us sheep or whatever who cares. Hearts and the other authorities main concern is football supporters and the wider public’s safety and if that puts a few people’s noses out TUFF. COVID is the enemy here not fellow Hearts supporters. 

You know as soon as you see things like sheep and the tv doing your thinking for you, it's guaranteed to be someone that it is pointless discussing this with.  

I understand if people are wary of the vaccine, but to actively try and persuade others not to is pathetic.  

[Unknown user]

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Such has the change been in James since the start of covid I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he announced he has a bird soon. 

Lold

[mitch41]

12 minutes ago, Jamhammer said:

May is good enough. It’s also reported if you do catch again it’s not as bad 

Having had it that’s also reassuring to me.

Despite being double jagged I’m still being as cautious as I was before.

That didn’t stop me catching it but post jags, touch wood I’ve not had it again 

Wouldnt wish it on me worst enemy. It was grim as ****

Well dais Jamhammer. Others must remember it affects  people in different ways no matter what age you are. From death to long covid from mild illness to being hospitalised. Without a vaccine millions more would be dead or suffering long term health problems. 

[Jamhammer]

5 minutes ago, mitch41 said:

Well dais Jamhammer. Others must remember it affects  people in different ways no matter what age you are. From death to long covid from mild illness to being hospitalised. Without a vaccine millions more would be dead or suffering long term health problems. 

Boy who works beside us had it just after me and is STILL fecked. Younger than me too

My Mrs had it same time as me and thought it was just like a cold. She’s older than me 😀

[thewiseone]

34 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

I'm a sheep because I've had the vaccine due to wanting to stay healthy and help keep others safe?  

Bah  

Listening to rhetoric" keeping others safe". It's a tag line and you've been tagged. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

20 minutes ago, Auldbenches said:

I think janhammers post about feeling he has done everything to protect his family deserves a more empathetic reply than you gave.  He hasn't got it bad, he's just concerned about his daughter.   

That's nothing to do with having anything bad.  

Surely you can understand why a parent would feel like taking this approach? 

I’m sure we all have and are doing everything to protect ourselves first and foremost . Getting double vaccinated is the obvious example . This also helps to protect others indirectly too ( to a degree ) . His comments were loaded with emotive words such as “ Highly contagious “  “ potentially fatal disease “ without any real context to these terms . Yes it can be fatal , but to a very small minority of a minority . I was incredulous about him stating he won’t go to large events ( I assume he means indoors ? ) until after he has seen his daughter in December ? That’s not living  in my book , hence “ you got it bad and that ain’t good “  comment . Believe me as others know from the daddy CV thread ( this seems to be its obstructive and beligerent offspring 😂) I had it “ bad” at the beginning of the pandemic