Jeffros Furios Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Actually it was this woman https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/29/sport/jelena-dokic-unbreakable-abuse-father-spt/index.html Her dad is a typical Serbian savage. Edited September 1, 2022 by Jeffros Furios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: Her dad is a typical Serbian savage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Matches mainly , or at least get further into the draws just looking to progress to whatever their eventual level is in the longer term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: I doubt that there's the same degree of parental involvement for teenagers and young adults playing other sports. Tennis parents are a particularly overbearing bunch, with their kids expected to fill some kind of hole left by the inadequacy of their own childhood. There's a line somewhere between enjoying watching your kid play sport and being a fokken mental case about the whole thing. I've come across many who've crossed that line - and you'll never hear of their kids because they don't have the talent that their parents think they can buy for them. albeit rare cases but they appear in the newspapers now and again where some overbearing (probably middle/upper class) mum has drugged a competitors pony so their child can win a rosette at a gymkana horse jumping competition that’s potentially harm an innocent animal and also put someone’s child at genuine risk of severe injury just so their own child can get a better colour rosette 😩 these passive tennis-dad’s need to up their game 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: albeit rare cases but they appear in the newspapers now and again where some overbearing (probably middle/upper class) mum has drugged a competitors pony so their child can win a rosette at a gymkana horse jumping competition that’s potentially harm an innocent animal and also put someone’s child at genuine risk of severe injury just so their own child can get a better colour rosette 😩 these passive tennis-dad’s need to up their game 😡 It’s not just in sport , you get parents living their failed dreams through their children in other professions too . Very odd behaviours really . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: albeit rare cases but they appear in the newspapers now and again where some overbearing (probably middle/upper class) mum has drugged a competitors pony so their child can win a rosette at a gymkana horse jumping competition that’s potentially harm an innocent animal and also put someone’s child at genuine risk of severe injury just so their own child can get a better colour rosette 😩 these passive tennis-dad’s need to up their game 😡 My own observation suggests that the mums are more mental. That said, I've only been at boys' tournaments so maybe it's a thing that crosses the genders. Pony riding and tennis, though? It's a middle class thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 8 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes British tennis players are now expected to win , rather that lose. Also bear in mind that we've done pretty well with men's doubles players over the last 10 years or so. 3 teams featuring Brits are in the top 8 race at the moment plus you've had Jamie Murray, Dom Inglot, Jonny O'Mara and the other Skupski at or near the top in recent years. Largely down to coach Louis Cayeur - who's Canadian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: Also bear in mind that we've done pretty well with men's doubles players over the last 10 years or so. 3 teams featuring Brits are in the top 8 race at the moment plus you've had Jamie Murray, Dom Inglot, Jonny O'Mara and the other Skupski at or near the top in recent years. Largely down to coach Louis Cayeur - who's Canadian Yes very true . Brutish tennis is not bad state just now I reckon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes very true . Brutish tennis is not bad state just now I reckon . You talking about John Isner now, as he is definitely brutal to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I didn’t know she had a tennis player daughter . She was the only player why managed to beat Evert and Martina many a time during their golden patch . A great player https://www.tennisnet.com/en/news/wta-daughter-of-hana-mandlikova-wins-two-tournaments-in-a-row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 4 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Actually it was this woman https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/29/sport/jelena-dokic-unbreakable-abuse-father-spt/index.html Just read that, I was aware of the case and remembered her name. Her father sounds like a profoundly nasty piece of work and still doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong because he believes his behaviour was normal and perhaps in his culture it is to a large degree. Jelena, unsurprisingly, no longer speaks to him. As others have said, nightmare pushy parents are a problem in all walks of life, be if sport, music or even education in general. But it’s 100 times worse when it spills over into mental cruelty or physical violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Good wins for Norrie and Evans 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWM Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: albeit rare cases but they appear in the newspapers now and again where some overbearing (probably middle/upper class) mum has drugged a competitors pony so their child can win a rosette at a gymkana horse jumping competition that’s potentially harm an innocent animal and also put someone’s child at genuine risk of severe injury just so their own child can get a better colour rosette 😩 these passive tennis-dad’s need to up their game 😡 A French man who admitted drugging a number of his children's tennis rivals has been given an eight-year jail term. Christophe Fauviau, 46, a retired army officer, was convicted of manslaughter after one of the players died in a car crash after being drugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 15 hours ago, I P Knightley said: My own observation suggests that the mums are more mental. That said, I've only been at boys' tournaments so maybe it's a thing that crosses the genders. Pony riding and tennis, though? It's a middle class thing! Nevermind Sunderland Til I Die, there is a documentary out there to be made following kids and their parents round the tennis circuit. Seeing kids getting code violations because of their parents behaviour is always amusing. In fairness, the vast majority of parents are hugely supportive of each other but there is a palpable tension in the air as well. It's quite an intoxicating atmosphere at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Murray described on BBC summary vs Berretini as a closing time car park fighter. I sort of get that. Berretini hasn't won any majors as far as I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 BBC sound desperate for the Italian to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Not a fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) Draper retires injured. Looked like he pulled something in his groin when stretching for a shot. Was one set all, and he was 3-1 up in the 3rd when it happened and he lost his serve, but then came back from a medical timeout to go 5-2 up, but then was clearly not able to move much at all and ended up calling it a day. Edited September 2, 2022 by PortyJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, PortyJambo said: Draper retires injured. Looked like he pulled something in his groin when stretching for a shot. Was one set all, and he was 3-1 up in the 3rd when it happened and he lost his serve, but then came back from a medical timeout to go 5-2 up, but then was clearly not able to move much at all and ended up calling it a day. His time will surely come. He's making the steady climb up the rankings that might have suited Raducanu. A few hiccups along the way but in three years time, he ought to be challenging for SFs and finals regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: His time will surely come. He's making the steady climb up the rankings that might have suited Raducanu. A few hiccups along the way but in three years time, he ought to be challenging for SFs and finals regularly. Yeah, if he can avoid injuries then he should reach top 10. And as his points that have got him in the top 50 have come over several tournaments, he's not at as much risk of a big drop if he has a bad spell, unlike Raducanu losing most of her points this week. Pretty sure he would have won that game today if he hadn't got injured. Edited September 2, 2022 by PortyJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: His time will surely come. He's making the steady climb up the rankings that might have suited Raducanu. A few hiccups along the way but in three years time, he ought to be challenging for SFs and finals regularly. He will be one of many benefitting from not having Rafa and Novak having too many years in front of them. Hard to take that final step though, as Zverev Tsitsipas etc are finding out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Ruud v Paul has been epic. Paul just crashing in the final set which is disappointing and Rudd breaks for the second time with a really, really lucky shot via the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Not that she was going to win this year but shame that Serena was never able to get that last Slam to match Margaret Court. Her legacy deserved that imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Not that she was going to win this year but shame that Serena was never able to get that last Slam to match Margaret Court. Her legacy deserved that imo. Agreed . An amazing career . Deserved the 24 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 If Norrie beats Rublev tomorrow, he'll move above some Serbian Djoker in the rankings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 02/09/2022 at 21:06, Riccarton3 said: Not a fan? Aye. But he sold out. So feck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 10:28, neilnunb said: Not that she was going to win this year but shame that Serena was never able to get that last Slam to match Margaret Court. Her legacy deserved that imo. Why did it deserves it. You have to earn it and she didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Why did it deserves it. You have to earn it and she didn't. 🤣 Well tbf I think most do see her as the greatest. After all, Margaret Court won 11 Australian titles when a lot of players didn't travel to Australia. It's a bit like Nadal winning his recent Australian title when the obvious winner was absent. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 18 hours ago, neilnunb said: 🤣 Well tbf I think most do see her as the greatest. After all, Margaret Court won 11 Australian titles when a lot of players didn't travel to Australia. It's a bit like Nadal winning his recent Australian title when the obvious winner was absent. 😉 Pardon me. It should have been 'does she' actually I should have said Serena. 👍 Apologies to anyone who was traumatised by my actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 21 hours ago, ri Alban said: Aye. But he sold out. So feck him. How has he sold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: How has he sold out? Was it for wearing the Paraguay shirt at the Wimbledon press conference then spending the following decade+ licking the england bum to try to make up for it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 What a shock...Nadal off on a 'break' after losing the first set. Went away for ages too. Maybe struggled to find a vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, neilnunb said: What a shock...Nadal off on a 'break' after losing the first set. Went away for ages too. Maybe struggled to find a vein. Away for another wee break now to change his clothes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Ah Tiafoe away to get changed now as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, vegas-voss said: Away for another wee break now to change his clothes Yep. So obvy. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, vegas-voss said: Ah Tiafoe away to get changed now as well He changed his top on court. However if Nadal has buggered off then he may as well join in the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWM Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, neilnunb said: He changed his top on court. However if Nadal has buggered off then he may as well join in the games. They’ll be changing everything their wearing, like most players have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 YAY BABY!!! 🥳🥳🥳 Stick to your clay, Rafa! 👋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiver Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Looking like the end of the line for Nadal here at the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Brilliant win ! Well done Frances . Nae luck go Nads ! Theyll certainly be one happy guy tonight sipping a celebratory drink. Martina and Courier dry yer eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, neilnunb said: YAY BABY!!! 🥳🥳🥳 Stick to your clay, Rafa! 👋 👍👍👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Brilliant win ! Well done Frances . Nae luck go Nads ! Theyll certainly be one happy guy tonight sipping a celebratory drink. Martina and Courier dry yer eyes A great night for tennis, James. Sore one for gamesmanship. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, neilnunb said: A great night for tennis, James. Sore one for gamesmanship. 😁 Yep ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Yes bring it on next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 5 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: one of triple-jays better gifs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Novax will be too busy in the Hague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 looks like Jessica Pegula has taken great confidence from overcoming the defending champion - hope she goes on to win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Novax will be too busy in the Hague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 5 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Brilliant win ! Well done Frances . Nae luck go Nads ! Theyll certainly be one happy guy tonight sipping a celebratory drink. Martina and Courier dry yer eyes Banned from the Australian and US for good. So that leaves the French for Rafa and Wimbledon for Lance. So 23 v 22 to the greatest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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