The Treasurer Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, siegementality said: Boring. A lot like Neilson, and you. So you admit that you are boring, I suppose it's a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: He loves a good squabble, the same as the rest of us. True. We all love a good moan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Nothing better than moaning about thread then contributing to it. You can add me to that list! Bit like War and Peace with no real war and certainly no peace so, in brief, a load of boring, repetitive words. Senseless speculation!!! Edited June 2, 2021 by colinmaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, colinmaroon said: You can add me to that list! Bit like War and Peace with no real war and certainly no peace so, in brief, a load of boring, repetitive words. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 It will be back to dormant once the Euros start. That’s if Scotland can scrape a team together ! If not, blame Robbie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, cheetah said: Reckon it will have been closer to £500 than £1M At lowest 3-4K a week, four year deal, signing on fee, agents fee etc. I’m not sure I want to know the actual amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: At lowest 3-4K a week, four year deal, signing on fee, agents fee etc. I’m not sure I want to know the actual amount. I’m the same. The money the club has mismanaged and squandered is disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I’m the same. The money the club has mismanaged and squandered is disgusting. It is indeed. But enough of this negativity spamming up the threads 😜. Edited June 2, 2021 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: It is indeed. But enough of this negativity spamming up the threads 😜. Exactly. Next season YAY!!! YIPPEE!!! Etc etc. Edited June 2, 2021 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Rave MacPherson said: Aww thanks for taking time out of your day to tell me that. It's made my day Hahahahaha 👍🏽👏🏾 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Exactly. Next season YAY!!! YIPPEE!!! Etc etc. Watch the video, a real PHM would 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Watch the video, a real PHM would 😭 Seen it. I have to say I really liked it. Wee escape from reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Seen it. I have to say I really liked it. Wee escape from reality. The peering in through the window of the closed Diggers was weird, seems to have done the job though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Pasquale for King said: The peering in through the window of the closed Diggers was weird, seems to have done the job though. If you had known you could have been peering out at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, GinRummy said: If you had known you could have been peering out at the same time. I would’ve let them in 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Pasquale for King said: I would’ve let them in 😆 PHM right there 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 On 26/05/2021 at 17:33, frankblack said: Here's a wee tune to hopefully cheer you up... ****KING GLORIOUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 hours ago, GinRummy said: PHM right there 😀 Aren’t we all 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Aren’t we all 😜 I’m not happy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Niemi’s gloves said: Oh god it’s back. If ever a thread deserved to gently slide out of existence it’s this one. And for almost a week it was dormant. But then late one night some buffoon scrawls through several pages to find it, posts a comment which says nothing of substance but is a blatant trolling effort and off we go again. It’s all been said, on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 He's clearly going nowhere in the foreseeable future so the thread is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: He's clearly going nowhere in the foreseeable future so the thread is pointless. So people’s wish to see him punted is pointless just because it’s not going to happen (at the moment). So what do you suggest? Everyone who wants change just gets on with it? or are people still allowed to express a view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kiwidoug said: He's clearly going nowhere in the foreseeable future so the thread is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grim Reaper Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 He’s out of his depth. Get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, GinRummy said: I’m not happy enough. Me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 15 hours ago, The Grim Reaper said: He’s out of his depth. Get rid. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairdin Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 This thread shouldn't disappear because our marketing team pulled off a blinder with the season ticket promo vid. The concerns alot of us have expressed here haven't changed. I hope come November, we're flying high in the league playing positive and entertaining football. I'll eat all the humble pie going if we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) On 02/06/2021 at 13:24, Smith's right boot said: I think we need this guy in charge. Flair Excitment Passion Fun Charisima Is that not Robbie?. Edited June 3, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Is that not Robbie?. Sounds like your hero who took us down. 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, frankblack said: Sounds like your hero who took us down. 🙈 I'll get my 🎣 out here, if you are a true Hearts supporter did we get relegated which would mean stendel took us down, or in hindsight what any reasonable supporter would say, were we unfairly demoted due to a global health crisis, and weren't given the chance to show we could stay up, cause the last time I checked the Scottish Premiership is 38 games long, and as much as i hate they blue CU**S if you are going to win anything, at least do it the right way, don't accept a title because it's handed to you, you don't see gold medals being handed out because you were leading half the way in a 100m sprint, no you get that gold medal if you finish 1st, over the winning line on merit. But then again its Stendels fault, right...... 🤔. Yep I mean stendels an embarrassment, you are 100% correct mate, I mean getting unfairly demoted by a decision outwith our hands is far more embarrassing, than say getting papped out the cup by Alloa and the giants that are Brora Rangers. Come back when Robbie can beat the rangers that are now, not when the have top up my pension miller playing for them , though i may be waiting a while because he can't even beat Brora Rangers 😂😂. To easy frank, Neeeexxxt!!! 😂😁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: I'll get my 🎣 out here, if you are a true Hearts supporter did we get relegated which would mean stendel took us down, or in hindsight what any reasonable supporter would say, were we unfairly demoted due to a global health crisis, and weren't given the chance to show we could stay up, cause the last time I checked the Scottish Premiership is 38 games long, and as much as i hate they blue CU**S if you are going to win anything, at least do it the right way, don't accept a title because it's handed to you, you don't see gold medals being handed out because you were leading half the way in a 100m sprint, no you get that gold medal if you finish 1st, over the winning line on merit. We got demoted for finishing bottom. He actually made us worse. 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: But then again its Stendels fault, right...... 🤔. Yip. Some obvious naivety about how to handle our situation, most notably continuing to play the hologram for numerous games more than he should have. 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Yep I mean stendels an embarrassment, you are 100% correct mate, I mean getting unfairly demoted by a decision outwith our hands is far more embarrassing, than say getting papped out the cup by Alloa and the giants that are Brora Rangers. What result was more damaging for us financially between those cup defeats and the loss to St Mirren, with lockdown imminent, which could have saved us if he had approached it properly? 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Come back when Robbie can beat the rangers that are now, not when the have top up my pension miller playing for them , though i may be waiting a while because he can't even beat Brora Rangers 😂😂. I think you will find Robbie has already beaten The Rangers/Sevco in both the Championship and Premiership. We haven't faced them again since he returned, so your point is redundant. I'd say winning the Championship with Sevco and the flumps finishing behind us was a bit more of an achievement than a fortunate cup win that ulimately gave us nothing. 2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: To easy frank, Neeeexxxt!!! 😂😁. It was, your desperation shows. Seethe on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, frankblack said: We got demoted for finishing bottom. He actually made us worse. Yip. Some obvious naivety about how to handle our situation, most notably continuing to play the hologram for numerous games more than he should have. What result was more damaging for us financially between those cup defeats and the loss to St Mirren, with lockdown imminent, which could have saved us if he had approached it properly? I think you will find Robbie has already beaten The Rangers/Sevco in both the Championship and Premiership. We haven't faced them again since he returned, so your point is redundant. I'd say winning the Championship with Sevco and the flumps finishing behind us was a bit more of an achievement than a fortunate cup win that ulimately gave us nothing. It was, your desperation shows. Seethe on. Sorry we weren't relagated? We were what? Cmon say it Frank louder!!!. What Was was more financially damaging none because big Jamesy boy, flashed the cash and is now on board. For someone that claims to love hearts you must of thought Ann was in the wrong by going with our legal case etc, she financially damaged us when she took that on eh. Again I really have to question you're mental being, I pointed out come back when Robbie can beat the rangers that are now, and you say that we'll duhhhh.... We all know that, but we all know he can't beat brora so 😂😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Sorry we weren't relagated? We were what? Cmon say it Frank louder!!!. We were demoted. It wouldn't have happened if we hadn't finished bottom - something Stendel was entirely responsible for. 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: What Was was more financially damaging none because big Jamesy boy, flashed the cash and is now on board. A loss is a loss, this means legal fees, lack of TV money, etc and we won't know the financial committment from benefactors before the AGM. 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: For someone that claims to love hearts you must of thought Ann was in the wrong by going with our legal case etc, she financially damaged us when she took that on eh. Again, if your idol had kept us up that wouldn't have been a consideration. 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Again I really have to question you're mental being, I pointed out come back when Robbie can beat the rangers that are now, and you say that we'll duhhhh.... We all know that, but we all know he can't beat brora so 😂😂. So you think that result was more damaging than the St Mirren result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, frankblack said: We were demoted. It wouldn't have happened if we hadn't finished bottom - something Stendel was entirely responsible for. A loss is a loss, this means legal fees, lack of TV money, etc and we won't know the financial committment from benefactors before the AGM. Again, if your idol had kept us up that wouldn't have been a consideration. So you think that result was more damaging than the St Mirren result? No and funny Ann budge never, or why did she take on the legal case?. Can you answer that for me?. Last time I checked the Scottish Premiership plays 38 games a season? How many did they play this season?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, frankblack said: We got demoted for finishing bottom. He actually made us worse. Yip. Some obvious naivety about how to handle our situation, most notably continuing to play the hologram for numerous games more than he should have. What result was more damaging for us financially between those cup defeats and the loss to St Mirren, with lockdown imminent, which could have saved us if he had approached it properly? I think you will find Robbie has already beaten The Rangers/Sevco in both the Championship and Premiership. We haven't faced them again since he returned, so your point is redundant. I'd say winning the Championship with Sevco and the flumps finishing behind us was a bit more of an achievement than a fortunate cup win that ulimately gave us nothing. It was, your desperation shows. Seethe on. Now Stendel’s good results were fortunate? Was Neilson’s result v Brora unfortunate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Now Stendel’s good results were fortunate? Was Neilson’s result v Brora unfortunate? Given how few good results Stendel managed, I think its fair to say that was the case. Brora was a shocker, and I've said he should have gone for it at the time, but it was not as damaging as that St Mirren game, which demonstrated everything you needed to know that we had the wrong manager in place that couldn't cope with the Scottish game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: We were demoted. It wouldn't have happened if we hadn't finished bottom - something Stendel was entirely responsible for. How many league games are there in a season?. 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: A loss is a loss, this means legal fees, lack of TV money, etc and we won't know the financial committment from benefactors before the AGM. Stumped on that point as big James Anderson, is minted for cash. Again, if your idol had kept us up that wouldn't have been a consideration. He couldn't keep us up, as we got demoted it was taken out of his hands 😂, unless you agree with what happened?. 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: Deflect from original question, that was asked and try to move the goalposts. So you think that result was more damaging than the St Mirren result? yes because getting beat by St mirren, and then being demoted outwith our control, I can handle and it only furthers the point, the league is set up for both celtic and rangers. Getting put out the Scottish by Brora though and Alloa well 🤔. 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: No and funny Ann budge never, or why did she take on the legal case?. Because Stendel's results led to our demotion. 6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Can you answer that for me?. Last time I checked the Scottish Premiership plays 38 games a season? How many did they play this season?. The St Mirren game was win or bust. Stendel didn't prepare us adequately and that is inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Getting put out the Scottish by Brora though and Alloa well 🤔. Repeating your points and making an arse of editing the post above doesn't make them any less irrelevant. I've asked you time and time again to justify how that Brora result had a more significant impact than the St Mirren result. Still awaiting your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Now Stendel’s good results were fortunate? Was Neilson’s result v Brora unfortunate? Same people would of made Robbie a god even though Stendel got him to the semi? Something he has never done himself as a manager? Imagine if he had managed to win the cup honestly 😂 you couldn't make it up, big bad Danny Stendel, you bad man Daniel getting Robbie to that semi final, it's Daniels fault Robbie 💩 his pants first half against celtic too and the penalties. That's all big bad dirty dans fault. Yep dans fault he had Craig Gordon to keep us up 🙄. Honestly. Every single signing levein made was dans fault. Edited June 4, 2021 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Dale Cooper Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Same people would of made Robbie a god even though Stendel got him to the semi? Something he has never done himself as a manager? Imagine if he had managed to win the cup honestly 😂 you couldn't make it up, big bad Danny Stendel, you bad man Daniel getting Robbie to that final, it's Daniels fault Robbie 💩 his pants first half against celtic too and the penalties. That's all big bad dirty dans fault. Yep dans fault he had Craig Gordon to keep us up 🙄. Honestly. Every single signing levein made was dans fault. Probably the least coherent post in the history of Kickback. Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Same people would of made Robbie a god even though Stendel got him to the semi? Something he has never done himself as a manager? Imagine if he had managed to win the cup honestly 😂 you couldn't make it up, big bad Danny Stendel, you bad man Daniel getting Robbie to that semi final, it's Daniels fault Robbie 💩 his pants first half against celtic too and the penalties. That's all big bad dirty dans fault. Yep dans fault he had Craig Gordon to keep us up 🙄. Honestly. Every single signing levein made was dans fault. I think you need to step outside and get some fresh air. I can't think I've read as much nonsense since your Stendel thread. Its clear you have no grasp whatsoever on what our priorities are and the first one is not getting relegated/demoted by finishing bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Special Agent Dale Cooper said: Probably the least coherent post in the history of Kickback. Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Special Agent Dale Cooper said: Probably the least coherent post in the history of Kickback. Congratulations Nope it's all Dan's fault don't you understand, I mean why should that guy be given the same treatment as Robbie or Craig he's not worthy of a pre season, and It is entirely fair to judge him on three months coming into a team that was on a downward spiral, yep that is Dan's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, frankblack said: Given how few good results Stendel managed, I think its fair to say that was the case. Brora was a shocker, and I've said he should have gone for it at the time, but it was not as damaging as that St Mirren game, which demonstrated everything you needed to know that we had the wrong manager in place that couldn't cope with the Scottish game. Neilson had a clean slate. Stendel came into a mess of a club with petulant players, underperforming players. He had to change the culture of the club and some didn’t like it. It staggers me many fans fail to recognise this? Imagine walking into that in December and having that pressure with everyone and their dog with a microscope pointed in his direction. It’s done now but, without trying to offend anyone, the lack of understanding from many is alarming. Of course , he made mistakes but he changed the way we played in a short time. Certain individuals clearly started playing better, his positive tactics were too much for some but maybe he had to recognise this? I think he did as we changed to a longer game after trying to implement a faster passing game. I doubt many of his fellow managers in the game envied the task he had. Some players who have let the club down for long enough still remain or are maybe being (finally) shown the door now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, frankblack said: I think you need to step outside and get some fresh air. I can't think I've read as much nonsense since your Stendel thread. Its clear you have no grasp whatsoever on what our priorities are and the first one is not getting relegated/demoted by finishing bottom. Yep all Dan's fault again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, frankblack said: Because Stendel's results led to our demotion. The St Mirren game was win or bust. Stendel didn't prepare us adequately and that is inexcusable. Yeah Ann took on the legal case because of Stendel, not because her and thousands of other supporters, thought it was unfair for us to be demoted. Yeah you are right fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: Neilson had a clean slate. Stendel came into a mess of a club with petulant players, underperforming players. He had to change the culture of the club and some didn’t like it. It staggers me many fans fail to recognise this? Imagine walking into that in December and having that pressure with everyone and their dog with a microscope pointed in his direction. It’s done now but, without trying to offend anyone, the lack of understanding from many is alarming. Of course , he made mistakes but he changed the way we played in a short time. Certain individuals clearly started playing better, his positive tactics were too much for some but maybe he had to recognise this? I think he did as we changed to a longer game after trying to implement a faster passing game. I doubt many of his fellow managers in the game envied the task he had. Some players who have let the club down for long enough still remain or are maybe being (finally) shown the door now. He did get a transfer window to bring in his own players and they were not good enough on the whole. I get what you are saying about trying to change the style of play, but that was perhaps naive given we needed to stabalise and avoid being reckless in our approach. You could drive a bus through our defence with his attempts to make us more attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Debut 4 said: Neilson had a clean slate. Stendel came into a mess of a club with petulant players, underperforming players. He had to change the culture of the club and some didn’t like it. It staggers me many fans fail to recognise this? Imagine walking into that in December and having that pressure with everyone and their dog with a microscope pointed in his direction. It’s done now but, without trying to offend anyone, the lack of understanding from many is alarming. Of course , he made mistakes but he changed the way we played in a short time. Certain individuals clearly started playing better, his positive tactics were too much for some but maybe he had to recognise this? I think he did as we changed to a longer game after trying to implement a faster passing game. I doubt many of his fellow managers in the game envied the task he had. Some players who have let the club down for long enough still remain or are maybe being (finally) shown the door now. I was very much team stendel, he got the benefit of the doubt all the way until the St Mirren game. That was when I started re-evaluating what I'd seen. For sure it was a challenging position to come into but he failed to balance his ideals with pragmatism and failed to get anything out of the team for that massive game. Having said that, for me he should have had more time, I really do think a manager should get 2 seasons except in extreme circumstances, but the decision was taken and I move on to supporting the next Hearts manager. I'd still be vaguely supportive of Stendel if it wasn't for the massively irritating campaign trying to convince us that the guy can fly. He made a bit of an arse of it but TBH I can forgive that to an extent, I expect that from managers until they find their feet in a role and get to shape things how they want properly. I don't think he was a massive failure, but I'm not having that he was amazing either (not you, you know who!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Yeah Ann took on the legal case because of Stendel, not because her and thousands of other supporters, thought it was unfair for us to be demoted. Yeah you are right fella. How many times have you replied while ignoring the key point that the court case was a result of the demotion Stendel landed us in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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