Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ted (Theodore) Logan said: A player from morecambe? Is this wise? So long as he brings me sunshine, I don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Roberts warrants the abuse for jogging around with his head down and not looking interested. I've no time for that and hopefully the coaching staff don't either, hence why he's disappeared. Harsh. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: So long as he brings me sunshine, I don't care That's Positive Thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Roberts clearly has something, he keeps getting picked up, but he's ****ing great at hiding it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, stuart500 said: That's Positive Thinking! Just spinning through the windmills in my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: I would keep Frear if we keep anyone, but with GMS, Ginnelly (hopefully), Henderson and White I think we have plenty of wide cover so he's a bit surplus now and hasn't done anything to suggest he could hold down a regular starting spot. Roberts was bought partly as an auxiliary striker I think to provide some height up front. We don't need him at all now. A Championship club would probably take him off our hands on loan. A 2 year contract was a bit of a misstep there, especially when we let Morrison leave and he's done quite well at Falkirk. Morrison is at his level. I wouldn't be surprised if he struggles back in the championship. Still don't think till this day the winger has crossed a decent ball yet. Don't think he ever crossed a half decent ball for us. And if he's not got the hang of it after 10 years of playing as a winger, I don't think we could have really afforded him much more time to figure out how to. Wish him all the best and maybe what he needs is a position change to a striker or attacking mid? But the main job of a winger is to provide crosses and Berra's cross the other week was better than anything I ever saw from Morrison. Feel for the boy but I'm sure someone will find a way to utilise his pace to make a career for him. Either way I doubt he's a championship level winger, never mind a Prem level winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, bobby bombscare said: Morrison is at his level. I wouldn't be surprised if he struggles back in the championship. Still don't think till this day the winger has crossed a decent ball yet. Don't think he ever crossed a half decent ball for us. And if he's not got the hang of it after 10 years of playing as a winger, I don't think we could have really afforded him much more time to figure out how to. Wish him all the best and maybe what he needs is a position change to a striker or attacking mid? But the main job of a winger is to provide crosses and Berra's cross the other week was better than anything I ever saw from Morrison. Feel for the boy but I'm sure someone will find a way to utilise his pace to make a career for him. Either way I doubt he's a championship level winger, never mind a Prem level winger. Not a fan of CM then 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Harsh. 😄 Sorry, I just think it was a waste of cash with Moore sitting doing nothing. I don't think Roberts is capable of Moore's performances last season and that's exactly what Neilson wanted and described Roberts with providing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Just saying he was part of that team effort. He did set up at least one goal in the Dundee game I think. In the Hibs game his constant loss of possession could have had us beat within 15 mins. He is just not interested. A panic buy cos we had no wingers. Laid ball back for Kingsley goal v Dundee which was nicely done but he plays often like he has no idea what others are doing. Edited January 29, 2021 by Riccarton3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under the floodlight Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Sorry, I just think it was a waste of cash with Moore sitting doing nothing. I don't think Roberts is capable of Moore's performances last season and that's exactly what Neilson wanted and described Roberts with providing. Roberts could be found out without a doubt, when he has to wear the Statsport technology if he's still here that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Just don't think we need him now, out wide or up front even as backup. Halliday offers something in a position where we don't have many other options although I agree he's not been brilliant. what exactly has Halliday offered in that position? a couple of goals to go with plenty of absolute howlers when free on goals. Not a physical presence, cant touch Irvine for passing, not steady as a defensive mid... At least Roberts provides pace. only thing he provides but it's still 1 more than Halliday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Ted (Theodore) Logan said: A player from morecambe? Is this wise? Luton Town are in for him apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: Not a fan of CM then 😄 Haha, i actually was when he first came on the scene! but all those years developing, years in the academy and a good few seasons in the first team and he still can't cross a ball. I mean, if he's not got it by then, he's not going to 😂 I still think he has potential to be a decent player (maybe even prem quality) as his touch, dribbling and passing seemed good enough. Just not as a winger. He could maybe be a box to box mid? bags of pace and energy! But i think for him to make the most of his ability, he needs to change position and given our struggles and the cancellation of reserve football, we can't afford to have a player learning a new position in our first team and taking up a wage while doing so. Edited January 29, 2021 by bobby bombscare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, BackOfTheNet said: I really don’t get the hatred towards Roberts. He’s hardly played enough to warrant such strong opinions I would say. There’s players who have contributed less than he has who get by without much being said. Halliday for example. Ah, but Halliday is 'staunch'. Same sort of mindset that preferred Lafferty to Isma, despite Isma having a better scoring record and contributing much more all round to the team. Fwiw, I'm happy to give Roberts another few chances. Halliday is practically an empty jersey at this stage though, considering his pedigree and off-field commitments, he's shown next to nothing to back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, bobby bombscare said: was any of what i said a lie though, Haha, i actually was when he first came on the scene! but all those years developing, years in the academy and a good few seasons in the first team and he still can't cross a ball. I mean, if he's not got it by then, he's not going to 😂 I still think he has potential to be a decent player (maybe even prem quality) as touch, drobbling and passing seemed good enough. Just not as a winger. He could maybe be a box to box mid? bags of pace and energy! But i think for him to make the most of his ability, he needs to change position and given our struggles and the cancellation of reserve football, we can't afford to have a player learning a new position in our first team and taking up a wage while doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Ah, but Halliday is 'staunch'. Same sort of mindset that preferred Lafferty to Isma, despite Isma having a better scoring record and contributing much more all round to the team. Fwiw, I'm happy to give Roberts another few chances. Halliday is practically an empty jersey at this stage though, considering his pedigree and off-field commitments, he's shown next to nothing to back it up. For me Halliday is a previously good player who hasn’t settled yet and hasnt shown us all he’s got Roberts is a previously average player who probably hasn’t setttled yet but probably isn’t good enough for Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: For me Halliday is a previously good player who hasn’t settled yet and hasnt shown us all he’s got Roberts is a previously average player who probably hasn’t setttled yet but probably isn’t good enough for Hearts But Halliday is given the benefit of the doubt for now. Roberts written off. Strange. I knew nothing about Roberts before he arrived so haven’t been that disappointed. Having seen Halliday knocking his pan in for Rangers I expected more to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Jamhammer said: But Halliday is given the benefit of the doubt for now. Roberts written off. Strange. I knew nothing about Roberts before he arrived so haven’t been that disappointed. Having seen Halliday knocking his pan in for Rangers I expected more to be honest And that’s why he gets the benefit of the doubt, because he was previously a very busy, if unspectacular player for Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Raith Rovers getting players from Fulham now! wits going on!? https://www.raithrovers.net/46351/timmy-abraham.htm?fbclid=IwAR0fcZ9NFnYF16JfeZwxFu-SnRhKO8WpUEf2Uuv2Jm84-HSoxpjzg6tUUe0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Must be using the money the mugs give them to watch streams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just watched Robbie's presser for tomorrow. Was asked by Brian Mcglauhlin "it's been reported that Stuart Findlay is one you are looking at on a pre contract for the summer, is that true?". Now Robbie gave the stock answer of there's a number of players we are looking at and we don't want to talk about other clubs players. That makes me think there is something in it as otherwise he'd have just said no. But I dunno where Brian is seeing it "reported" anywhere. First I'd heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Berra than you said: Just watched Robbie's presser for tomorrow. Was asked by Brian Mcglauhlin "it's been reported that Stuart Findlay is one you are looking at on a pre contract for the summer, is that true?". Now Robbie gave the stock answer of there's a number of players we are looking at and we don't want to talk about other clubs players. That makes me think there is something in it as otherwise he'd have just said no. But I dunno where Brian is seeing it "reported" anywhere. First I'd heard of it. Is he no injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: For me Halliday is a previously good player who hasn’t settled yet and hasnt shown us all he’s got Roberts is a previously average player who probably hasn’t setttled yet but probably isn’t good enough for Hearts A previous good player, who is now shit is just a shit player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Berra than you said: Just watched Robbie's presser for tomorrow. Was asked by Brian Mcglauhlin "it's been reported that Stuart Findlay is one you are looking at on a pre contract for the summer, is that true?". Now Robbie gave the stock answer of there's a number of players we are looking at and we don't want to talk about other clubs players. That makes me think there is something in it as otherwise he'd have just said no. But I dunno where Brian is seeing it "reported" anywhere. First I'd heard of it. Nah. Think he would give the stock answer in any case, over any player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Greedy Jambo said: Is he no injured? Think he is just now yeah. I dunno how long term it is but wouldn't stop us looking at him for the summer I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Barack said: If McGlaughlin is asking that, he's not pulled it out of his ample arse. My thoughts to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Just watched Robbie's presser for tomorrow. Was asked by Brian Mcglauhlin "it's been reported that Stuart Findlay is one you are looking at on a pre contract for the summer, is that true?". Now Robbie gave the stock answer of there's a number of players we are looking at and we don't want to talk about other clubs players. That makes me think there is something in it as otherwise he'd have just said no. But I dunno where Brian is seeing it "reported" anywhere. First I'd heard of it. He keeps getting mentioned on here because he's such an obvious left sided signing. Would be delighted with it. Interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Could be a fake injury i suppose, as in, he's in talks with us. Stranger things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 hours ago, wavydavy said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/carlos-mendes-gomes/profil/spieler/588412 Wrong list.... ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Did McCulloch sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Findlay is the perfect fit imo, left sided, big laddie with a good turn of pace and plenty first team experience in scotland at only 25 years old, 1 goal in 1 cap for Scotland is a pretty decent record too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Barack said: If McGlaughlin is asking that, he's not pulled it out of his ample arse. Yup, I have not seen that reported anywhere and he does get info from someone in the club, so would not surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, BigAlim said: Findlay is the perfect fit imo, left sided, big laddie with a good turn of pace and plenty first team experience in scotland at only 25 years old, 1 goal in 1 cap for Scotland is a pretty decent record too I agree. If Declan Gallagher is out of reach Findlay looks like the solid choice for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: that’s just not accurate though, not even an opinion.. Halliday has absolutely had some decent games. Thought hasn’t consistently reached the level required. Roberts hasn’t done anything at any point at all. Nothing.. he’s offered absolutely nothing Even if I thought Roberts has done nothing, which I don’t necessarily agree with and from the friendlies pre-season I think he has something to offer, the fact he’s been out injured or on the bench due to preferences for others more than he’s played I don’t get the hatred, you know? We had no idea who he was before this so no expectations. He hasn’t given goals away, we can’t lay any of the defeats at his feet. Genuinely don’t know why there’s the hatred. At most there should be a bit of “well, that’s not worked out, ah well” but the anger? Hatred? Slagging him off at any given opportunity? Absolutely no idea what he’s done to deserve it. Halliday on the other hand has offered a goal or two but really offers not much for us. If anything, with his ‘pedigree’ I would expect that people would be more angry at him for not delivering the performances they were expecting from him. (Personally I didn’t expect anything other than what he’s done, but a lot of people in the summer were saying he was exactly what we needed, so I’m wondering where their seethe is that he’s been performing the way he has been) 1 hour ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Roberts is one of the most chicken hearted players I have ever seen. He doesn't have the slightest interest of making a success of himself at Hearts. The sooner he is gone the better for all concerned. Really? That you have EVER seen? In his 10 games, some not full games? This is where kickback gets people saying things about players and they stick. It’s Sean Clare all over again who got called chicken hearted. At least Clare was playing in positions where he was expected to make tackles, so if someone said he was chicken hearted there was an argument to be had. (Which wasn’t true anyway) But Roberts is a winger, what lack of heart does he have that you’ve seen in his *checks notes* 10 games? 53 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: Ah, but Halliday is 'staunch'. Same sort of mindset that preferred Lafferty to Isma, despite Isma having a better scoring record and contributing much more all round to the team. Fwiw, I'm happy to give Roberts another few chances. Halliday is practically an empty jersey at this stage though, considering his pedigree and off-field commitments, he's shown next to nothing to back it up. Think you’re onto something here. Genuinely don’t see why Roberts deserves his seethe. Like he’s went into people’s house on Christmas Day and sneezed Covid on their presents. Just don’t get it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guess The Crowd Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Luton Town are in for him apparently. I see what you did there - I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Here's hoping Alex Dyer tells him to **** off now if he signs a pre contract 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, jambopilms said: A previous good player, who is now shit is just a shit player That’s true, but I’m not at the point of grading him as shit just yet. Having said that if he’s not here next season I won’t shed a tear, particularly if he’s been replaced by a better player. I expected him to be a midfield enforcer who would snarl and bite, like a sane and more likeable version of Scott Brown but he’s not really done that Edited January 29, 2021 by JimmyCant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Alan Campbell is who we are trying to push through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Would be happy with Findlay. Remember the first time I saw him for the under 21s against a very decent France side, thought he stood out. Will confess, no idea Kingsley played, interesting teams https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34495797 Edited January 29, 2021 by Sir Gio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, pointon said: Alan Campbell is who we are trying to push through Really? Pleasant surprise if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Sir Gio said: Would be happy with Findlay. Remember the first time I saw him for the under 21s against a very decent France side, thought he stood out Played for Dumbarton last time we were in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, pointon said: Alan Campbell is who we are trying to push through He's exactly what we need. Perfect foil for Irving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Findlay would be a good replacement for Berra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, pointon said: Alan Campbell is who we are trying to push through If that happens then that is a fantastic signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, Sir Gio said: Really? Pleasant surprise if true Not saying it will happen but he is the top target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Did McCulloch sign him? He had a few loan spells at killie before signing permanent. Played under Jig in 17/18 for 5 games, and I believe it was him who signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, pointon said: Not saying it will happen but he is the top target Good level of target. Daresay the boy will have choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Nobody wins every week. Nobody. If we have a 50% plus win rate at any time in our history then we are doing superbly. Any Hearts fans that studies our history in any way would be stupid to disagree. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: Good level of target. Daresay the boy will have choices Yip that is the case see how plays out 🤞🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Nobody wins every week. Nobody. If we have a 50% plus win rate at any time in our history then we are doing superbly. Any Hearts fans that studies our history in any way would be stupid to disagree. IMO When’s he signing 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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