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Ethan Hunt
2 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


But entirely what you’d expect of this Hearts regime

Boring!

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Dusk_Till_Dawn
1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

The lockdown restrictions have not been kind to you. You’ve turned into a right moaning fecker. While I am trying to support the club - financially or otherwise - all you seem to be interested in is having a go at the board, and AB in particular. I am no great fan of AB but I will fight for Hearts til my last breath. 

 

As for the Zlamal loan. He’s managed to be on the losing side again. Another loss against Dundee Utd and St Midden will soon be in the bottom two. Agent Bobby is doing just fine. 


Tell you what, I’ve been moaning about Budge for a lot longer than the lockdown 

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Francis Albert
11 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said:

I bought three season tickets and given the circumstances it really doesn’t bother me if the majority of the 18 games are watched in the house. 
 

No point the fans holding a gun to the clubs head over this .... how do the fans expect the club to survive if they were to get 18 games without paying more in 21/22 ??

Many of us and I suspect the vast majority of us would have been happy to pay more in 21/22.. But we haven't  been given  that option. Instead we have been shafted in 20/21.

 

Speaking as someone who personally is happy enough ... But still resents being treated like a door mat.

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Gorgie Boot boy
1 minute ago, Paulp74 said:

That's not what people are "moaning" about though. Everyone is aware that fans may not be allowed back into stadiums for some time. It's that the club guaranteed 18 games at Tynecastle, as a safety net to encourage fans to buy.  That has now been flipped to watching 18 games on an online stream so a bit different. 

 

It is pretty underhand and a kick in the teeth to a loyal and generous fan base. 

A lot of fans are stuck between a rock and hard place type situation on this. None of it is intentional, Hearts may well be looking into restructuring or rewards refunds. At this stage in the saga it is hard to read the way people are reacting . Covid 19 RESTRICTIONS.

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Saughton Jambo
5 minutes ago, Gorgie Boot boy said:

Who would have the brass neck to pull a stunt like though, actually go into the club and demand answers. Not during these times surely. Maybe do it on the phone or line right enough. That is a beamer.

Demand is putting words in ones mouth. Asking questions is a different scenario altogether. 

 

10 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

I’ll ask again. What did you think was going to happen? I’d rather not fall out but FFS did you honestly think COVID was just going to disappear and you’d be swanning about it corporate hospitality? 

 

I think I i you know as well as I do that the club won’t treat someone who has paid £1400 for a season ticket the same as a normal season ticket holder. Maybe worth holding off in the criticism until you contact the club and find out how they intend to deal with you. 

Thats a new low even for you. Don’t think I’ve ever ‘swanned about’ in any lounge as you describe it,  but the way I see it, I try to do what I can to help the club.
 

I’m happy to give donations to our club and have done over a number of years. Criticising the club, as you put it,  is not about the money but more of the clandestine way this has unfolded. 

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Ethan Hunt
1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:


Tell you what, I’ve been moaning about Budge for a lot longer than the lockdown 

Apologies. Before lockdown you were a moaning fecker, now you’re a boring moaning fecker.

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Gorgie Boot boy
2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Apologies. Before lockdown you were a moaning fecker, now you’re a boring moaning fecker.

 

3 minutes ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Demand is putting words in ones mouth. Asking questions is a different scenario altogether. 

 

Thats a new low even for you. Don’t think I’ve ever ‘swanned about’ in any lounge as you describe it,  but the way I see it, I try to do what I can to help the club.
 

I’m happy to give donations to our club and have done over a number of years. Criticising the club, as you put it,  is not about the money but more of the clandestine way this has unfolded. 

Nothing wrong with swanning about, it is the nesters i watch out for.

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Ethan Hunt
1 minute ago, Saughton Jambo said:

 

Thats a new low even for you. Don’t think I’ve ever ‘swanned about’ in any lounge as you describe it,  but the way I see it, I try to do what I can to help the club.
 

I’m happy to give donations to our club and have done over a number of years. Criticising the club, as you put it,  is not about the money but more of the clandestine way this has unfolded. 

Don’t give me the “new low” pish. We exchanged plenty of pm’s during the court case/arbitration process and I was more than supportive of you when folk were having a go at you about your “get the champagne in ice” moments. You are undoubtedly supportive of the club but to think for a minute that it was likely that we’d be at games at Tynecastle was a non starter. 

 

 

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Saint Jambo
13 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

I asked the guy a simple question. The same question I’d ask of you, and anybody else for that matter. What the feck did you think was going to happen if - as seemed likely - the issues with COVID continued? You didn’t have to be a brain surgeon to work out that the likelihood of attending a game in person was very, very, slim. To then turn round (and this is not directed at @Saughton Jambo in particular) and moan about it is pretty naive at best.

 

I sort of expected Hearts to do what they said they were going to do and provide credits in season 2021/22 for games that supporters weren't able to do in 2020/21. Why did I expect that? Because they made a big song and dance about it, telling me it was their "guarantee".

 

My only doubt was that when it was announced I looked at the business model and thought that it was really delaying financial pain and would significantly impact on revenue in 2021/22. As it stands the pledge still looks potentially really economically damaging, resulting in a possible 20%+ reduction in season ticket income for next season.

 

If they weren't going to do that, I expected them to be up front that they were now breaking their guarantee, explain why they were breaking their guarantee, acknowledge that we would have every right to a refund but ask us to yet again be the amazing supporters we are, pour more money into the club for little return and accept streamed games in lieu of tickets to attend games.

 

The club made a commercial blunder in making the guarantee in the first place. We know they did because they've had to scrap the guarantee just 4 and a half months later. They then compounded that mistake today with a communications blunder. We know they made a communications blunder because lots of their customers are visibly unhappy.

 

The club made two clear mistakes. You are blaming the loyal supporters for being unhappy they made these mistakes. Can you find it within yourself to even begin to admit the club made mistakes and they are responsible for making those mistakes? I'm going to guess no. Prove me wrong.

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luckydug
14 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said:

Demand is putting words in ones mouth. Asking questions is a different scenario altogether. 

 

Thats a new low even for you. Don’t think I’ve ever ‘swanned about’ in any lounge as you describe it,  but the way I see it, I try to do what I can to help the club.
 

I’m happy to give donations to our club and have done over a number of years. Criticising the club, as you put it,  is not about the money but more of the clandestine way this has unfolded. 

Why don't you speak to the club if you have a complaint and that goes for all the complainants.

 

Jambos Kickback
 
 
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Ethan Hunt
2 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

I sort of expected Hearts to do what they said they were going to do and provide credits in season 2021/22 for games that supporters weren't able to do in 2020/21. Why did I expect that? Because they made a big song and dance about it, telling me it was their "guarantee".

 

My only doubt was that when it was announced I looked at the business model and thought that it was really delaying financial pain and would significantly impact on revenue in 2021/22. As it stands the pledge still looks potentially really economically damaging, resulting in a possible 20%+ reduction in season ticket income for next season.

 

If they weren't going to do that, I expected them to be up front that they were now breaking their guarantee, explain why they were breaking their guarantee, acknowledge that we would have every right to a refund but ask us to yet again be the amazing supporters we are, pour more money into the club for little return and accept streamed games in lieu of tickets to attend games.

 

The club made a commercial blunder in making the guarantee in the first place. We know they did because they've had to scrap the guarantee just 4 and a half months later. They then compounded that mistake today with a communications blunder. We know they made a communications blunder because lots of their customers are visibly unhappy.

 

The club made two clear mistakes. You are blaming the loyal supporters for being unhappy they made these mistakes. Can you find it within yourself to even begin to admit the club made mistakes and they are responsible for making those mistakes? I'm going to guess no. Prove me wrong.

You’re wrong.The club have made mistakes. Personally I have enough about me to email the club and articulate that though. It seems others just want to moan their tits off on a fans forum. The good news for them is they might get a wee quote when Banderson runs the “Hearts fans furious at club season ticket betrayal” story tomorrow 👍 Loads of people will be happy with that headline.

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Costanza
4 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

I sort of expected Hearts to do what they said they were going to do and provide credits in season 2021/22 for games that supporters weren't able to do in 2020/21. Why did I expect that? Because they made a big song and dance about it, telling me it was their "guarantee".

 

My only doubt was that when it was announced I looked at the business model and thought that it was really delaying financial pain and would significantly impact on revenue in 2021/22. As it stands the pledge still looks potentially really economically damaging, resulting in a possible 20%+ reduction in season ticket income for next season.

 

If they weren't going to do that, I expected them to be up front that they were now breaking their guarantee, explain why they were breaking their guarantee, acknowledge that we would have every right to a refund but ask us to yet again be the amazing supporters we are, pour more money into the club for little return and accept streamed games in lieu of tickets to attend games.

 

The club made a commercial blunder in making the guarantee in the first place. We know they did because they've had to scrap the guarantee just 4 and a half months later. They then compounded that mistake today with a communications blunder. We know they made a communications blunder because lots of their customers are visibly unhappy.

 

The club made two clear mistakes. You are blaming the loyal supporters for being unhappy they made these mistakes. Can you find it within yourself to even begin to admit the club made mistakes and they are responsible for making those mistakes? I'm going to guess no. Prove me wrong.

Bang on again.

I also thought the guarantee was a bit too good to be true but it was pretty clear they meant attending games at Tynecastle.

Rather than publicly row back on the change of tack,  they've thus far tried to brazen it out.

Most supporters would have accepted this in order to avoid serious financial issues at the club but by not acknowledging the guarantee sleight of hand, they've made this a potentially costlier affair for them.

 

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LMc
3 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

You’re wrong.The club have made mistakes. Personally I have enough about me to email the club and articulate that though. It seems others just want to moan their tits off on a fans forum. The good news for them is they might get a wee quote when Banderson runs the “Hearts fans furious at club season ticket betrayal” story tomorrow 👍 Loads of people will be happy with that headline.

 

You actually emailed them? Wow. Well done big man. You're probably the only person that's done that.

 

 

:cornette:

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Ethan Hunt
1 minute ago, LMc said:

 

You actually emailed them? Wow. Well done big man. You're probably the only person that's done that.

 

 

:cornette:

You need to keep up Mr 86 posts.

 

I have already said I have no problem with a streamed match coming off my season ticket. In the post you quote I said “I have enough about me to email the club”, I didn’t say I had emailed the club and there’s a reason for that, unlike some, I’m actually not bothered about it. Now run along.

 

 

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Saint Jambo
15 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

You’re wrong.The club have made mistakes. Personally I have enough about me to email the club and articulate that though. It seems others just want to moan their tits off on a fans forum. The good news for them is they might get a wee quote when Banderson runs the “Hearts fans furious at club season ticket betrayal” story tomorrow 👍 Loads of people will be happy with that headline.

 

Well done.So you agree the views people are sharing when they say the club has made mistakes are actually accurate.

 

Now consider just how weird it is that you think fans shouldn't use a fans forums to share those views just in case the Evening News writes a mean story about us. Not only that but you've decided to take on the role of going from thread to thread telling everyone off for saying anything negative about the club to try and stop the Evening News writing that story. Tragic.

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Gorgie Boot boy
4 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

Well done.So you agree the views people are sharing when they say the club has made mistakes are actually accurate.

 

Now consider just how weird it is that you think fans shouldn't use a fans forums to share those views just in case the Evening News writes a mean story about us. Not only that but you've decided to take on the role of going from thread to thread telling everyone off for saying anything negative about the club to try and stop the Evening News writing that story. Tragic.

Accurate mistakes actually. I like that.

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Ethan Hunt
Just now, Saint Jambo said:

 

Well done.So you agree the views people are sharing when they say the club has made mistakes are actually accurate.

 

Now consider just how weird it is that you think fans shouldn't use a fans forums to share those views just in case the Evening News writes a mean story about us. Not only that but you've decided to take on the role of going from thread to thread telling everyone off for saying anything negative about the club to try and stop the Evening News writing that story. Tragic.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

”going from thread to thread telling people off”. What threads would those be, this one and the Zlamal to St Midden one? 

 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

So it would appear some fans can share their views but I’m not allowed to share mine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

You might want to look up the definition of supporter. Nothing to do with anyone writing a “mean” story and everything to do with not giving the club a right of reply before venting your spleen.

 

You’ll be the type that writes shite reviews on Tripadvisor despite being asked if everything was ok and replying “Yeah, everything’s great thanks”.

 

Tragic, indeed.

 

 

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colinmaroon
10 hours ago, Natural Orders said:

“This means that season ticket holders will get matchday access to Hearts TV included as part of the club’s 18-game season ticket guarantee that was announced earlier in the year.

The Jambos are set to play 14 home league games this season, therefore four fixtures will be credited to those who renew for 21/22 – in line with the 18 game guarantee.“

 

I actually think the season ticket should only include games when we can actually go to the games - otherwise we are just paying a lot of money for what essentially is a tv subscription.

 

Quelle surprise!

 

 

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Shanks

No doubt budge will release a statement saying that all the ‘genuine’ hearts fans will be happy with this.  
 


 

When was the last time we had competent ownership of the club? 

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luckydug

They made a mistake with the marketing, no doubt about that. 

People don't really think the club should be refunding tickets for all the BCD games this season do they ? 

Yet another feeding frenzy for the clubs 

'supporters' to get their teeth into. 

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jambocub

Not read the whole thread but sense a fair amount of folk are not happy .

 

Has anyone tried asking the club for a refund on this year's 

 

Surely the club wouldn't be hard to deal with ..

 

Apologies if already mentioned on thread

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LMc
19 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

You need to keep up Mr 86 posts.

 

I have already said I have no problem with a streamed match coming off my season ticket. In the post you quote I said “I have enough about me to email the club”, I didn’t say I had emailed the club and there’s a reason for that, unlike some, I’m actually not bothered about it. Now run along.

 

 

 

Sorry. Obviously don't spend enough of my time on internet forums. What a weird thing to comment on. Does that make you feel big as well? Don't worry I'll keep trying harder to get my post count up so I can be as cool as you! 

 

Maybe one day, I'll have enough post counts that I'll have enough about me to have the courage to email the club!

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Ethan Hunt
1 minute ago, jambocub said:

Not read the whole thread but sense a fair amount of folk are not happy .

 

Has anyone tried asking the club for a refund on this year's 

 

Surely the club wouldn't be hard to deal with ..

 

Apologies if already mentioned on thread

It would appear that slating the club on here is the most desirable option.  

 

 

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Jambo-Fox

It all makes sense.

It’s a relief that Hearts have done this, the financial consequences of honouring attendance at 18 matches would have been disastrous.
I can understand some being unhappy and feeling cheated, but perhaps now is the time to show forgiveness.

Personally I more than happy.

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Saint Jambo
6 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

”going from thread to thread telling people off”. What threads would those be, this one and the Zlamal to St Midden one? 

 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

So it would appear some fans can share their views but I’m not allowed to share mine 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

You might want to look up the definition of supporter. Nothing to do with anyone writing a “mean” story and everything to do with not giving the club a right of reply before venting your spleen.

 

You’ll be the type that writes shite reviews on Tripadvisor despite being asked if everything was ok and replying “Yeah, everything’s great thanks”.

 

Tragic, indeed.

 

 

 

A right of reply to their own statement? How does that work?

 

Your opinion on this thread has been a mixture of saying Hearts haven't done anything wrong and supporters shouldn't say mean things about Hearts. You've now admitted that Hearts have done things wrong, but you still don't think supporters shouldn't say anything negative about Hearts because that means we're not real supporters.

 

Ah, when you have no factual arguments to make throw in some emojis and post an insult based on an imaginary action in your head. Go back to telling me how much more clever and articulate you are than the rest of us. You really have me convinced.

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Jambo-Fox
8 minutes ago, Shanks said:

No doubt budge will release a statement saying that all the ‘genuine’ hearts fans will be happy with this.  
 


 

When was the last time we had competent ownership of the club? 

In my opinion until the current ‘regime’ never!

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Ethan Hunt
Just now, LMc said:

 

Sorry. Obviously don't spend enough of my time on internet forums. What a weird thing to comment on. Does that make you feel big as well? Don't worry I'll keep trying harder to get my post count up so I can be as cool as you! 

 

Maybe one day, I'll have enough post counts that I'll have enough about me to have the courage to email the club!

You’ve certainly spend enough of your time on this thread, with nothing positive to say. 

 

P.S. You don’t need courage to email the club, just an electronic device that connects to the internet.

 

 

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Saint Jambo
9 minutes ago, luckydug said:

They made a mistake with the marketing, no doubt about that. 

People don't really think the club should be refunding tickets for all the BCD games this season do they ? 

Yet another feeding frenzy for the clubs 

'supporters' to get their teeth into. 

 

Given the people that are annoyed are season ticket holders are you really suggest we are not supporters? It was more than a marketing mistake, it was a commercial mistake as well. The club was the one that announced to great fanfare that it was introducing the guarantee that you would get to be at 18 games for your money. People are annoyed that they were misled by the club who didn't even have the decency to apologise when they decided to unilaterally scrap the guarantee. In fact they didn't even acknowledge that they were doing so. 

 

6 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said:

It all makes sense.

It’s a relief that Hearts have done this, the financial consequences of honouring attendance at 18 matches would have been disastrous.
I can understand some being unhappy and feeling cheated, but perhaps now is the time to show forgiveness.

Personally I more than happy.

 

it would have been easier to show forgiveness rather than frustration if the club had acknowledged there was something to forgive. Today's announcement came across more like they were doing me a favour and giving me something more than I could have expected, rather than something less than had explicitly promised me a few months ago.

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Ethan Hunt
3 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

A right of reply to their own statement? How does that work?

 

Your opinion on this thread has been a mixture of saying Hearts haven't done anything wrong and supporters shouldn't say mean things about Hearts. You've now admitted that Hearts have done things wrong, but you still don't think supporters shouldn't say anything negative about Hearts because that means we're not real supporters.

 

Ah, when you have no factual arguments to make throw in some emojis and post an insult based on an imaginary action in your head. Go back to telling me how much more clever and articulate you are than the rest of us. You really have me convinced.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

FFS! Hearts made a statement. There is criticism of that statement. Hearts should have a right of reply to that criticism. A right of reply usually provides the opportunity to correct any misunderstanding, or offer further information. Surely that would be welcome?

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LMc
2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

You’ve certainly spend enough of your time on this thread, with nothing positive to say. 

 

P.S. You don’t need courage to email the club, just an electronic device that connects to the internet.

 

 

 

I don't spend my time boot licking. Maybe you should try it 👍 When the club does something positive, I'll support it 100%. When the club does something negative, I'll criticise it. Generally that's how life goes. I won't just blindly support the upper management whilst they crash through one bad decision to another. You on the other hand, Mr. **** knows how many posts, can't quite get enough of backing the club to the hilt whatever the decision. Probably congratulated the team on making it into the championship because it has the word champion in it.

 

Aye, I could email, but you need 'something about you', don't you? That's what you said, right?

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Ethan Hunt
9 minutes ago, LMc said:

 

I don't spend my time boot licking. Maybe you should try it 👍 When the club does something positive, I'll support it 100%. When the club does something negative, I'll criticise it. Generally that's how life goes. I won't just blindly support the upper management whilst they crash through one bad decision to another. You on the other hand, Mr. **** knows how many posts, can't quite get enough of backing the club to the hilt whatever the decision. Probably congratulated the team on making it into the championship because it has the word champion in it.

 

Aye, I could email, but you need 'something about you', don't you? That's what you said, right?

 

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PhoenixHearts

Can't be arsed trawling through what looks like pages of pointless bickering. 

 

Though personally I can and will take the hit, refuse a refund or the credited 4 games and I'll happily deal with the streaming, I wouldn't for one second assume that makes me a better Hearts supporter than anyone else, and the fact remains that some folks can't share in my privilege.

 

Calling other supporters arseholes for feeling misled or feeling they've been told a half truth isn't fair. In my view the club has probably been a bit (deliberately?) ambiguous with their guarantee and people are well within their rights to feel a little pissed off or sceptical.

 

Nobody wants to see the club suffer. Everyone wants to see us in a healthy financial positional, able pay our players and field a capable team of professionals. 

However some folks may also feel they have a legitimate grievance with the way the club has dealt with this.

I'm not necessarily vouching for these people demanding full refunds or suggesting court action, however everyone has their own limits to which they feel comfortable.

 

It's already been covered ad nauseum on here but some people just aren't as well off as others. Some people can't access the streams. Some people have multiple season tickets under the one household and are paying well over the odds.

 

The club matters but so do these supporters feelings and wellbeing. They shouldn't be cast out or have their "PHM" credentials called into question.

 

For me the club comes first, but just show some respect ffs. Everyone has their own circumstances and financial concerns.

 

Less of the bickering. We're all on the same team here.

 

 

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TheOak88

Another mess from the club. 

 

The 18 game guarantee was defo worded to suggest ST holders would get to physically attend 18 games (whether that be this season, or potentially spilling over into next season). 

 

But the thing that is most worrying is that the club seem to have deliberately ensured the wording of the 18 game guarantee is ambiguous. The idea that the club was happy to deliberately mislead a proportion of ST holders like this is pretty worrying. 

 

If they do not address this (and pretty quickly) I think they are gonna lose a lot of goodwill from a significant section of fans. 

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Wee Mikey
5 hours ago, Saughton Jambo said:

I’ve got the same scenario with my 3 corporate ones at £1400 each. Almost £4,200 to watch it from the comfort of my couch on an iPad. They didn’t tell me this when I renewed despite me asking numerous times 

Given that the Skyline has been open for paying customers, surely the part of your corporate tickets that covers hospitality could be honoured along with big screens. At least then folks like yourself would have some degree of Tynecastle match-day experience along with fellow supporters allbeit not sitting in your seat in the stand. I can't see any reason why the various lounges can't open just becaise there's a match on seeing as it's not like there'd be any contact with players/management etc. Just a thought. In fact, what would be wrong with opening the hydrolic seat section in the Gorgie stand and that way you could watch the game from the Gorgie Suite? I'm the eternal optomist, by the way.

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Mauricio Pinilla
5 hours ago, Paulp74 said:

That's not what people are "moaning" about though. Everyone is aware that fans may not be allowed back into stadiums for some time. It's that the club guaranteed 18 games at Tynecastle, as a safety net to encourage fans to buy.  That has now been flipped to watching 18 games on an online stream so a bit different. 

 

It is pretty underhand and a kick in the teeth to a loyal and generous fan base. 

 

Exactly. Mad that this is still needing explained to people after 17 pages. 

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hughesie27
9 hours ago, upgotheheads said:

 

You'll have heard of the Corona virus aye?

 

When did you buy your S/T? If you bought it anytime after lockdown in March you must have known that the likelihood was that there would be no football at all , never mind anyone in stadiums.

 

I bought mine with that understanding, and will buy another next year just to keep the club alive.

 

Correct. And Hearts told me I'd get to 18 games at Tynie regardless of which season.

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merseyjambo

Something that is being overlooked here is the fact that a lot of season tickets were bought prior to the loss of the court case and our compensation claim being thrown out.

 

We had asked for 8m on the basis we were probably hoping for half that. 11k season tickets at an average of £400 a pop is 4.4m. 
 

Maybe the club could have taken some of a hit if we had got some sort of compensation.

 

Unfortunately I would imagine that any plan they had, had to be revised due to fact that we got zero compensation for being demoted and any sort of plan with regard the ‘guarantee’ had to be reviewed or fiscally we would have been Donald Ducked. 
 

I get that people are unhappy with the way that this has been ‘sold’ to them, but the club are already dealing with a massive shortfall in income from no match day income, no TV income and even if we win the division, a much reduced prize income. We don’t have a Quatari or Oligarch owner who could use their own funds to assist. FoH income only goes so far. Between that and ST money as it stands we will be lucky if we break even on income and expenditure this season.
 

The other option is to throw the club into masses of debt again to cover our expenses this season to allow people to roll their season ticket forward to next year when things will hopefully be different.

 

Demotion has screwed us in a major way financially. Any cover of the ‘guarantee’ will screw the club either this season or next (assuming fans are able to get back into grounds in numbers by then).

 

 

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Bull's-eye

Time after time you read garbage on here from in general the same posters, season ticket sales will be low, nobody will turn up, sack everybody. Over and over and over again the real guys and gals step up to plate and understand fully the perilous situation the club is in and the uncertainty of the future. 

 

It wont change of course and the club will survive thanks to the trusted many that care about the club, the ones that continually belittle it publically bring nothing to the table and that's a great shame for everyone.

 

Can't wait for Saturday, I know the stream will be crap, I know we'll get beat, I know Craig Wighton won't score, this will be the 1st game of Football I've watched with any real interest for God knows how long.

 

Seriously excited, it's a shame not everyone feels the same eh.

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Beast Boy

What about the gorilla in the room though... a whole bunch of the moaners disappeared recently, after posting continuously for months. Now we have the same number of new posters moaning about the same things. It’s almost as if it’s the same folk. A strange phenomenon indeed. 🤔

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Mauricio Pinilla

I think even people who would usually defend the club are a bit miffed with this one tbh. 

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Holyrood_Hearts
3 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

I think even people who would usually defend the club are a bit miffed with this one tbh. 

I’m genuinely amazed anyone can back the club on this tbh yet still I see a few posters doing so. 
 

IMO, when they offered the “18 game guarantee” they thought we’d have fans back in stadiums, hence why the prices were sold as normal ST.
 

Now it’s clear this won’t be happening and instead of being honest, the club now are trying to pull a fast one on a fanbase that deserve better. It’s horrendous PR really. 

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highlandjambo3
12 hours ago, Jamhammer said:

Can I ask two tedious ****s (from the same family, obviously), to come to my gaff and sit behind me shouting, “FFS Hearts get it forward”, followed, immediately by, “FFS who’s that tae”?

Just to enhance my match day experience. 
Ive asked my Mrs but she says If Im gonna be screaming at the telly, like I do when watching West Ham she’s going out

 

Where do I sign up?

 

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Beast Boy
7 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said:

I think even people who would usually defend the club are a bit miffed with this one tbh. 


There will be some. Surely folk don’t believe that people just defend the club even when they are annoyed about something though? I don’t really believe that. JKB is nothing more than a forum where Hearts supporters can post their views and opinions, and the majority do so on a case by case basis. There are a couple of exceptions to the rules who will attack the club over anything, just because they don’t like the owner. I’ve never read one poster on here who doesn’t complain about the odd thing though. I could probably find an example of any poster you care to mention complaining or criticising about something.

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gashauskis9
7 hours ago, GorgieRules22 said:

I bought three season tickets and given the circumstances it really doesn’t bother me if the majority of the 18 games are watched in the house. 
 

No point the fans holding a gun to the clubs head over this .... how do the fans expect the club to survive if they were to get 18 games without paying more in 21/22 ??

This is a great post and you’ve made a point that most on here seem to have missed re 2021/22.


Bottom line is that the club needs money and sometimes you need to put pride to one side and support your club, regardless of the words they use in their social media.  

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GinRummy
8 minutes ago, Beast Boy said:


There will be some. Surely folk don’t believe that people just defend the club even when they are annoyed about something though? I don’t really believe that. JKB is nothing more than a forum where Hearts supporters can post their views and opinions, and the majority do so on a case by case basis. There are a couple of exceptions to the rules who will attack the club over anything, just because they don’t like the owner. I’ve never read one poster on here who doesn’t complain about the odd thing though. I could probably find an example of any poster you care to mention complaining or criticising about something.

I believe there are some people on this forum who defend the club no matter what. Even if it is blatantly obvious that the club have made a mistake or done something wrong. 

 

Like you, I also believe there are a few folk who just come on when things are bad to mump and moan.

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Bull's-eye
2 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

I believe there are some people on this forum who defend the club no matter what. Even if it is blatantly obvious that the club have made a mistake or done something wrong. 

 

Like you, I also believe there are a few folk who just come on when things are bad to mump and moan.

 

Disagree, everyone has a moan and groan. Most are discarded because they do it once and get on with life.

On the other side of the coin you have the moaners who just jump from thread to thread arguing with anybody who'll partake. This usually ends up with posters defending the club.

 

Standard JKB fare.

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Just now, Bull's-eye said:

 

Disagree, everyone has a moan and groan. Most are discarded because they do it once and get on with life.

On the other side of the coin you have the moaners who just jump from thread to thread arguing with anybody who'll partake. This usually ends up with posters defending the club.

 

Standard JKB fare.

I think that's true of most of the posters on the forum. Some folk just come on to moan and rarely make any comment other than negatives. Similarly there are always some people who just defend the club regardless of circumstance and just belittle and attack anyone who is critical.

 

I will concede there are way more moaners though.

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neilnunb
7 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said:

I doubt this thread turned out how you expected.

 

🤣 does any KB thread?

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Paolo
7 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Apologies. Before lockdown you were a moaning fecker, now you’re a boring moaning fecker.

Is there a reason why you are abusing fellow Hearts supporters, just for having a different opinion to you?

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