No self respect / backbone

[jambocub]

27 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

What else can it be though, what favour can this tinpot fo us? It was bad enough playing them in a friendly to be honest when teams that didn’t **** us over would’ve been happy to play us. 

Don't think anyone outside spl were able to play us as clubs playing friendlies needed to be testing twice a week 

 

[The Hogfather]

29 minutes ago, baxterd1974 said:

It was rhetorical,  thus no question mark. Thanks for helping prove my point.

 

Whatever helps you try and cover up the faux pas.

 

 

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

3 minutes ago, Gordon Ramsay said:

 

You'd like to think so but it's been one facepalm moment to the next with her in charge. I doubt it will ever change. 

 

This would be Robbie's decision though but again he has previous for misjudging the fans... Moneyspinner springs to mind. 

I'm confident Robbie will deliver for us and will cut him some slack as he has been away from all the turbulence at the club since he departed but now he is back he will hopefully get the mood of the supporters and act accordingly from now on.

[Boab Mugabe]

The levels of gaslighting directed towards trying to spin what ‘Only Hearts’ means - especially after the events and outright hostility the club has faced from other clubs - is incredible.

 

Fully believe Budge could change the club colours to green and white and you’d still have the usual suspects shilling for the club.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Boab Mugabe

[leginten]

1 minute ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

I'm confident Robbie will deliver for us and will cut him some slack as he has been away from all the turbulence at the club since he departed but now he is back he will hopefully get the mood of the supporters and act accordingly from now on.

Never had the impression when Robbie was last here that he particularly cared about or was even aware of the mood of the supporters. Maybe that’s not a bad thing in a manager if he has a clear vision and the ability to realise it. Could be that a willingness to read the room this time around would benefit him, though.

[Lone Striker]

1 hour ago, leginten said:

I asked another poster this. What’s the point of the slogan if it doesn’t represent anything at all different from what other clubs do, i.e. what is in the club’s best interest?

 

I realise we now have a fairly long tradition of empty words. I was just hoping “Only Hearts” weren’t two more.

You do realise that Only Hearts took off on JKB well before it appeared on Hearts website ?   Posters on here could probably give a variety of opinions on what they thought it  meant .... and then Hearts decide to use it to, so who knows what they thought it meant.   

[Leveins Battalion]

22 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

Hopefully the furious reaction to another head scratching decision by the club will hit home to Ann Budge that decisions to help the rogues that back stabbed us is now totally unacceptable. 

We now have a further problem in off loading a goalkeeper who is a disaster waiting to happen and has shown that again to any potential buyers.

 

Nothing hits home to Ann Budge.Her whole involvement now is a massive ego trip.

 

The unveiling of Daniel Stendel was the most awkward manager press reveal I have ever witnessed,due to her wanting her nibbens worth.

 

Again she calls a press conference to unveil Andrew McKinley and turns into the Ann Budge show.

 

I hope by the time the next AGM comes about that Covid-19 is dying out and she gets the level of scrutiny that her shambolic tenure deserves.

 

Queen Ann?Geez peace.

[gator]

41 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

1. Sending a player on a short loan to a club with Covid cases is a stupid risk for no obvious significant benefit.

 

2. Helping the SPFL avoid the embarrassment of a team starting with an outfield player in goal is beyond belief after the way they treated us.

 

3.Helping a club which has voted to harm us twice and gloated over our predicament in the press and social media is stupid.

 

4.Insulting our own fans who bought into the "Only Hearts" campaign is a massive own goal.

 

Whoever sanctioned the decision should resign now before they do any more harm.

That sums it up well for me, I can't disagree with any of that and I don't think I'm being petty!

[Niemi’s gloves]

7 minutes ago, Boab Mugabe said:

.

[Rods]

4 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

Nothing hits home to Ann Budge.Her whole involvement now is a massive ego trip.

 

The unveiling of Daniel Stendel was the most awkward manager press reveal I have ever witnessed,due to her wanting her nibbens worth.

 

Again she calls a press conference to unveil Andrew McKinley and turns into the Ann Budge show.

 

I hope by the time the next AGM comes about that Covid-19 is dying out and she gets the level of scrutiny that her shambolic tenure deserves.

 

Queen Ann?Geez peace.

Got to admit I am getting sick of seeing her on TV and it’s seems to be all the time. 

[leginten]

4 minutes ago, Lone Striker said:

You do realise that Only Hearts took off on JKB well before it appeared on Hearts website ?   Posters on here could probably give a variety of opinions on what they thought it  meant .... and then Hearts decide to use it to, so who knows what they thought it meant.   

Yes, I know it was on here before the club picked it up. And it’s a good slogan. If the club is using it, though, it should mean something less anodyne than “we will act in the club’s best interests”.

[Niemi’s gloves]

9 minutes ago, Boab Mugabe said:

The levels of gaslighting directed towards trying to spin what ‘Only Hearts’ means - especially after the events and outright hostility the club has faced from other clubs - is incredible.

 

Fully believe Budge could change the club colours to green and white and you’d still have the usual suspects shilling for the club.

For me “the usual suspects” on this thread are the serial Budge haters, some of them now morphing into Neilson haters. Perhaps it’s a good thing if we have no fans at games for quite a bit. I’d hate to have a rerun of last season with idiots screaming abuse not just at the manager and chairman, but also at the team and individual players from the 10th Minute of the very first competitive game of the season.

 

[CJGJ]

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

[jambo-in-furness]

4 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

 

Don’t be surprised if St Midden try for another goalie before Wednesday saying Bobby is injured.

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

6 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

Robbie slavering a load of fish ! That thought proccess is so far wide of the supporters it's untrue and if he doesn't get it he should pack his bags immediately 

[Boof]

6 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

 

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

 

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“

 

A little contradictory, no?

[Ex member of the SaS]

12 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

Can't see how giving the third choice useless keeper game time could possibly benefit Hearts. Getting shot permanently would benefit,  not three games to a club that shafted us on more than one occasion.

Robbie has shot himself and the club in the foot if he thinks this will explain away this God awful decision.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Ex member of the SaS

[Nookie Bear]

7 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

 

You know what will benefit Hearts? A siege mentality that would unite the club and take us forward into a new era, using the millions we plough in as fans and taking advantage of  the struggles other clubs are facing. 
 

And I don’t give a toss about our hird choice keeper getting a couple of games.

 

We truly are the Banter FC. 

 

[i8hibsh]

Having to send out our players to tin pot clubs as male escorts could've been avoided if Ann Budge had not turned us into a bunch of 5 year old girls who have been playing hopscotch for the past 5 years.

[Bazzas right boot]

Folk  thinking loaning Bobby to St Mirren is doing them a favour... 

 

 

Have you seen him play? 

[Leveins Battalion]

22 minutes ago, Rods said:

Got to admit I am getting sick of seeing her on TV and it’s seems to be all the time. 

 

Since the announcement yesterday there has not been a peep from Hearts media team.

 

I think they know what is coming.Normally on a Sunday they push the restaurant and bar,club shop etc.The supporter backlash runs deeper than sending Bobby Zlamal through there for a few games,the penny is dropping,Hearts fans are a cash cow to mask the failures of our underperforming and inept Board .

[Neil Dongcaster]

It’s a balancing act for those in charge. For me the game time Bobby got plus the meagre financial benefit is nowhere near enough to justify the upsetting the most important people associated with the club - us.

[leginten]

25 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

“Just moving on” is what has got this club into the state it’s in today. In the lexicon of Hearts, it translates as “lap it up, suckers”.

[CJGJ]

5 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

Since the announcement yesterday there has not been a peep from Hearts media team.

 

I think they know what is coming.Normally on a Sunday they push the restaurant and bar,club shop etc.The supporter backlash runs deeper than sending Bobby Zlamal through there for a few games,the penny is dropping,Hearts fans are a cash cow to mask the failures of our underperforming and inept Board .

Ah one of the leaders of the 'inability to understand gathering' on here

 

Silly little trolls really don't work in the grown ups world but as it seems to help you and keeps you out of trouble post away.

 

Another for the 'posts like Trump' list on here

[Rick Sanchez]

19 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

You know what will benefit Hearts? A siege mentality that would unite the club and take us forward into a new era, using the millions we plough in as fans and taking advantage of  the struggles other clubs are facing. 
 

And I don’t give a toss about our hird choice keeper getting a couple of games.

 

We truly are the Banter FC. 

 

 

This.

 

I don't even fight our corner on social media anymore. We bring it all on ourselves.

[Randy Marsh]

18 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

You know what will benefit Hearts? A siege mentality that would unite the club and take us forward into a new era, using the millions we plough in as fans and taking advantage of  the struggles other clubs are facing. 
 

And I don’t give a toss about our hird choice keeper getting a couple of games.

 

We truly are the Banter FC. 

 

This.  Zlamal is clearly 3rd choice now so it really doesn't matter if he gets game time.  Feeble excuse. 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

7 minutes ago, leginten said:

“Just moving on” is what has got this club into the state it’s in today. In the lexicon of Hearts, it translates as “lap it up, suckers”.

Yup, which a load of roasters on here do.

 

Shan Budge strikes yet again, I’m afraid. She’s got enough **** ups now to release a greatest hits.

[The Treasurer]

On 12/09/2020 at 13:00, 1874robbo said:

Are we not allowed to say no without it constituting pettiness?

saying no is our business.

Do we  need to say Yes to every request from every club now or we will look petty?

I doubt there will be a queue of clubs wanting to take half the team on loan 

[The Treasurer]

On 12/09/2020 at 13:01, Nunya Business said:

 

If you think St Mirren would do us any favours based on us lending hem a goalkeeper for a week, with all due respect, you're ****ing at it.

Who said anything about favours. 

[Glottis]

**** the Hibs before everybody else.

 

Too many people getting their panties in a twist over a standard (albeit emergency) football transfer.

[busby1985]

Waited a day to post cause yesterday I was raging, disappointed and so was a decent wedge of our support. I have two takes on what’s happened: 

 

1. Having watched yesterday’s highlights it’s only heightened my belief that Bobby isn’t anywhere near the required standard, nice guy but miles off it. My hope is that Gordon, Gallagher have fed this back to Robbie and co and that the wheels have been in motion behind the scenes to move Bobby on and yesterday was the first step in doing exactly that. So from a footballing stand point, Bobby to St Mirren and then potentially Bobby out the door, makes sense. I understand the negative reaction to us doing business with a club so vocal in their kicking of us, chairmen and manager particularly. I get that and yesterday that’s all I could think about was how it was a kick in my teeth but having had a day to reflect and having seen bobby’s performance, I think the bigger picture is getting bobby off the books. Doesn’t mean I am 100% happy with what has went on but I can kind of understand the clubs thinking from a footballing stance. 
 

2. I am concerned, again, by the division that opens up with any decision made by the club and I think it symbolises a very big issue we currently have. Last time in the championship we had one/two days of negativity around “Budgement day” but after that everything was nothing but positivity and that reflected on the park. We have just come off the worst season in the clubs recent history and what followed was months and months of Hearts and everything connected to Hearts getting a kick in and we become the brunt of every joke and snide comment from rivals fans to the media and it stung. There is an anger amongst Hearts fans that will not go away and for me it should be used to galvanise everyone together, the “only Hearts” statement was a cracker. The fans have done their part since the arbitration result and the bobby situation was the first opportunity the club have had to kick back and we didn’t take it. Robbie isn’t and wasn’t a unanimously popular appointment, I for one have my doubts about his return, and this decision has heaped massive pressure on himself and the side. Hibs are flying, we can laugh and joke all we like about them but they are sitting second in the league, beating sides we have struggled to beat for years, scoring goals etc and have momentum behind them. Robbie cannot start the season with any form of negative result, he has to win every game up to and including the semi or the anger will be focused back onto the football team. Allowing Bobby to join St Mirren was a mistake and it could turn into a huge mistake. The anger of the Hearts support was outward and was being used to galvanise behind the club, FoH donations, season books, shirt sales, Gorgie suite, sky lounge bar etc etc. The anger is now inward and that isn’t what the club wants. 
 

Poor decision, even tho I can understand the footballing reasons behind it. We always seem To miss the bigger picture and that’s a concern. 

[Ethan Hunt]

5 hours ago, leginten said:

To what extent is “Only Hearts” different to the principles applied by any other club, then? Is it just an empty slogan?

Probably none, but we are at least now very open about our future self interest while other clubs will still try and deny the fact that they operate in that way.

 

How do you want the Only Hearts philosophy to operate? We become totally self sufficient? We don’t loan or buy players from other clubs? What does Only Hearts mean to you?

 

Ann Budge has previously spent time, energy, and effort doing things she thought would benefit Scottish football. Likewise our benefactors. The Only Hearts philosophy suggest AB - and the benefactors - will only be doing things to the benefit of Hearts in future. 

 

If it benefits Hearts that Zlamal goes out on loan, Robbie gets to look at him in first team competitive action, and that helps to help Robbie make his mind up about Zlamal one way or the other then so what? I can’t really see why people are so bothered about a player the majority of Hearts fans don’t rate, going on loan to a club the very vast majority of Hearts fans hate. So what?

[David Black]

1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

Since the announcement yesterday there has not been a peep from Hearts media team.

 

I think they know what is coming.Normally on a Sunday they push the restaurant and bar,club shop etc.The supporter backlash runs deeper than sending Bobby Zlamal through there for a few games,the penny is dropping,Hearts fans are a cash cow to mask the failures of our underperforming and inept Board .

Well said.

[David Black]

17 minutes ago, busby1985 said:

Waited a day to post cause yesterday I was raging, disappointed and so was a decent wedge of our support. I have two takes on what’s happened: 

 

1. Having watched yesterday’s highlights it’s only heightened my belief that Bobby isn’t anywhere near the required standard, nice guy but miles off it. My hope is that Gordon, Gallagher have fed this back to Robbie and co and that the wheels have been in motion behind the scenes to move Bobby on and yesterday was the first step in doing exactly that. So from a footballing stand point, Bobby to St Mirren and then potentially Bobby out the door, makes sense. I understand the negative reaction to us doing business with a club so vocal in their kicking of us, chairmen and manager particularly. I get that and yesterday that’s all I could think about was how it was a kick in my teeth but having had a day to reflect and having seen bobby’s performance, I think the bigger picture is getting bobby off the books. Doesn’t mean I am 100% happy with what has went on but I can kind of understand the clubs thinking from a footballing stance. 
 

2. I am concerned, again, by the division that opens up with any decision made by the club and I think it symbolises a very big issue we currently have. Last time in the championship we had one/two days of negativity around “Budgement day” but after that everything was nothing but positivity and that reflected on the park. We have just come off the worst season in the clubs recent history and what followed was months and months of Hearts and everything connected to Hearts getting a kick in and we become the brunt of every joke and snide comment from rivals fans to the media and it stung. There is an anger amongst Hearts fans that will not go away and for me it should be used to galvanise everyone together, the “only Hearts” statement was a cracker. The fans have done their part since the arbitration result and the bobby situation was the first opportunity the club have had to kick back and we didn’t take it. Robbie isn’t and wasn’t a unanimously popular appointment, I for one have my doubts about his return, and this decision has heaped massive pressure on himself and the side. Hibs are flying, we can laugh and joke all we like about them but they are sitting second in the league, beating sides we have struggled to beat for years, scoring goals etc and have momentum behind them. Robbie cannot start the season with any form of negative result, he has to win every game up to and including the semi or the anger will be focused back onto the football team. Allowing Bobby to join St Mirren was a mistake and it could turn into a huge mistake. The anger of the Hearts support was outward and was being used to galvanise behind the club, FoH donations, season books, shirt sales, Gorgie suite, sky lounge bar etc etc. The anger is now inward and that isn’t what the club wants. 
 

Poor decision, even tho I can understand the footballing reasons behind it. We always seem To miss the bigger picture and that’s a concern. 

Good post, but you are presuming the loan was the initial stage of getting BZ out the door. Maybe it was just as RN has said.

[Ethan Hunt]

I’m amazed at how many posters want a siege mentality but want to attack Ann Budge - one of our own - and the club at the same time. 

 

Strange behaviour by so called Hearts fans.

[Pilmuir]

2 hours ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

1. Sending a player on a short loan to a club with Covid cases is a stupid risk for no obvious significant benefit.

 

2. Helping the SPFL avoid the embarrassment of a team starting with an outfield player in goal is beyond belief after the way they treated us.

 

3.Helping a club which has voted to harm us twice and gloated over our predicament in the press and social media is stupid.

 

4.Insulting our own fans who bought into the "Only Hearts" campaign is a massive own goal.

 

Whoever sanctioned the decision should resign now before they do any more harm.

Decent overview. You should send it to AB.

[busby1985]

Just now, Ethan Hunt said:

I’m amazed at how many posters want a siege mentality but want to attack Ann Budge - one of our own - and the club at the same time. 

 

Strange behaviour by so called Hearts fans.

You can’t understand how fans may be annoyed at the bobby situation? “So called” is the worst patter on here. 

[Ethan Hunt]

1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

Since the announcement yesterday there has not been a peep from Hearts media team.

 

I think they know what is coming.Normally on a Sunday they push the restaurant and bar,club shop etc.The supporter backlash runs deeper than sending Bobby Zlamal through there for a few games,the penny is dropping,Hearts fans are a cash cow to mask the failures of our underperforming and inept Board .

Rather than the club operating as a business, offering services that supporters can choose to use, or not, in an effort to make money during one of the worst economic downturns in decades it should just shut up shop. Maybe best that the club doesn’t try to make money and just goes out of business. That would show everyone eh!

[Ethan Hunt]

1 minute ago, busby1985 said:

You can’t understand how fans may be annoyed at the bobby situation? “So called” is the worst patter on here. 

Correct, I can’t understand why fans are annoyed by the “Bobby situation”. A below average keeper gets loaned to a club most Hearts fans hate, so fecking what?!  

 

It’s simply a rod to beat Ann Budge and the club with. Loads of arsehole fans have been waiting for an opportunity to have a go and have chosen this to make their wee stand. Bash on if you want. I’ll pass on it though.

[SMJ_1874]

1 hour ago, Lone Striker said:

You do realise that Only Hearts took off on JKB well before it appeared on Hearts website ?   Posters on here could probably give a variety of opinions on what they thought it  meant .... and then Hearts decide to use it to, so who knows what they thought it meant.   

I’m sure I seen it here on JKB before the phrase became popular, hence the back of the tees

[jambomjm74]

Yet another own goal by the club, we were under no pressure to help, so a simple no as we are training for the start of our season having been delayed and need all our players would have sufficed. 
But we have bigger challenges, a squad packed full of dross/crocks and chancers that a new manager has to somehow reinvent into a football team. 

The challenge that as we get rid of the dross, we need to replace with quality, where the league is a joke part time start in Oct set up. 
Yet again our owner has let the fans down she has a history of this and doing things as she sees fit...  I lost faith when the product on the park was left to Levein to create his freak show and the stands were sanitised and football became one of the many priorities of the club 
 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

15 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Rather than the club operating as a business, offering services that supporters can choose to use, or not, in an effort to make money during one of the worst economic downturns in decades it should just shut up shop. Maybe best that the club doesn’t try to make money and just goes out of business. That would show everyone eh!

Maybe treat the very supporters who pump vast amounts of money in with respect 

[leginten]

18 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Probably none, but we are at least now very open about our future self interest while other clubs will still try and deny the fact that they operate in that way.

 

How do you want the Only Hearts philosophy to operate? We become totally self sufficient? We don’t loan or buy players from other clubs? What does Only Hearts mean to you?

 

Ann Budge has previously spent time, energy, and effort doing things she thought would benefit Scottish football. Likewise our benefactors. The Only Hearts philosophy suggest AB - and the benefactors - will only be doing things to the benefit of Hearts in future. 

 

If it benefits Hearts that Zlamal goes out on loan, Robbie gets to look at him in first team competitive action, and that helps to help Robbie make his mind up about Zlamal one way or the other then so what? I can’t really see why people are so bothered about a player the majority of Hearts fans don’t rate, going on loan to a club the very vast majority of Hearts fans hate. So what?

 

You appear to overlook the very obvious fact that an action we have taken on a voluntary basis was of considerable benefit to a club intensely disliked by the vast majority of Hearts supporters and of even greater benefit to the organisation which treated us with such contempt just a few months back. So we’re quite obviously still doing the “benefit to the wider game” thing. Which still leaves me wondering what “Only Hearts” means to the current board.

 

Meanwhile I’m sure Hearts will have derived enormous benefit from sending a crap keeper to a coronavirus-riddled club to have whatever residual confidence he had destroyed in a game against a club he may shortly face in a semi-final. It all makes perfect sense.

 

[jambomjm74]

1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Maybe treat the very supporters who pump vast amounts of money in with respect 

Totally agree. 
The building bridges stuff is just rubbish at this point in time, let’s wait till we actually get some football and some sort of equality. 
Again it convinces me the board of Hearts are not fit to run the club.

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

2 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said:

Totally agree. 
The building bridges stuff is just rubbish at this point in time, let’s wait till we actually get some football and some sort of equality. 
Again it convinces me the board of Hearts are not fit to run the club.

Just wait till football back and all these clubs chairman will get V.I.P treatment at tynecastle when they visit 

[1874robbo]

57 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I doubt there will be a queue of clubs wanting to take half the team on loan 

Who said a queue of clubs and half the team? Certainly wasn’t me in my post.

[true-jambo]

Many of those, if not defending the decision, are attempting to justify it from the club's perspective by citing pragmatism as a reason. Surely any pragmatist would not risk alienating a large percentage of their customer base for a benefit which hardly registers. RN in attempting to justify it really needs to think carefully before making statements which supporters find baffling, was this move solely for the player's benefit or for Hearts benefit, just a tad confusing Robbie. 

 

As for the argument about never doing business with those on the "blacklist" of course we will resume business dealings with them in the future , but timing is all, and the wounds caused by the behaviour  of so called fellow clubs are still mightily raw for many of us. AB had managed to recover a great deal of her lost credibility this summer by fighting the expulsion farce tooth and nail, well she has lost an awful lot of it again with this decision. 

 

When introducing the new CEO, AB said his biggest issue would be her, as she is a bit of a control freak (I am paraphrasing her here) so if this was as has been suggested a football department decision, perhaps she ought to have intervened and explained there is a bigger picture here. Leadership is about knowing when to delegate and when to impose your authority. I once worked for a boss who had a favourite saying "sometimes there needs to be a democracy of one"

 

[1874robbo]

2 hours ago, CJGJ said:

You've been told so just move on ...the drama queens on here are beyond a joke

 

Robbie Neilson has explained Hearts' decision to loan Zdenek Zlamal to St Mirren ahead of the Paisley club's defeat to Hibs.

The Jambos boss says the move was purely for the 'keeper's benefit as it allowed him to play three top level matches against the Easter Road side, Celtic and Dundee United.

Hearts fans were left angry at the decision with feelings still raw over the way the club was treated throughout the Scottish football shutdown.

However Neilson explained that the loan will benefit Hearts, and that's the most important thing from his point of view.

He told Hearts TV : “This is purely a move for Bobby’s benefit. He’ll get to play three competitive games in a week, against three sides who have started the season well.

“Our training has been first class so far and the lads are doing really well, however, this is an opportunity for Bobby to get some competitive games under his belt early on.

Well that explains everything!!

crystal clear now, thanks for posting 👍🏻

[neilnunb]

St Mirren/Jim Badloser said they had a list of 27 names. We should have told them to **** off and use it.

 

Not only should Budge have known the dislike we have for St Mirren generally, even before recent events, but Neilson should have. He played for us for long enough ffs.

 

I couldn't give a **** about building bridges (we did **** all wrong!) or supposed petty grudges. These clubs had no second thoughts about screwing us over. I hope they ****ing rot...and no, it won't be a one season feeling.

 

 

 

 

[Beast Boy]

2 hours ago, Lone Striker said:

You do realise that Only Hearts took off on JKB well before it appeared on Hearts website ?   Posters on here could probably give a variety of opinions on what they thought it  meant .... and then Hearts decide to use it to, so who knows what they thought it meant.   

Yes, I do know that. @davemclaren has mislaid the thread, but it was a thread titled “Hearts First”. It came across a wee bit “Britain First” so I suggested “Only Hearts”. It was suggested in the theme of giving other clubs **** all, and directing the money we would normally give to them to Hearts instead. The logo was created by @22games nro I think. Also suggested on the thread was Dave MacKay’s famous “always Hearts”, but a few of us felt “Only Hearts” was more appropriate for this particular situation.

 

Hearts adopted it from here, but they don’t really seem to be using it with the same sentiment in mind.