JyTees Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 And if the mods think that politics isn't driving decisions that should be discussed on here then there's clearly no point in debating the debacle that's engulfed our game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: **** them I hope they go bust What have Berwick Rangers done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo191 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What a ****ing farce. I’m livid. Can we take this to court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Carry On Training. Another in the farcical series starring Syd Dongcaster and Hattie Petrie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I really hope all this is a ****ing wake up call to Budge, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jambo191 said: What a ****ing farce. I’m livid. Can we take this to court? Nobody in Scottish football can take anybody else in Scottish football to court, well they can but the court will send it back to the SFA arbitration panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The only way this is ever going away now is if there's a root and branch clear out of the SPFL/SFA. I want us back in training or out of the cup along with a vote of no confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, i8hibsh said: I really hope all this is a ****ing wake up call to Budge, I really do. In what way? She is already fully aware of what the SFA and SPFL are like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arry Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hearts are already training because of the court case and the Premiership and the possibility they would be up there. "My understanding is they won't have to stop training." Leitch was then told that Hearts have indeed been told they must halt all training with immediate effect. When asked if that was a government instruction he responded: "No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said: What have Berwick Rangers done? Did you miss them voting to demote us and against reconstruction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, JyTees said: And if the mods think that politics isn't driving decisions that should be discussed on here then there's clearly no point in debating the debacle that's engulfed our game! Oh it’s political alright, just not national governmental politics. That’s the whole point. The politics involved in this decision are those of a football nature, and you and one or two others are doing Hearts a disservice by allowing the issue to be sidetracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said: FFS, Berwick Rangers have started training, what are these tinpot clubs playing at? Others have mentioned it before. But what's to stop Hearts going on a "team building" break south of the border for a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: In what way? She is already fully aware of what the SFA and SPFL are like. That utter bore has to somehow point a finger of blame at Budge no mater what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoleto Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Back to the Courts we go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, graygo said: Nobody in Scottish football can take anybody else in Scottish football to court, well they can but the court will send it back to the SFA arbitration panel. yep. Like Groundhog Day. Like a dictatorship in a country like Zimbabwe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Arry said: Hearts are already training because of the court case and the Premiership and the possibility they would be up there. "My understanding is they won't have to stop training." Leitch was then told that Hearts have indeed been told they must halt all training with immediate effect. When asked if that was a government instruction he responded: "No. Sadly some are ignoring this because to them it is more important to turn this in to a political point scoring exercise instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: In what way? She is already fully aware of what the SFA and SPFL are like. In the way that if we prioritised winning over everything else up to this point we would not be in this situation. It is done and dusted now but she simply must start to understand the true nature of this game. 1. The fans (all fans and not just the ones she wants) and 2. Winning. EVERTHING else is secondary. Edited August 13, 2020 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Beast Boy said: Sadly some are ignoring this because to them it is more important to turn this in to a political point scoring exercise instead. That includes Chris McLaughlin of the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cruickshankforscotland said: Good statement from the Club. I really hope we follow that up in a big way. Even with a sensitive subject like Covid we should make a formal protest to the SPFL and SFA. WE should ask them to formally reply to all the points raised in the statement. We should request that if the decision stands that they meet the extra expense we incurred caused by that decision. We must ask for them to explain to us how the Premier teams are allowed to gain from unfair advantage in the cup competitions to be played in October. We need to go for this as strongly as possible. Unfortunately I think that we can make all the protests that we like but everything will be knocked back and they will get away with it because we are on our own and everybody else will just laugh, as we will be seen as being forced to take our medicine at last. I'm afraid that I'm now of the opinion that we can't beat this. We flung the kitchen sink at it and still got screwed over and it's not finished yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Tott said: Others have mentioned it before. But what's to stop Hearts going on a "team building" break south of the border for a few weeks. take the months FOH and go abroad ? We clearly aren’t bound by SPL rules so go abroad on us and have 2-3 weeks in the sun and contact train ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: Oh it’s political alright, just not national governmental politics. That’s the whole point. The politics involved in this decision are those of a football nature, and you and one or two others are doing Hearts a disservice by allowing the issue to be sidetracked. Don't be so naive. Of course the SG are involved just not in the way the SPFL and their BBC apologists are trying to portray them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo99 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: We do! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tott said: Others have mentioned it before. But what's to stop Hearts going on a "team building" break south of the border for a few weeks. 😆 the Hearts might be going to England .... imagine if they are invited to stay?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, gashauskis9 said: Right on cue. cant help himself. Absolutely tragic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tott Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, 1971fozzy said: take the months FOH and go abroad ? We clearly aren’t bound by SPL rules so go abroad on us and have 2-3 weeks in the sun and contact train ? Its scorchio in south east england,send them on a jolly boys outing to margate....much cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Don't be so naive. Of course the SG are involved just not in the way the SPFL and their BBC apologists are trying to portray them. Of course they are involved. I’m far from naive, it’d take someone with no head to not realise that. Leitch has stated the SG’s position quite clearly. The topic however is Hearts being told to stop training. That is down to the JRG. Edited August 13, 2020 by Beast Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number-16 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 My suspicion is that if Nicola gets a lot of questions about this at her daily briefing then she'll have a quiet word with Doncaster to get it sorted. The Government try to avoid football team politics and won't like getting drawn into by an organisation trying to shirk responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxpop Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Simply withdraw from the cup semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrywragg Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I doubt we'll be playing at all this season - Champ/L1/L2 are collectively an irrelevance to those chosen "to represent the members". Decision to shut down your training is both unbelievable and completely anti-competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: That includes Chris McLaughlin of the BBC You expect it from wee scumbag ****s like him. Hearts supporters though? ****ing hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast_blood Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Did you miss them voting to demote us and against reconstruction? Did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tott said: Its scorchio in south east england,send them on a jolly boys outing to margate....much cheaper £151,000 and have a couple of weeks in 5* luxury. All for the seethe . Would love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Did you miss them voting to demote us and against reconstruction? Their a non league team, therefore, didn’t have vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fast_blood said: Did they? No. I’m annoyed and lashing out. Edited August 13, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, number-16 said: My suspicion is that if Nicola gets a lot of questions about this at her daily briefing then she'll have a quiet word with Doncaster to get it sorted. The Government try to avoid football team politics and won't like getting drawn into by an organisation trying to shirk responsibility. who’s going to question her though? That roaster Chris McLaughin ? My mother would be closer to asking him the right questions and she knows fek all about football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunts Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It’s looking more and more likely that the premier league will shut down and the lower leagues won’t even start. I dont think we should be signing anyone at the moment because I’m not confident we’ll get to play a game this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Their a non league team, therefore, didn’t have vote! Omg I’m all over the place with rage 🤬🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I just read the Hearts statement! This particular paragraph got me slightly annoyed. Quote When questioned in what way this was “the fairest way forward”, we were advised that some other clubs now wanted to return to training and it was deemed that by preventing them from doing so, without halting our training, would give us an unfair advantage. Bunch of dithering, persistently problematic, intensely selfish, cumbersome, profusely tin-potted, waddling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxpop Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I suspect we will see football violence at the cup semi if we play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, hunts said: It’s looking more and more likely that the premier league will shut down and the lower leagues won’t even start. I dont think we should be signing anyone at the moment because I’m not confident we’ll get to play a game this year. My thoughts...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruickshankforscotland Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1953 said: Unfortunately I think that we can make all the protests that we like but everything will be knocked back and they will get away with it because we are on our own and everybody else will just laugh, as we will be seen as being forced to take our medicine at last. I'm afraid that I'm now of the opinion that we can't beat this. We flung the kitchen sink at it and still got screwed over and it's not finished yet. My thinking is that we must take them on, even knowing we have do it on our own. Make all our protests and communications public and force them in to responding or being seen to refuse to respond. No point in playing by their conventions. Defend our corner by protesting vehemently, whilst acting within the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2205ian Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Aye they were all going to start training tomorrow - RIGHT THEN 😂😂 lying *******s. Only working my way through this, but I had the same sentiments.Sure, it's normal to return to training on a Friday & take your players off furlough when you have no income hitting your club's Bank A/C!! SPFL/SFA are corrupt to the core. They are not even trying to hide it. Wonder if any of the media will have the guts to raise the issue at tomorrow's SG Briefing? On second thoughts, what a fool I am thinking this could actually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast_blood Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Yes 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Yes Nah, they didn't. In fact their manager wanted Kelty promoted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 By the way, that bit where we asked for time to consider the ramifications of this and they went ahead and published the statement anyway tells me everything I need to know about these people. They are bullies and need sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDevriesScores4 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Voxpop said: I suspect we will see football violence at the cup semi if we play it. Doubt it. There will be no one there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Voxpop said: I suspect we will see football violence at the cup semi if we play it. Doubt if ant fans will be allowed thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, fast_blood said: Nah, they didn't. In fact their manager wanted Kelty promoted I edited it. I didn’t even know, or care, what league they’re in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: referees will be under strict instructions don’t kid yourself mate Fair point, we'll probably have to score 1 more goal than them to get a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, harrywragg said: I doubt we'll be playing at all this season - Champ/L1/L2 are collectively an irrelevance to those chosen "to represent the members". Decision to shut down your training is both unbelievable and completely anti-competitive. I don’t think the majority of clubs at Championship and below have any desire to play this season. They are just glorified social clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I hope to **** hearts Instagram is full of the team training tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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