Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Voxpop said: I suspect we will see football violence at the cup semi if we play it. Look at the bother before the semi v Celtic at Murrayfield, and there wasn’t a fraction of the anger before that one. It’s almost guaranteed there will be serious bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxpop Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, MarkDevriesScores4 said: Doubt it. There will be no one there Yeah prob right... pubs in Edinburgh will be interesting that night though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Voxpop said: I suspect we will see football violence at the cup semi if we play it. Square go between Battler Budge and Ron the Rodent Gordon should start things off nicely. Edited August 13, 2020 by stuart500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, KyleLafferty said: I hope to **** hearts Instagram is full of the team training tomorrow. would love to see them try and punish us for training after doing absolutely **** all to the unwashed and the sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Absolutely disgraceful decision. Yet again we are being penalised for something that is not our fault. Celtic and Aberdeen blatantly break the rules and are not punished but we are consistently getting hammered between our expulsion from the league, the arbitration fine and now this. The league and its management are a shambles and I am now completely sick of Scottish football and its corrupt organisation. Absolutely livid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: By the way, that bit where we asked for time to consider the ramifications of this and they went ahead and published the statement anyway tells me everything I need to know about these people. They are bullies and need sorted. Exactly. Scottish football had a great chance from March to clear the decks and get proper governance in place. Once again the large majority shit the bed because Lawell with the help of his cohorts on the SPFL board, threatened and bullied them into submission. For all her perceived faults and constant criticism from I8hibsish, Ann Budge has proved she has a bigger set of balls than all those imposters put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just as people were starting to calm down a bit, discuss transfers in and out, possible line ups and getting a buzz out of increased FOH contributions along comes this. If this was a book it would be a best seller comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, harrywragg said: I doubt we'll be playing at all this season - Champ/L1/L2 are collectively an irrelevance to those chosen "to represent the members". Decision to shut down your training is both unbelievable and completely anti-competitive. Our clubs have been well and truly shafted mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Jumper said: Just as people were starting to calm down a bit, discuss transfers in and out, possible line ups and getting a buzz out of increased FOH contributions along comes this. If this was a book it would be a best seller comedy. More of a fantasy type that nobody would believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I don’t think the majority of clubs at Championship and below have any desire to play this season. They are just glorified social clubs. Yeah, I am with you there. And we knew it. That’s why we fought so hard to refute the demotion. Edited August 13, 2020 by alfajambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JyTees Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: Oh it’s political alright, just not national governmental politics. That’s the whole point. The politics involved in this decision are those of a football nature, and you and one or two others are doing Hearts a disservice by allowing the issue to be sidetracked. Why are you intent on trying to imply mine, and a few others are doing the club a disservice and actually supportive of the SPFL/SFA? You'd think you had an ulterior motive? Due to the latest reports from various sources it's extremely obvious who's the latest to kick the club and fans while we're down. Definitely the SPFL/SFA, Doncaster, and Petrie, that goes without say, but it's also questionable the SG have had an input. To completely deny the SG's involvement in the decision without all the facts is borne out of a blind allegiance. To turn on fellow fans who don't share that allegiance is poor if you ask me. Not surprising though. My allegiance lies with Hearts. **** anyone and everyone else who sticks the boot in, regardless of political belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: The BBC "story" on this is beyond pathetic: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53770929 The part in the statement that said 'no additional club to start training' is significant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT1984 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Furious but only one thing these guys will sit up and take note of ... FOH pledge doubled tonight. And when the championship is cancelled it’s triple!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5-1Jambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Lawel and Doncaster playing a blinder here. Stop lower league football, lessen the risk of Covid violations which makes sure that Scottish (Celtic) teams don't get kicked out of Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, JyTees said: Why are you intent on trying to imply mine, and a few others are doing the club a disservice and actually supportive of the SPFL/SFA? You'd think you had an ulterior motive? Due to the latest reports from various sources it's extremely obvious who's the latest to kick the club and fans while we're down. Definitely the SPFL/SFA, Doncaster, and Petrie, that goes without say, but it's also questionable the SG have had an input. To completely deny the SG's involvement in the decision without all the facts is borne out of a blind allegiance. To turn on fellow fans who don't share that allegiance is poor if you ask me. Not surprising though. My allegiance lies with Hearts. **** anyone and everyone else who sticks the boot in, regardless of political belief. Good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, graygo said: Nobody in Scottish football can take anybody else in Scottish football to court, well they can but the court will send it back to the SFA arbitration panel. I suspect that the FoH could take the whole lot to court and not need to go to any arbitration. We do not as yet own the club. The SFA/SPFL et all have so far effectively stolen all that is ALL the money we have put into to buy the club. I say we go for them now, we have plenty of money to do it and win without the need for a ground me poxy sponsored walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: You expect it from wee scumbag ****s like him. Hearts supporters though? ****ing hell. So what's his angle. Is he a mad Yoon as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveT1984 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 ... But at least the beauty salons in England can offer more treatments on Sunday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 either ignore and continue to train or relocate somewhere where we can train. do not comply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jamborod said: Chris McLoughlin on the Nine insisting this was down to the Scottish Government, completely ignoring Leitch’s comments earlier. Aye, right. I HATE BBC Scotland presenters!!! HATE!!! Aye weer takin oor medicine!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevmacd Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, JyTees said: Why are you intent on trying to imply mine, and a few others are doing the club a disservice and actually supportive of the SPFL/SFA? You'd think you had an ulterior motive? Due to the latest reports from various sources it's extremely obvious who's the latest to kick the club and fans while we're down. Definitely the SPFL/SFA, Doncaster, and Petrie, that goes without say, but it's also questionable the SG have had an input. To completely deny the SG's involvement in the decision without all the facts is borne out of a blind allegiance. To turn on fellow fans who don't share that allegiance is poor if you ask me. Not surprising though. My allegiance lies with Hearts. **** anyone and everyone else who sticks the boot in, regardless of political belief. Jason Leitch: SPFL and SFA stopped Hearts training - not Scottish Government National clinical director expected Riccarton sessions to go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JyTees said: Why are you intent on trying to imply mine, and a few others are doing the club a disservice and actually supportive of the SPFL/SFA? You'd think you had an ulterior motive? Due to the latest reports from various sources it's extremely obvious who's the latest to kick the club and fans while we're down. Definitely the SPFL/SFA, Doncaster, and Petrie, that goes without say, but it's also questionable the SG have had an input. To completely deny the SG's involvement in the decision without all the facts is borne out of a blind allegiance. To turn on fellow fans who don't share that allegiance is poor if you ask me. Not surprising though. My allegiance lies with Hearts. **** anyone and everyone else who sticks the boot in, regardless of political belief. good post, how exactly does this “sanction” satisfy Scottish Government that the SFA have taken action? Clearly does not, the SG clearly do not want to piss of the Celtic fan base by applying true justice.. If you think this isn’t a consideration you are off your rocker. Edited August 13, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, JyTees said: Why are you intent on trying to imply mine, and a few others are doing the club a disservice and actually supportive of the SPFL/SFA? You'd think you had an ulterior motive? Due to the latest reports from various sources it's extremely obvious who's the latest to kick the club and fans while we're down. Definitely the SPFL/SFA, Doncaster, and Petrie, that goes without say, but it's also questionable the SG have had an input. To completely deny the SG's involvement in the decision without all the facts is borne out of a blind allegiance. To turn on fellow fans who don't share that allegiance is poor if you ask me. Not surprising though. My allegiance lies with Hearts. **** anyone and everyone else who sticks the boot in, regardless of political belief. My ulterior motive is what is best for Bearts. Nothing else. Turning this in to a political point scoring exercise is shite behaviour. I have not denied the Scottish Government’s role in this. On the contrary, I’m trying to point out what their role in this is. That role is not what those lying little cuntweasels Petrie and Doncaster are trying to make out it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I'm hoping Ann and her legal team are right on the phone to Jason Leitch and wee Nicola to find out exactly where we stand legally on this one. If this is purely, as we suspect an SPFL decision and not SG led then we must fight this decision which makes no sense and again unfairly punishes us when we are 100% in the clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JyTees said: So what's his angle. Is he a mad Yoon as well? No, he’s a Celtic supporting wee nyaff who has never had a good word to say about Hearts in all the years I’ve been aware of his presence in Scottish football. He’s a total *****, and much like the majority of BBC Sport Scotland, he has toed the SPFL/SFA line against us throughout this whole sorry episode. Edited August 13, 2020 by Beast Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 7628mm said: I suspect that the FoH could take the whole lot to court and not need to go to any arbitration. We do not as yet own the club. The SFA/SPFL et all have so far effectively stolen all that is ALL the money we have put into to buy the club. I say we go for them now, we have plenty of money to do it and win without the need for a ground me poxy sponsored walk Would it not be better for Hearts to contact Nicola Sturgeon to ask her if she and her government were party to a specific agreement, with the JRG, to tell Hearts to stop their training programme that has been in operation for almost 2 weeks. Hearts have followed protocol better than some clubs who are actually playing competitive games. There is no logic to the SG knowing that the snakes in the JRG intended having another kick at Hearts, and this doubt is backed up by Jason Leitch, who said that no mention of Hearts having to stop training was made, or, in his opinion, required. The liars and cowards of the JRG must be outed by the public truth, and shown to be using the SG as a smokescreen for trying to further damage Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, harrywragg said: I doubt we'll be playing at all this season - Champ/L1/L2 are collectively an irrelevance to those chosen "to represent the members". Decision to shut down your training is both unbelievable and completely anti-competitive. Indeed it is anti-competitive. We are in the scottish cup and should be allowed to keep training while the 3 other clubs also in the cup can train! Total nonsense decision by the SPFL. Just because some Championship clubs think it's unfair on them! They had their chance but chose to go cheap skate instead, bunch of bums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Wilde Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) The SPFL have used Hearts as the sacrificial lamb for other club breaches. Edited August 13, 2020 by Danny Wilde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Good post. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) National clinical director Jason Leitch told BBC Radio Scotland that it had been a league decision after being instructed by the government, which wanted no additional clubs to start training, to "tell us how they are going to get their house in order" through sanctions and education. We are not an additional club though as we have started training with all the correct procedures in place. So why are the SPFL naming us ? I absolutely despise the SPFL Edited August 13, 2020 by 1971fozzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, julienbrellier said: either ignore and continue to train or relocate somewhere where we can train. do not comply France and Holland off the list from Saturday am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Danny Wilde said: @JyTees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: National clinical director Jason Leitch told BBC Radio Scotland that it had been a league decision after being instructed by the government, which wanted no additional clubs to start training, to "tell us how they are going to get their house in order" through sanctions and education. We are not an additional club though as we have started training with all the correct procedures in place. So why are the SPFL naming us ? The answer is in the hearts statement. 2nd last paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It's clear the SG have placed the onus on the JRG, who have decided to penalise us for other people's misdemeanours. Hopefully, we get Sturgeon ON THE RECORD confirming that this decision is an utter nonsense. Over to the media to do their jobs for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, 1971fozzy said: National clinical director Jason Leitch told BBC Radio Scotland that it had been a league decision after being instructed by the government, which wanted no additional clubs to start training, to "tell us how they are going to get their house in order" through sanctions and education. We are not an additional club though as we have started training with all the correct procedures in place. So why are the SPFL naming us ? Read our statement. Other clubs had indicated they wanted to start training. By not allowing them to do so and allowing us to continue, apparently we’d be gaining an unfair advantage. That 3 of the 4 clubs in this years semi finals have over 2 months more competitive action behind them than us, is neither here nor there, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, The Future's Maroon said: I smell court action coming back into play with that statement? Restriction of trade of pay us compensation/staff wages We have followed the rules, but still being punished. I would love this. we should turn up and train tomorrow and see what they do about it? And to reiterate a few other posters comments no one should be setting a foot in another stadium for 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: France and Holland off the list from Saturday am. was more thinking north of england Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, HMFC01 said: The answer is in the hearts statement. 2nd last paragraph. Exactly. It is a clear restraint of trade by the governing body, not the SG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Danny Wilde said: At least Ewan’s asking the right questions. Cos he’s the ****ing only ‘journalist’ in Scotland who’ll do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Are any our league opponents part time? If so we should be soundly punished for being full time. Who do we think we are? Edited August 13, 2020 by alwaysthereinspirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: @JyTees 7 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: The sg does not hate Hearts. Nobody's suggesting the SG hates Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: National clinical director Jason Leitch told BBC Radio Scotland that it had been a league decision after being instructed by the government, which wanted no additional clubs to start training, to "tell us how they are going to get their house in order" through sanctions and education. We are not an additional club though as we have started training with all the correct procedures in place. So why are the SPFL naming us ? I absolutely despise the SPFL It must be Hibs. Petrie and Dempster doing what Ron the con thinks will result in Hibs taking over the “Edinburgh Franchise”, as he probably calls it. Doncaster knows what we think of him, so he will have his slithery hands on this too. He’ll want revenge for the “put in a paper” fiasco. Unfortunately for all of them, we are Hearts and won’t kneel to them. The poisonous atmosphere that will curse Scottish football for years is down to these people and the Celtic cabal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, JyTees said: Nobody's suggesting the SG hates Hearts. No, but a few seem to hate the SG enough to happily suggest they are lying, even if it means aiding and abetting the very people who have ****ed us over again and again, by helping them to try and shift the blame for their actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidelight Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: And Blackwood is a hibby! Speaks for its self I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7628mm Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Would it not be better for Hearts to contact Nicola Sturgeon to ask her if she and her government were party to a specific agreement, with the JRG, to tell Hearts to stop their training programme that has been in operation for almost 2 weeks. Hearts have followed protocol better than some clubs who are actually playing competitive games. There is no logic to the SG knowing that the snakes in the JRG intended having another kick at Hearts, and this doubt is backed up by Jason Leitch, who said that no mention of Hearts having to stop training was made, or, in his opinion, required. The liars and cowards of the JRG must be outed by the public truth, and shown to be using the SG as a smokescreen for trying to further damage Hearts. My point is not really about this particular issue but if the FoH had taken the SPFL to the CoS it would not have gone to arbitration and hence would have been played out in public. I firmly believe that we would have had a better chance of winning and if not get some compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jambo-Fox said: And Blackwood is a hibby! And there will likely be a whole spectrum of different supporters throughout their ranks. Thankfully however, the football team someone supports is not important at government policy level when dealing with a killer disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Wilde Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Turn up and train. Face them down. See them in court if we have to. Again. We'll crowdfund any size of fine we get. Edited August 13, 2020 by Danny Wilde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Roller said: Read our statement. Other clubs had indicated they wanted to start training. By not allowing them to do so and allowing us to continue, apparently we’d be gaining an unfair advantage. That 3 of the 4 clubs in this years semi finals have over 2 months more competitive action behind them than us, is neither here nor there, apparently. 👍 It should be enquired about and straight to argued about. It is in no way fair to have 3 clubs training for a scottish cup and leave 1 out. Especially when our club already had permission to train as per the previous quotes from the SG. It stinks of another majority rule. 1 against the many, although the statement for hearts says "some" clubs and not many clubs. So they can go do 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, 7628mm said: My point is not really about this particular issue but if the FoH had taken the SPFL to the CoS it would not have gone to arbitration and hence would have been played out in public. I firmly believe that we would have had a better chance of winning and if not get some compensation. I see your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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