Pasquale for King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Disco Ball said: I believe Hearts got insurance money when he retired prematurely due to injury and yes I am a fan I remember that, which is weird seeing as we didn't offer him a new contract. Hope we applied for some of the crocks Levein brought in recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Washington was ****ing shite. Amazed we got any money for him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batistuta87 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, buzzbomb said: Last I saw it was £137.5K average and think it had risen. Given the number of players on 2K or less, suggests some players pulling in pretty big salaries. There will be a few outliers like I say. I would guess that Naismith's wage is probably about £8k p/w. Boyce £4-6k; Walker, Smith, Haring, Washington, Damour, Souttar, Halkett, Clare and Uche probably all about £3-4k. Our lowest paid lads like Henderson and Moore etc might be on about £500 p/w. Squad players like Boz, Dikamona, Garuccio and so on will have been on £1-2k p/w... I'd say that probably gives you your average of £137k+ p/a so yeah agree with you here. Edited August 7, 2020 by Batistuta87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Much as I’m not sure on Kingsley (purely down to injury record) is now like us to sign him to annoy that codheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Much as I’m not sure on Kingsley (purely down to injury record) is now like us to sign him to annoy that codheid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I never understood why we signed Washington. Not a bad player but was never what we needed. There must be about 20 players that have left since the season ended and we'll not miss one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: Much as I’m not sure on Kingsley (purely down to injury record) is now like us to sign him to annoy that codheid 😂 codheid is not used enough on here. Should be the go to word to describe those raspers. Edited August 7, 2020 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diadora Van Basten Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, David Black said: I never understood why we signed Washington. Not a bad player but was never what we needed. There must be about 20 players that have left since the season ended and we'll not miss one of them. Typical of the type of striker that Hearts sign, didn’t score goals before joining us, didn’t score goals for us, runs around a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodfella Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Ignore Scott Burns,guy is grade A prick. Agreed, any abuse to him on Twitter is supported by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Roberts was close to signing under Levein before Ipswich threw cash at him. Let's start well clear then. Levein couldn't spot a player in his soup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Wage caps in League One and Two have been approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3OBE Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, David Black said: I never understood why we signed Washington. Not a bad player but was never what we needed. There must be about 20 players that have left since the season ended and we'll not miss one of them. I think Washington gets a hard time for no particular reason. He never was and will never be a 20 goal a season striker. We've got a team full of Jessie's who don't appear to like grafting, Washington ran his baws off. I'd argue we don't have enough players like Washington. We'll be a mess for at least another 3 seasons minimum, stinking actually - there's no quick fix for this train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Wage caps in League One and Two have been approved. Looks like they have been set at 1.5m and 2.5m a year. Cant see there being many players that will now free up for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Looks like they have been set at 1.5m and 2.5m a year. Cant see there being many players that will now free up for us Thats £2.5m per club. Not player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future's Maroon Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Wage caps in League One and Two have been approved. Should be brought in every league, some of the salaries players get are disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Chaps said: 250k for a player that was injured large part of the season, scored 4 goal and has less than 12 months on his contract. £250k for a player that played regularly at English Championship level for 5 years and went for a couple million a few years ago. 1/4 of a million is nothing down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Stendelnator said: Thats £2.5m per club. Not player. That makes a huge difference then no wonder the likes of Sunderland are fuming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Wage caps in League One and Two have been approved. Saw that. I see £1.5M and £2.5M quoted. Surely this is per club not per player. Given we had a £9M budget last season, even with the demotion and financial constraints that brings, this cap should free up a few players, who we might be interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, The Future's Maroon said: Should be brought in every league, some of the salaries players get are disgusting. Agreed. I'm no mathematician but 2.5m a year is about 35k a week for an entire squad. League Two even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Looks like they have been set at 1.5m and 2.5m a year. Cant see there being many players that will now free up for us EACH??? Roughly £30K/week and £50K/week??? What were they before? Who is paying £30K a week in the English 2nd Division??? World's gone mad! Edit: Above suggesting thats for the entire squad. That's better. Probably allowed to pay £Millions on "bonuses" though. Edited August 7, 2020 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Black Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, E3OBE said: I think Washington gets a hard time for no particular reason. He never was and will never be a 20 goal a season striker. We've got a team full of Jessie's who don't appear to like grafting, Washington ran his baws off. I'd argue we don't have enough players like Washington. We'll be a mess for at least another 3 seasons minimum, stinking actually - there's no quick fix for this train wreck. Washington was an intelligent player who made good runs, but he was not what we have required for years, a poacher. It's like saying Periera was good with the ball at his feet but couldn't make a save. Strikers first and foremost have to score. sadly Washington didn't have that. We'll take next season to sort the mess out, no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Neilson was talking about this the other day. It basically means we can now compete with these clubs for players. If our wage bill is more than £2.5m we can then take players from these clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: EACH??? Roughly £30K/week and £50K/week??? What were they before? Who is paying £30K a week in the English 2nd Division??? World's gone mad! Edit: Above suggesting thats for the entire squad. That's better. Probably allowed to pay £Millions on "bonuses" though. Would definitely allow some of the bigger clubs to spend more on transfer fees? Aye and you're right...5k goal bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: EACH??? Roughly £30K/week and £50K/week??? What were they before? Who is paying £30K a week in the English 2nd Division??? World's gone mad! Edit: Above suggesting thats for the entire squad. That's better. Probably allowed to pay £Millions on "bonuses" though. Think its per club. I know Jack Rodwell was on 70k per week in league one for sunderland until he left. If it is per club then you are talking about them having a playing budget less than half ours which is great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyK82 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Ainsley Harriott said: Think its per club. I know Jack Rodwell was on 70k per week in league one for sunderland until he left. If it is per club then you are talking about them having a playing budget less than half ours which is great news. EFL released statement - definitely a ‘squad salary cap’ as opposed to players (individually). Good news for us if we are looking at players in those leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I assume players already with contracts are safe? Assume that's why Clare done a runner fast. What about Washington going to League One, might be less money 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Rick Sanchez said: I assume players already with contracts are safe? Assume that's why Clare done a runner fast. What about Washington going to League One, might be less money 🤷♂️ They have a few days left to sign players before the cap is introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I can imagine the amount of 1st Div players coming to the end of their contract suddenly finding Scotland looking very appealing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: I assume players already with contracts are safe? Assume that's why Clare done a runner fast. What about Washington going to League One, might be less money 🤷♂️ I was thinking this too, but the clubs have voted for it so you would think they would be forward planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: They have a few days left to sign players before the cap is introduced. Good. Tell Charlton is £500K or GTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Good. Tell Charlton is £500K or GTF Any profit on top of what we’ve spent is good enough I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: I can imagine the amount of 1st Div players coming to the end of their contract suddenly finding Scotland looking very appealing now. Yep hopefully the days of missing out on players to league 1 sides are long gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Good. Tell Charlton is £500K or GTF 😂😂 hes never worth that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGoodLaugh Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The salary cap news could be huge for us in the long term. We are in quite a niche position in that we would be improved by bringing in some League One players and will also now have the budget to outspend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said: 😂😂 hes never worth that Yeh I know but they will be keen to get it over the line before the wage cap thing becomes mandatory. Ball's in our court as they have already agreed terms. They are waiting on Hearts to agree the fee. Ram it up them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: Yeh I know but they will be keen to get it over the line before the wage cap thing becomes mandatory. Ball's in our court as they have already agreed terms. They are waiting on Hearts to agree the fee. Ram it up them Oh don’t get me wrong, if can get it great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, AGoodLaugh said: The salary cap news could be huge for us in the long term. We are in quite a niche position in that we would be improved by bringing in some League One players and will also now have the budget to outspend them. Can you imagine if they introduced a wage cap up here? Say £12Million P/A per club. Rangers and Celtic would still pay the highest salaries but at £9Million, we would not be that far behind. Would certainly make the leagues far more competitive! As was said above, the biggest factor would be that transfer fees would start to rocket for the best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Yeh I know but they will be keen to get it over the line before the wage cap thing becomes mandatory. Ball's in our court as they have already agreed terms. They are waiting on Hearts to agree the fee. Ram it up them Too late. Cup bonuses exempt. Should definitely help us. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12044401/league-one-and-league-two-clubs-vote-for-salary-caps Edited August 7, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Too late. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12044401/league-one-and-league-two-clubs-vote-for-salary-caps Bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Bologna waiting on Hickey’s response. https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/hickey-bologna-risposta-attesa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Pans Jambo said: Bugger £2.5m seems quite a low figure when wages, agents fees etc are included. Might be why we’ve not heard anymore on the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: I can imagine the amount of 1st Div players coming to the end of their contract suddenly finding Scotland looking very appealing now. well - we better win the title this year becuase sure as shit Scotland will follow suit and that will make winning promotion far more difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Pasquale for King said: £2.5m seems quite a low figure when wages, agents fees etc are included. Might be why we’ve not heard anymore on the deal. True. If they have a squad of around 28 player you are probably looking at around £2k/week average. We can beat that all day long for the right player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Dubeke Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Goodfella said: EEN now reporting on the Kingsley interest, plenty of interest in him from other clubs too. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-keen-signing-out-contract-scotland-international-defender-2935868 Some injury record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: well - we better win the title this year becuase sure as shit Scotland will follow suit and that will make winning promotion far more difficult We will win it. Not saying we will "skoosh" it, but we will secure promotion for next season. Edit: I want Scotland to follow suit but the bigot brothers will want to make it at least £18M per annum which means its business as usual for everyone else! I think THEY need to come down closer to Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibs level of annual salaries. Would benefit Scottish Football as it will make it more competitive. Think I should start a thread on this topic and keep this one for Hearts transfer gossip! Edited August 7, 2020 by Pans Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Hope not. Incredibly injury prone. You could be right there. Hopefully a trial first and a thorough medical if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kenneth Dubeke said: Some injury record Injury prone? Welcome to Tynecastle Stephen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: You could be right there. Hopefully a trial first and a thorough medical if needed. Thorough? How can we sneak him in under a coat with a thorough medical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 hours ago, rudi must stay said: I'm hearing Jackson Irvine has been linked that's more like it. not many injury's, good value, center mid. Good replacement for everyone bar big pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Yeah Jackson Irvine would be a very sensible signing indeed 🤞🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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