David McCaig Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Boring boring Neilson for clarity, I'm going to recap the goal-shy last few games of his first spell... In reverse order: Hearts 2-0 Rangers (h) Hearts 3-0 Motherwell (h) Hearts 3-3 Hamilton (a) Hearts 2-2 St Johnstone (h) Hearts 3-3 Inverness (a) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said: Interesting side note, for all those using MK Dons as a reference point. His win ration was 37.9% The only hearts manager (other than Robbie) to beat that since administration is Craig Levein with 39.62% He has been are only good manager since Sergio. I'm your fact checking cuz. The win percentage thing is a bit of a red herring. There's not many Hearts managers who have managed in the Championship or a 'weakened' Premiership to compare him against. Equally his win percentage at MK Dons is really only comparable against other managers managing MK in League one. I don't know what win % they'd expect but I do know he wasn't liked by their fans very much. The only one really relevant is his win percentage in his final half season with us Which, thankfully, I imagine was pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Jambo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, Zen Jambo said: Interesting side note, for all those using MK Dons as a reference point. His win ration was 37.9% The only hearts manager (other than Robbie) to beat that since administration is Craig Levein with 39.62% He has been are only good manager since Sergio. I'm your fact checking cuz. Quite right, I am with you on that. I am just relaying the stats....and the bad grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Taffin said: The win percentage thing is a bit of a red herring. There's not many Hearts managers who have managed in the Championship or a 'weakened' Premiership to compare him against. Equally his win percentage at MK Dons is really only comparable against other managers managing MK in League one. I don't know what win % they'd expect but I do know he wasn't liked by their fans very much. The only one really relevant is his win percentage in his final half season with us Which, thankfully, I imagine was pretty good too. You’re right about percentages. That would make George Burley our greatest manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Can someone who’s good with technology/software recreate Neilson’s cup final tackle, but with a Dundee Utd badge in on goal, and the goal replaced with a Premiership logo? Willing to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 This imposter seems pleased. Hopefully Robbie punts him on sharpish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, Sooperstar said: This imposter seems pleased. Hopefully Robbie punts him on sharpish. I can't say I'm hugely impressed with that tbh. Daniel leaving is far from a blessing. Wish that hard work would be put into learning to control a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, OTT said: I can't say I'm hugely impressed with that tbh. Daniel leaving is far from a blessing. Wish that hard work would be put into learning to control a ball. It’s a blessing for him, the pound shop Joelinton 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 If Robbie continues with the one upfront the correct answer is Boyce. Then Washington. Then whoever replaces Washington. Then Wighton. Would be happy to see him leave, even happier if it's to someone else in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 The hipster has been keeping himself looking good one for Scotty Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: If Robbie continues with the one upfront the correct answer is Boyce. Then Washington. Then whoever replaces Washington. Then Wighton. Would be happy to see him leave, even happier if it's to someone else in Scotland. Hopefully we can get rid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 43 minutes ago, David McCaig said: Boring boring Neilson for clarity, I'm going to recap the goal-shy last few games of his first spell... In reverse order: Hearts 2-0 Rangers (h) Hearts 3-0 Motherwell (h) Hearts 3-3 Hamilton (a) Hearts 2-2 St Johnstone (h) Hearts 3-3 Inverness (a) 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Since Neilson left, we have consistently had a lack of width and drive. We won so many penalties in those first two seasons because you had King and Nicholson running at people and drawing fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, maroonedinoz said: The SPFL called the league season over. The SFA who run the Cup are keen for the semis and final to be played, as I understand it. They seem to think the cup can re-start in August when the league does but if we're in the Championship we're not allowed to train so don't see how they can expect us to play a semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Finlay James said: The same Stubbs that he finished 20+ ahead of that season? Who had had their arse handed to them? Scottish cup 👍, he was manager for 2 and a half years and beat hibs once, we fluked it with the ozturk screamer as well. As far as managers go Robbie is far less proven than Craig Levein. and I'm not levein's biggest fan 😂👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Drifter Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Personally I'm delighted Robbie's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black stump Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Gobsmacked, didn't see that coming. Not sure if I am pleased or not, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, OTT said: I can't say I'm hugely impressed with that tbh. Daniel leaving is far from a blessing. Wish that hard work would be put into learning to control a ball. With any manager, there's always a group of players who don't like him - those who get emptied and don't play. So Neilson coming in is a blessing for Ikpeazu. He'll get a second chance. The squad as a whole gets a fresh start. Not a big fan of Uche but Neilson's first job is to get the best out of the players we have contracted for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: With any manager, there's always a group of players who don't like him - those who get emptied and don't play. So Neilson coming in is a blessing for Ikpeazu. He'll get a second chance. The squad as a whole gets a fresh start. Not a big fan of Uche but Neilson's first job is to get the best out of the players we have contracted for next season. I wouldnt bank on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Looking at his Dundee United results, only 1 win in there last 9 games. Surprised at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: This imposter seems pleased. Hopefully Robbie punts him on sharpish. Hope he still leaves. Can’t really be arsed with someone who’ll put 100% effort in one week and zero the next. Hope he finds somewhere else soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I think a lot of people were not sure of Stendel for next season in the championship What we required is someone with the following. 1) An understanding of scottish football 2) Good Knowledge at that level 3) Someone who could hit the ground running I believe Robbie fits above three criteria so I am happy and actually in reality his last spell was decent and he has a couple of things to put to bead this time around. Those are a cup run and tucking away the hobos more often. These could be remedied quite quickly with dishing out another hampden humilation to the dafties from Leith in the SC semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) Though I'd have liked to have seen what Stendel could have done he would have been a risk, especially if we are in the Championship. I wanted someone who knew the Scottish game and the teams we will be competing with next season (which I expect will be in the Championship). No-one meets that spec better than Robbie. Edited June 22, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-fletch Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Since Neilson left, we have consistently had a lack of width and drive. We won so many penalties in those first two seasons because you had King and Nicholson running at people and drawing fouls. Hopefully we will similar again this season with Moore, Henderson and McDonald! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Feeling very disappointed that this is who they chose. Absolutely awful signings, pathetic results v the vermin and completely shite away performances were frequent under Neilson. Struggling to find much positivity in this decision. I thought it was April Fools when i first saw it. Got the feeling that this is not going to end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, Hearts007 said: I wouldnt bank on that Maybe, but I don't see Neilson coming in and emptying half the squad. He will be more keen to add to it than to empty players, he already said he thinks we have a good squad. He is a pragmatic guy, will be focused on making the best of what he has got to start with. Uche is what he is, he's plan B. IMO, all 4 midfield positions are where the major urgent surgery is required. RM, 2x CM, LM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 55 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: This imposter seems pleased. Hopefully Robbie punts him on sharpish. Same as any manager who comes in, I will give players a chance under them. You might find Neilson finds a way that unlocks his ability. He did not fit Stendels style of play, he might suit Robbie's. See the change Clare made under Stendel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, David McCaig said: Boring boring Neilson for clarity, I'm going to recap the goal-shy last few games of his first spell... In reverse order: Hearts 2-0 Rangers (h) Hearts 3-0 Motherwell (h) Hearts 3-3 Hamilton (a) Hearts 2-2 St Johnstone (h) Hearts 3-3 Inverness (a) Did we not beat Motherwell 6-1 as well? EDIT: sorry misread your post Edited June 22, 2020 by Mac80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, wavydavy said: That may be what he claimed in public but I heard differently from someone who knows him well. No names for obvious reasons however it is an ex Hearts player. I did too. From someone who does have some contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, highlandjambo3 said: Take it Robbie will be bringing in his own staff? Anyone itk? Andy Kirk is still there, see no need to get rid of him as he appears to have done well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: This imposter seems pleased. Hopefully Robbie punts him on sharpish. I reckon if you put Uche into Dundee UTD teams, they wouldn't have been so successful due to Uches' decision making , proper charlie, selfish, abysmal gameplay. Apart from that he will try to make a convincing go at fooling another manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) BBC Podcast https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08hp0r1 Craig Levein said Robbie told him in November he wanted to come back. And that he left too soon. Edited June 22, 2020 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Looks to me like Ann sought and took CL's advice on the appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, karipidis said: Looking at his Dundee United results, only 1 win in there last 9 games. Surprised at that. League was won, foot of the peddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean counter Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Welcome back Robbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: Looks to me like Ann sought and took CL's advice on the appointment. Or, alternatively, she appointed Neilson due to the results he delivered during her first 3 seasons at the helm of HMFC. Even if she spoke to Levein, I don't think she would need much advice or convincing, she always had a high opinion of Neilson. To me this feels a lot more like the first ever (and possibly only ever) 100% Budge appointment, she's gone with someone she already knows and trusts. I suspect she's probably wanted him back since he left MK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Or, alternatively, she appointed Neilson due to the results he delivered during her first 3 seasons at the helm of HMFC. Even if she spoke to Levein, I don't think she would need much advice or convincing, she always had a high opinion of Neilson. To me this feels a lot more like the first ever (and possibly only ever) 100% Budge appointment, she's gone with someone she already knows and trusts. I suspect she's probably wanted him back since he left MK. Wanted to appoint RN when CL was sacked but Robbie wanted to stay with Utd to win Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Robbies win percentage for his top flight seasons was 47.7% We also scored 110 goals and conceded 75 in his 65 matches. The last two seasons (18/19 & 19/20 - 91 games) we scored 121 and conceded 114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deans Jambo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 16 hours ago, Marty Byrde said: Neilson does get results, his record shows that. However it's not a crime to say the football he plays is shite to watch. That appears to have been the case at MK Dons and reading online now that has recently been the case at Dundee United. Dull perfunctory football appears to be our lot in Scottish Football. Why fight it? I genuinely never felt that bored during Neilsons previous spell. Ive spent countless hours since thinking why the **** did I bother though. If turning over the sh*te in the league (as he done previously) without breaking sweat is dull then I'll take it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairdy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Really don't know how I feel about this appointment. But he'll get my support like all our managers in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) Just seen a video on Facebook of a big Neilson Out banner outside Tynie....surely not? Edited June 22, 2020 by Rick Sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Pathetic, not real fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Hibs fans imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Watched Dundee Utd a few times last season on telly. Didn’t think they were a bad watch. Reasonably attack minded. Solid at the back. Bit of width. Bit of pace. Lost the plot a wee bit when the league was wrapped up but hey ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Just seen a video on Facebook of a big Neilson Out banner outside Tynie....surely not? That's got to be Hibs. None of our fans are as stupid as that surely? Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, JimmyCant said: Watched Dundee Utd a few times last season on telly. Didn’t think they were a bad watch. Reasonably attack minded. Solid at the back. Bit of width. Bit of pace. Lost the plot a wee bit when the league was wrapped up but hey ho. If you listen to any of their fans they were shite and they wanted Neilson gone. Even though the were romping the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: Just seen a video on Facebook of a big Neilson Out banner outside Tynie....surely not? When times are tough and you can't afford a plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alicante jambo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Bairns out on their bikes got nowt else to do. Probably cycled fi leith too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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