Mikey1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: The biggest challenge to your idea is players contracts and the summer transfer window. Virtually impossible to go beyond end June, maybe May for some players. Extending contracts isn't so hard. Where are players going to go at the end of May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScandinavianJambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The players union is against playing behind closed doors. The season looks likely to end or pause next week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Extending contracts isn't so hard. Where are players going to go at the end of May? Depends how long they are giving them? a month extension and possibly risk injury and missing out on another contract elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Extending contracts isn't so hard. Where are players going to go at the end of May? Dubai? Footballers seem to like holidays there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: You should have no bother managing folk virtually. You come across here as a well rounded, balanced and positive individual who in no way gets involved in petty arguments. Thankfully I'd never employ someone like you so we're all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, 1874robbo said: Depends how long they are giving them? a month extension and possibly risk injury and missing out on another contract elsewhere. Not that it's important in the grand scheme of things i woul imagine quite a few players would exercise their right to walk away at the end of their contract before the season finishes. You couldn't force an extension. Would that player not then become a free agent who could play for another club in June? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Five to One said: No idea what your source is. I’m going by NHS Lothian who I would hope have correct information to hand. NHS Lothian have the correct information on the Italy trend? You stated that Italy had peaked, but evidently it has not yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, gjcc said: Dubai? Footballers seem to like holidays there. 😂 They may be going nowhere this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said: 😂 They may be going nowhere this year Well, definitely not Europe either way. 🤧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I was at the football last night with an agent and he has been up since Wednesday morning. He’s has planned meetings with three clubs up here about his players as 2 of the 3 players contracts end the first week in June. Any postponement would mean they’d either need a rolling contract/fixed term contract till the games are caught up or they are free to leave. People more ITK than me will be able to work out how many of our current squad would be leaving in June when their contracts expire. Gonna be a massive head ache for the SPFL to manage. Europe looks very likely to be postponed for “several” weeks. The EPL is about to go into lock down as well. We will get the old firm/weekend fixtures out the way then go into lock down I’d imagine. No idea how we manage the games after that. Play Saturday/Wednesday every week till we end the season behind closed doors? Hearts winning the Scottish cup and avoiding relegation behind closed doors would be surreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Its difficult. But finishing the league should be possible by September at the latest and probably earlier. You have opportunities to cancel some Cup games, stop the winter break etc ro catch. Transfer windows and contracts can be extended. Euro 2020 being postponed offers opportunities. Difficult but possible. Evidence of the SPFL or SFA ever going down the difficult route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Extending contracts isn't so hard. Where are players going to go at the end of May? A contract is a legal agreement. A club or football association can’t simply extend it if they feel like it. What happens if a player says ‘No thanks. I don’t want to extend.’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five to One Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: NHS Lothian have the correct information on the Italy trend? You stated that Italy had peaked, but evidently it has not yet The trend peaks and then lasts 2- 3 months. That clear enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Smith's right boot said: You should have no bother managing folk virtually. You come across here as a well rounded, balanced and positive individual who in no way gets involved in petty arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint Jambo said: Either null and void or taking this as the final position are likely to end in legal action. Given where we are in the season, it seems most sensible to me to postpone competitions and restart them whenever it is possible. If necessary, changes could be agreed to 2020-21 competitions to shorten that season to fit in the end of this season. For example reducing the number of games played in leagues, cancelling cup competitions for a season, or making European competitions straight knock out rather than group based. Fairer to agree changes to a season that hasn't yet started than make arbitrary changes to this season. That way all clubs know the situation before competitions start. To take Scotland as an example, you could drop the 2020-21 League Cup and Challenge Cup easily enough. In the Premier League you could have two rounds of fixtures pre-split and two rounds post-split, reducing the season from 38 to 32 games. The biggest challenge would be following completion of the current season, you probably would still need a break of maybe a month between the two 'seasons' to allow teams to buy/sell players allowing those promoted/ relegated to adjust. I see UEFA are already considering postponing the Euros by a year. Which potentially allows for this season to be finished in say June/ July/ August before a break in September then a truncated 2020-21 season. Obviously this would depend on when it is possible to restart the current season, but you would adjust the number of games that season to fit. Decent post, but there will be increased challenges if the season extends beyond the end of June. Players contracts / loans are generally linked to that time, so is sporting integrity impacted if teams lose players at the end of June Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chong Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Pans Jambo said: This is what you dont read/hear in the news. Thanks for sharing and I hope you and your Mrs gets sorted soon. As an aside, I think the media are creaming themselves over Covid-19. Beside themselves when they announce how many are infected or how many have been unfortunate to perish because of this virus. How about changing the narrative slightly to let folk know how many have actually kicked Coronavirus's ass? I heard around 60,000 Chinese have been released from hospital and allowed to go home after contracting and then beating the virus. I also heard hat the last Coronavirus hospital in China is now closed as they now have a handle on it and less folk are now contracting it. I had to dig for that good news story, wasn't in the ITN bulletin. Wonder why? Fear porn bro. Now, consume consume consume....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, S Form said: A contract is a legal agreement. A club or football association can’t simply extend it if they feel like it. What happens if a player says ‘No thanks. I don’t want to extend.’? Everyone in football world wide is in this situation. Fair enough. Maybe players doing that will be ending their careers. Clubs will just carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcjambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Everyone in football world wide is in this situation. Fair enough. Maybe players doing that will be ending their careers. Clubs will just carry on. If players do that, it will likely be the ones wanted by other clubs though, good players will always be in demand so very unlikely to be a career limiting decision in reality. Agree Clubs will carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Five to One said: The trend peaks and then lasts 2- 3 months. That clear enough? Its clear enough that you don't get it. Each areas epidemiology differs for a number of reasons, including how the governments deal with it You claimed that Italy had peaked, with 2,651 new cases there yesterday, higher than any other day of recording, they have yet to reach their peak and are struggling to manage those infected. Let's jsut leave it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Decent post, but there will be increased challenges if the season extends beyond the end of June. Players contracts / loans are generally linked to that time, so is sporting integrity impacted if teams lose players at the end of June In Scotland contracts end 31 May. Its 30 June in England. Generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: In Scotland contracts end 31 May. Its 30 June in England. Generally. Fair enough, the point stands then and just constraints the opportunity to get the season resolved before individual contracts are impacted and potentially affect teams squads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Champions League postponed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 For Those interested, here's the global active case graph And the UK one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 All Uefa competitions, including Champions League and Europa League matches due to be played on 17 and 18 March, have been postponed because of the coronavirus outbreak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Form Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Everyone in football world wide is in this situation. Fair enough. Maybe players doing that will be ending their careers. Clubs will just carry on. I think the idea of moving things into the summer/next season is highly problematic for all sorts of reasons. The cleanest solution, though not ideal, would be to stop where we are and void the season. That would suit us and be a disaster for the likes of Dundee United. Extending the size of the league and allowing them to come up alongside the second placed team in the Championship might ease that. The truth is there are no easy answers to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Null and void the season Promote the 4 teams from Div1 to make 16 teams which makes it fair on everyone Split after 30 Games. Top 6 play each other twice after split. Bottom 10 only once (40 games and 39 games). End of season, bottom 4 go down and leagues go back to way they are now from 21/22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Because the warmer weather slows the virus down. The GP effectively was driven by the teams. It wasn't the government who drove the decision but now all wider gatherings are cancelled. The unsaid reason Australia kept the containment phase like this is because of the weather and taking that opportunity before the flu season kicks in in a couple of months time. My work has proactively recommended working from home now as a business continuity measure, which is fine as all of our tech and resources are cloud based. The challenge is on managing people virtually. Get drunk , mash keys and see where ya end up👍🏻 😝 rangers game next week is cancelled now too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Ligue 1 and 2 Champions league Europa league All now suspended How unbelievable that we cant trust Rangers and Celtic fans not to be bawbags so are allowing this weekends games to go ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjambo1993 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Null and void the season Promote the 4 teams from Div1 to make 16 teams which makes it fair on everyone Split after 30 Games. Top 6 play each other twice after split. Bottom 10 only once (40 games and 39 games). End of season, bottom 4 go down and leagues go back to way they are now from 21/22 Pars, Arbroath and Morton all within 4pts of the playoffs. What about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Now reporting that Premier League and EFL games postponed until 4th April and then reviewed. Surely Scotland must follow suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, David Bennett said: Now reporting that Premier League and EFL games postponed until 4th April and then reviewed. Surely Scotland must follow suit? Well you would think...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 New signing to save our season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, Bozi said: Ligue 1 and 2 Champions league Europa league All now suspended How unbelievable that we cant trust Rangers and Celtic fans not to be bawbags so are allowing this weekends games to go ahead It’s not unbelievable. It’s depressingly familiar. There is one event that stretches front line services on a regular basis, which makes the “ Monday no gatherings “ statement ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Not that hard. Giving players a break now would help. I think you’re being very naive if you think extending into next season is doable. Contract and precontract issues alone don’t bare thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, David Bennett said: Now reporting that Premier League and EFL games postponed until 4th April and then reviewed. Surely Scotland must follow suit? Who’s reporting that ? Iv got Sky Sports News on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 All very grim but entirely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 My manager made me read official guidance on coronavirus. I told him following Hearts will kill me before that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Will the SFA follow now, today? Coronavirus: English Football League fixtures to be suspended until 4 April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 No point looking at the total case numbers in the UK now., it is a pointless statistic as we are pretty much only testing people in hospital now. Will be thousands with the virus in scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dazo said: I think you’re being very naive if you think extending into next season is doable. Contract and precontract issues alone don’t bare thinking about. In my work problems like this are solvable. It helps too its world wide. There will be a solution found re contracts. Better that than face football shut down by legal action from clubs losing out on titles, promotion etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hueyview Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Boof said: New signing to save our season... Told he has an infectious sense of humour in the dressing room, and avoids the showers after games..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 the direction of travel is null and void for all leagues and seasons. It is the most sensible option and not just because if benefits us. If you suspend until summer, it will just get pushed back and pushed back and they know this. All players unions are reportedly against playing behind closed doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienbrellier Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Premier League now suspended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, GorgieRules22 said: Who’s reporting that ? Iv got Sky Sports News on BBC online. Looks like it's confirmed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH23-Jambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 BREAKINGEFL suspends football matches until 3 April Matches in the Championship, League One and League Two have been called off until 3 April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dazo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: In my work problems like this are solvable. It helps too its world wide. There will be a solution found re contracts. Better that than face football shut down by legal action from clubs losing out on titles, promotion etc.. Yes contractual problems can be solved but on this scale ? Obviously it depends on how long football is suspended for but it’s laughable to think it can be extended into next season. Also No offence mate but I doubt your work has dealt with anything like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH23-Jambo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 BBC: Premier League postponed until 3 April All Premier League matches have been postponed until 3 April at the earliest because of the coronavirus. That means all professional football in England is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, EH22-Jambo said: BBC: Premier League postponed until 3 April All Premier League matches have been postponed until 3 April at the earliest because of the coronavirus. That means all professional football in England is off. Big decision. We surely will follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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