Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Jeff said: Our figures are above many countries in Europe who are in the process of locking down. We are accepting flights from locked down areas. I don't need credentials to know something isn't right The UK is acting in the same fashion as many countries. Here, almost 90% of cases that have been identified have involved people who travelled recently from overseas. However, there is no decision yet to ban travel to and from Australia and nor should there be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I hope naismith gets the coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Juventus defender Rugani has tested positive for Covid-19. Confirmed via the club twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Closed doors for us will be a blessing. We can get relegated in peace now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 ****ing bring it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Italian Lambretta said: I hope naismith gets the coronavirus No chance of him passing it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabgee Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I fecking hope not. Hopefully they’ll just relegate us and put us out our misery. We can then get on with emptying the shower of shit we call a squad and start rebuilding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelsarmy Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I can genuinely see us surviving the drop through the season being ended early and declared void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, Poseidon said: Closed doors for us will be a blessing. We can get relegated in peace now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Has international travel been banned to the UK? No. So why shouldn't Leverkusen or Atletico fans travel? Oh for goodness sake Geoff. We all know international travel to the UK hasn’t been banned In that case, the fans have every right to travel My beef is with our authorities who could have banned flights. Leverkusen can’t host the return game on their own patch unless it’s behind closed doors but we can allow thousands to come here. We’ve @@@@ed up with this big style. All IMO of course. The fact that Boris is now scrambling around with talk of school closures etc and sporting events being cancelled, only a few days after is being told that such actions were not required shows you what a cluster @@@@ this is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: There is one country in lockdown in Europe. One. Here, travel is only banned to Korea, Iran, China and now Italy. Demand for air travel has already fallen significantly in any case. Denmark just closed schools and universities. Only essential public sector employees being expected to report to work Can’t see it being reported here but my Danish buddy messaged me about 2 hours ago Edited March 11, 2020 by Dagger Is Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Poseidon said: Closed doors for us will be a blessing. We can get relegated in peace now Covid-19 is about the only thing that can save us from the drop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Oh for goodness sake Geoff. We all know international travel to the UK hasn’t been banned In that case, the fans have every right to travel My beef is with our authorities who could have banned flights. Leverkusen can’t host the return game on their own patch unless it’s behind closed doors but we can allow thousands to come here. We’ve @@@@ed up with this big style. All IMO of course. The fact that Boris is now scrambling around with talk of school closures etc and sporting events being cancelled, only a few days after is being told that such actions were not required shows you what a cluster @@@@ this is It's hardly a clusterfeck. The UK is in line with most countries. Now, in forthcoming days crowds might be stopped from congregating but everything has a risk profile. I'm off to the Grand Prix here on Sunday. Will it increase my chances of catching it? No more than commuting on the train each day. That is the current reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Denmark just closed schools and universities. Only essential public sector employees being expected to report to work Can’t see it being reported here but my Danish buddy messaged me about 2 hours ago That isn't lockdown. Are there travel restrictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: It's hardly a clusterfeck. The UK is in line with most countries. Now, in forthcoming days crowds might be stopped from congregating but everything has a risk profile. I'm off to the Grand Prix here on Sunday. Will it increase my chances of catching it? No more than commuting on the train each day. That is the current reality. Well we’ll need to agree to disagree. IMO it’s a CF. WHO have said they’re disappointed with the response of some countries. This all smacks of a lack of working together with countries doing their own thing and in some cases not very effectively. Shutting the stable food IMO. I might not have the medical qualifications that others do but that should never stop challenging and questioning, especially when it comes to the Government. Why have other countries banned large gatherings and sporting events? Why have gigs been cancelled? Enjoy the GP if its on Geoff and stay safe. Edited March 12, 2020 by Dagger Is Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: That isn't lockdown. Are there travel restrictions? Depends on your definition of lockdown I guess Geoff. It’s not reached the same stage as Italy for sure and as far as I know, travel restrictions haven’t yet been introduced. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/03/11/denmark-second-european-country-impose-lockdown-coronavirus-12384677/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: It's hardly a clusterfeck. The UK is in line with most countries. Now, in forthcoming days crowds might be stopped from congregating but everything has a risk profile. I'm off to the Grand Prix here on Sunday. Will it increase my chances of catching it? No more than commuting on the train each day. That is the current reality. Maybe not. The Australian Grand Prix is under threat with 3 members of teams having testEd positive. The Chinese race was already postponed (even though they are reporting that they are on top of the disease their. The Bahrain Grand Prix is to go ahead without supporters. You may find by Sunday, that the circumstances have changed for the Australian Grand Prix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: Depends on your definition of lockdown I guess Geoff. It’s not reached the same stage as Italy for sure and as far as I know, travel restrictions haven’t yet been introduced. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/03/11/denmark-second-european-country-impose-lockdown-coronavirus-12384677/amp/ For context, my wife works in healthcare as a nurse manager and has had umpteen briefings from the infectious disease people at her work. Her biggest concern is school closure causing staff issues, not sickness, because childcare becomes a nightmare. Indeed, the unsaid news here is that we actually need this to spread amongst the population, albeit at a rate slow enough not to overwhelm health services, because it is our own bodies that will eliminate it. 100,000 people dying from this across the planet sounds horrific but with the world heading to 8 billion, it is actually not that significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Maybe not. The Australian Grand Prix is under threat with 3 members of teams having testEd positive. The Chinese race was already postponed (even though they are reporting that they are on top of the disease their. The Bahrain Grand Prix is to go ahead without supporters. You may find by Sunday, that the circumstances have changed for the Australian Grand Prix The 3 mechanics are self-isolating. There is no threat to the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said: The 3 mechanics are self-isolating. There is no threat to the race. Don’t be naive, there’s more at risk than just the mechanics. who are the main tyre suppliers and where is their headquarters based? Pirelli, Milan. where are Ferrari and Alpha Tauri based? Also Northern Italy Australia has stopped flights from Italy, plus there logistics of alternative flights having to come through Singapore / the Middle East. WHO have just rebranded COVID-19 as a pandemic, so its extremely naive to think there is no threat to the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisR5-1 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Same will happen in Scotland. Just cancel the season 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: Don’t be naive, there’s more at risk than just the mechanics. who are the main tyre suppliers and where is their headquarters based? Pirelli, Milan. where are Ferrari and Alpha Tauri based? Also Northern Italy Australia has stopped flights from Italy, plus there logistics of alternative flights having to come through Singapore / the Middle East. WHO have just rebranded COVID-19 as a pandemic, so its extremely naive to think there is no threat to the race. The race is on. You can wet your pants all you like but I'll have my deckchairs on the golf course at Turn 11 as usual. PS The teams and equipment arrived last week. The drivers are the last to arrive and unless Monaco goes into lockdown, they are fine. Where Ferrari travel on to after Melbourne is more interesting. Edited March 12, 2020 by Geoff Kilpatrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Save our season, COVID-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, jonesy said: Can they keep our players out of the stadium, too? No. They’d class that as an unfair sporting advantage. We’d have a better chance of winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 https://apple.news/AMbejPLJ6Tvi3nPfRhjWtTQ NBA suspends league due to virus. Could same happen in football especially due to lost revenue? Another question: years ago the team that finished bottom in the league didn’t get relegated. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maple Leaf Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The NBA has just suspended all games until further notice. This is an enormous decision which has far greater ramifications than anything the SFA could decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjambo21 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ93 said: https://apple.news/AMbejPLJ6Tvi3nPfRhjWtTQ NBA suspends league due to virus. Could same happen in football especially due to lost revenue? Another question: years ago the team that finished bottom in the league didn’t get relegated. Why? Aberdeen should have been relegated years ago but Falkirk did not have a 10,000 seat stadium so they scrapped relegation that season. Bad that it has come to us hoping the coronavirus saves us from the drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 hours ago, jonesy said: Can they keep our players out of the stadium, too? 😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Would one of our players take one for the team and catch the bloody thing? Probably all it would take to cancel the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveSeenTheLight Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: The race is on. You can wet your pants all you like but I'll have my deckchairs on the golf course at Turn 11 as usual. PS The teams and equipment arrived last week. The drivers are the last to arrive and unless Monaco goes into lockdown, they are fine. Where Ferrari travel on to after Melbourne is more interesting. lol, nobodies wetting their pants. I only mentioned that the event may be affected and things could change there by Sunday. I also see that the opposition party has called for Quote Coronavirus Australia: Labor calls for mass events to be cancelled and schools closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: For context, my wife works in healthcare as a nurse manager and has had umpteen briefings from the infectious disease people at her work. Her biggest concern is school closure causing staff issues, not sickness, because childcare becomes a nightmare. Indeed, the unsaid news here is that we actually need this to spread amongst the population, albeit at a rate slow enough not to overwhelm health services, because it is our own bodies that will eliminate it. 100,000 people dying from this across the planet sounds horrific but with the world heading to 8 billion, it is actually not that significant. I hear what you say Geoff and I can see the sense in things like concerns around staffing on the front line and immune systems. My problem as I’ve said all along, is that action hasn’t been taken quickly enough IMO. The US have taken that massive step overnight but you’d have to wonder why we haven’t yet, and why they hadn’t done earlier. We should all be together on this, although I appreciate the challenges that brings. WHO must be pulling their hair out when they see the inconsistencies across the globe Going back to the pint of the thread though, if we’ve as much chance of catching it on trains etc as attending say the GP, why are countries around the globe banning sporting events right, left and centre? Our own CMO said no advantage in canning these types of gatherings but a few days later, here we are. We’ve watched while the rest of the world has Some of our decisions and those of others are quite frankly, in my unlearned mind, bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: lol, nobodies wetting their pants. I only mentioned that the event may be affected and things could change there by Sunday. I also see that the opposition party has called for Typical bloody lefties. Putting people’s well being first. How dare they? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 The UK appears to be taking it far less seriously than most nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: The UK appears to be taking it far less seriously than most nations. The UK has the advantage of being on two islands with only one land border so points of entry are known and generally controlled. The open borders in mainland Europe don't help right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, IveSeenTheLight said: lol, nobodies wetting their pants. I only mentioned that the event may be affected and things could change there by Sunday. I also see that the opposition party has called for Has Albo done that? Haven't seen the news yet. I think it is precautionary like most things but as containment moves to delay things change anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Had a pop up that Italian news reports saying EPL moving towards closed door games very soon. NBA game postponed at short notice as a player reported to be positive. Edit - have I just heard NBA has shut down? Edited March 12, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gentleman Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said: Would one of our players take one for the team and catch the bloody thing? Probably all it would take to cancel the whole season. Don't be silly Doug. None of them are brave enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Had a pop up that Italian news reports saying EPL moving towards closed door games very soon. NBA game postponed at short notice as a player reported to be positive. Edit - have I just heard NBA has shut down? Suspended until further notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R08813 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 That’s us moving in to the delay phase, meaning that major sporting events will be cancelled. Surely football is played for the fans and if there aren’t any there then the season should be binned... I know I’m clutching at straws a bit here, but what’s actually the point in seeing this season out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 EPL may play their remaining games behind closed doors but can’t see SPFL doing that. The loss of revenue even at this late stage in the season will be devastating for most clubs and without someone coming to the rescue financially their option option to mitigate will be to drastically reduce costs. That means no training, no matchday expenses, staff taking unpaid leave or holidays, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ93 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 In the prem they can’t surely finish it however many games early and then relegate is for being 4 points adrift? this is prime time to expand the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelsarmy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, R08813 said: That’s us moving in to the delay phase, meaning that major sporting events will be cancelled. Surely football is played for the fans and if there aren’t any there then the season should be binned... I know I’m clutching at straws a bit here, but what’s actually the point in seeing this season out? Would be surprised if it isn't cancelled. The question then is what happens. How can you relegate a team when there should still be a chunk of games to play. Where's the sporting integrity in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Hard to care about the result last night when the season will end up being null and void. No idea how they're going to make this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelsarmy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, JJ93 said: In the prem they can’t surely finish it however many games early and then relegate is for being 4 points adrift? this is prime time to expand the league. Agree with your first para. But how does expanding the league help, what about the teams in the Championship who miss out on promotion to the new Premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScandinavianJambo Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It will not be the SPFLs decision when to stop, that's down to the government. SPFL will decide if it is played behind closed doors with streaming possibility or if they cancell the season. As much as I want to cancell this season (and suppress it from my memory altogether) is only going to happen of large swats of players get sick...I love Hearts but not so much that I wish the pandemic to get worse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Playing the game in Paris last night behind 'closed doors' kept everyone safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I don't think we should go down or stay up due to the coronavirus. Very interested to see what a governing body that struggle to perform the most straightforward of tasks does in a really difficult situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: The UK has the advantage of being on two islands with only one land border so points of entry are known and generally controlled. The open borders in mainland Europe don't help right now. We’re an island you’re right. Points of entry, generally controlled? No they’re not really. We’ve had flights landing from Northern Italy right up until recently. The football we’ve already discussed. Social media pictures of people arriving and no additional checks. Not getting at you Geoff just genuinely fascinated by the approaches being taken across the world and what appears to be conflicting advice/action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Dagger Is Back said: We’re an island you’re right. Points of entry, generally controlled? No they’re not really. We’ve had flights landing from Northern Italy right up until recently. The football we’ve already discussed. Social media pictures of people arriving and no additional checks. Not getting at you Geoff just genuinely fascinated by the approaches being taken across the world and what appears to be conflicting advice/action Yeah there's a thousand or so fans from Germany's worst affected area arriving in the Weeg tonight for the match. And Spaniards at Anfield last night. Everybody's welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dagger Is Back said: We’re an island you’re right. Points of entry, generally controlled? No they’re not really. We’ve had flights landing from Northern Italy right up until recently. The football we’ve already discussed. Social media pictures of people arriving and no additional checks. Not getting at you Geoff just genuinely fascinated by the approaches being taken across the world and what appears to be conflicting advice/action Yes and they came through passport control and designated points of entry. Unlike Schengen where you can basically drive across Europe. I've been listening right now to a virologist from Cambridge on Radio Ulster. He is incredulous at Trump's ban because it is utterly pointless. As he just said, travel bans simply consume health resources RIGHT NOW which should be used for testing and contact tracing those with the greatest exposure to risk. PS He also said that Denmark's effortd were more about political posturing. Edited March 12, 2020 by Geoff Kilpatrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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