We are not alone.... Maybe.

[JFK-1]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

When people have religious faith and you challenge it, they get very insecure because deep down they know they've been conned.  That's why they lash out and project their own intellectual insecurity by calling other people names and insulting them.  The alien gullibles are exactly the same.  

 

In the video which he claims is debunked the guy has what he says is one of their most famous pieces of video "evidence"

 

The object is filmed from I think a jet aircraft flying high and appears to be moving very fast indeed, seems this video has been one of their go to "proofs" for years. Did you see the video? Know what it actually was? It was a duck.

 

And all these alien experts which must be a thing btw, because this guy he's just ignorant, pointing out that alien craft is actually just a duck moving at very earthly speeds. He knew it was a duck and all these 'experts' didn't, and they still use the duck clip in news reports and docs as 'evidence'

 

He didn't have a single thing to say about that duck, nor anything the guy went over for that matter, not a single thing. Just the guy is ignorant, I have doubts he even watched a single minute of it before saying it's debunked. 😂

 

ad hominem  - Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument

[Ulysses]

1 minute ago, JFK-1 said:

 

In the video which he claims is debunked the guy has what he says is one of their most famous pieces of video "evidence"

 

The object is filmed from I think a jet aircraft flying high and appears to be moving very fast indeed, seems this video has been one of their go to "proofs" for years. Did you see the video? Know what it actually was? It was a duck.

 

And all these alien experts which must be a thing btw, because this guy he's just ignorant, pointing out that alien craft is actually just a duck moving at very earthly speeds. He knew it was a duck and all these 'experts' didn't, and they still use the duck clip in news reports and docs as 'evidence'

 

He didn't have a single thing to say about that duck, nor anything the guy went over for that matter, not a single thing. Just the guy is ignorant, I have doubts he even watched a single minute of it before saying it's debunked. 😂

 

ad hominem  - Attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or argument

 

If it walks like a UFO....  

[JFK-1]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

If it walks like a UFO....  

 

This UFO had actual flapping wings flying over water, that's novel for any craft I would say. Not for ducks though, but maybe we need to I dunno mark ducks or something, make sure no one mistakes them for hypersonic aliens.

[Ulysses]

16 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

This UFO had actual flapping wings flying over water, that's novel for any craft I would say. Not for ducks though, but maybe we need to I dunno mark ducks or something, make sure no one mistakes them for hypersonic aliens.

 

But surely we're stupid for thinking that.   

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On 28/09/2023 at 21:49, Greedy Jambo said:

This boy is going on about ghosts too ^

haha. 

Get a grip man. 

You've been lied to your whole life, deal with it. 

 

You're being lied to now, by divs, and you're lapping it up

[Greedy Jambo]

All I see is 2 very angry men, I'll be honest. 😂

[Ulysses]

Just now, Greedy Jambo said:

[more deflecting nonsense deleted]

 

Still waiting for you to explain your "logic".

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10 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

All I see is 2 very angry men, I'll be honest. 😂

 

[Ulysses]

Just now, ǝǝɥʇᴉɯS said:

 

 

 

[WorldChampions1902]

19 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

He's obviously new to this, he comes across as a complete moron. 

He was so moronic, he didn’t even acknowledge the fact that dozens of the first-hand witnesses (i.e. those directly working on the reverse engineering programs) cited by David Grusch in his testimony a few weeks ago, had already been interviewed under oath by various Senate Committees over the last 2 years!

Which meant that Grusch was being given a Senate hearing of his own, on the back of the first-hand testimonies already provided!

 

As for the assertion that there is no first-hand evidence - wrong! (See bullet 2 below).
 

The late Stanton Friedman was bang-on about the debunkers - “Don’t bother me with the facts”.

 

[Lovecraft]

 

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[Maple Leaf]

@JFK-1 @Ulysses  A couple of years ago I met a guy who was a Flat-Earther.  At first I thought he was joking, but he was serious and I eventually got into a conversation with him about his beliefs.

 

He had an answer for the obvious questions, like why do people not fall off the edges, why is the earth obviously a globe when viewed from space, why are some places in daylight while other places are in darkness.  His answers were absurd, but not to him.  For example, there's a wall around the edges, the pictures are fake, the sun is like a spotlight.

 

I realised that I wasn't going to learn anything from the discussion.  He has his beliefs and he was comfortable with those beliefs.  You can't have a rational discussion with someone who believes that facts can be ignored or are debatable. 

 

 

[Greedy Jambo]

 

[Greedy Jambo]

4 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

@JFK-1 @Ulysses  A couple of years ago I met a guy who was a Flat-Earther.  At first I thought he was joking, but he was serious and I eventually got into a conversation with him about his beliefs.

 

He had an answer for the obvious questions, like why do people not fall off the edges, why is the earth obviously a globe when viewed from space, why are some places in daylight while other places are in darkness.  His answers were absurd, but not to him.  For example, there's a wall around the edges, the pictures are fake, the sun is like a spotlight.

 

I realised that I wasn't going to learn anything from the discussion.  He has his beliefs and he was comfortable with those beliefs.  You can't have a rational discussion with someone who believes that facts can be ignored or are debatable. 

 

 

 

Ghosts, fairies, bigfoot, now flat earth, what next? mermaids?

You're missing the whole point, that our science could be a complete joke to a civilization thousands of years ahead of us. 

[JFK-1]

20 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Ghosts, fairies, bigfoot, now flat earth, what next? mermaids?

You're missing the whole point, that our science could be a complete joke to a civilization thousands of years ahead of us. 

 

You mean like star trek? That's fiction and declaring we would be far behind such a civilisation is in itself a joke. Given there's no evidence of such technology outside fiction and fantasy.

 

In the exact same category as ghosts and Bigfoot. In fact Bigfoot is just slightly more credible than transgalactic aliens.

 

The alien suggestion is a joke to most people which is exactly why the guy in the video I posted is so mocking. Most people are.

[Greedy Jambo]

1 minute ago, JFK-1 said:

 

You mean like star trek? That's fiction and declaring we would be far behind such a civilisation is in itself a joke. Given there's no evidence of such technology outside fiction and fantasy.

 

In the exact same category as ghosts and Bigfoot. In fact Bigfoot is just slightly more credible than transgalactic aliens.

 

The alien suggestion is a joke to most people which is exactly why the guy in the video I posted is so mocking. Most people are.

 

We'll see soon enough, i suppose, 2027 I'm hearing. 

I fecking hate Star Trek by the way. 

[Maple Leaf]

21 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Ghosts, fairies, bigfoot, now flat earth, what next? mermaids?

You're missing the whole point, that our science could be a complete joke to a civilization thousands of years ahead of us. 

No one is missing that point, and no one is denying that possibility.  

 

What is being discussed is the likelihood of such a civilization travelling the vastness of interstellar space and visiting us surreptitiously on a regular basis.  People who believe in that scenario need to provide tangible evidence of such visits, otherwise it's just sci-fi talk.  

[WorldChampions1902]

Just now, Greedy Jambo said:

 

We'll see soon enough, i suppose, 2027 I'm hearing. 

I fecking hate Star Trek by the way. 

Interesting. (The bit in bold).
 

Coulthart is suggesting that Congress will announce ‘something’ in the next 12-18 months which suggests April 2025 at the latest. Can you remember your source?

 

In other news, other credible reporters are seemingly now corroborating (from their sources) what Coulthart has heard from his myriad of US government whistleblowers, adding fuel to the fire. This trickle is starting to become a river. Hopefully a flood follows.

[Greedy Jambo]

2 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Interesting. (The bit in bold).
 

Coulthart is suggesting that Congress will announce ‘something’ in the next 12-18 months which suggests April 2025 at the latest. Can you remember your source?

 

In other news, other credible reporters are seemingly now corroborating (from their sources) what Coulthart has heard from his myriad of US government whistleblowers, adding fuel to the fire. This trickle is starting to become a river. Hopefully a flood follows.

 

2027 has come up twice in the various material I've been looking at, I don't know the original source, it could be bollocks, but the way things are going, it's a realistic time scale. I don't think it's a coincidence that we're having more visits when the planet is on the verge of extinction (climate change, Putin wanting to be the new Hitler etc) 

[WorldChampions1902]

3 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

2027 has come up twice in the various material I've been looking at, I don't know the original source, it could be bollocks, but the way things are going, it's a realistic time scale. I don't think it's a coincidence that we're having more visits when the planet is on the verge of extinction (climate change, Putin wanting to be the new Hitler etc) 

I tend to agree with you. Especially if they take the time to interview (under oath), the 750+ whistleblowers that form part of the separate submission to Congress under the Disclosure Project. And that timescale allows plenty time to cover tracks.

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

An interesting piece on pilots see moving and fading lights in the sky and wrongly reporting some as unidentified objects.

 

[Maple Leaf]

3 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

An interesting piece on pilots see moving and fading lights in the sky and wrongly reporting some as unidentified objects.

 

Contrary to the belief in some areas that pilots are considered to be reliable witnesses, they get things wrong just like other humans.  And I say that as a licensed pilot.

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

2 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

Contrary to the belief in some areas that pilots are considered to be reliable witnesses, they get things wrong just like other humans.  And I say that as a licensed pilot.

Especially Ryanair pilots who seem to forget to flare the aircraft on landing 😉

[Greedy Jambo]

There's a wee bit of difference between a commercial airline pilot, and a military pilot who has been trained to know what he's looking at. 

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Greedy Jambo

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

3 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

There's a wee bit of difference between a commercial airline pilot, and a military pilot that has been trained to know what he's looking at. 

 

The satellite explanation probably accounts for a lot of reports from the air and on the ground too of moving lights but not all. There will still be sightings that are beyond explanation and some may be seen and reported by military sources. 

[JFK-1]

3 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

The satellite explanation probably accounts for a lot of reports from the air and on the ground too of moving lights but not all. There will still be sightings that are beyond explanation and some may be seen and reported by military sources. 

 

What explains the need of aliens to have lights? 😉

[Greedy Jambo]

2 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

The satellite explanation probably accounts for a lot of reports from the air and on the ground too of moving lights but not all. There will still be sightings that are beyond explanation and some may be seen and reported by military sources. 

 

Satellites don't change direction and go from zero to mach 2 

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

1 minute ago, JFK-1 said:

 

What explains the need of aliens to have lights? 😉

It's not exactly stealthy if you ask me 😄

[Greedy Jambo]

3 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

What explains the need of aliens to have lights? 😉

 

What makes you think they have lights? 

Anything with a flashing light gets ignored by me. 

[WorldChampions1902]

1 hour ago, JFK-1 said:

You mean like star trek? That's fiction and declaring we would be far behind such a civilisation is in itself a joke. Given there's no evidence of such technology outside fiction and fantasy.

 

In the exact same category as ghosts and Bigfoot. In fact Bigfoot is just slightly more credible than transatlantic aliens.

 

The alien suggestion is a joke to most people which is exactly why the guy in the video I posted is so mocking. Most people are.

“UFO Disclosure: The Most Significant Law in Human History”.

 

The above article mentions (more than once), hobgoblins, dwarves, hobbits, dragons and orcs as not being covered by that legislation. I’ll leave you to ponder the reasons for that quite deliberate ‘omission’.

https://www.fairobserver.com/world-news/ufo-disclosure-the-most-significant-law-in-human-history/?fbclid=IwAR2v5hI9McOnAeDXcOYYinX2nw_CDddXTKZc3dUfIRsra4DJd8DkMYl6uJg
 

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

2 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Satellites don't change direction and go from zero to mach 2 

I suppose the eyes could be tricked if one light faded and another appeared to flare up in another part of the sky at the same moment making the viewer think it's coming from the same source and the object has travelled a distance in a split second?

[JFK-1]

2 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

It's not exactly stealthy if you ask me 😄

 

The whole thing is freakish. It's like those religious cults prophesying the end of the world in specific years.

 

That doesn't happen, the world is still here, so the prophets say I misread the signs, the world will now end in this date. And the whole cult carries on grifting and cutting.

 

Recently congress was allegedly going to reveal all, show us the alien bodies the lot. NOTHING happened.

 

Now I hear 2027 is the alien invasion year, or something. Do you believe it? 😉

[Greedy Jambo]

5 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

I suppose the eyes could be tricked if one light faded and another appeared to flare up in another part of the sky at the same moment making the viewer think it's coming from the same source and the object has travelled a distance in a split second?

That's a good one to use, I'll give you that. It pisses all over swamp gas.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Greedy Jambo

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

5 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

 

The whole thing is freakish. It's like those religious cults prophesying the end of the world in specific years.

 

That doesn't happen, the world is still here, so the prophets say I misread the signs, the world will now end in this date. And the whole cult carries on grifting and cutting.

 

Recently congress was allegedly going to reveal all, show us the alien bodies the lot. NOTHING happened.

 

Now I hear 2027 is the alien invasion year, or something. Do you believe it? 😉

😄If the aliens are coming they will surely have been travelling for a while and we would have detected something out there by now unless they are already hunkered down in Carnwath or somewhere similar.😉

[WorldChampions1902]

8 minutes ago, JFK-1 said:

Recently congress was allegedly going to reveal all, show us the alien bodies the lot. NOTHING happened.

 

Now I hear 2027 is the alien invasion year, or something. Do you believe it? 😉

Sources please?

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

3 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Sources please?

Kickback obviously 😉

[All roads lead to Gorgie]

18 minutes ago, Greedy Jambo said:

That's a good one to use, I'll give you that. It pisses all over swamp gas.

Swamp gas! that's funny

[WorldChampions1902]

4 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said:

Kickback obviously 😉

That explains it! 👍

[JFK-1]

48 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said:

Sources please?

 

Sources for what? 2027? 

 

I dunno, I'm an idiot in alien circles. Ask your buddy what's miraculous about 2027, seems he's reading more shit than you are.

 

You didn't know this? Get a subscription to ET weekly, or something.

 

2 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

2027 has come up twice in the various material I've been looking at, I don't know the original source, it could be bollocks, but the way things are going, it's a realistic time scale. I don't think it's a coincidence that we're having more visits when the planet is on the verge of extinction (climate change, Putin wanting to be the new Hitler etc) 

 

[Gizmo]

2 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Ghosts, fairies, bigfoot, now flat earth, what next? mermaids?

You're missing the whole point, that our science could be a complete joke to a civilization thousands of years ahead of us. 

 

Thousands of years ahead of us - yet their craft are regularly detected by us primitive hairless apes? Not particularly advanced then!

Have you stopped to consider how implausible that position is - to claim, without evidence, that aliens with tech so advanced as to render "old science" moot mastered FTL travel or created stable wormholes, engineer craft so crap that they can't evade our radar or function properly within our atmosphere to the extent we have recovered crashed craft and alien remains? 

 

[Ulysses]

Yon gullibles have decided to stop wittering on about fake alien miniatures in Peru/Mexico then, have they?

 

👽

[Dawnrazor]

10 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

Yon gullibles have decided to stop wittering on about fake alien miniatures in Peru/Mexico then, have they?

 

👽

That's a very niech section on pornhub.

[Ulysses]

5 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

That's a very niech section on pornhub.

 

I'll take a PM.   

[Dawnrazor]

7 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

I'll take a PM.   

😂

[Maple Leaf]

19 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

Yon gullibles have decided to stop wittering on about fake alien miniatures in Peru/Mexico then, have they?

 

👽

I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it, the chances of any visiting aliens looking remotely like homo sapiens are zero.

 

We look the way we do because of countless (probably millions) of random events that altered DNA going back about three billion years.

 

The chances of the same countless events occurring on a planet in a distant star system are, as I say, zero.  Any speculation that it did happen is science fiction.

[Dawnrazor]

2 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it, the chances of any visiting aliens looking remotely like homo sapiens are zero.

 

We look the way we do because of countless (probably millions) of random events that altered DNA going back about three billion years.

 

The chances of the same countless events occurring on a planet in a distant star system are, as I say, zero.  Any speculation that it did happen is science fiction.

Yep.

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3 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

There's a wee bit of difference between a commercial airline pilot, and a military pilot who has been trained to know what he's looking at. 

 

Even more difference between a random gobshite on the internet and a commercial airline pilot TBF

[ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ]

2 hours ago, Gizmo said:

 

Thousands of years ahead of us - yet their craft are regularly detected by us primitive hairless apes? Not particularly advanced then!

Have you stopped to consider how implausible that position is - to claim, without evidence, that aliens with tech so advanced as to render "old science" moot mastered FTL travel or created stable wormholes, engineer craft so crap that they can't evade our radar or function properly within our atmosphere to the extent we have recovered crashed craft and alien remains? 

 

 

I'll have you know this ape's got a grand head of hair

[JFK-1]

5 hours ago, Maple Leaf said:

I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it, the chances of any visiting aliens looking remotely like homo sapiens are zero.

 

We look the way we do because of countless (probably millions) of random events that altered DNA going back about three billion years.

 

The chances of the same countless events occurring on a planet in a distant star system are, as I say, zero.  Any speculation that it did happen is science fiction.

 

While I would agree on the overall humanoid shape just to bring some science to it I saw Richard Dawkins say there may be features he suspects could occur anywhere repeatedly.

 

He says eyes have evolved independently more than once which suggests eyes may be common anywhere anytime. If complex life begins that is.

 

Speaking of Dawkins and eyes, ever wondered how we think eyes evolved? A very young Dawkins again has answers he can support.

 

Richard Dawkins demonstrates the evolution of the eye