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Just now, Pans Jambo said:

roon yeez Edinburgh! East Lothian level 2!!!

You’ll see plenty of Edinburgh punters in the Pans pubs next weekend. 😀

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Adolfa Sturgeon trying harder to suppress the virus in her SNP support heartlands.  Doesn't care about the virus running out of control in poor old Edinburgh.  

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1 hour ago, Harry Potter said:

brilliant, just put them on charge at the end of the day.

 

It's the future, after all this is over, i can see them wandering around shopping centres giving out public safety messages and advertising that shop X on the second floor has 30% off selected stock for today only etc etc.

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1 minute ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

If a teacher living in West Lothian, level 4, are they allowed to travel to work to a school in level 2 (Midlothian)

Still travel for work. She wants you to work 

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1 minute ago, Radio Ga Ga said:

If a teacher living in West Lothian, level 4, are they allowed to travel to work to a school in level 2 (Midlothian)

Teachers are key workers so that would be allowed.

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3 minutes ago, Dandyman79 said:

You just know that there will be an increase in day trippers to North berwick etc with going into level 2 

 

N B chocker already, It'll make little difference. I play golf with a football pundits brother, he states the holiday lets underneath him are full of folk from the West. Balloons, streamers, party time banners and even fireworks, refuse bins are over flowing with all kinds of alien crap. What feckin lockdown?

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Governor Tarkin
2 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Well that's another anti-snp excuse bit the dust. They'll be along with a new one soon

 

 

What makes you think excuses are required? 

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Governor Tarkin
5 minutes ago, Barack said:

Internal gloating. Bit poor, chums.

 

When you've got boy's like Dagger admitting what he just has.

 

We're seeing a lot of true colours, Barack. It's not pretty.

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42 minutes ago, Irufushi said:

Seeing less and less folk bothering with them up here. 

 

Up here?

 

Here in my town in the Borders I can count on one hand the number of people whom I've seen since July not wearing a mask in a shop, in fact seeing more and more people wearing masks in the streets, which I don't get, I'd understand if it was busy with a lot of people and crowds, but this is the country and it's anything but crowded here.

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3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

Into wards/dedicated hospitals awaiting testing.  Basically anywhere they can contain the spread except care homes.

 

They dont exist and neither do we have trained staff. Care homes are specialist geriatric units and if they can't protect their residents i dont know of anywhere else that could.

I'm more concerned about the reasons for withholding the disclosure and allowing infected people to spread the virus.

 

There was no spread. We know this because of genomic analysis. Certain details were not made public because of patient confidentiality

A breakdown by sector per region of where the infections are happening so targetted actions can be made.

We don't know exactly where and how the virus has spread. We can only make informed assumptions. Our respose is targeted, that's why we have the tier system.

3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

Can't say we would have the resources to do it across the board, which is why you do spot checks and catch people on public transport for starters.

 

There issues with some people wearing coverings but hundreds of house parties have been broken up and there are follow up checks on those in Quarantine.

 

Other breaches such as house parties are a direct consequence on shutting well-run secure hospitality.

Except for  England apparently

3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

 

People no longer watch the briefings as we don't trust the SG, one example being the 2 week circuit breaker which suddenly changed into a tier system to keep businesses shut.

Confidence in the SG handling of the situation remains high. There was no sudden change to a tiered system it was a known consequence should the circuit breaker not be very successful. Notions that this was done to keep businesses shut are ridiculous. The tier system was introduced to keep as many businesses as possible open.

3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

 

They have been shut for nearly 6 weeks.  Hospitality does not seem to be the cause would be my conclusion.

Then your conclusion is wrong. All places where interaction takes place are likely to spread the virus. Hospitality may not be the worst but we have made the choice to open some activities in some areas and close others in other areas. This has been done with a high degree of consideration. Cases are declining very slowly but they were increasing rapidly before the tier system was introduced. 

3 hours ago, frankblack said:

 

Any fall in infections will be attributable to other factors, such as an effective lockdown where people have nothing to go out for bar their messages nowadays.

 

People are still going to work, school, college etc and are still engaging in some social activities. Hospitality is open to a greater of lesser degree all over the country. Do you really not understand why some areas need stronger restrictions than others and that this approach has flattened the curve while allowing as much social and economic activity as possible?

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9 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

You’ll see plenty of Edinburgh punters in the Pans pubs next weekend. 😀

I've since moved to Port Seton so its all good :thumbsup:

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Governor Tarkin
21 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Well I’m glad that circuit breaker did the job it’s designed to. 

 

That was England.

We had a 16 day reset instead.

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I think this one feels worse than the first lockdown, where the weather was good, takeaway pints in the park, even the ridiculous clapping had a sense of unity.


This time the weather is shite, many already unemployed, shops and pubs closed and boarded up when you walk around town, Xmas coming up and now more people face redundancy or a big chunk taken off their wage because of furlough. 

 

Grim times.

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Tenaciousdandy
10 minutes ago, OBE said:

 

N B chocker already, It'll make little difference. I play golf with a football pundits brother, he states the holiday lets underneath him are full of folk from the West. Balloons, streamers, party time banners and even fireworks, refuse bins are over flowing with all kinds of alien crap. What feckin lockdown?

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Yeah always is, narrow high street doesn't help either, is that Gordon by any chance? 

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7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

People jumping the gun about going into tier 2. She said only if infection rates don't rise dramatically.

 

 

What drama is gonna make numbers rise rapidly, day-trippers? 10k fines please.

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The Real Maroonblood
2 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said:

I think this one feels worse than the first lockdown, where the weather was good, takeaway pints in the park, even the ridiculous clapping had a sense of unity.


This time the weather is shite, many already unemployed, shops and pubs closed and boarded up when you walk around town, Xmas coming up and now more people face redundancy or a big chunk taken off their wage because of furlough. 

 

Grim times.

I agree that it appears people are finding it more difficult this time.

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Dennis Reynolds

I don't feel like I need a pint so much that I'll head through to Midlothian/East Lothian to have a considerable main meal just so I can get a pint. I'm assuming only pubs with a kitchen will be able to open as well? 2 hour time limit probably as well?

 

I can wait.

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Just now, Dandyman79 said:

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Yeah always is, narrow high street doesn't help either, is that Gordon by any chance? 

 

Och! There's thousands of Gordons, can you keep a secret...

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Governor Tarkin
2 minutes ago, OBE said:

 

What drama is gonna make numbers rise rapidly, day-trippers? 10k fines please.

 

I can walk 10 minutes up the road and can't get a glass of wine with my dinner, or walk 12 minutes in the same direction and jar on. Mental.

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1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I agree that it appears people are finding it more difficult this time.

Big concern through here is that most people now know someone who is positive, wasn't like that back in March. People with symptoms queuing for tests is also a first for me, never heard of that in Glasgow before.

 

It feels a lot more real today than at any time this year.

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Just now, Governor Tarkin said:

 

I can walk 10 minutes up the road and can't get a glass of wine with my dinner, or walk 12 minutes in the same direction and jar on. Mental.

 

There's always a way...

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Tenaciousdandy
Just now, OBE said:

 

Och! There's thousands of Gordons, can you keep a secret...

That is very true lol if the same one I know, he was talking to me about holiday homes a couple of weeks ago. But yeah I was walking down the High Street last weekend  and had to walk on the road due to the amount of folk window shopping 

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1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

Year from hell this. Pretty hard not to get depressed.  

 

Amen.  But just imagine the better times ahead.  We all want the same thing.

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1 minute ago, OmiyaHearts said:

Big concern through here is that most people now know someone who is positive, wasn't like that back in March. People with symptoms queuing for tests is also a first for me, never heard of that in Glasgow before.

 

It feels a lot more real today than at any time this year.

I get it.

I have bad and good days with this.

Keep the chin up.

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3 minutes ago, Dandyman79 said:

That is very true lol if the same one I know, he was talking to me about holiday homes a couple of weeks ago. But yeah I was walking down the High Street last weekend  and had to walk on the road due to the amount of folk window shopping 

 

Same conversation Dm...:thumbs_up:

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jack D and coke
30 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Ruth Davidson, regularly the angriest person in politics with a very subdued response.

 

Speaks volumes.

Who wee Jimmy Kranky?

 

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jack D and coke
6 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Year from hell this. Pretty hard not to get depressed.  

Gets to us all at times pal I have my days as well. It’s usually reading this thread that does it I’ll be honest :lol: 

Keep the head up man👍🏼

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Brighton Jambo
4 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Is the tier 4 restrictions limited to 3 weeks? 
 

Not that govt has adhered to the timelines its given around this previously. 
 

 

This is the key point.  
 

I live in East Dunbartonshire and we were initially told the reset would be for a couple of weeks, then we were straight into Tier 3, now we are into Tier 4 which we all know should have been done weeks ago.

 

I don’t believe a word that comes out of that woman’s mouth and now we have Tier 4 to deal with.

 

I absolutely cannot believe there are people on this thread today smuggly posting that her action today somehow contradicts some of the criticism aimed at her.  The way the West has been handled has been a total and utter shambles for weeks and now after all that the reward is three weeks at level 4.  I’m absolutely sick to death of it.  

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Nucky Thompson
5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Year from hell this. Pretty hard not to get depressed.  

It's bad enough in the Winter even without covid, especially for those us that suffer from s.a.d.

 

I'll be gutted if I don't get my yearly trip to the Canaries come February 

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33 minutes ago, Jamboross said:

The pubs in Musselburgh are all pretty grim, I can't imagine too many day trippers making the trek to drink in The Anchor. 

the Ravelston is decent for lunch and a pint. Had a cracking sea bass out of there. 

Hole in the wall is a decent wee boozer.

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5 minutes ago, jonesy said:

I've often needed a drink after  having been to certain parts of Mid- and East Lothian, though. :) 

I have mates in mind Lothian and I can confirm that it’s a shit hole lol ! I also have family in Mussy ! I’ll say no more 👀

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7 minutes ago, jonesy said:

I've often needed a drink after  having been to certain parts of Mid- and East Lothian, though. :) 

 So do we, after you leave...

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Just now, Brighton Jambo said:

This is the key point.  
 

I live in East Dunbartonshire and we were initially told the reset would be for a couple of weeks, then we were straight into Tier 3, now we are into Tier 4 which we all know should have been done weeks ago.

 

I don’t believe a word that comes out of that woman’s mouth and now we have Tier 4 to deal with.

 

I absolutely cannot believe there are people on this thread today smuggly posting that her action today somehow contradicts some of the criticism aimed at her.  The way the West has been handled has been a total and utter shambles for weeks and now after all that the reward is three weeks at level 4.  I’m absolutely sick to death of it.  

The numbers show they really couldn't have got it more wrong. However, we are where we are now. There's nothing else that can be locked down (except schools), so surely the numbers have to reduce?

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Just now, JamesM48 said:

I have mates in mind Lothian and I can confirm that it’s a shit hole lol ! I also have family in Mussy ! I’ll say no more 👀

 

Good call...:)

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Malinga the Swinga
32 minutes ago, Barack said:

Internal gloating. Bit poor, chums.

 

When you've got boy's like Dagger admitting what he just has.

Cause they don't care about Dagger or anything other than NS and party. Forget she should have done this from very start and that dithering has caused infection rate to continue out of control, just defect as per normal. 

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Just now, OmiyaHearts said:

The numbers show they really couldn't have got it more wrong. However, we are where we are now. There's nothing else that can be locked down (except schools), so surely the numbers have to reduce?

I really hope so.  It’s good to see that some other areas like East Lothian are going the right direction, I’ve already had my dad on the phone (lives in North Berwick) saying he can now go down the pub again.  I don’t tend to swear at my old man but I was pretty close! 
 

 

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jack D and coke
2 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said:

This is the key point.  
 

I live in East Dunbartonshire and we were initially told the reset would be for a couple of weeks, then we were straight into Tier 3, now we are into Tier 4 which we all know should have been done weeks ago.

 

I don’t believe a word that comes out of that woman’s mouth and now we have Tier 4 to deal with.

 

I absolutely cannot believe there are people on this thread today smuggly posting that her action today somehow contradicts some of the criticism aimed at her.  The way the West has been handled has been a total and utter shambles for weeks and now after all that the reward is three weeks at level 4.  I’m absolutely sick to death of it.  

It’s very tough mate I have sympathy. Every single thing is politicised everywhere now it’s not just here. British and American politics are every bit as tribal now. 
It’s a sad state of affairs and probably why it’s going to take us longer than other countries to get out of this mess. 

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