Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

52 years of labour got us nothing. And not a peep from anyone like Enzo. 

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

52 years of labour got us nothing. And not a peep from anyone like Enzo. 

"Got us nothing"?? Who are us?? It's the idea that an entire country, with the same mix of people,  views, ideas, priorities as England, Wales or any other country, should expect "something" from our govt. Presumably the folks that voted Labour got what they wanted, given Labour were in power for a good part of that 52 year period. 

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, jack D and coke said:

Again you’re coming at this from an angle. 
I don’t hate England or the English and it annoys me when people suggest that’s what it is. We DONT get what we vote for by voting labour. It’s as simple as that. 
Im not particularly a fan of the snp and I know plenty people who feel the same as me. I couldn’t vote for labour or conservatie

anymore though. 

You are coming at it from "an angle", whatever that means, as is every single person who extols the virtues of the SNP.

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

6 deaths in all UK settings

1182 positive cases out of 190,000 processed tests

867 people in hospital, 28 fewer than yesterday

70 people in ventilator beds, 7 fewer than yesterday

Good news NT

[jack D and coke]

25 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

You are coming at it from "an angle", whatever that means, as is every single person who extols the virtues of the SNP.

I suppose I am aye, I can’t argue with that. 
I don’t really like the SNP tho. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by jack D and coke

[Cade]

The opposition in Scotland (whether they be Labour, Tory or LibDumb) have exactly two policies:

1) Independence Never

2) Whatever Westminster decides on Scotland's behalf is fine

 

Not much to go on.

Which is why the SNP keep winning landslide after landslide.

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, Cade said:

The opposition in Scotland (whether they be Labour, Tory or LibDumb) have exactly two policies:

1) Independence Never

2) Whatever Westminster decides on Scotland's behalf is fine

 

Not much to go on.

Which is why the SNP keep winning landslide after landslide.

[Weakened Offender]

5 hours ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Scotland as a country has been let down for 13 years by having what is, effectively, a protest movement in power,  weaponising  devolution for the sole purpose of agitating for independence. Having a "group think" govt with no tolerance of dissenting voices is unhealthy and damaging. In a normal country, with normal politics, they would have been out on their chorus several years ago. 

 

You are an absolute moron, son. 😃

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, Weakened Offender said:

 

You are an absolute moron, son. 😃

[jake]

8 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

But she did answer the questions.  Not on Mooth's terms of course,  but on her own terms.   Nevertheless they were comprehensively answered.   Not even by evasion (as frequently seen at PMQs) but with clever language.   

 

As usual,  Mooth thinks she can skewer the FM to provide particular types of answers,  but the FM is several dozen steps ahead of her.   The sooner Mooth slithers off to the unelected chamber the better.

Mooth 🙄

 

As bad as the krankie chat.

 

Honestly sick of all that puerile stuff.

[Enzo Chiefo]

22 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

You are an absolute moron, son. 😃

You're opinion, to be quite honest, isn,t worth a feck😃

[Weakened Offender]

7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

You're opinion, to be quite honest, isn,t worth a feck😃

 

Fair enough 😁

[Weakened Offender]

17 minutes ago, jake said:

Mooth 🙄

 

As bad as the krankie chat.

 

Honestly sick of all that puerile stuff.

 

I don't think Mooth is strong enough. 

 

Rapeclause Roofie is good though , as is The Fat Tank Commander. 😊

[Francis Albert]

5 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

6 deaths in all UK settings

1182 positive cases out of 190,000 processed tests

867 people in hospital, 28 fewer than yesterday

70 people in ventilator beds, 7 fewer than yesterday

About the same number of deaths as  from road accidents every day. 

About one third of one percent of total UK deaths daily.

But let's continue to roll out the police state in response.

Edited August 20, 2020 by Francis Albert

[Cade]

How about "Unelected Lady Ruth of Davidson"

Or Ruth "I'm resigning in protest at Boris because he's bad for the union but now he's given me an ermine cloak I'm back" Davidson

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Cade

[Captain Canada]

I found this an interesting watch.

 

https://thefatemperor.com/crucial-viewing-to-truly-understand-our-current-viral-issue-casedemic/

[graygo]

5 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

6 deaths in all UK settings

1182 positive cases out of 190,000 processed tests

867 people in hospital, 28 fewer than yesterday

70 people in ventilator beds, 7 fewer than yesterday

 

I presume the drop in numbers on ventilators is linked to the number of deaths.

[Francis Albert]

4 minutes ago, graygo said:

 

I presume the drop in numbers on ventilators is linked to the number of deaths.

Presumptious but if so maybe just one new ventilator case. More good news if so.

[Brick Tamland]

28 minutes ago, Captain Canada said:

I found this an interesting watch.

 

https://thefatemperor.com/crucial-viewing-to-truly-understand-our-current-viral-issue-casedemic/

Very interesting 

[TheOak88]

France up to 4,700 daily cases. 

[J.T.F.Robertson]

8 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

6 deaths in all UK settings

1182 positive cases out of 190,000 processed tests

867 people in hospital, 28 fewer than yesterday

70 people in ventilator beds, 7 fewer than yesterday

 

That's more than decent, (as long as you're not one) so when can I come hame and why is Canada on the quarantine list?

It's not perfect over here, but to me at least, neither are we one of the worst.

Not expecting an answer, btw.

 

[graygo]

53 minutes ago, TheOak88 said:

France up to 4,700 daily cases. 

 

And only 12 deaths.

[ri Alban]

4 hours ago, graygo said:

 

And only 12 deaths.

Only!? 

[Nucky Thompson]

4 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Only!? 

In March and April that would have been about 1000

[ri Alban]

8 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Only!? 

 

3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

In March and April that would have been about 1000

Still too many, tho, Nucks. 

 

Anyway, my sportie had the lights on this morning, for the first time since March. 

  The gym is opening! Tick tock! 

[The Internet]

Good to see the road accidents comparison come back up. Other things are finally causing more deaths than covid 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Lord BJ said:

Got a message last night. Temp check on way in and face masks to be worn inside except when exercising and enhanced cleaning seem to be the biggest changes. 
 

Albeit won’t be allowed people spotting you. But hey me and the squat rack got a long overdue date 😀

My gym always had disinfectant spray bottles and you were expected to spray the equipment after use.

Gyms should have opened weeks ago imo 

[Walter Bishop]

The latest scandal....if you tested positive in March for covid and went to hospital today with a broken leg you are included in the covid hospital admissions for that day. 

 

 

 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

Stock markets were lifted on Friday morning after Pfizer and BioNTech released a statement to say that a Covid-19 vaccine they are working on could be up for regulatory review by October.

It has raised some expectation that life around the World could return to normal sooner than expected

[Back to 2005]

1 hour ago, ri Alban said:

Only!? 

Death's in the UK have been down for the last 8 weeks. Does not suggest we continue to be in the middle of a deadly pandemic does it? 

[Back to 2005]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Stock markets were lifted on Friday morning after Pfizer and BioNTech released a statement to say that a Covid-19 vaccine they are working on could be up for regulatory review by October.

It has raised some expectation that life around the World could return to normal sooner than expected

The end game is mandatory vaccinations. That's the money line.

Rather you than me to be the first in line to try it!

 

[Back to 2005]

1 hour ago, Walter Bishop said:

The latest scandal....if you tested positive in March for covid and went to hospital today with a broken leg you are included in the covid hospital admissions for that day. 

 

 

 

 

How are people still trusting anything the government has to say.  Why would they need to lie to us? 

[Cade]

Private rental eviction ban runs out this weekend.

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

270,000 households are in private rental arrears.

 

Face-to-face bailiff collection ban also runs out this weekend

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

As many as 1 in 9 people in the UK is in enough debt to warrant bailiff action.

 

Brace yourselves. 

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by Cade

[Nucky Thompson]

10 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

The end game is mandatory vaccinations. That's the money line.

Rather you than me to be the first in line to try it!

 

There is no way a Conservative government will ever make a vaccine mandatory.

Hopefully the lure of life getting back to normal will be enough for people to get vaccinated voluntarily 

[Nucky Thompson]

2 minutes ago, Cade said:

Private rental eviction ban runs out this weekend.

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

270,000 households are in private rental arrears.

 

Face-to-face bailiff collection ban also runs out this weekend

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

As many as 1 in 9 people in the UK is in enough debt to warrant bailiff action.

 

Brace yourselves. 

 

The worst thing the social done was to pay housing benefit straight into the tenants bank account rather than straight to the landlords/council.

It's all getting spent on drugs and bevy.

 

[Back to 2005]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

There is no way a Conservative government will ever make a vaccine mandatory.

Hopefully the lure of life getting back to normal will be enough for people to get vaccinated voluntarily 

That is the carrot so people comply. Would normally take years to develop a vaccine and ensure its safe. 

The Australian PM meanwhile had threatened all sorts of people dont comply. 

Someone is getting very rich over all of this.

[Harry Potter]

8 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The worst thing the social done was to pay housing benefit straight into the tenants bank account rather than straight to the landlords/council.

It's all getting spent on drugs and bevy.

 

Bit harsh on the majority imo.

[Nucky Thompson]

5 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said:

That is the carrot so people comply. Would normally take years to develop a vaccine and ensure its safe. 

The Australian PM meanwhile had threatened all sorts of people dont comply. 

Someone is getting very rich over all of this.

You've got a point, but with advances in science and technology you would think that things could get done a lot quicker.

People will always be sceptical because for the last 100 years it's always taken a long time to find a vaccine.

 

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

You've got a point, but with advances in science and technology you would think that things could get done a lot quicker.

People will always be sceptical because for the last 100 years it's always taken a long time to find a vaccine.

 

Circumstances are also completely different. I'm fairly sure everyone saying "vaccines take years to make!", whilst correct, couldn't tell you the last vaccine made. Generally they're not made during a global pandemic when they are needed asap.

 

The current vaccine in development from Oxford Uni was also well on its way to being put through clinical trials/rolled out. It had the benefit of already being produced for MERS and going through animal trials and initial safety tests. This one was also started in January to tackle Covid-19. Whether it passes Phase III trials is obviously a different matter but it's not going to be anything like the Russian effort. 

[Captain Canada]

Regarding vaccines, the RNA type they're looking to use for this virus hasn't been used in humans before as far as I've read. 

 

https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/five-things-you-need-know-about-mrna-vaccines.html#

 

Personally, I wouldn't want to have a vaccine that puts DNA instructions into my body as referenced in the above and others.

 

We have immune systems to fight off viruses and in my view, the over 99% survival rate for this particular virus doesn't merit medical intervention for the majority of people. 

 

I would say that though, because I have no financial interest in big pharmaceutical companies! 

Edited August 21, 2020 by Captain Canada

[Governor Tarkin]

36 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The worst thing the social done was to pay housing benefit straight into the tenants bank account rather than straight to the landlords/council.

It's all getting spent on drugs and bevy.

 

 

Fortunately I haven't had any bother collecting the rent so far, and it's mostly been spent on drugs and bevy. 👍

 

In all seriousness though, Cade highlights a massive problem. I know a couple of small scale landlords and they've all shown a willingness to be flexible. I deal mostly with Pakistani PhD students and their families and they're genrally really nice folk and have all been pretty spot on. We all have a duty of care to each other and thankfully most folk understand that.

 

There's some utterly ruthless, hearless *******s out there though and I really feel for the folk about to be thrown to the wolves. It's sickening tbh.

[Taffin]

36 minutes ago, Cade said:

Private rental eviction ban runs out this weekend.

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

270,000 households are in private rental arrears.

 

Face-to-face bailiff collection ban also runs out this weekend

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

As many as 1 in 9 people in the UK is in enough debt to warrant bailiff action.

 

Brace yourselves. 

 

 

Brutal stuff, though not unexpected; you can't run a country into the ground and avoid that kind of impact. Really sad and must be an absolute nightmare for those people facing it, most through absolutely no fault of their own

[Victorian]

There's an estimated 40,000 imminent eviction notices pending in England.   That's a small city.    The government is doing **** all about it.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Victorian said:

There's an estimated 40,000 imminent eviction notices pending in England.   That's a small city.    The government is doing **** all about it.

That’s horrendous.

[AlphonseCapone]

1 hour ago, Cade said:

Private rental eviction ban runs out this weekend.

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

270,000 households are in private rental arrears.

 

Face-to-face bailiff collection ban also runs out this weekend

Government has shown no interest in extending it.

As many as 1 in 9 people in the UK is in enough debt to warrant bailiff action.

 

Brace yourselves. 

 

 

Not in Scotland though I don't think. Extended till next year. 

 

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The worst thing the social done was to pay housing benefit straight into the tenants bank account rather than straight to the landlords/council.

It's all getting spent on drugs and bevy.

 

 

You made that up. But go, prove me wrong, post your evidence. 

[The Internet]

That is an amazing generalisation tbf top of the range stuff. 

[Nucky Thompson]

16 minutes ago, AlphonseCapone said:

 

 

 

 

You made that up. But go, prove me wrong, post your evidence. 

How am I going to get evidence 

What do you want me to do, go and chap on all the junkies and chavs doors who are in social housing and spending their housing benefit?

Or are you saying this never happens?

 

Anyway I'm out of the political discussion that Cade seems to want to take this thread down every day.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, Lord BJ said:

Got a message last night. Temp check on way in and face masks to be worn inside except when exercising and enhanced cleaning seem to be the biggest changes. 
 

Albeit won’t be allowed people spotting you. But hey me and the squat rack got a long overdue date 😀

I got email from my gym too . Looking forward to going back . It’s one of the main things I really missed , apart from face to face human contact . I assume machines etc will be spaced out etc . Luckily I’ve not put too much COVID weight on during the lockdown , about 4 lbs ! Hope to shift that soon . Be nice to have some more normality again . 

[Cade]

Housing benefit shouldn't exist in the first place; all it is is public funds being used to keep the housing market inflated.

Taxpayer's money is being shovelled directly into landlords pockets.

It's a state subsidy on rental greed.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

This keeps rents artificially high which in turn pushes house prices up as houses are seen a good investment which in turn is what the entire UK economy is built on. 

 

In a true free market economy, the rate of rent would be far lower because that would be what the market could take.

But due to housing benefit distorting the market, it's not.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by Cade

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said:

The worst thing the social done was to pay housing benefit straight into the tenants bank account rather than straight to the landlords/council.

It's all getting spent on drugs and bevy.

 

I work in this area and can confirm that’s absolutely a lazy stereotype your peddling . Yes initially at first it was an issue but it’s not a massive issue as you might think. Admittedly they need support to manage their money effectively and most do .