Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Victorian]

42 minutes ago, Smithee said:

 

Chaotic is probably fair but these processes, systems etc were implemented in a very short space of time for such a scale. With such an enormous infrastructure to put in place elsewhere at the same time, track and trace, quarantine etc, I think the public bodies involved have done a great job.

 

When you think about the logistics of receiving, processing, storing, distributing, storing again and finally administering millions of doses of vaccines to the right people in the right order, it's kind of amazing really.

 

Still frustrating if it's your record that's off of course

 

 

I tend to think this type of database weakness pre-dated the pandemic tbh.  There may be an element of what you're saying but the number that the GP surgery now doesn't recognise was supplied by them before any vaccine appointments were made.  It sounds like there isn't sufficient safeguards,  automated checks or cohesion to prevent duplications between different databases.  

[Captain Canada]

From April 2010

 

"Ms Sturgeon said swine flu, which emerged in Mexico a year ago, had given Scotland the opportunity to test its pandemic plans. She said what had been learned would help the country cope with a future pandemic, such as one involving H5N1 bird flu, which remained a risk.

 

"But Ms Sturgeon admitted the mildness of the swine flu pandemic meant Scotland had not been fully tested for a more severe outbreak.

"Although it is useful in terms of planning for the future, we shouldn't necessarily tell ourselves that we have been through a pandemic that was as severe as a pandemic might be," she said."

 

https://www.scotsman.com/health/scotland-racks-ps55m-swine-flu-bill-2473151

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Captain Canada said:

From April 2010

 

"Ms Sturgeon said swine flu, which emerged in Mexico a year ago, had given Scotland the opportunity to test its pandemic plans. She said what had been learned would help the country cope with a future pandemic, such as one involving H5N1 bird flu, which remained a risk.

 

"But Ms Sturgeon admitted the mildness of the swine flu pandemic meant Scotland had not been fully tested for a more severe outbreak.

"Although it is useful in terms of planning for the future, we shouldn't necessarily tell ourselves that we have been through a pandemic that was as severe as a pandemic might be," she said."

 

https://www.scotsman.com/health/scotland-racks-ps55m-swine-flu-bill-2473151

 

 

 

I must have missed that ! Happily oblivious to it 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Captain Canada said:

From April 2010

 

"Ms Sturgeon said swine flu, which emerged in Mexico a year ago, had given Scotland the opportunity to test its pandemic plans. She said what had been learned would help the country cope with a future pandemic, such as one involving H5N1 bird flu, which remained a risk.

 

"But Ms Sturgeon admitted the mildness of the swine flu pandemic meant Scotland had not been fully tested for a more severe outbreak.

"Although it is useful in terms of planning for the future, we shouldn't necessarily tell ourselves that we have been through a pandemic that was as severe as a pandemic might be," she said."

 

https://www.scotsman.com/health/scotland-racks-ps55m-swine-flu-bill-2473151

 

 

 

I must have missed that ! Happily oblivious to it 

[ri Alban]

16 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Oh i know  I spelled / spelt it wrong but couldn’t be arsed correcting it as I thought someone might do it for me ! Merci 😎

 

Good name for a rock band. 👍 

[Don Dan]

Lead by Clowns and Donkeys only interested in lining their pockets and the pockets of their mates. 
 

https://apple.news/AHB1DA1MbSyePVzo2TM30Lw

 

Thousands of lives were lost due to delays and mistakes made at the start of the COVID pandemic by both ministers and their scientific advisers according to a highly critical report by MPs.

[The Mighty Thor]

28 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Lead by Clowns and Donkeys only interested in lining their pockets and the pockets of their mates. 
 

https://apple.news/AHB1DA1MbSyePVzo2TM30Lw

 

Thousands of lives were lost due to delays and mistakes made at the start of the COVID pandemic by both ministers and their scientific advisers according to a highly critical report by MPs.

There's a public inquiry into Westminster's handling of the pandemic coming. But not yet, the time isn't right. They've not emptied the trough yet and there's still legal proceedings ongoing to stop the FOI's into where all the money went (to Spaffer's mates)

 

Soon though 👍

[SectionDJambo]

34 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

There's a public inquiry into Westminster's handling of the pandemic coming. But not yet, the time isn't right. They've not emptied the trough yet and there's still legal proceedings ongoing to stop the FOI's into where all the money went (to Spaffer's mates)

 

Soon though 👍

Hopefully before the next General Election, so that the UK electorate can have another chance to decide if they want to have an extension of this government being able to do what it likes, no matter how corrupt it appears to be.

It's widely suspected that Johnson doesn't want any revelations on the contracts handed out to cronies, or the decisions made by him and others, out in the public domain before he can come up with his next 3 word slogan to mesmerise his adoring public.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

24 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

Hopefully before the next General Election, so that the UK electorate can have another chance to decide if they want to have an extension of this government being able to do what it likes, no matter how corrupt it appears to be.

It's widely suspected that Johnson doesn't want any revelations on the contracts handed out to cronies, or the decisions made by him and others, out in the public domain before he can come up with his next 3 word slogan to mesmerise his adoring public.

 

They've wheeled out 'Brexit Hardman' Steve Barclay today to do the pressers and he's being torn limb from limb by some of the media, not the BBC, naturally. 

 

Spaffer picked a good week to go hiding in Marbella, eh?

[SectionDJambo]

25 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

They've wheeled out 'Brexit Hardman' Steve Barclay today to do the pressers and he's being torn limb from limb by some of the media, not the BBC, naturally. 

 

Spaffer picked a good week to go hiding in Marbella, eh?

Probably no coincidence.

Barclay has obviously been heavily briefed on the responses to all expected questions and how to completely ignore any surprise ones with the pre rehearsed rambles about how wonderfully they responded with the vaccine.

Nobody seems to ask them how the NHS could be so poorly equipped to deal with a pandemic of this nature, in the first place, when we had had 10 years of Conservative government, and an assessment within those 10 years of what was required to fight against the expected outbreak of some kind of pandemic.

Mind you, after Johnson having a go at Cameron and May at their conference, it seems he is prepared to blame past Conservative governments for failures that he is boldly attempting to rectify. All without saying that he was part of the No10 cabinet for a significant time during those governments.

Even he can’t try to blame any other party, so he’ll pin the blame on his former bosses.

[The Mighty Thor]

16 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said:

Probably no coincidence.

Barclay has obviously been heavily briefed on the responses to all expected questions and how to completely ignore any surprise ones with the pre rehearsed rambles about how wonderfully they responded with the vaccine.

Nobody seems to ask them how the NHS could be so poorly equipped to deal with a pandemic of this nature, in the first place, when we had had 10 years of Conservative government, and an assessment within those 10 years of what was required to fight against the expected outbreak of some kind of pandemic.

Mind you, after Johnson having a go at Cameron and May at their conference, it seems he is prepared to blame past Conservative governments for failures that he is boldly attempting to rectify. All without saying that he was part of the No10 cabinet for a significant time during those governments.

Even he can’t try to blame any other party, so he’ll pin the blame on his former bosses.

plus ca change.

 

Barclay's interview on LBC this morning was arse tightening. 

 

Spaffer is a particularly insidious character, a veneer of the buffoon, the good guy, but underneath it all he's a calculating, sociopath with a complete aversion to the truth or taking any kind of responsibility as evidenced by his inability to acknowledge how many sprogs he'd fired out.

 

It'll be everyone else's fault. Just like Brexit, just like the fuel crisis, the HGV shortage, the food shortages, the veg rotting in the fields and pretty much everything else he touches. 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, ri Alban said:

Good name for a rock band. 👍 

“ Happily oblivious “ ? Or “ Guliiotine” ? 😳

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, Boy Daniel said:

Lead by Clowns and Donkeys only interested in lining their pockets and the pockets of their mates. 
 

https://apple.news/AHB1DA1MbSyePVzo2TM30Lw

 

Thousands of lives were lost due to delays and mistakes made at the start of the COVID pandemic by both ministers and their scientific advisers according to a highly critical report by MPs.

Whilst no fan of Boris it was a 4 nations response which is being heavily criticised ! 

[Jeffros Furios]

Tory *******s ! 

[Taffin]

14 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Whilst no fan of Boris it was a 4 nations response which is being heavily criticised ! 

 

 

"It was a deliberate policy - proposed by official scientific advisers" is the key bit for me.

 

Yet we're told over and over on here to listen to them...

Edited October 12, 2021 by Taffin

[Nucky Thompson]

12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Whilst no fan of Boris it was a 4 nations response which is being heavily criticised ! 

No no James, it's all the Tories fault, even though Sturgeon was in charge of the farce up here

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

 

"It was a deliberate policy - proposed by official scientific advisers" is the key bit for me.

 

Yet we're told over and over on here to listen to them...

👍

2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No no James, it's all the Tories fault, even though Sturgeon was in charge of the farce up here

Well surely if people are condemning Boris they should also be condemning Sturgeon? They were all in it together . Well they certainly were , at the beginning of the pandemic before she started playing silly games , with tweaks here and there to diktats , just to be different ! 

[Enzo Chiefo]

It's SAGE and the overreliance on dodgy modelling that comes in for the heaviest criticism in the MPs report.

The Govt is criticised for blindly "following the science" rather than questioning and disputing the advice. Hancock and others "regret" not challenging SAGE more at the time.

The obsession about protecting the NHS was also criticised as it led to the most vulnerable in care home settings being exposed to the virus.

That imo was a monumental failure by both Govts in allowing positive patients to be decanted into care homes full of old and vulnerable patients. 

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said:

plus ca change.

 

Barclay's interview on LBC this morning was arse tightening. 

 

Spaffer is a particularly insidious character, a veneer of the buffoon, the good guy, but underneath it all he's a calculating, sociopath with a complete aversion to the truth or taking any kind of responsibility as evidenced by his inability to acknowledge how many sprogs he'd fired out.

 

It'll be everyone else's fault. Just like Brexit, just like the fuel crisis, the HGV shortage, the food shortages, the veg rotting in the fields and pretty much everything else he touches. 

 

 

 

He was asked 10 or 11 times if he/government, were going to apologise to the nation this morning on Sky News, he didn't of course, blamed the scientists.

 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

45 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No no James, it's all the Tories fault, even though Sturgeon was in charge of the farce up here

 

Don't forget the Welsh & N. Irish as well, none of the devolved nations along with some of the scientists are coming out well in this report.

[leginten]

3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

They've wheeled out 'Brexit Hardman' Steve Barclay today to do the pressers and he's being torn limb from limb by some of the media, not the BBC, naturally. 

 

Spaffer picked a good week to go hiding in Marbella, eh?

Anyone more senior was obviously running a mile from this gig, so they wheeled out Barclay to defend the government’s handling of the pandemic - even though he glibly confessed to not actually having read the cross-party report. “It only came out at midnight.” Funny that the journalists all seemed to have managed to acquaint themselves with its content.

 

The shoddiness and callousness of sending out someone to discuss something he hadn’t read ought to be shocking, but in Tory Britain incompetence, corruption, contempt for the public and lies are so embedded in everything the government does that almost nothing retains the power to shock. After all, I guess “I haven’t actually read it” was the most obvious takeaway from the wonderful Brexit deal Johnson and Frost did.
 

I can think of countries where there would be immediate calls for the resignation of a government representative sent to discuss something with the media that he hadn’t actually read. 

[ri Alban]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

“ Happily oblivious “ ? Or “ Guliiotine” ? 😳

Gullitone.

[JudyJudyJudy]

22 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Gullitone.

😂😂

[The Mighty Thor]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

No no James, it's all the Tories fault, even though Sturgeon was in charge of the farce up here

The SAGE committee is part of the reserved powers of Westminster. The 4 nations approach was not even remotely discussed until into April. The SG set up a Covid advisory group to liaise with SAGE in late March ahead of being involved by the WM government.

 

Spaffer had the wheel or he would have if he'd bothered to attend any of the COBRA meetings to discuss the pandemic before it erupted in his face and even the he delayed by 2 weeks.

 

There's lots to criticise the SG over and it will all come out in the SG's Public Inquiry process currently underway. 

 

Westminster?

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 12 October 2021

Summary

• 1,908 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-389; down from 2,056 a week ago]
• 19,394 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-1,835]
  • 10.5% of these were positive [-0.9%]
• 27 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+27]
• 51 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-5]
• 935 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+2]
• 4,265,755 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,866,372 have received their second dose [+4,631; +1,702]

[redjambo]

The latest trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			10 Oct	9 Oct	8 Oct	7 Oct	6 Oct	...	1 Oct
Scotland	4		318	320	-2		310	305	306	308	312	...	345
Stirling	4		478	495	-17		458	413	398	382	360	...	366
West Lothian	4		465	480	-15		456	425	455	459	483	...	504
Dundee City	4		437	435	+2		440	429	417	402	391	...	427
Fife	4		408	406	+2		382	373	361	360	345	...	407
Aberdeenshire	4		403	404	-1		380	378	379	375	361	...	339
East Ayrshire	4		394	405	-11		414	403	411	377	388	...	440
Falkirk	4		379	394	-15		398	400	416	401	391	...	421
East Renfrewshire	4		375	373	+2		355	344	330	344	354	...	354
North Lanarkshire	4		371	378	-7		367	373	373	384	418	...	442
Moray	4		355	357	-2		379	374	383	369	340	...	231
North Ayrshire	4		342	341	+1		340	327	335	335	346	...	441
Scottish Borders	4		335	336	-1		317	307	308	282	275	...	188
South Lanarkshire	4		319	333	-14		320	314	324	335	364	...	382
West Dunbartonshire	4		310	314	-4		307	298	317	351	343	...	437
Renfrewshire	4		304	307	-3		298	283	270	284	313	...	371
Angus	4		301	293	+8		269	267	243	224	205	...	234
East Dunbartonshire	4		297	312	-15		318	314	333	356	368	...	382
Perth & Kinross	4		295	294	+1		265	282	276	273	258	...	304
Dumfries & Galloway	4		289	308	-19		300	301	305	307	309	...	361
Clackmannanshire	4		263	263	0		253	222	226	253	261	...	328
Aberdeen City	4		262	272	-10		267	266	259	278	285	...	292
Glasgow City	4		262	273	-11		275	279	287	294	297	...	328
East Lothian	4	214	258	246	+12		221	219	209	199	214	...	265
Inverclyde	4		258	257	+1		260	249	231	227	240	...	365
South Ayrshire	4		255	245	+10		235	223	235	265	317	...	541
Edinburgh City	4		246	231	+15		219	204	204	206	196	...	238
Midlothian	4		246	248	-2		251	252	263	263	266	...	327
Argyll & Bute	4		241	239	+2		222	224	235	238	258	...	304
Highland	4		217	207	+10		199	193	193	176	171	...	168
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3		136	132	+4		140	174	226	215	272	...	234
Shetland Islands	3		127	127	0		144	166	166	149	140	...	70
Orkney Islands	3		71	76	-5		85	80	67	63	49	...	85
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			10 Oct	9 Oct	8 Oct	7 Oct	6 Oct	...	1 Oct
Tests			32422	32702	-280		32521	32414	33156	33820	34478	...	35457
Cases			2480	2501	-21		2424	2378	2392	2401	2433	...	2694
Positivity rate %			8.2	8.2	0.0		8.0	7.8	7.7	7.6	7.6	...	8.2
Deaths			19	18	+1		18	18	18	21	20	...	19
All Vaccinations			8393	8676	-283		8848	9031	9138	8933	8498	...	6572
1st Dose			6005	6169	-164		6460	6625	6682	6482	6062	...	3705
2nd Dose			2388	2507	-119		2388	2406	2456	2451	2436	...	2867
All in hospital			953	962	-9		972	976	979	983	985	...	1009
Non-ICU			893	900	-7		908	910	912	916	917	...	935
ICU			60	62	-2		64	66	67	67	68	...	74

[Victorian]

A curious few days where most of the regions sitting low down in the table are starting to see rising numbers and more prevalent areas are declining.  All very difficult to see sustaining patterns and trends.  Overall numbers and rate staying pretty stable.

[The Real Maroonblood]

33 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			10 Oct	9 Oct	8 Oct	7 Oct	6 Oct	...	1 Oct
Scotland	4		318	320	-2		310	305	306	308	312	...	345
Stirling	4		478	495	-17		458	413	398	382	360	...	366
West Lothian	4		465	480	-15		456	425	455	459	483	...	504
Dundee City	4		437	435	+2		440	429	417	402	391	...	427
Fife	4		408	406	+2		382	373	361	360	345	...	407
Aberdeenshire	4		403	404	-1		380	378	379	375	361	...	339
East Ayrshire	4		394	405	-11		414	403	411	377	388	...	440
Falkirk	4		379	394	-15		398	400	416	401	391	...	421
East Renfrewshire	4		375	373	+2		355	344	330	344	354	...	354
North Lanarkshire	4		371	378	-7		367	373	373	384	418	...	442
Moray	4		355	357	-2		379	374	383	369	340	...	231
North Ayrshire	4		342	341	+1		340	327	335	335	346	...	441
Scottish Borders	4		335	336	-1		317	307	308	282	275	...	188
South Lanarkshire	4		319	333	-14		320	314	324	335	364	...	382
West Dunbartonshire	4		310	314	-4		307	298	317	351	343	...	437
Renfrewshire	4		304	307	-3		298	283	270	284	313	...	371
Angus	4		301	293	+8		269	267	243	224	205	...	234
East Dunbartonshire	4		297	312	-15		318	314	333	356	368	...	382
Perth & Kinross	4		295	294	+1		265	282	276	273	258	...	304
Dumfries & Galloway	4		289	308	-19		300	301	305	307	309	...	361
Clackmannanshire	4		263	263	0		253	222	226	253	261	...	328
Aberdeen City	4		262	272	-10		267	266	259	278	285	...	292
Glasgow City	4		262	273	-11		275	279	287	294	297	...	328
East Lothian	4	214	258	246	+12		221	219	209	199	214	...	265
Inverclyde	4		258	257	+1		260	249	231	227	240	...	365
South Ayrshire	4		255	245	+10		235	223	235	265	317	...	541
Edinburgh City	4		246	231	+15		219	204	204	206	196	...	238
Midlothian	4		246	248	-2		251	252	263	263	266	...	327
Argyll & Bute	4		241	239	+2		222	224	235	238	258	...	304
Highland	4		217	207	+10		199	193	193	176	171	...	168
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3		136	132	+4		140	174	226	215	272	...	234
Shetland Islands	3		127	127	0		144	166	166	149	140	...	70
Orkney Islands	3		71	76	-5		85	80	67	63	49	...	85
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			10 Oct	9 Oct	8 Oct	7 Oct	6 Oct	...	1 Oct
Tests			32422	32702	-280		32521	32414	33156	33820	34478	...	35457
Cases			2480	2501	-21		2424	2378	2392	2401	2433	...	2694
Positivity rate %			8.2	8.2	0.0		8.0	7.8	7.7	7.6	7.6	...	8.2
Deaths			19	18	+1		18	18	18	21	20	...	19
All Vaccinations			8393	8676	-283		8848	9031	9138	8933	8498	...	6572
1st Dose			6005	6169	-164		6460	6625	6682	6482	6062	...	3705
2nd Dose			2388	2507	-119		2388	2406	2456	2451	2436	...	2867
All in hospital			953	962	-9		972	976	979	983	985	...	1009
Non-ICU			893	900	-7		908	910	912	916	917	...	935
ICU			60	62	-2		64	66	67	67	68	...	74

👍

[Don Dan]

This Government now refusing to apologise from the monumental stuff ups throughout this pandemic but added that old chestnut that is well known here in Scotland, lessons will be learned. Maybe if the government had listened to and acted on the advice given by the scientists thousands of lives would have saved. 
The only thing they were good at was giving their mates multimillion pound contracts for shit products and more alarmingly contracts to mates who had never absolutely no previous experience in the anything associated with PPE. 
I think their needs to a class action taken against these incompetent charlatans to lay down a marker that any thing like this again results in jail by actually jailing them. 
Start at the top, Johnson, Handcock and any other weasel associated with this disaster. 

Edited October 12, 2021 by Boy Daniel

[joondalupjambo]

"Science Minister George Freeman has suggested that a major cause of the UK's Covid death toll was the country's high rate of obesity- related disease. But that's far from the only explanation.

BBC health correspondent Nick Triggle, data journalist Christine Jeavans and head of statistics Robert Cuffe examined the reasons back in January when the death toll was at about 100,000 - now it is over 137,000.

They found that obesity was a factor, with some studies suggesting it doubled the risk of death for an individual.

The UK also has high levels of diabetes, kidney disease and respiratory problems, all of which increase the risk of Covid. These health issues are compounded by inequality in the UK, with the pandemic exacerbating the gap in health and life expectancy between the wealthy and the poor".

 

So levelling up will help then?  Assuming levelling up means making either the poorer more better off or the wealthy becoming less wealthy and getting the less well off healthier?  How do you ever get to a stage where this levelling up can ever happen when successive Governments maintain, fuel and forever make sure a class system exists.  The only way to truly attempt to level up is to smash that system and that is never, ever, ever going to happen.

[Nucky Thompson]

24 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

This Government now refusing to apologise from the monumental stuff ups throughout this pandemic but added that old chestnut that is well known here in Scotland, lessons will be learned. Maybe if the government had listened to and acted on the advice given by the scientists thousands of lives would have saved. 
The only thing they were good at was giving their mates multimillion pound contracts for shit products and more alarmingly contracts to mates who had never absolutely no previous experience in the anything associated with PPE. 
I think their needs to a class action taken against these incompetent charlatans to lay down a marker that any thing like this again results in jail by actually jailing them. 
Start at the top, Johnson, Handcock and any other weasel associated with this disaster. 

Has Sturgeon apologised yet for killing all those old people in care homes?

 

[Nucky Thompson]

Worst waiting time performance yet from NHS Scotland

 

Scandalous Sturgeon.

 

Covid Scotland: Scotland records worst A&E waiting times performance yet | The Scotsman

 

 

 

 

[westbow]

31 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

"Science Minister George Freeman has suggested that a major cause of the UK's Covid death toll was the country's high rate of obesity- related disease. But that's far from the only explanation.

BBC health correspondent Nick Triggle, data journalist Christine Jeavans and head of statistics Robert Cuffe examined the reasons back in January when the death toll was at about 100,000 - now it is over 137,000.

They found that obesity was a factor, with some studies suggesting it doubled the risk of death for an individual.

The UK also has high levels of diabetes, kidney disease and respiratory problems, all of which increase the risk of Covid. These health issues are compounded by inequality in the UK, with the pandemic exacerbating the gap in health and life expectancy between the wealthy and the poor".

 

So levelling up will help then?  Assuming levelling up means making either the poorer more better off or the wealthy becoming less wealthy and getting the less well off healthier?  How do you ever get to a stage where this levelling up can ever happen when successive Governments maintain, fuel and forever make sure a class system exists.  The only way to truly attempt to level up is to smash that system and that is never, ever, ever going to happen.

Ok Fidel 😂. 

[Nucky Thompson]

I wonder if the victims families will get any joy when this Covid enquiry opens in Scotland?

 

I'm guessing it will be another case of memory loss and things being swept under the carpet.

 

Heads should be rolling 

[Seymour M Hersh]

21 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Has Sturgeon apologised yet for killing all those old people in care homes?

 

 

She won't apologise for the Nike conference cover up either. 

[Don Dan]

32 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Has Sturgeon apologised yet for killing all those old people in care homes?

 

No but she is learning lessons. That makes a change because she normally never takes lessons from anyone! 

[Don Dan]

36 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Has Sturgeon apologised yet for killing all those old people in care homes?

 

I believe she has apologised but won’t take the blame I suspect. 

[Footballfirst]

52 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Has Sturgeon apologised yet for killing all those old people in care homes?

 

I believe she did on an Andrew Marr show last year.  In general I think that she has been quick to express sympathy with the families of those bereaved throughout.  She has already admitted to making mistakes about care homes and said she would do things differently if faced with something similar in the future.

 

However I suspect that all  deflectors will be deployed during the public inquiry, to avoid her or her government taking direct blame for any aspect of the handling of the pandemic.

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Worst waiting time performance yet from NHS Scotland

 

Scandalous Sturgeon.

 

Covid Scotland: Scotland records worst A&E waiting times performance yet | The Scotsman

 

 

 

 

Shameful 

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I wonder if the victims families will get any joy when this Covid enquiry opens in Scotland?

 

I'm guessing it will be another case of memory loss and things being swept under the carpet.

 

Heads should be rolling 

No it’ll be a massive cover up as usual 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Worst waiting time performance yet from NHS Scotland

 

Scandalous Sturgeon.

 

Covid Scotland: Scotland records worst A&E waiting times performance yet | The Scotsman

 

 

 

 

Shameful 

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I wonder if the victims families will get any joy when this Covid enquiry opens in Scotland?

 

I'm guessing it will be another case of memory loss and things being swept under the carpet.

 

Heads should be rolling 

No it’ll be a massive cover up as usual 

[joondalupjambo]

2 hours ago, westbow said:

Ok Fidel 😂. 

We'll keep the Red Flag flying high😃😃😃

[Boab]

Never mind accountability over the handling of the pandemic, Matt Hancock has just been given a job as Special Representative for the UN.

His role is to help Africa recover from COVID !

 

I shit you not !

[Don Dan]

Failure are all round ersehole lands a job for the boys. They have no shame. 
 

https://apple.news/AmI2xhFq9QH-ogpM4sW9s6A

[The Mighty Thor]

8 hours ago, Boab said:

Never mind accountability over the handling of the pandemic, Matt Hancock has just been given a job as Special Representative for the UN.

His role is to help Africa recover from COVID !

 

I shit you not !

His mates will be rubbing their hands at the prospect of winning tenders to supply unfit goods to the UN at vastly over inflated prices.

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 hours ago, Boab said:

Never mind accountability over the handling of the pandemic, Matt Hancock has just been given a job as Special Representative for the UN.

His role is to help Africa recover from COVID !

 

I shit you not !

I actually thought that was a spoof headline when I read it online last night , like the  “ Daily mash” , incredible to think it isn’t . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 hours ago, Boab said:

Never mind accountability over the handling of the pandemic, Matt Hancock has just been given a job as Special Representative for the UN.

His role is to help Africa recover from COVID !

 

I shit you not !

Double posting 

Edited October 13, 2021 by JamesM48

[Boab]

33 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

I actually thought that was a spoof headline when I read it online last night , like the  “ Daily mash” , incredible to think it isn’t . 

Some of these appointments put the Mash of out business.

Like when they appointed Tony Blair the Middle East Envoy !

😟

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Boab said:

Some of these appointments put the Mash of out business.

Like when they appointed Tony Blair the Middle East Envoy !

😟

I know he would cause trouble in an empty house that war mongerer ! 😎

[Ray Gin]

12 hours ago, Boab said:

Never mind accountability over the handling of the pandemic, Matt Hancock has just been given a job as Special Representative for the UN.

His role is to help Africa recover from COVID !

 

I shit you not !

 

Perfect fit when you consider how rife government corruption is in many African countries.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

worth bearing in mind that this report only covers the initial phase of the pandemic.

 

It doesn't cover Spaffer's other greatest hits;

Not closing the Air borders at all

Sending the schools and Uni students back without mitigations

The autumn lockdown

The hokey cokey Christmas meet the family don't meet the family nonsense

and of course his finest hour, the late lockdown which resulted in 3 times the deaths from Jan - March