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Seymour M Hersh Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, HartleyLegend3 said: Hancock has been hopeless so it's no surprise he won't back him. But yet again more gotcha journalism from that boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Hancock has been hopeless so it's no surprise he won't back him. But yet again more gotcha journalism from that boot. Lol gotcha journalism, whenever a question is difficult or inconvenient to answer it's gotcha journalism according to the right.# That's their job, to ask questions, unexpected questions, questions that are awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Smithee said: Lol gotcha journalism, whenever a question is difficult or inconvenient to answer it's gotcha journalism according to the right.# That's their job, to ask questions, unexpected questions, questions that are awkward. The sort of questions that , if asked of the SNP in Scotland, would bring the tartan clad hate mob out to protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Hancock has been hopeless so it's no surprise he won't back him. But yet again more gotcha journalism from that boot. Even Hancock didn't seem entirely sure when he was asked the same question. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, fancy a brew said: Even Hancock didn't seem entirely sure when he was asked the same question. 😆 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The sort of questions that , if asked of the SNP in Scotland, would bring the tartan clad hate mob out to protest. I don't know about that, but it certainly brings out the right wing radges when asked of the head of the NHS about his boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I think that a bit unfair on the guy. Its a political question and he will require to be partisan when representing the NHS. Yet it still gets broadcast. That said its clear as day Hancock is and has been incompetent from the start to finish of this crisis. Unlike, other I also believe he is doing his best and probably well intentioned, I just think he is hopelessly out his depth and fundamentally incompetent. I think he may well be hung out to dry by the tories in the not to distant future. They will use fall guys as part of a larger strategy of winning next election. I think he’s probably a dead man walking politically, within his own party. Asking the head of the NHS if he believes the health secretary is competent during a pandemic is surely the most reasonable thing in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: Asking the head of the NHS if he believes the health secretary is competent during a pandemic is surely the most reasonable thing in the world. Not if you understand how the separation between civil service and government is supposed to work. Edited June 18, 2021 by Governor Tarkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Smithee said: I don't know about that, but it certainly brings out the right wing radges when asked of the head of the NHS about his boss. You expect him to publicly call his boss hopeless ? 😳😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The sort of questions that , if asked of the SNP in Scotland, would bring the tartan clad hate mob out to protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Not if you understand how the separation between civil service and government is supposed to work. If he'd said "yeah I have full confidence in him" would there have been an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dazo said: You expect him to publicly call his boss hopeless ? 😳😂 I'd expect him to say he had confidence in him if he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Smithee said: I'd expect him to say he had confidence in him if he did And if he didn’t ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Dazo said: And if he didn’t ? Well we saw that for ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Smithee said: Well we saw that for ourselves. Exactly, So the questioning wasn’t that reasonable then as it’s pretty clear Hancock has been hopeless. Leading with asking him if his boss is hopeless is pretty shit journalism looking for a bite. Reasonable or hard/tough question is isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Smithee said: If he'd said "yeah I have full confidence in him" would there have been an issue? Despite the fact that not a soul alive would've believed him, yes there would be an issue with it, and it would have been dealt with internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dazo said: Exactly, So the questioning wasn’t that reasonable then as it’s pretty clear Hancock has been hopeless. Leading with asking him if his boss is hopeless is pretty shit journalism looking for a bite. Reasonable or hard/tough question is isn’t. Journalists shouldn't ask questions when it's obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: Despite the fact that not a soul alive would've believed him, yes there would be an issue with it, and it would have been dealt with internally. I doubt that very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Smithee said: Journalists shouldn't ask questions when it's obvious? Yeah that’s what I said. 🙄 You said it was a reasonable question, when its rhetorical and could involve you losing your job I disagree. Enjoy your day Smithee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Dazo said: Yeah that’s what I said. 🙄 You said it was a reasonable question, when its rhetorical and could involve you losing your job I disagree. Enjoy your day Smithee " the questioning wasn’t that reasonable then as it’s pretty clear Hancock has been hopeless" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Smithee said: " the questioning wasn’t that reasonable then as it’s pretty clear Hancock has been hopeless" Unreasonable and rhetorical then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Lord BJ said: I answered in my second sentence 🤷🏻♂️ It wasn't a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Matt Hancock should be punished in a bad way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Of course Matt Hancock is hopeless but a senior civil servant is absolutely prohibited to answer that question. Whether he answers yes or no it would be overtly political. For me there is nothing more to it than that. Hardly anyone has come out of this shambles well politically except Nadhim Zahawi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Brighton Jambo said: Of course Matt Hancock is hopeless but a senior civil servant is absolutely prohibited to answer that question. Whether he answers yes or no it would be overtly political. For me there is nothing more to it than that. Hardly anyone has come out of this shambles well politically except Nadhim Zahawi Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Barack said: He does though. His wife dresses up as Nanny on the weekend. Imagine Prince John from Robin Hood, the cartoon movie, meets Kevin Bacon from Animal House...there you go...! That is a glimpse into a dark and warped mind…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: Of course Matt Hancock is hopeless but a senior civil servant is absolutely prohibited to answer that question. Whether he answers yes or no it would be overtly political. For me there is nothing more to it than that. Hardly anyone has come out of this shambles well politically except Nadhim Zahawi Does that mean a journalist is prohibited from asking it? The question was asked, the guy didn't answer, yet we all heard his answer. The journalist has done their job here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Barack said: He does though. His wife dresses up as Nanny on the weekend. Imagine Prince John from Robin Hood, the cartoon movie, meets Kevin Bacon from Animal House...there you go...! 😀 thats bad enough ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Barack said: He does though. His wife dresses up as Nanny on the weekend. Imagine Prince John from Robin Hood, the cartoon movie, meets Kevin Bacon from Animal House...there you go...! She's a ginger. Would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Smithee said: I don't know about that, but it certainly brings out the right wing radges when asked of the head of the NHS about his boss. We need far more right wing radges imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said: We need far more right wing radges imo It’s called our Government Enzo. Endless supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Ok my second stated why it wasn’t the most reasonable question, or at least a question that couldn’t be answered. I'd say he answered it pretty clearly myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Enzo Chiefo said: We need far more right wing radges imo Anything to the starboard side of Trotsky is a right wing radge in smithee's book, Enzo. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: Notinghill carnival canceled That'll relieve the pressure on the NHS a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Anything to the starboard side of Trotsky is a right wing radge in smithee's book, Enzo. 🤷♂️ 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Anything to the starboard side of Trotsky is a right wing radge in smithee's book, Enzo. 🤷♂️ Think I should just about qualify then Guv👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Barack said: And that you knew exactly what I was referring to, means I welcome you into Donnie Darko territory. It’s a mad world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord BJ said: Notinghill carnival canceled They can all get down to Leicester Square/Hyde Park where there's currently a carnival in full swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Anyone know why NS has a daily briefing today ? I thought these were only scheduled for “ exceptional “ statements of some sort ? Maybe people enjoying themselves too much due to the Euros so mama Nicky reeling us in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Does that mean a journalist is prohibited from asking it? The question was asked, the guy didn't answer, yet we all heard his answer. The journalist has done their job here. He didn’t answer anything because if he said either yes or no there’s every chance he would lose his job. why are you taking about the journalist to me, I never mentioned her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Anyone know why NS has a daily briefing today ? I thought these were only scheduled for “ exceptional “ statements of some sort ? Maybe people enjoying themselves too much due to the Euros so mama Nicky reeling us in ? https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/what-time-nicola-sturgeons-update-today-when-first-minister-will-speak-about-phase-two-scotlands-lockdown-and-how-watch-2887906 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/what-time-nicola-sturgeons-update-today-when-first-minister-will-speak-about-phase-two-scotlands-lockdown-and-how-watch-2887906 Is that not last year, Red?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Is that not last year, Red?? Is it . Although one would think it is today as it’s all blended into one really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, redjambo said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/what-time-nicola-sturgeons-update-today-when-first-minister-will-speak-about-phase-two-scotlands-lockdown-and-how-watch-2887906 Hope your ok Red ? Not like you to make an error with docs / stats / etc 👍😎🏴Or maybe it was a clever trick to see if I would notice it ? Check my comprehension skills 😂😂 or how daft I am 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: He didn’t answer anything because if he said either yes or no there’s every chance he would lose his job. why are you taking about the journalist to me, I never mentioned her? Because that's what I was talking about, whether the journalist was it of order adding the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Governor Tarkin said: Anything to the starboard side of Trotsky is a right wing radge in smithee's book, Enzo. 🤷♂️ Feed em to the pigs I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord BJ said: I would say he never answered it by virtue of not giving an answer.......😃 Yet we're all pretty clear on whether he thinks Hat Mancock is competent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Smithee said: Feed em to the pigs I say “Four legs good, two legs better! All Animals Are Equal. But Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others.” Eh Napoleon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: i think everyone in the country, with the possible exception of his immediate family, think he’s incompetent. To be fair to him he had a thankless task really ! First time any Head of the NHS has had to deal with a pandemic . A real one at that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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