Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Byyy The Light said:

 

I honestly wouldn't bother. Although probably more entertaining than the game 

LIke i said ill read it later. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

8 hours ago, Barack said:

Pretty much where I'm at. Europe's inadequate response has swung it for me. And probably most.

 

So, instead of Cyprus in September, it's Scotland to see the parents.

 

And instead of New York in November, it's now just...York, for her 40th. Which I'm actually looking forward too, as I've never been.

 

Do the holidays next year.

York is class. Loads of decent pubs and restaurants. The Shambles are great to walk round and loads of stuff to see. Lot easier travel as well, with no security checks and unlimited luggage. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

York is class. Loads of decent pubs and restaurants. The Shambles are great to walk round and loads of stuff to see. Lot easier travel as well, with no security checks and unlimited luggage. 

The pubs there are fantastic.

Have you ever visited the Bluebell?

[A Boy Named Crow]

16 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

The African Union announced on Wednesday that they had ditched plans to buy the AZ/Oxford vaccine because of fears over possible blood clots, they are buying the Johnson & Johnson vaccine instead..................oops.

 

Seriously though, I wouldn't think this is going to do much for public confidence.

Australia have said only the over 50s should get the AZ, younger than 50, the blood clot risk is too high. 

 

You can see why they did it, Britain is an absolute basket case with this virus, but it has obviously been rushed through, with problems like this only coming out as more people get the jab. 

 

Just another reason you should all be taking to the streets, demanding government heads to roll. The government  / media have done a cracking job of convincing folk that this situation was unavoidable, inevitable though...and so it goes on

[manaliveits105]

yeah we should have taken our time and let a few more thousand people die rather than take a chance and Sturgeon has to go for allowing the vaccination to continue 

[Ray Gin]

22 hours ago, heartstastic said:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/a-very-convenient-pandemic/

 

 

[Ray Gin]

1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

yeah we should have taken our time and let a few more thousand people die rather than take a chance and Sturgeon has to go for allowing the vaccination to continue 

 

We should have thousands of people die instead of 19.

[DETTY29]

Intriguing what will happen with under 30s in UK.

 

Is it offered an alternative to AZ or offered the option of an alternative to AZ?

 

I.E All AZ centres will now have to store an alternative or all u30s sent to a Pfizer, Modena centre?

Edited April 10, 2021 by DETTY29

[3fingersreid]

What’s the law ?

neighbours house is empty , she’s in a home . 
In the past her granddaughter stayed there but moved up north . 
The last few days the granddaughter is back but so is extended family , 4 other adults who are all up from England . Is this “ bending” the law or is it legal ? 

[A Boy Named Crow]

2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

yeah we should have taken our time and let a few more thousand people die rather than take a chance and Sturgeon has to go for allowing the vaccination to continue 

No, the border should've been shut early, lockdowns and contact tracing done properly, PCE bought from reputable suppliers etc. Then you wouldn't have had to rush out the AZ vaccine. 

 

That is why you should be raging. 

Edited April 10, 2021 by A Boy Named Crow

[Jambo-Jimbo]

3 hours ago, A Boy Named Crow said:

Australia have said only the over 50s should get the AZ, younger than 50, the blood clot risk is too high. 

 

You can see why they did it, Britain is an absolute basket case with this virus, but it has obviously been rushed through, with problems like this only coming out as more people get the jab. 

 

Just another reason you should all be taking to the streets, demanding government heads to roll. The government  / media have done a cracking job of convincing folk that this situation was unavoidable, inevitable though...and so it goes on

 

Clinical trials no matter how long they are for don't pick up every side effect, it's only when a drug is given to the mass public that some problems, not seen in the trials start to be seen.

 

As for taking to the streets, I'm looking for my pitchfork & torch later this afternoon.

 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 10 April 2021

Summary

• 281 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-4; down from 397 a week ago]
• 22,183 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.5% of these were positive [+1,463; -0.1%]
• 4 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-2]
• 2,643,524  people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and  551,699 have received their second dose [+17,947; +26,887]

[redjambo]

Limited trend stats today:

 

			Today	Yesterday			8 Apr	7 Apr	6 Apr	5 Apr	4 Apr	...	1 Apr
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			38	40	-2		42	43	48	50	52	...	59
7-day averages
Tests			18769	18680	+89		19123	19033	19898	20355	20509	...	21722
Positivity rate %			1.8	1.9	-0.1		2.0	2.0	2.1	2.2	2.3	...	2.4
Deaths			2	2	0		1	2	3	4	4	...	5
All Vaccinations			32056	31443	+613		30974	36478	38108	40795	43838	...	49063
1st Dose			15376	15690	-314		16501	18695	20203	22208	24018	...	29659
2nd Dose			16680	15753	+927		14473	17783	17905	18587	19820	...	19404

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, redjambo said:

Limited trend stats today:

 

			Today	Yesterday			8 Apr	7 Apr	6 Apr	5 Apr	4 Apr	...	1 Apr
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			38	40	-2		42	43	48	50	52	...	59
7-day averages
Tests			18769	18680	+89		19123	19033	19898	20355	20509	...	21722
Positivity rate %			1.8	1.9	-0.1		2.0	2.0	2.1	2.2	2.3	...	2.4
Deaths			2	2	0		1	2	3	4	4	...	5
All Vaccinations			32056	31443	+613		30974	36478	38108	40795	43838	...	49063
1st Dose			15376	15690	-314		16501	18695	20203	22208	24018	...	29659
2nd Dose			16680	15753	+927		14473	17783	17905	18587	19820	...	19404

👍

[redjambo]

For any other stat monkeys out there, although the SG are indicating on the main stat page https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/ that they are only publishing basic data at weekends now, the breakdown by council spreadsheet for today was still published at https://www.opendata.nhs.scot/dataset/covid-19-in-scotland. I don't touch any of the rest of the data so don't know how many of the other spreadsheets on that page were updated today. Anyway, if this isn't a one-off occurrence and the per-council spreadsheet continues to be published at weekends then that will mean less data breaks in the trend stats posted here (the only missing data amongst the info will be the hospitalisation figures at weekends).

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

For any other stat monkeys out there, although the SG are indicating on the main stat page https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/ that they are only publishing basic data at weekends now, the breakdown by council spreadsheet for today was still published at https://www.opendata.nhs.scot/dataset/covid-19-in-scotland. I don't touch any of the rest of the data so don't know how many of the other spreadsheets on that page were updated today. Anyway, if this isn't a one-off occurrence and the per-council spreadsheet continues to be published at weekends then that will mean less data breaks in the trend stats posted here (the only missing data amongst the info will be the hospitalisation figures at weekends).

I’ll just keep to your input red as it’s easier to follow.

[redjambo]

2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

I’ll just keep to your input red as it’s easier to follow.

 

No problem, TRM. It was just great to see that this data was actually published today and I wanted to take the opportunity to delight in ramming it down the throats of those who thought the stats posted here would be severely disrupted.

 

In future years, folk will read the sentence above and, not getting the context, will think "What a rude bar steward redjambo is!", to which my riposte will be that I was merely implementing "Robbie diplomacy".

[The Real Maroonblood]

10 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

No problem, TRM. It was just great to see that this data was actually published today and I wanted to take the opportunity to delight in ramming it down the throats of those who thought the stats posted here would be severely disrupted.

 

In future years, folk will read the sentence above and, not getting the context, will think "What a rude bar steward redjambo is!", to which my riposte will be that I was merely implementing "Robbie diplomacy".

[ri Alban]

3 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

We should have thousands of people die instead of 19.

I don't get this thinking. You think people dying from blood clots are acceptable. They've known for some time this would happen and now it's coming to the people that the virus isn't a threat to and they need to come clean. (All of a sudden nearly 100 folk have been fecked by a rare??? blood clot, aye right) This blood clot  is different and more dangerous than the clots folk like to compare it to. 

 

 

Anyway back to the mindset where its OK for young folk with no chance of dying from Covid have to take the vaccine (Which isn't a vaccine) so old ***** can live for another couple weeks/months/years.

👍

 

Oh and I've had my 1st dose of the pure Coronavirus  and will take the second dose. 

Edited April 10, 2021 by ri Alban

[Ray Gin]

2 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

I don't get this thinking. You think people dying from blood clots are acceptable. They've known for some time this would happen and now it's coming to the people who that the virus isn't a threat to, they need to come clean. (All of a sudden nearly 100 folk have been fecked by a rare??? blood clot) A blood clot which is different and more dangerous than the clots flok like to compare it to. 

 

 

Anyway back to the mindset where its OK for young folk with no chance of dying from Covid have to take the vaccine (Which isn't a vaccine) so old ***** can live for another couple weeks/months/years.

👍

 

Oh and I've had my 1st dose of the pure Coronavirus  and will take the second dose. 

 

You don't get that thousands of people dying is worse than 19 people dying?

 

[DETTY29]

21 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

I don't get this thinking. You think people dying from blood clots are acceptable. They've known for some time this would happen and now it's coming to the people that the virus isn't a threat to and they need to come clean. (All of a sudden nearly 100 folk have been fecked by a rare??? blood clot, aye right) This blood clot  is different and more dangerous than the clots folk like to compare it to. 

 

 

Anyway back to the mindset where its OK for young folk with no chance of dying from Covid have to take the vaccine (Which isn't a vaccine) so old ***** can live for another couple weeks/months/years.

👍

 

Oh and I've had my 1st dose of the pure Coronavirus  and will take the second dose. 

I heard on the radio that Israel had to have a campaign to get far more younger folk to get vaccinated because the virus that was there was focusing on them leading to more cases, hospitalisation, ICU take up, long covid and deaths among their demographic.

Edited April 10, 2021 by DETTY29

[ri Alban]

Personally, I don't want anyone to die, from either covid or the vaccine. But if its a game of who's who I the deadpool, I'll take the coffin dodgers every time, before the young team. 

[Ray Gin]

19 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Thousands of under 30’s aren’t dieing of COVID. The JCVI view the risk of the under 30’s dieing from blood clots as similar to dieing of COVID. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
 

Other countries view that risk tipping point of COVID and blood clots differently. Aus under 50’s, and variety of age barriers 55 and 60 in EU, I think. 
 

Thankfully the risk of dieing to that age group(s) is very low of COVID or blood clots.  At no point should a vaccine potentially take out more than it saves the regulatory boards in various countries feel that is at a concern.

 

This is regulatory bodies and experts making these decisions. 

 

Agreed. My original post was replying to manaliveits95 saying we should have let a few thousand more people die instead of dishing out the vaccine.

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, redjambo said:

 

No problem, TRM. It was just great to see that this data was actually published today and I wanted to take the opportunity to delight in ramming it down the throats of those who thought the stats posted here would be severely disrupted.

 

In future years, folk will read the sentence above and, not getting the context, will think "What a rude bar steward redjambo is!", to which my riposte will be that I was merely implementing "Robbie diplomacy".

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

Vaccine passports apparently being used as a "bridge to freedom" until full herd immunity is achieved in the autumn. Apparently the Govt expect this to be in October so using passports will allow capacity crowds in stadia for the start of the season in August. Good news.

[Nucky Thompson]

Only 26 positive cases in the Lothians yesterday.

Half the number of Lanarkshire and only a third of the number in greater Glasgow.

You just know that we're going to get shafted when we go back to the stupid tier system

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 11 April 2021

Summary

• 250 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-31; down from 343 a week ago]
• 15,916 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 1.8% of these were positive [-6,267; +0.3%]
• 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [-4]
• 2,657,578 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 568,875 have received their second dose [+14,054; +17,176]

[Jambof3tornado]

Pleasing to see hospital numbers for covid down.

 

Vaccination needs to continue for us to maintain any sort of normal.

 

Still think another wave will come in the winter but won't result in large numbers of hospital admissions.

 

International travel is going to cause issues.

[redjambo]

Today's trend stats:

 

			Today	Yesterday			9 Apr	8 Apr	7 Apr	6 Apr	5 Apr	...	1 Apr
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			36	38	-2		40	42	43	48	50	...	59
7-day averages
Tests			19019	18769	+250		18680	19123	19033	19898	20355	...	21722
Positivity rate %			1.7	1.8	-0.1		1.9	2.0	2.0	2.1	2.2	...	2.4
Deaths			2	2	0		2	1	2	3	4	...	5
All Vaccinations			31651	32056	-405		31443	30974	36478	38108	40795	...	49063
1st Dose			14820	15376	-556		15690	16501	18695	20203	22208	...	29659
2nd Dose			16831	16680	+151		15753	14473	17783	17905	18587	...	19404

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Only 26 positive cases in the Lothians yesterday.

Half the number of Lanarkshire and only a third of the number in greater Glasgow.

You just know that we're going to get shafted when we go back to the stupid tier system

😭

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, redjambo said:

Today's trend stats:

 

			Today	Yesterday			9 Apr	8 Apr	7 Apr	6 Apr	5 Apr	...	1 Apr
Scotland (7-day per-100,000 cases)			36	38	-2		40	42	43	48	50	...	59
7-day averages
Tests			19019	18769	+250		18680	19123	19033	19898	20355	...	21722
Positivity rate %			1.7	1.8	-0.1		1.9	2.0	2.0	2.1	2.2	...	2.4
Deaths			2	2	0		2	1	2	3	4	...	5
All Vaccinations			31651	32056	-405		31443	30974	36478	38108	40795	...	49063
1st Dose			14820	15376	-556		15690	16501	18695	20203	22208	...	29659
2nd Dose			16831	16680	+151		15753	14473	17783	17905	18587	...	19404

👍

[Nucky Thompson]

1730 new positive cases in the UK and 7 deaths reported, the lowest in 7 months.

 

Over 450,000 people got their 2nd dose yesterday

[Enzo Chiefo]

17 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

1730 new positive cases in the UK and 7 deaths reported, the lowest in 7 months.

 

Over 450,000 people got their 2nd dose yesterday

👍. Great news. This virus is getting booted off the premises. Fantastic vaccination figures. 

[Jambo-Jimbo]

10 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

1730 new positive cases in the UK and 7 deaths reported, the lowest in 7 months.

 

Over 450,000 people got their 2nd dose yesterday

 

475,230 to be exact, which is a new record high and the 4th day in a row that there has been over 400,000 second doses administered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56709870

 

This is an outstanding achievement, especially when, remember the French foreign minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said that the UK would struggle to fully vaccinate people. M Drian should be more concerned with his own country, as France has only fully vaccinated just over 3.5 million compared to the UK which has fully vaccinated over double of French at almost 7.5 million.  First dose difference is even worse, with the UK adminstering over 3 times as many first doses as the French have, with France administering some 10.5 million first doses, compared to the UK's over 32 million.

https://www.sortiraparis.com/news/in-paris/articles/239732-vaccination-in-france-how-many-people-are-vaccinated-as-of-datacovid-confirmedfr/lang/en

 

We all know the UK has done an absolutely wonderful job in our vaccine roll-out, however it highlights it all the more, when you see the figures.

 

[CJGJ]

Shock horror the Chinese vaccine is not really up to standard

 

Of course the Russian version is shock horror not being released with results

 

2 major superpowers who put pride before the health of the nation

 

Of course the fact that they are not democracies is just coincidental.

[ri Alban]

Lockdown is bringing down the numbers. We've yet to find out if the vaccine keeps it down. 

 

We'll find out very soon, this winter. 

[CJGJ]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

Lockdown is bringing down the numbers. We've yet to find out if the vaccine keeps it down. 

 

We'll find out very soon, this winter. 

Lockdown helps but the vaccine is the main reason for a reduction of figures

 

To think otherwise is just stupidity

[Enzo Chiefo]

Just now, ri Alban said:

Lockdown is bringing down the numbers. We've yet to find out if the vaccine keeps it down. 

 

We'll find out very soon, this winter. 

I disagree rA. Lockdown,  certainly outdoors, has been finished for weeks. Schools are back, supermarkets are packed as they have been throughout and more and more folk are back in the office. The vaccine is what is making the difference in terms of breaking transmission chains and hospitalisations. 

[kila]

I hope vaccination passports mean we don't need to bother with face masks in closed events such as football. **** having the two doses and being exclusively surrounded by others who also have but still needing to wear a face mask.

 

[Nucky Thompson]

3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

I disagree rA. Lockdown,  certainly outdoors, has been finished for weeks. Schools are back, supermarkets are packed as they have been throughout and more and more folk are back in the office. The vaccine is what is making the difference in terms of breaking transmission chains and hospitalisations. 

I think some folk would actually start crying if the government announced that there was no need for restrictions anymore.

And I don't mean tears of joy

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Only 26 positive cases in the Lothians yesterday.

Half the number of Lanarkshire and only a third of the number in greater Glasgow.

You just know that we're going to get shafted when we go back to the stupid tier system

26 infections out of a population of over half a million.  Its hard to beleive that everything is still shut down. But another couple weeks. Keep us in our place i suppose. 

24 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Lockdown is bringing down the numbers. We've yet to find out if the vaccine keeps it down. 

 

We'll find out very soon, this winter. 

" This winter"...we arent even in summer yet ! 

22 minutes ago, CJGJ said:

Lockdown helps but the vaccine is the main reason for a reduction of figures

 

To think otherwise is just stupidity

Its clear the vaccine has worked wonders with the death rate. 

18 minutes ago, kila said:

I hope vaccination passports mean we don't need to bother with face masks in closed events such as football. **** having the two doses and being exclusively surrounded by others who also have but still needing to wear a face mask.

 

I would assume you would sorry I would not be wearing any mask at any outdoor event. I never wear a mask outside and no one really should. Its f***** ludicious.  

14 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I think some folk would actually start crying if the government announced that there was no need for restrictions anymore.

And I don't mean tears of joy

Yes Nucky " stockholm syndrome" has got to a high percentage of the population. I nearly gret the other day when a saw a family walking along Princes street. Mum and dad and two kids. The kids must have been 4 and 6 and both had masks on.  Really sad.  Thank god my family members and most of my sensible friends would never do this to their children. 

[Victorian]

Epidemiologists find it difficult to separate out the contributions caused by certain drivers of rising incidence operating in parallel.  They find it equally as difficult to separate out the contributions of infection suppression factors.  What seems obvious is that the shrinkage of the epidemic was mostly due to social distancing while the vaccination levels were low at the beginning.  That as time goes on an the vaccination numbers have increased to very high levels,  that the shrinking epidemic has more and more to do with vaccinations.  I highly doubt that any of us have the first idea about how much the current progress is attributed to the two things.  Don't forget that not much has been unlocked yet.

 

When much more is unlocked,  we'll probably get a better idea of how the two suppression factors contribute.

[ri Alban]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

26 infections out of a population of over half a million.  Its hard to beleive that everything is still shut down. But another couple weeks. Keep us in our place i suppose. 

" This winter"...we arent even in summer yet ! 

Its clear the vaccine has worked wonders with the death rate. 

I would assume you would sorry I would not be wearing any mask at any outdoor event. I never wear a mask outside and no one really should. Its f***** ludicious.  

Yes Nucky " stockholm syndrome" has got to a high percentage of the population. I nearly gret the other day when a saw a family walking along Princes street. Mum and dad and two kids. The kids must have been 4 and 6 and both had masks on.  Really sad.  Thank god my family members and most of my sensible friends would never do this to their children. 

Better weather seems to keep it at a distance, James. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, ri Alban said:

Better weather seems to keep it at a distance, James. 

seasonal ? like the flu then ? quell surprise.  

 

[Justin Z]

4 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Better weather seems to keep it at a distance, James. 

 

I know it's fun to pull completely baseless things entirely out of your arse, but consider taking a day off, eh?

[ri Alban]

2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

seasonal ? like the flu then ? quell surprise.  

 

Does it matter. If your over 50 and you get this, it'll feck you up regardless of when you get it.

[ri Alban]

1 minute ago, Justin Z said:

 

I know it's fun to pull completely baseless things entirely out of your arse, but consider taking a day off, eh?

From June til December Scotland had 2500 deaths. Now its 7500. How's that. 

 

 

 

Oh and mind you used have an Atlantic ocean as a buffer for your posts. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, Justin Z said:

 

I know it's fun to pull completely baseless things entirely out of your arse, but consider taking a day off, eh?

😂

4 minutes ago, ri Alban said:

Does it matter. If your over 50 and you get this, it'll feck you up regardless of when you get it.

You have been resting too much media crap or watchin the doom laden bbc ! I think even of over 50 the chances of dying of it are very very low unless your 99 and 99 stone ! Dint take my word for it even Mr Whitty agrees 

[XB52]

11 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

26 infections out of a population of over half a million.  Its hard to beleive that everything is still shut down. But another couple weeks. Keep us in our place i suppose. 

" This winter"...we arent even in summer yet ! 

Its clear the vaccine has worked wonders with the death rate. 

I would assume you would sorry I would not be wearing any mask at any outdoor event. I never wear a mask outside and no one really should. Its f***** ludicious.  

Yes Nucky " stockholm syndrome" has got to a high percentage of the population. I nearly gret the other day when a saw a family walking along Princes street. Mum and dad and two kids. The kids must have been 4 and 6 and both had masks on.  Really sad.  Thank god my family members and most of my sensible friends would never do this to their children. 

Sensible parents making you greet? Thank god that the vast majority of the population were sensible like them

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, XB52 said:

Sensible parents making you greet? Thank god that the vast majority of the population were sensible like them

Outside !!! Are u bonkers ?