Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[manaliveits105]

three quarters of GPs supplied or in the course of getting supplied - says Sturgeon 

what does that even mean ?

and how long for the other quarter in the postcode lottery 

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, DETTY29 said:

No.

 

I'm holding an offline copy of the removed Scottish Vaccination plan that breaks down the tiers.

 

But I don't want MI5 or MI6 or whoever knocking my door down by releasing in full.  I'll try and find updated pack.  I don't find the SG website that user friendly.  

 

 

I 

 

Detty unable to finish his last sentence before being dragged kicking and screaming from his house by secret service agents, with only enough time to reach back and desperately hit the Enter key as they drag him out.

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 20 January 2021

Summary

• 1,656 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+491]
• 25,476 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 7.5% of these were positive [+12,283; -3.6%]
• 92 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+21]
• 156 people are in intensive care with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+6]
• 2,003 people are in hospital with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+14]
• 309,909 people have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccination and 4,170 have received their second dose [+25,327; +284]

[DETTY29]

Just now, redjambo said:

 

Detty unable to finish his last sentence before being dragged kicking and screaming from his house by secret service agents, with only enough time to reach back and desperately hit the Enter key as they drag him out.

It's a cock of old bull that the supply data has been removed in national interest.

 

Let's get all 4 nations high level prioritisation, supplies planning assumptions, demographics up so we can properly compare 

 

I've got little else to do just now.

[Dazo]

5 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

three quarters of GPs supplied or in the course of getting supplied - says Sturgeon 

what does that even mean ?

and how long for the other quarter in the postcode lottery 

It means she’s shrewd apparently. 
 

Does she ever tell the truth about anything ?  

[DETTY29]

Travelling Taby now breaking diwn vaccine data.

 

 

[redjambo]

The latest 7-day per-capita case rates around the councils, based on reporting date:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Previous	Today	Yesterday			18 Jan	17 Jan	16 Jan	15 Jan	14 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			204	209	-5		222	229	239	240	245	...	98
Renfrewshire	4	3	310	294	+16		306	314	328	324	323	...	116
Glasgow City	4	3	303	314	-11		344	360	365	363	374	...	129
North Lanarkshire	4	3	291	303	-12		327	342	352	357	362	...	119
Clackmannanshire	4	3	283	281	+2		277	270	264	264	233	...	148
Inverclyde	4	2	276	284	-8		290	294	342	370	389	...	59
North Ayrshire	4	3	274	266	+8		289	300	305	289	304	...	175
East Ayrshire	4	3	262	260	+2		275	283	293	276	269	...	153
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	252	272	-20		273	287	297	305	286	...	70
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	247	255	-8		279	289	314	297	322	...	32
South Lanarkshire	4	3	245	264	-19		271	274	280	278	289	...	120
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	237	246	-9		246	259	272	277	272	...	120
Aberdeen City	4	3	223	226	-3		244	244	257	257	254	...	163
Falkirk	4	2	223	211	+12		227	239	239	231	232	...	60
South Ayrshire	4	3	223	228	-5		244	246	241	226	218	...	98
Dundee City	4	3	210	228	-18		235	237	256	261	273	...	113
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	1	180	165	+15		157	105	105	52	56	...	22
East Renfrewshire	4	3	179	185	-6		208	204	201	203	204	...	101
Angus	4	2	167	158	+9		158	170	182	176	176	...	37
Perth and Kinross	4	3	159	158	+1		168	184	217	222	236	...	126
Fife	4	3	157	169	-12		175	177	189	196	199	...	97
Stirling	4	3	151	151	0		148	146	150	138	141	...	70
Aberdeenshire	4	3	137	140	-3		152	156	158	174	186	...	88
Moray	4	1	137	125	+12		105	101	120	118	120	...	13
Scottish Borders	4	1	137	138	-1		164	171	197	213	209	...	85
West Lothian	4	3	135	143	-8		156	155	159	166	151	...	83
Edinburgh City	4	3	130	136	-6		147	150	162	170	171	...	109
East Lothian	4	3	126	124	+2		121	112	105	99	93	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	122	117	+5		114	109	117	127	119	...	136
Highland Toffee	4/3	1	120	125	-5		136	154	165	184	174	...	17
Shetland Islands	3	1	79	79	0		87	74	74	83	74	...	0
Argyll and Bute	4/3	2	62	64	-2		75	89	90	86	85	...	29
Orkney Islands	3	1	36	27	+9		18	13	13	18	18	...	0

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day per-capita case rates around the councils, based on reporting date:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Previous	Today	Yesterday			18 Jan	17 Jan	16 Jan	15 Jan	14 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			204	209	-5		222	229	239	240	245	...	98
Renfrewshire	4	3	310	294	+16		306	314	328	324	323	...	116
Glasgow City	4	3	303	314	-11		344	360	365	363	374	...	129
North Lanarkshire	4	3	291	303	-12		327	342	352	357	362	...	119
Clackmannanshire	4	3	283	281	+2		277	270	264	264	233	...	148
Inverclyde	4	2	276	284	-8		290	294	342	370	389	...	59
North Ayrshire	4	3	274	266	+8		289	300	305	289	304	...	175
East Ayrshire	4	3	262	260	+2		275	283	293	276	269	...	153
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	252	272	-20		273	287	297	305	286	...	70
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	247	255	-8		279	289	314	297	322	...	32
South Lanarkshire	4	3	245	264	-19		271	274	280	278	289	...	120
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	237	246	-9		246	259	272	277	272	...	120
Aberdeen City	4	3	223	226	-3		244	244	257	257	254	...	163
Falkirk	4	2	223	211	+12		227	239	239	231	232	...	60
South Ayrshire	4	3	223	228	-5		244	246	241	226	218	...	98
Dundee City	4	3	210	228	-18		235	237	256	261	273	...	113
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	1	180	165	+15		157	105	105	52	56	...	22
East Renfrewshire	4	3	179	185	-6		208	204	201	203	204	...	101
Angus	4	2	167	158	+9		158	170	182	176	176	...	37
Perth and Kinross	4	3	159	158	+1		168	184	217	222	236	...	126
Fife	4	3	157	169	-12		175	177	189	196	199	...	97
Stirling	4	3	151	151	0		148	146	150	138	141	...	70
Aberdeenshire	4	3	137	140	-3		152	156	158	174	186	...	88
Moray	4	1	137	125	+12		105	101	120	118	120	...	13
Scottish Borders	4	1	137	138	-1		164	171	197	213	209	...	85
West Lothian	4	3	135	143	-8		156	155	159	166	151	...	83
Edinburgh City	4	3	130	136	-6		147	150	162	170	171	...	109
East Lothian	4	3	126	124	+2		121	112	105	99	93	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	122	117	+5		114	109	117	127	119	...	136
Highland Toffee	4/3	1	120	125	-5		136	154	165	184	174	...	17
Shetland Islands	3	1	79	79	0		87	74	74	83	74	...	0
Argyll and Bute	4/3	2	62	64	-2		75	89	90	86	85	...	29
Orkney Islands	3	1	36	27	+9		18	13	13	18	18	...	0

👍

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Perhaps they could ask passengers to wear their ticket as a face covering.

 

No, no, not anymore. It has to be a very specific mask now. The flimsy make shift ones don't cut it against the new strain, haven't you seen the news today?!?

 

Who'd have thought cutting up old socks and tying them to your head with fishing line might not actually be very effective.

Edited January 20, 2021 by Taffin

[Doogz]

14 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Travelling Taby now breaking diwn vaccine data.

 

 

Sad to see Edinburgh bottom in terms of %age vaccinated ... hopefully they turn that around quickly.

Also interesting to see the differences between male & female %ages as I would have expected to see a higher %age of males than females vaccinated in the higher age groups: would be interesting to know why - hoping it's not just the old boys taking an anti-vax stance.

[Taffin]

1 minute ago, Doogz said:

Sad to see Edinburgh bottom in terms of %age vaccinated ... hopefully they turn that around quickly.

Also interesting to see the differences between male & female %ages as I would have expected to see a higher %age of males than females vaccinated in the higher age groups: would be interesting to know why - hoping it's not just the old boys taking an anti-vax stance.

 

Sex is an interesting thing actually. Pretty sure there's a very uneven balance in terms of covid-19. Is this reflected in the vaccine rollout?

 

[Doogz]

12 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest 7-day per-capita case rates around the councils, based on reporting date:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Previous	Today	Yesterday			18 Jan	17 Jan	16 Jan	15 Jan	14 Jan	...	20 Dec
Scotland			204	209	-5		222	229	239	240	245	...	98
Renfrewshire	4	3	310	294	+16		306	314	328	324	323	...	116
Glasgow City	4	3	303	314	-11		344	360	365	363	374	...	129
North Lanarkshire	4	3	291	303	-12		327	342	352	357	362	...	119
Clackmannanshire	4	3	283	281	+2		277	270	264	264	233	...	148
Inverclyde	4	2	276	284	-8		290	294	342	370	389	...	59
North Ayrshire	4	3	274	266	+8		289	300	305	289	304	...	175
East Ayrshire	4	3	262	260	+2		275	283	293	276	269	...	153
East Dunbartonshire	4	3	252	272	-20		273	287	297	305	286	...	70
Dumfries & Galloway	4	1	247	255	-8		279	289	314	297	322	...	32
South Lanarkshire	4	3	245	264	-19		271	274	280	278	289	...	120
West Dunbartonshire	4	3	237	246	-9		246	259	272	277	272	...	120
Aberdeen City	4	3	223	226	-3		244	244	257	257	254	...	163
Falkirk	4	2	223	211	+12		227	239	239	231	232	...	60
South Ayrshire	4	3	223	228	-5		244	246	241	226	218	...	98
Dundee City	4	3	210	228	-18		235	237	256	261	273	...	113
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3	1	180	165	+15		157	105	105	52	56	...	22
East Renfrewshire	4	3	179	185	-6		208	204	201	203	204	...	101
Angus	4	2	167	158	+9		158	170	182	176	176	...	37
Perth and Kinross	4	3	159	158	+1		168	184	217	222	236	...	126
Fife	4	3	157	169	-12		175	177	189	196	199	...	97
Stirling	4	3	151	151	0		148	146	150	138	141	...	70
Aberdeenshire	4	3	137	140	-3		152	156	158	174	186	...	88
Moray	4	1	137	125	+12		105	101	120	118	120	...	13
Scottish Borders	4	1	137	138	-1		164	171	197	213	209	...	85
West Lothian	4	3	135	143	-8		156	155	159	166	151	...	83
Edinburgh City	4	3	130	136	-6		147	150	162	170	171	...	109
East Lothian	4	3	126	124	+2		121	112	105	99	93	...	148
Midlothian	4	3	122	117	+5		114	109	117	127	119	...	136
Highland Toffee	4/3	1	120	125	-5		136	154	165	184	174	...	17
Shetland Islands	3	1	79	79	0		87	74	74	83	74	...	0
Argyll and Bute	4/3	2	62	64	-2		75	89	90	86	85	...	29
Orkney Islands	3	1	36	27	+9		18	13	13	18	18	...	0

Good to see the drop continue all be it slower than we would like: hopefully this will start to translate into fewer hospital admissions in the next few days.

[Doogz]

Just now, Taffin said:

 

Sex is an interesting thing actually.

 

It certainly is!

[redjambo]

4 minutes ago, Doogz said:

Good to see the drop continue all be it slower than we would like: hopefully this will start to translate into fewer hospital admissions in the next few days.

 

Indeed!

[DETTY29]

10 minutes ago, Doogz said:

Sad to see Edinburgh bottom in terms of %age vaccinated ... hopefully they turn that around quickly.

Also interesting to see the differences between male & female %ages as I would have expected to see a higher %age of males than females vaccinated in the higher age groups: would be interesting to know why - hoping it's not just the old boys taking an anti-vax stance.

Women live longer so I'd expect numbers to be higher to be done.

 

But should men be done first as higher risk?

Edited January 20, 2021 by DETTY29

[Victorian]

Patrick Harvie saying that care homes have been approached by anti-vaxxer weirdos.  These cretins should be warned off with the threat of prosecution.

[Konrad von Carstein]

1 hour ago, Justin Z said:

 

She's always a Star Destroyer Captain in our hearts

Think the Guv would like to destroy her star...

[Doogz]

6 minutes ago, DETTY29 said:

Women live longer so I'd expect numbers to be higher to be done.

 

But should men be done first as higher risk?

Woman living longer is precisely why I'd have expected the Male %age to be higher in the older age groups: if you vaccinate 50 men & 50 women in the over 80 group then the male %age should be higher than the female %age .... Or I've misunderstood the way it's being reported.

[Governor Tarkin]

1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Think the Guv would like to destroy her star...

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, kila said:

How are the two positive testers getting on? James and King Cafe I think?

 

 

? 

[lost in leith]

1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

No.

 

I'm holding an offline copy of the removed Scottish Vaccination plan that breaks down the tiers.

 

But I don't want MI5 or MI6 or whoever knocking my door down by releasing in full.  I'll try and find updated pack.  I don't find the SG website that user friendly.  

 

 

Edit - found updated document -  Pages 4 and 5 of document on page

 

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-deployment-plan-2021/

Thanks again - I promise to visit you in prison 😉

[kila]

1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

? 

 

Or was it just track and trace that alerted you? The other guy in the thread said he tested positive though

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, kila said:

 

Or was it just track and trace that alerted you? The other guy in the thread said he tested positive though

 

 

Yeah just track and trace alerted me to being in close contact with someone in the hospital of all places ! Day 8 from the contact with him and feeling ok ! Thanks for asking 

[sadj]

3 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

TBF, I never heard a word that was said in the interview when I noticed her in today's dress. 👗 

 

3 hours ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

She's incredible, eh? Hottest thing on the telly. ❤️

Pictures to back up this claim please

[Pasquale for King]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yeah just track and trace alerted me to being in close contact with someone in the hospital of all places ! Day 8 from the contact with him and feeling ok ! Thanks for asking 

Glad you’re feeling ok. 
Good to see the track and trace is working up here b too, I’m sure there was complaints about its success on here. 
Apparently the U.K. government are paying our old pals Deloitte over £1m a day for the poor system down south. 
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/test-and-trace-900-deloittes-ps1000-a-day_uk_6005dc3dc5b6ffcab966c5c9

[Weakened Offender]

3 minutes ago, sadj said:

 

Pictures to back up this claim please

 

[sadj]

2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Cheers for that. 

Was there an option for tinfoil wearers that lets you jump the queue 😤 interesting to me in that is uptake 74% (im assuming thats people taking up their appointments) how much of that is antivax , how much is people unsure about getting it etc as that is 296000 vaccines taken for every 400000 vaccines available

2 hours ago, Victorian said:

 

You need to toughen up and grow a pair.

We need more toughening up and more growing a pairs imo

1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

three quarters of GPs supplied or in the course of getting supplied - says Sturgeon 

what does that even mean ?

and how long for the other quarter in the postcode lottery 

I was thinking about this when Frank was talking about Cramond , obviously there is no excuse there as its Central but do Heath Centres have facilities to store the vaccine at the insanely low temp? If not logistically you will have to source and install these before being able to send the vaccine to them. Once you get further North than say Aberdeen or Perth that could be a nightmare. Anyone know?

[The Mighty Thor]

2 hours ago, Justin Z said:

 

A bullying, heartless, narcissistic ladder puller with no regard for anyone is certainly on brand.

A fine summary of the horrible cow. 

[sadj]

10 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Her and Pritti “dracula” Patel would strike fear into lesser men than the ones on this thread i thinks

[Governor Tarkin]

5 minutes ago, sadj said:

Her and Pritti “dracula” Patel would strike fear into lesser men than the ones on this thread i thinks

 

I'd be making moves to pull in wee Naga from over on the Beeb to complete the foursome tbh.

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by Governor Tarkin

[Taffin]

1 hour ago, DETTY29 said:

Women live longer so I'd expect numbers to be higher to be done.

 

But should men be done first as higher risk?

 

I guess it depends if you're rolling out your vaccine based on risk or not. If you are, given that it appears men are more at risk in the UK then they probably should be. If you're doing it arbitrarily, then I guess the order matters less.

[JudyJudyJudy]

24 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Glad you’re feeling ok. 
Good to see the track and trace is working up here b too, I’m sure there was complaints about its success on here. 
Apparently the U.K. government are paying our old pals Deloitte over £1m a day for the poor system down south. 
https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/test-and-trace-900-deloittes-ps1000-a-day_uk_6005dc3dc5b6ffcab966c5c9

Cheers 👍

[Pasquale for King]

13 minutes ago, sadj said:

Was there an option for tinfoil wearers that lets you jump the queue 😤 interesting to me in that is uptake 74% (im assuming thats people taking up their appointments) how much of that is antivax , how much is people unsure about getting it etc as that is 296000 vaccines taken for every 400000 vaccines available

We need more toughening up and more growing a pairs imo

I was thinking about this when Frank was talking about Cramond , obviously there is no excuse there as its Central but do Heath Centres have facilities to store the vaccine at the insanely low temp? If not logistically you will have to source and install these before being able to send the vaccine to them. Once you get further North than say Aberdeen or Perth that could be a nightmare. Anyone know?

That’s why I’m getting it so quickly 🤪

[sadj]

Just now, Pasquale for King said:

That’s why I’m getting it so quickly 🤪

🤣 thought so , good news you are getting it soonish though. 
@JamesM48 good to hesr you are doing well and no symptoms yet. 👍🏻

[sadj]

1820 deaths today

[Don Dan]

12 minutes ago, sadj said:

1820 deaths today

It’s all a hoax according to a poster on here. 

[Pasquale for King]

41 minutes ago, sadj said:

🤣 thought so , good news you are getting it soonish though. 
@JamesM48 good to hesr you are doing well and no symptoms yet. 👍🏻

Cheers, will update with the details when I get it. 

[Footballfirst]

26 minutes ago, sadj said:

1820 deaths today

Around two weeks ago  UK daily case numbers peaked at over 60K a day.  I think that the current death figures are a reflection of that peak.  Daily UK case numbers are now down to the mid to high 30Ks so I'd expect a corresponding fall in the death rate to follow in around two weeks time.

 

Add in the increasing impact of the vaccination programme, then the numbers should be further suppressed.  

[Weakened Offender]

31 minutes ago, sadj said:

1820 deaths today

 

Shameful. 

 

Johnson should be strung up in public. 

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

Around two weeks ago  UK daily case numbers peaked at over 60K a day.  I think that the current death figures are a reflection of that peak.  Daily UK case numbers are now down to the mid to high 30Ks so I'd expect a corresponding fall in the death rate to follow in around two weeks time.

 

Add in the increasing impact of the vaccination programme, then the numbers should be further suppressed.  

That's right, but I never imagined that the deaths would be this high and that's with better techniques and treatments compared to the 1st wave.

It's mental

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Shameful. 

 

Johnson should be strung up in public. 

Yup and the same with Sturgeon, Drakeford etc.

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

52 minutes ago, sadj said:

no symptoms yet. 👍🏻

arggggggggggh.. LOL. thanks ! 

[JudyJudyJudy]

53 minutes ago, sadj said:

🤣 thought so , good news you are getting it soonish though. 
@JamesM48 good to hesr you are doing well and no symptoms yet. 👍🏻

Actually despite me washing my messages in bleach etc and high anxiety of last year I wasn't too concerned about being in close contact with the person as it would have been extremely unlikely I would have caught it as he was a distance from me in the ward/ bay and I have my mask on all the time. Only thing was the nurses etc were close to him at times. I have had a bit of worry about it , thinking " will i wake up during the night with a fever or in the morning etc) so it does have an effect on you ( at the back of your mind). 

[The Mighty Thor]

44 minutes ago, sadj said:

1820 deaths today

 

12 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Shameful. 

 

Johnson should be strung up in public. 

A really terrible indictment of the handling of the whole thing. 

 

At the minute, its the equivalent of 10 boeing 737s crashing every single day. 

 

The whole sorry lot of them should be hounded for the rest of their born days. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by The Mighty Thor

[Footballfirst]

3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

That's right, but I never imagined that the deaths would be this high and that's with better techniques and treatments compared to the 1st wave.

It's mental

Just a note of caution on the figures below as they aren't completely comaprable.

 

The peak number of of UK cases in the first wave was just over 6,000 a day.  Testing has obviously ramped up enormously since then, so that we have seen a 10 fold increase in positive cases reported.

 

The peak numbers of daily deaths however was 1,150('ish) so a 10 fold increase in cases has resulted in around a 60% increase in the death rate.

 

The hospitalisation figures would probably be a better comparator, but I don't have them to hand. 

 

My gut feel is that the virus is much more widespread than during the first wave but that better treatments are helping keeping the worst of the outcomes just about under control. 

[Weakened Offender]

7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

A really terrible indictment of the handling of the whole thing. 

 

At the minute, its the equivalent of 10 boeing 737s crashing every single day. 

 

The whole sorry lot of them should be hounded for the rest of their born days. 

 

It's carnage isn't it? 

 

I have a friend in Spain who says their news reporting of the situation in the UK is horrific. 

 

Meanwhile people on this thread call it propaganda. Utter *****. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by Weakened Offender

[Enzo Chiefo]

44 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Paddy Harvie and his merry band of fantasists? Agree entirely 

That will be the same wee f*d that forces one his MSPs out the party for daring to have a different opinion on the transgender debate. An opinion , unlike Harvie's, that is based on biological evidence. He is wrong on nearly every issue of the day though,  so it's hardly surprising. 

[sadj]

26 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Around two weeks ago  UK daily case numbers peaked at over 60K a day.  I think that the current death figures are a reflection of that peak.  Daily UK case numbers are now down to the mid to high 30Ks so I'd expect a corresponding fall in the death rate to follow in around two weeks time.

 

Add in the increasing impact of the vaccination programme, then the numbers should be further suppressed.  

fingers crossed FF

 

23 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

That's right, but I never imagined that the deaths would be this high and that's with better techniques and treatments compared to the 1st wave.

It's mental

The thought of this without the better techniques and treatments is not worth thinking about. 

 

14 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Actually despite me washing my messages in bleach etc and high anxiety of last year I wasn't too concerned about being in close contact with the person as it would have been extremely unlikely I would have caught it as he was a distance from me in the ward/ bay and I have my mask on all the time. Only thing was the nurses etc were close to him at times. I have had a bit of worry about it , thinking " will i wake up during the night with a fever or in the morning etc) so it does have an effect on you ( at the back of your mind). 

Yeah , it does play on your mind and makes you overthink your actions and what you are doing or who you might be around. Just stay strong pal 👍🏻

Edited January 20, 2021 by sadj

[Enzo Chiefo]

24 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

Shameful. 

 

Johnson should be strung up in public. 

Not Sturgeon though?

[sadj]

1 minute ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Not Sturgeon though?

Nope as that wouldn’t trigger you 😝