Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[westbow]

5 minutes ago, sadj said:

I think its a prerequisite for being at PT at Pure Gym , its unreal the number of PTs who work for Pure Gym in Scotland that sell coke lol. Most of them like to shag their punters too. Annoys **** out of me but thats another thread haha.

 

Fort Kinnaird is ok actually. Well spaced out and enough equipment to avoid having to wait around.

Pretty decent parking. I was a member of a gym in town that was part of a hotel. Nice enough but the weekends were murder. Too many wacky weekenders using the spa as part of a package.  Also used to see Michael Stewart there which was also a downer.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

Spot on , im very lucky I have my own gym in the house. I wouldnt be near a gym otherwise. 

i have a gym in the house as well. Step 1 bend down (cardio) and open cupboard Step 2 lift up litre bottle of Vodka (weights) Step 3 open fridge grab can of diet coke (low calories) relax on couch for twenty minutes  to regain strength. repeat as often as you want.

[sadj]

Just now, westbow said:

Pretty decent parking. I was a member of a gym in town that was part of a hotel. Nice enough but the weekends were murder. Too many wacky weekenders using the spa as part of a package.  Also used to see Michael Stewart there which was also a downer.

Just throw a dumbbell at him..I did that when a little **** walked through my arm as i was incline flying...Manageress asked me why id thrown the dumbbell at him then saw my ripped pec and just went , no worries ill ban him instead 🤣 Sure you could have done the same and got MS banned

[Dennis Reynolds]

As the university testing is the lateral flow testing, I don't believe these are counted towards the totals. I'm sure she also mentioned this yesterday.

[Victorian]

18 minutes ago, Dazo said:

I didn’t say you shouldn’t, your choice to thrive in negativity. 👍

 

Away and have a run. 

[sadj]

Just now, **** the SPFL said:

i have a gym in the house as well. Step 1 bend down (cardio) and open cupboard Step 2 lift up litre bottle of Vodka (weights) Step 3 open fridge grab can of diet coke (low calories) relax on couch for twenty minutes  to regain strength. repeat as often as you want.

Hahaha brilliant , i dont like Cardio never have never will. Belly plus strength is a dad bod right? Sure thats in fashion at mo 🤣

[DETTY29]

2 hours ago, CavySlaveJambo said:

Been looking likely since the end of last week.  Very similar case numbers to Midlothian without taking the population into account.  
 

I was meant to be in Amsterdam for Christmas. Despite the lockdown there, there are still flights going and the flights I was meant to be on are still going. Saying that they are probably still expecting people connecting onto Long Haul Flights there. 

My brother goes to Amerstam on 20th, tested, stays in a hotel for 4 days, flies to Dubai, same again then off to a work bubble for 4 weeks.

[Nucky Thompson]

10 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Test positivity rising is not the same as tests being carried out rising.

 

It's the percentage of the tests coming back positive that counts.

IF you test 1000 and get 50 positive results, or test 10.000 and get 500 positive, it still works out as 5% positivity.

 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

2 minutes ago, sadj said:

Hahaha brilliant , i dont like Cardio never have never will. Belly plus strength is a dad bod right? Sure thats in fashion at mo 🤣

keep up the good work sadj

[Dazo]

17 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Testing has remained at the same level on a national level. Not seen any evidence to suggest they've piled all the tests into Edinburgh alone. Have you?

Mass testing at Uni’s would surely skew Edinburgh figures ? Regardless without the two figures the 40% on it’s on means very little. It’s very telling she is now concentrating on the positive tests for Edinburgh and no mention of the other indicators. 🙄

[JyTees]

1 hour ago, Brian Dundas said:

 

How does reducing the number of days make any difference?

 

Well because it's Christmas, Covid will only infect you if you've been hanging about the relatives for longer than 48 hrs. Obviously.

[Nucky Thompson]

4 minutes ago, LMc said:

As the university testing is the lateral flow testing, I don't believe these are counted towards the totals. I'm sure she also mentioned this yesterday.

My laddie got a PCR test at HWU.

 

[Nucky Thompson]

12 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

Here is the details for Edinburgh for W/E 5/12 & 12/12

 

 

So 4.2% to 5.2%. Still below the national figure of 5.3% 

 

No wonder she didn't mention the positivity percentage. It makes it sound much more dramatic to say that positive cases have risen by 40%

[Seymour M Hersh]

38 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

Today Scotland Tomorrow UK next the World - theres no stopping the supreme leader

 

The other fish species might. 

[JyTees]

3 minutes ago, weehammy said:

Your smugness leaps from the screen. To think I provoked outrage by suggesting some zoomers would enjoy seeing a rise in Edinburgh cases just so they could tell us Nicola was right.

 

Absolutely vindicated WH. 

 

Ray popped a semi.

[CavySlaveJambo]

12 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

So 4.2% to 5.2%. Still below the national figure of 5.3% 

 

No wonder she didn't mention the positivity percentage. It makes it sound much more dramatic to say that positive cases have risen by 40%

Over 5% positive is tier 3, below is tier 2. 

[Nucky Thompson]

2 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said:

Over 5% positive is tier 3, below is tier 2. 

Edinburgh was under 5% for a while, but it was ignored.

0.2% over the threshold isn't really the big vindication that Sturgeon lovers are shouting about 

[Dazo]

32 minutes ago, Victorian said:

 

Away and have a run. 

 

Sound advice, it’s good for our mental health. You are negative though.

 

I just want Edinburgh to be treated fairly oh and have a drink with my Christmas dinner.  

[JudyJudyJudy]

19 minutes ago, weehammy said:

 

Did you really need her to tell you that?
 

 

 

No but it just resonated with me for some reason. I was actually good advice. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Edinburgh was under 5% for a while, but it was ignored.

0.2% over the threshold isn't really the big vindication that Sturgeon lovers are shouting about 

When Edinburgh was under 5%, there were other reasons why we weren't tier 2. Now we are just over 5%, back to this figure being the deciding factor. 

Stop questioning Nicola or Ray will get upset. She and he must be vindicated. 

[Seymour M Hersh]

8 minutes ago, weehammy said:

He must be really toiling if she gives him a semi! 🤮

 

She makes me want to destroy every double bed in the world. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

56 minutes ago, sadj said:

I think its a prerequisite for being at PT at Pure Gym , its unreal the number of PTs who work for Pure Gym in Scotland that sell coke lol. Most of them like to shag their punters too. Annoys **** out of me but thats another thread haha.

 

Fort Kinnaird is ok actually. Well spaced out and enough equipment to avoid having to wait around.

Funny u should say that i know a PT who got done for dealing and served a few years.. Hes now on the straight and narrow and doing really well. I am trying to buy an exercise bike but they are pretty expensive. Messaged a charlatan on Gumtree about one which would have cost £110 which was quite reasonable but he sounded dodgey so didnt proceed. Ive looked on Facebook marketplace but nowt on there.  Do you know any decent outlets for bikes? I do have some dumbells and two cartons of 2 litres milk bottles though lol

[Ray Gin]

Great to see the usual melts with egg on their faces, yet again, deflecting by trying to have digs at me. 

 

 

[CavySlaveJambo]

13 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

True, but they missed the window, it is going up now, needs to be going down. I don’t think they moved anyone to tier 2 with the same numbers/circumstances as Edinburgh were. 

No. The Midlothian failure to move was for the same reasons.  And since then the numbers where all over the place. 
 

Also this week is when we will see if Tier 4 actually sustainably got the numbers down in the West.  Tomorrow is Day 5 out of it. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by CavySlaveJambo

[Dazo]

7 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

Great to see the usual melts with egg on their faces, yet again, deflecting by trying to have digs at me. 

 

 

Deflecting from what exactly ? 

[Ray Gin]

Just now, Dazo said:

Deflecting from what exactly ? 

 

That they didn't know better than the 'clueless' SG after all and that their tantrums about Edinburgh not dropping a level were misplaced. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

Not at mine. They are ****ing mental with it. 
 

Temp check as you enter, they then tell you rules for the day and ask you santisize before you go through turnstiles. Mask enforcement is SS style strict. They have sanitising equipment everywhere and people watching ensuring compliance of rules and cleaners constantly going round cleaning, on top of users requirements to clean before and after. They have introduced a bunch of non sensual rules such as nothing can be unattended in gym. Windows open and sanitiser. 

 

In fairness I’ve been loving it as it’s been quiet as, when I train, so just me and some gym bunny, generally. We have enough flanter between us so that our ego’s are massaged enough.
 

Training hard and enjoying it so much. It’s about the only place I’m allowed to go, don’t take it away from me.

Yes i think most gyms are being responsible from what i have read. Im not advocating closures. Its good for the physical as well as mental. Mine have plummeted due to not going to the gym i feel.  Btw what is " flanter" ?  

[Taffin]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

That they didn't know better than the 'clueless' SG after all and that their tantrums about Edinburgh not dropping a level were misplaced. 

 

The SG who, despite keeping their measurements in place, are overseeing a rise in cases and whilst also delivering the highest number of drug deaths on record? That SG?

 

Wow, they're sure showing everyone they know what they are doing. Consider my face egged.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Lord BJ said:

Cross between flirting and banter. 

Oh right  

[CavySlaveJambo]

4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes i think most gyms are being responsible from what i have read. Im not advocating closures. Its good for the physical as well as mental. Mine have plummeted due to not going to the gym i feel.  Btw what is " flanter" ?  

Should local health enforcement people be allowed to close Gyms that are not enforcing masks and cleanliness standards needed? 

[Ray Gin]

5 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

The SG who, despite keeping their measurements in place, are overseeing a rise in cases and whilst also delivering the highest number of drug deaths on record? That SG?

 

Wow, they're sure showing everyone they know what they are doing. Consider my face egged.

 

Our cases are doing better than the rest of the UK and drug policy is held by Westminster. 

[redjambo]

Today's 7-day per-100,000 case rates across the councils. Tiers as of Friday coming.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Today	Yesterday				13 Dec	12 Dec	11 Dec	10 Dec	9 Dec
Clackmannanshire	3	194	188	+6			190	173	167	181	198
North Ayrshire	3	185	181	+4			180	177	160	145	154
Midlothian	3	182	163	+19			151	133	123	93	84
East Ayrshire	3	170	175	-5			161	152	160	149	148
Dundee City	3	159	165	-6			132	125	111	104	112
Aberdeen City	3	157	144	+13			124	120	114	96	95
Glasgow City	3	154	154	0			141	145	135	142	146
North Lanarkshire	3	152	144	+8			134	131	129	141	142
East Lothian	3	150	136	+14			126	122	122	114	99
South Lanarkshire	3	145	141	+4			128	134	127	124	124
Renfrewshire	3	144	145	-1			145	142	138	128	128
Fife	3	139	133	+6			135	132	118	114	106
East Renfrewshire	3	128	130	-2			137	124	119	125	127
South Ayrshire	3	123	123	0			116	121	111	101	99
Perth and Kinross	3	116	113	+3			104	97	75	83	94
Edinburgh City	3	112	109	+3			102	95	93	86	89
East Dunbartonshire	3	109	100	+9			106	106	104	100	100
West Lothian	3	104	110	-6			117	110	125	122	123
West Dunbartonshire	3	96	94	+2			80	75	74	63	67
Falkirk	2	90	91	-1			98	98	99	104	80
Scottish Borders	1	89	87	+2			82	73	56	52	48
Aberdeenshire	3	85	80	+5			89	83	85	86	90
Stirling	3	80	84	-4			93	97	91	90	83
Angus	2	59	60	-1			69	66	60	55	65
Inverclyde	2	59	51	+8			57	63	57	51	54
Argyll and Bute	2	35	33	+2			51	49	48	154	162
Na h-Eileanan Siar	1	26	22	+4			15	15	15	15	4
Dumfries & Galloway	1	22	21	+1			23	25	25	27	26
Highland	1	19	17	+2			18	16	13	13	11
Moray	1	17	21	-4			25	22	19	14	15
Orkney Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	0
Shetland Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	4
Scotland		115	111	+4			111	108	102	102	103

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, CavySlaveJambo said:

Should local health enforcement people be allowed to close Gyms that are not enforcing masks and cleanliness standards needed? 

Probably but I just voted with my feet. 

[Nucky Thompson]

6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

That they didn't know better than the 'clueless' SG after all and that their tantrums about Edinburgh not dropping a level were misplaced. 

More like people questioning the decisions and pointing out her convenient ways of reporting the figures.

 

 

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, jonesy said:

If you read above, you'll notice that the melts are discussing testing/case stats. Your earlier post was deliberately provocative, and added about as much to the debate as Marcel Langer did to our 2019/20 season.

 

Which earlier post? 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's 7-day per-100,000 case rates across the councils. Tiers as of Friday coming.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Today	Yesterday				13 Dec	12 Dec	11 Dec	10 Dec	9 Dec
Clackmannanshire	3	194	188	+6			190	173	167	181	198
North Ayrshire	3	185	181	+4			180	177	160	145	154
Midlothian	3	182	163	+19			151	133	123	93	84
East Ayrshire	3	170	175	-5			161	152	160	149	148
Dundee City	3	159	165	-6			132	125	111	104	112
Aberdeen City	3	157	144	+13			124	120	114	96	95
Glasgow City	3	154	154	0			141	145	135	142	146
North Lanarkshire	3	152	144	+8			134	131	129	141	142
East Lothian	3	150	136	+14			126	122	122	114	99
South Lanarkshire	3	145	141	+4			128	134	127	124	124
Renfrewshire	3	144	145	-1			145	142	138	128	128
Fife	3	139	133	+6			135	132	118	114	106
East Renfrewshire	3	128	130	-2			137	124	119	125	127
South Ayrshire	3	123	123	0			116	121	111	101	99
Perth and Kinross	3	116	113	+3			104	97	75	83	94
Edinburgh City	3	112	109	+3			102	95	93	86	89
East Dunbartonshire	3	109	100	+9			106	106	104	100	100
West Lothian	3	104	110	-6			117	110	125	122	123
West Dunbartonshire	3	96	94	+2			80	75	74	63	67
Falkirk	2	90	91	-1			98	98	99	104	80
Scottish Borders	1	89	87	+2			82	73	56	52	48
Aberdeenshire	3	85	80	+5			89	83	85	86	90
Stirling	3	80	84	-4			93	97	91	90	83
Angus	2	59	60	-1			69	66	60	55	65
Inverclyde	2	59	51	+8			57	63	57	51	54
Argyll and Bute	2	35	33	+2			51	49	48	154	162
Na h-Eileanan Siar	1	26	22	+4			15	15	15	15	4
Dumfries & Galloway	1	22	21	+1			23	25	25	27	26
Highland	1	19	17	+2			18	16	13	13	11
Moray	1	17	21	-4			25	22	19	14	15
Orkney Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	0
Shetland Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	4
Scotland		115	111	+4			111	108	102	102	103

👍

[Dazo]

14 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

That they didn't know better than the 'clueless' SG after all and that their tantrums about Edinburgh not dropping a level were misplaced. 

We should have been in tier 2 for a couple of weeks at least and now only just moved into tier 3 numbers. Is that really being right after all ? I’m not so sure unless of course she was completely wrong for a couple of weeks ? Seems like every other area can move freely up and down. Also Edinburgh’s numbers have been up and down despite being in tier 3 for many weeks,? so what exactly is she correct about ? 
 

If you think she’s played a blinder then I admire your loyalty to the cause rather than to Edinburgh, if you are indeed from Edinburgh. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by Dazo

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Our cases are doing better than the rest of the UK and drug policy is held by Westminster. 

 

 

Your cases are doing worse than where I live in the UK, so not entirely true. If it's UK drug policy causing the issues then why is the issue worse in Scotland?

[Fire_At_The_Disco]

Falkirk still on lvl2 .....nice pre-sc final meal and pints booked for Sat 😀

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, Dazo said:

We should have been in tier 2 for a couple of weeks at least and now only just moved into tier 3 numbers. Is that really being right after all ? I’m not so sure unless of course she was completely wrong for a couple of weeks ? Seems like every other area can move freely up and down. Also Edinburgh’s have been up abs down despite being in tier 3 for many weeks,? so what exactly is she correct about ? 
 

If you think she’s played a blinder then I admire your loyalty to the cause of your loyalty to Edinburgh, if you are indeed from Edinburgh. 

 

My loyalty to Edinburgh is backing policy that sees as few people in Edinburgh dying as possible. Not allowing folk to have some pints at the risk of cases flying up. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

5 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

 

Your cases are doing worse than where I live in the UK, so not entirely true. If it's UK drug policy causing the issues then why is the issue worse in Scotland?

Because the SG have taken eye off ball on the day job on their crusade for independence. They would legalise drugs as that is easiest way to sweep issue under carpet. 

 

[Nucky Thompson]

There is talk of the North east of England dropping down to England's tier2 tomorrow.

Pubs in Berwick open all day if they can sell you a scotch egg with your pint 

There's a new premier inn just opened. 

£29 a night rooms. Might be tempted for Sunday

[Malinga the Swinga]

4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

My loyalty to Edinburgh is backing policy that sees as few people in Edinburgh dying as possible. Not allowing folk to have some pints at the risk of cases flying up. 

Just because you can't be trusted to drink alcohol and keep safe doesn't mean other couldn't be. 

[frankblack]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

My loyalty to Edinburgh is backing policy that sees as few people in Edinburgh dying as possible. Not allowing folk to have some pints at the risk of cases flying up. 

 

But hospitality has been shut for 3 months and numbers are still increasing, so what is causing the rise?  Do we close all these businesses now and make the staff redundant if she has no intention of lowering the tier?

[Hesh]

17 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Today's 7-day per-100,000 case rates across the councils. Tiers as of Friday coming.

 

		7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	Tier	Today	Yesterday				13 Dec	12 Dec	11 Dec	10 Dec	9 Dec
Clackmannanshire	3	194	188	+6			190	173	167	181	198
North Ayrshire	3	185	181	+4			180	177	160	145	154
Midlothian	3	182	163	+19			151	133	123	93	84
East Ayrshire	3	170	175	-5			161	152	160	149	148
Dundee City	3	159	165	-6			132	125	111	104	112
Aberdeen City	3	157	144	+13			124	120	114	96	95
Glasgow City	3	154	154	0			141	145	135	142	146
North Lanarkshire	3	152	144	+8			134	131	129	141	142
East Lothian	3	150	136	+14			126	122	122	114	99
South Lanarkshire	3	145	141	+4			128	134	127	124	124
Renfrewshire	3	144	145	-1			145	142	138	128	128
Fife	3	139	133	+6			135	132	118	114	106
East Renfrewshire	3	128	130	-2			137	124	119	125	127
South Ayrshire	3	123	123	0			116	121	111	101	99
Perth and Kinross	3	116	113	+3			104	97	75	83	94
Edinburgh City	3	112	109	+3			102	95	93	86	89
East Dunbartonshire	3	109	100	+9			106	106	104	100	100
West Lothian	3	104	110	-6			117	110	125	122	123
West Dunbartonshire	3	96	94	+2			80	75	74	63	67
Falkirk	2	90	91	-1			98	98	99	104	80
Scottish Borders	1	89	87	+2			82	73	56	52	48
Aberdeenshire	3	85	80	+5			89	83	85	86	90
Stirling	3	80	84	-4			93	97	91	90	83
Angus	2	59	60	-1			69	66	60	55	65
Inverclyde	2	59	51	+8			57	63	57	51	54
Argyll and Bute	2	35	33	+2			51	49	48	154	162
Na h-Eileanan Siar	1	26	22	+4			15	15	15	15	4
Dumfries & Galloway	1	22	21	+1			23	25	25	27	26
Highland	1	19	17	+2			18	16	13	13	11
Moray	1	17	21	-4			25	22	19	14	15
Orkney Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	0
Shetland Islands	1	0	0	0			0	0	0	0	4
Scotland		115	111	+4			111	108	102	102	103

Source?

[Ray Gin]

Just now, frankblack said:

 

But hospitality has been shut for 3 months and numbers are still increasing, so what is causing the rise?  Do we close all these businesses now and make the staff redundant if she has no intention of lowering the tier?

 

Numbers were dropping until recently. Christmas shopping is probably causing the rise. 

 

The tier will lower when it is actually safe to do so - after Christmas. 

[redjambo]

1 minute ago, Hesh said:

Source?

 

https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/local

[Nucky Thompson]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

Numbers were dropping until recently. Christmas shopping is probably causing the rise. 

 

The tier will lower when it is actually safe to do so - after Christmas. 

Outbreaks in halls, then mass testing at Universities over the last 2 weeks has caused the rise

 

 

 

[frankblack]

11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Outbreaks in halls, then mass testing at Universities over the last 2 weeks has caused the rise

 

 

 

 

It would be nice if that was getting reported by the SG in order to make sense of their meaningless statistics.

[theshed]

32 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Our cases are doing better than the rest of the UK and drug policy is held by Westminster. 

 

Regards drug policy it wasn’t Westminster who have cut around 40 million in last few years from the drug budget and that was Scottish government so nothing to do with Westminster. 

 

The rules scotland cant change apply to the rest of the uk and their numbers are much much lower than ours. Scotland has developed powers that should be able to deal with this but they haven’t done a very good job at all