redjambo Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, scott herbertson said: The supply issue was mentioned at Friday briefing by the FM - -still expects to meet the targets so just temporary, hopefully Cheers, Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Edinburgh at 42, although not 7 day average. Prob need to get to about 35 to safely go into tier 2 end April. Why not aim for better though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, redjambo said: The latest 7-day stats. A nice drop in the overall 7-day case rate. Today's vaccination figures noticeably lower than normal so may indicate a supply issue? Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday 5 Mar 4 Mar 3 Mar 2 Mar 1 Mar ... 20 Dec Scotland 62 66 -4 65 66 71 76 78 ... 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 149 159 -10 149 165 151 144 126 ... 148 Stirling 4 3 126 123 +3 123 131 140 155 155 ... 70 Falkirk 4 2 123 127 -4 127 137 146 158 162 ... 60 Glasgow City 4 3 111 112 -1 108 104 105 110 113 ... 129 North Lanarkshire 4 3 105 108 -3 105 102 112 115 122 ... 119 West Lothian 4 3 103 109 -6 113 114 120 126 128 ... 83 North Ayrshire 4 3 90 88 +2 81 79 76 72 74 ... 175 East Renfrewshire 4 3 86 91 -5 89 76 84 83 75 ... 101 South Lanarkshire 4 3 76 83 -7 84 84 93 95 96 ... 120 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 1 71 60 +11 34 22 15 22 34 ... 22 Dundee City 4 3 66 71 -5 74 66 65 74 70 ... 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 65 79 -14 80 94 110 117 121 ... 116 Midlothian 4 3 63 75 -12 79 81 94 105 106 ... 136 East Lothian 4 3 55 63 -8 69 77 91 100 95 ... 148 East Ayrshire 4 3 54 54 0 57 66 80 81 88 ... 153 Angus 4 2 47 45 +2 52 47 43 44 46 ... 37 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 45 61 -16 69 81 100 118 128 ... 120 Edinburgh City 4 3 42 45 -3 49 52 59 63 67 ... 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 41 48 -7 51 49 60 69 77 ... 70 Fife 4 3 39 45 -6 38 46 51 56 58 ... 97 Perth & Kinross 4 3 39 47 -8 38 45 55 58 60 ... 126 Highland 4/3 1 35 34 +1 33 28 26 32 30 ... 17 Aberdeen City 4 3 32 31 +1 27 28 26 29 29 ... 163 Moray 4 1 32 31 +1 37 37 38 40 38 ... 13 South Ayrshire 4 3 24 24 0 26 31 43 45 49 ... 98 Inverclyde 4 2 23 30 -7 32 41 50 51 55 ... 59 Scottish Borders 4 1 20 18 +2 16 15 17 16 15 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 3 18 17 +1 16 15 14 17 18 ... 88 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 16 16 0 16 17 19 26 32 ... 32 Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 14 16 -2 21 24 22 17 17 ... 29 Hjaltland 3 1 4 4 0 4 4 0 0 0 ... 0 Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ... 0 7-day averages Tests 18543 19058 -515 18576 18758 18739 18616 18830 ... 16839 Positivity rate % 3.1 3.2 -0.1 3.2 3.3 3.5 3.7 3.8 ... 5.2 Hospital (non-ICU) 650 677 -27 713 747 779 814 852 ... 975 ICU 67 69 -2 71 73 76 79 83 ... 50 Deaths 16 17 -1 18 20 21 23 26 ... 25 All Vaccinations 29353 30803 -1450 31085 30861 30890 30052 29659 1st Dose 23722 24817 -1095 24963 24661 24829 24160 23727 2nd Dose 5631 5986 -355 6122 6200 6061 5892 5932 Looking great for Edinburgh reaching Level 1 now when restrictions are eased. Let's hope those numbers keep dropping when all the school kids return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: I gie up https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-should-prepare-for-difficult-autumn-warns-public-health-england-official-12238728 So we need to be ready for these new variants that willl come into the country? And how will these variants arrive here? By plane and train etc as people visit this county and return from holidays abroad? I give up too. It's about time they gagged all these PHE and other so called experts. One singer one song as my Granny used to say Edited March 7, 2021 by Dagger Is Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Edinburgh at 42, although not 7 day average. Prob need to get to about 35 to safely go into tier 2 end April. Why not aim for better though? That figure of 42 is in effect a 7-day average. You get the figure by adding up all the new cases over the last 7 days and then working out the per-capita rate. It is one of the key indicators used in determining the tiers. In saying that, however, the SG does appear to use the 7-day rate based on sample date which lags by 2-3 days behind the one I use based on reporting date. The most important thing is probably stability - if a council shows that it has consistently stayed within a certain 7-day case rate range over a period of time, then it will certainly work in its favour rather than one where the graph is more jagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, redjambo said: That figure of 42 is in effect a 7-day average. You get the figure by adding up all the new cases over the last 7 days and then working out the per-capita rate. It is one of the key indicators used in determining the tiers. In saying that, however, the SG does appear to use the 7-day rate based on sample date which lags by 2-3 days behind the one I use based on reporting date. The most important thing is probably stability - if a council shows that it has consistently stayed within a certain 7-day case rate range over a period of time, then it will certainly work in its favour rather than one where the graph is more jagged. Cheers. I just briefly looked at so even better. 42 still not imo safe enough to go into 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: Cheers. I just briefly looked at so even better. 42 still not imo safe enough to go into 2. Using the specimen dates, Edinburgh's recently published 7 day/100k averages have fallen fairly sharply. The most recent figure (43.43) is from 4th March. Cases 7day/100k Av 54 94.11 58 89.54 56 84.77 58 79.25 38 72.01 27 65.72 47 64.39 41 61.91 22 55.05 24 48.96 29 43.43 It will undoubtedly require at least a week's average figures below "50" to confirm Level 2 but, by 26 April, there is no reason why the numbers should not be below the Level 1 threshold of 20. Edited March 7, 2021 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 48 minutes ago, redjambo said: The latest 7-day stats. A nice drop in the overall 7-day case rate. Today's vaccination figures noticeably lower than normal so may indicate a supply issue? Pre- 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area Tier Lockdown Today Yesterday 5 Mar 4 Mar 3 Mar 2 Mar 1 Mar ... 20 Dec Scotland 62 66 -4 65 66 71 76 78 ... 98 Clackmannanshire 4 3 149 159 -10 149 165 151 144 126 ... 148 Stirling 4 3 126 123 +3 123 131 140 155 155 ... 70 Falkirk 4 2 123 127 -4 127 137 146 158 162 ... 60 Glasgow City 4 3 111 112 -1 108 104 105 110 113 ... 129 North Lanarkshire 4 3 105 108 -3 105 102 112 115 122 ... 119 West Lothian 4 3 103 109 -6 113 114 120 126 128 ... 83 North Ayrshire 4 3 90 88 +2 81 79 76 72 74 ... 175 East Renfrewshire 4 3 86 91 -5 89 76 84 83 75 ... 101 South Lanarkshire 4 3 76 83 -7 84 84 93 95 96 ... 120 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 1 71 60 +11 34 22 15 22 34 ... 22 Dundee City 4 3 66 71 -5 74 66 65 74 70 ... 113 Renfrewshire 4 3 65 79 -14 80 94 110 117 121 ... 116 Midlothian 4 3 63 75 -12 79 81 94 105 106 ... 136 East Lothian 4 3 55 63 -8 69 77 91 100 95 ... 148 East Ayrshire 4 3 54 54 0 57 66 80 81 88 ... 153 Angus 4 2 47 45 +2 52 47 43 44 46 ... 37 West Dunbartonshire 4 3 45 61 -16 69 81 100 118 128 ... 120 Edinburgh City 4 3 42 45 -3 49 52 59 63 67 ... 109 East Dunbartonshire 4 3 41 48 -7 51 49 60 69 77 ... 70 Fife 4 3 39 45 -6 38 46 51 56 58 ... 97 Perth & Kinross 4 3 39 47 -8 38 45 55 58 60 ... 126 Highland 4/3 1 35 34 +1 33 28 26 32 30 ... 17 Aberdeen City 4 3 32 31 +1 27 28 26 29 29 ... 163 Moray 4 1 32 31 +1 37 37 38 40 38 ... 13 South Ayrshire 4 3 24 24 0 26 31 43 45 49 ... 98 Inverclyde 4 2 23 30 -7 32 41 50 51 55 ... 59 Scottish Borders 4 1 20 18 +2 16 15 17 16 15 ... 85 Aberdeenshire 4 3 18 17 +1 16 15 14 17 18 ... 88 Dumfries & Galloway 4 1 16 16 0 16 17 19 26 32 ... 32 Argyll & Bute 4/3 2 14 16 -2 21 24 22 17 17 ... 29 Hjaltland 3 1 4 4 0 4 4 0 0 0 ... 0 Orkney Islands 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ... 0 7-day averages Tests 18543 19058 -515 18576 18758 18739 18616 18830 ... 16839 Positivity rate % 3.1 3.2 -0.1 3.2 3.3 3.5 3.7 3.8 ... 5.2 Hospital (non-ICU) 650 677 -27 713 747 779 814 852 ... 975 ICU 67 69 -2 71 73 76 79 83 ... 50 Deaths 16 17 -1 18 20 21 23 26 ... 25 All Vaccinations 29353 30803 -1450 31085 30861 30890 30052 29659 1st Dose 23722 24817 -1095 24963 24661 24829 24160 23727 2nd Dose 5631 5986 -355 6122 6200 6061 5892 5932 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Using the specimen dates, Edinburgh's recently published 7 day/100k averages have fallen fairly sharply. The most recent figure (43.43) is from 4th March. Cases 7day/100k Av 54 94.11 58 89.54 56 84.77 58 79.25 38 72.01 27 65.72 47 64.39 41 61.91 22 55.05 24 48.96 29 43.43 It will undoubtedly require at least a week's average figures below "50" to confirm Level 2 but, by 26 April, there is no reason why the numbers should not be below the Level 1 threshold of 20. Looking good to head that way but similarly if we are to go to L1 I think we need to be a bit below 20. I really don't want to be in a tier for a week or so, things open up and back up a tier we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: The BBC seems to think that it would be a hard winter. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56312621 "Covid: UK must prepare for 'hard winter' of flu – expert" We've got flu vaccines - if they really are predicting a loss of immunity due to lockdown (which isn't how immunity works from everything I've read and digested over the last year and a bit so I don't really understand this at all), then order more flu vaccines. We've stuck to severe restrictions, at great social and economic cost, because we can see the rationale and the need to prevent spread of the virus and deaths (which hit the most deprived in society hardest - another reason I haven't countenanced just shrugging my shoulders at "X" number of deaths and demanding a premature end to the lockdowns). Now that we are running a superb mass-vaccination programme that has to be the way forward. Get the booster vaccines prepped NOW for sequenced mutations, keep the mass vaccination centres running so they can be spun up at the end of autumn for any covid booster jags as well as the annual flu jags and offer people both - move more people into the qualifying category for influenza jags dependent on supply. I simply cannot see the public accepting such mixed messaging when they've been sold on the idea that the vaccinations are the way out of this misery and are, quite rightly, clinging on to that hope to get through the last quarter of this lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Real Maroonblood Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: She missed out their first title win and the police will deal with the lockdown breakers accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Baton charge. Tear gas and water cannons. Mass arrests. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: She missed out their first title win and the police will deal with the lockdown breakers accordingly. How are the police dealing with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, Nookie Bear said: How are the police dealing with it? The Police are there with their Gers taps under their uniforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Baton charge. Tear gas and water cannons. Mass arrests. Sorted. She'll be damned if she does something and damned if she doesn't. If they were minded, the SG could probably identify the organisers of the gathering from social media posts and police surveillance videos, then fine them. Edited March 7, 2021 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: How are the police dealing with it? Exactly. Maybe they’re doing what they do at matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: The Police are there with their Gers taps under their uniforms Your probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, Footballfirst said: She'll be damned is she does something and damned if she doesn't. If they were minded, the SG could probably identify the organisers of the gathering from social media posts and police surveillance videos, then fine them. Would it not be easier just to arrest them on the spot rather than spending their time browsing Facebook? This sends out a message that gatherings are fine and I fully intend to ignore all rules from now on. I hope everyone else does the same and starts opening shops...and football grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Would it not be easier just to arrest them on the spot rather than spending their time browsing Facebook? This sends out a message that gatherings are fine and I fully intend to ignore all rules from now on. I hope everyone else does the same and starts opening shops...and football grounds. The police view would be that it is safer to make the arrests after the event, rather than risk a violent reaction if they went to arrest individuals in a crowd. Edited March 7, 2021 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray Gin said: Looking great for Edinburgh reaching Level 1 now when restrictions are eased. Let's hope those numbers keep dropping when all the school kids return. Id rather be at Level zero. It seems no one is even aspiring to this. The SG included. 2 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said: So we need to be ready for these new variants that willl come into the country? And how will these variants arrive here? By plane and train etc as people visit this county and return from holidays abroad? I give up too. It's about time they gagged all these PHE and other so called experts. One singer one song as my Granny used to say Nope we need to just accept there will be a certain level of deaths due to covid and get on with our lives. Open up the economy and get people out and about enjoying a normal tier less and tearless life. The vaccination programme has been an outstanding success and will ensure that those most vulnerable will not become ill from it or at least seriously ill. We have done as much as we can and now need to accept we cant go backwards. 1 hour ago, DETTY29 said: Looking good to head that way but similarly if we are to go to L1 I think we need to be a bit below 20. I really don't want to be in a tier for a week or so, things open up and back up a tier we go. You not wanting level zero either ? 1 hour ago, Gizmo said: We've got flu vaccines - if they really are predicting a loss of immunity due to lockdown (which isn't how immunity works from everything I've read and digested over the last year and a bit so I don't really understand this at all), then order more flu vaccines. We've stuck to severe restrictions, at great social and economic cost, because we can see the rationale and the need to prevent spread of the virus and deaths (which hit the most deprived in society hardest - another reason I haven't countenanced just shrugging my shoulders at "X" number of deaths and demanding a premature end to the lockdowns). Now that we are running a superb mass-vaccination programme that has to be the way forward. Get the booster vaccines prepped NOW for sequenced mutations, keep the mass vaccination centres running so they can be spun up at the end of autumn for any covid booster jags as well as the annual flu jags and offer people both - move more people into the qualifying category for influenza jags dependent on supply. I simply cannot see the public accepting such mixed messaging when they've been sold on the idea that the vaccinations are the way out of this misery and are, quite rightly, clinging on to that hope to get through the last quarter of this lockdown. see my other comment 7 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Baton charge. Tear gas and water cannons. Mass arrests. Sorted. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I’d be very surprised if the big city populous goes straight to tier 2, irrespective of the data. They will want to make sure things don’t start going in wrong direction, so it very unlikely the first realise will enable hospitality and everyone mixing. It will be a gradual release with a stage/gate approach hopefully a quick one. The SG have stated the unlocking will be cautious, i don’t see lifting from tier 4 into tier 2. Hopefully I’m wrong. Sadly i think you are right. Their over cautious approach will prevail. irrespective of any stats which may indicate what level we should be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The police view would be that it is safer to make the arrests after the event, rather than risk a violent reaction if they went to arrest individuals in a crowd. Will see how many arrests are made this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: I’d be very surprised if the big city populous goes straight to tier 2, irrespective of the data. They will want to make sure things don’t start going in wrong direction, so it very unlikely the first realise will enable hospitality and everyone mixing. It will be a gradual release with a stage/gate approach hopefully a quick one. The SG have stated the unlocking will be cautious, i don’t see lifting from tier 4 into tier 2. Hopefully I’m wrong. I agree. It’s more than likely Edinburgh will go to Tier3 for a few weeks then hopefully down to Tier2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 On the vaccine supply by last Sunday, Scotland had been allocated 2,138,450 vaccines of which 1,886,160 had been delivered to NHS Scotland with 1,690,443 vaccines administered (196k difference), which then needs to be allocated to the individual health boards or however, it works. I don't think it is unreasonable to be holding a week's supply of vaccine in stock. We just cannot risk cancelling appointments. As of last night we had administered 1,875,680 vaccines with still today's vaccines to add in, so pretty much everything we had was going back into arms I'm not convinced as such the vaccine numbers will drop next week because the isn't supply there, it's more a case of being sensible and mitigating the risk of a monumental eff up outside the control of the NHS Scotland vaccination teams. Here is where we are at across age groups. The original assumption was that take up would be 80%. These figures are unbelievable and actually put pressure on starting next age cohorts. AGE REV TAR 1ST ACTUAL 1ST %AGE 2ND ACTUAL 2ND %AGE 80+ 269894 262370 97.21 14685 5.44 75-79 195951 194239 99.13 2660 1.36 70-74 278856 277956 99.68 2152 0.77 65-69 299444 287965 96.17 3818 1.28 60-64 344693 142367 41.30 10088 2.93 55-59 393123 136480 34.72 14958 3.80 50-54 401090 114705 28.60 14634 3.65 40-49 680890 148099 21.75 21405 3.14 30-39 721985 106402 14.74 17577 2.43 16-29 955977 89126 9.32 13951 1.46 TOTAL 4541903 1759709 38.74 115928 2.55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: Baton charge. Tear gas and water cannons. Mass arrests. Sorted. NS should ask permission for the British Army to be used, all for the greater good. Water cannoned with the old green goddesses should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Id rather be at Level zero. It seems no one is even aspiring to this. The SG included. Nope we need to just accept there will be a certain level of deaths due to covid and get on with our lives. Open up the economy and get people out and about enjoying a normal tier less and tearless life. The vaccination programme has been an outstanding success and will ensure that those most vulnerable will not become ill from it or at least seriously ill. We have done as much as we can and now need to accept we cant go backwards. You not wanting level zero either ? see my other comment lol We'd all rather be at level 0 but it's not a very realistic target for April at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: The police view would be that it is safer to make the arrests after the event, rather than risk a violent reaction if they went to arrest individuals in a crowd. I thought the police had regularly been breaking up house parties/organised raves etc throughout lockdown. What is any different about breaking up a party of Rangers fans in George Sq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 They are aspiring to level 0. It's the aspiration to be realised by not... like... haring straight from lockdown to level 0, all in one fell swoop. Everyone will get level 0 by everyone playing a part and sharing the burden of going from one stage to the next as the virus and our interventions allow. You would think it would be quite a simple concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: NS should ask permission for the British Army to be used, all for the greater good. Water cannoned with the old green goddesses should do. You'd put your garden variety hun scumbag in a terrible position, simultaneously foaming at the gash at the sight of the British Army in George Square whilst resisting their attempts to give them a long overdue bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doogz Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Everyone will get level 0 by everyone playing a part and sharing the burden of going from one stage to the next as the virus and our interventions allow Well given the scenes in Glasgow yet again today it looks like the concept of us all doing our part is well & truly screwed then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 PEOPLE MAKE GLASGOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, Doogz said: Well given the scenes in Glasgow yet again today it looks like the concept of us all doing our part is well & truly screwed then. Almost. It's people not giving a **** like those scenes that perfectly demonstrates why we can't go straight to level 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Doogz said: Well given the scenes in Glasgow yet again today it looks like the concept of us all doing our part is well & truly screwed then. The same bangers out celebrating today will be the first to moan about wee nippy not opening up quickly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Victorian said: They are aspiring to level 0. It's the aspiration to be realised by not... like... haring straight from lockdown to level 0, all in one fell swoop. Everyone will get level 0 by everyone playing a part and sharing the burden of going from one stage to the next as the virus and our interventions allow. You would think it would be quite a simple concept. A genuine concern I have is that under level 0 rules there are still very substantial restrictions. I haven’t seen anyone outline a plan for zero restrictions. for example, under level zero you still can’t meet a group of mates and go for a beer. That’s not life as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: NS should ask permission for the British Army to be used, all for the greater good. Water cannoned with the old green goddesses should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: NS should ask permission for the British Army to be used, all for the greater good. Water cannoned with the old green goddesses should do. Jezz ! maybe they should shoot them all dead ?????????? dearie me 28 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: It’s frustrating cause we all want out this shit show. At least we have a end in sight, hopefully the tiers get jacked early in summer and we have a national approach with some ‘protective’ measures probably remaining, such as social distancing but in effect that’s us back to normal. In someways that when the real problems start as we lift our heads from the immediate thread of COVID and fully understand the extent of the damage. Personally, would rather we came singularly for a variety of reasons but that’s seems unlikely under current plans Yes i agree 27 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: We'd all rather be at level 0 but it's not a very realistic target for April at present. Yes i understand that I meant eventually. Ive never heard anyone from SG actually state that they are aspiring to be back to normality. It always seems to be at a level 1 . 2 . 3 etc. Unlike BJ. 19 minutes ago, Victorian said: They are aspiring to level 0. It's the aspiration to be realised by not... like... haring straight from lockdown to level 0, all in one fell swoop. Everyone will get level 0 by everyone playing a part and sharing the burden of going from one stage to the next as the virus and our interventions allow. You would think it would be quite a simple concept. NO i didnt think we would get out in one feel swoop. I didnt say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: A genuine concern I have is that under level 0 rules there are still very substantial restrictions. I haven’t seen anyone outline a plan for zero restrictions. for example, under level zero you still can’t meet a group of mates and go for a beer. That’s not life as normal. Exactly there has been no discussion or planning regarding zero restrictions. Thats my concern , People just accepting the crumbs of each level...there has to be a plan for zero restrictions. What is the critieria?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: A genuine concern I have is that under level 0 rules there are still very substantial restrictions. I haven’t seen anyone outline a plan for zero restrictions. for example, under level zero you still can’t meet a group of mates and go for a beer. That’s not life as normal. Scotland will have to harmonise with England at some point. It's absolutely unavoidable. Hopefully harmonise in a good context rather than England being forced to reinstate lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nookie Bear Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Good to see the police helping out 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Police leading the march The unionists will be loving this coverage of Scotland! Shame it's meant to just be a fecking football game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Exactly there has been no discussion or planning regarding zero restrictions. Thats my concern , People just accepting the crumbs of each level...there has to be a plan for zero restrictions. What is the critieria?????? Why do they need to announce what zero restrictions will look like once there's no need for the Level system? There will be no restrictions and life will be back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Why do they need to announce what zero restrictions will look like once there's no need for the Level system? There will be no restrictions and life will be back to normal. I meant what criteria is there for zero restrictions ? No cases ? sorry infections, no deaths.? no one in IC? . no one in hospital? What is the endgame ? What will be an acceptable compromise to have zero restrictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: I meant what criteria is there for zero restrictions ? No cases ? sorry infections, no deaths.? no one in IC? . no one in hospital? What is the endgame ? What will be an acceptable compromise to have zero restrictions? Once the vaccination programme is complete would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Just now, Ray Gin said: Once the vaccination programme is complete would be my guess. Yes I would hope that would be the major indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Exactly there has been no discussion or planning regarding zero restrictions. Thats my concern , People just accepting the crumbs of each level...there has to be a plan for zero restrictions. What is the critieria?????? The WHO guidelines look like the criteria that will be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 So. Went back to work Monday after 10 days isolation. Out for a walk with the dog this avvy. Phone pings. Test and trace app. Was in close contact with a positive case Thursday. Another 10 days isolation To think I thought 2021 had to be better than last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Gizmo said: You'd put your garden variety hun scumbag in a terrible position, simultaneously foaming at the gash at the sight of the British Army in George Square whilst resisting their attempts to give them a long overdue bath. I remember reading a report from a squaddie about the first shots fired at the army during the 70s. He reported that rioters were singing GSTQ as the army were taking cover from snipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: So. Went back to work Monday after 10 days isolation. Out for a walk with the dog this avvy. Phone pings. Test and trace app. Was in close contact with a positive case Thursday. Another 10 days isolation To think I thought 2021 had to be better than last year Jesus what’s the odd of that ! Hopefully you’ll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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