Arthur Morgan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Because Scotland is a footballing backwater with no interest outside of Scotland. Because he doesn't want to live in Scotland. Because he wants too much money, because he has his eye on another job. If someone like Cotterill is interested I don't see why Stendel wouldn't be. Barnsley vs Edinburgh? No brainer. I very much doubt he would want too much money. He's been out of a job for a while now so it doesn't look like he has one lined up. Edited November 15, 2019 by Arthur Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: Based on what? Why would he be interested? Come to a 2 horse league where there is a very slim chance of winning anything. Just because we think managing Hearts is a great job, he'd probably be far better off waiting for a Championship job to come up. As I said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Because Scotland is a footballing backwater with no interest outside of Scotland. Because he doesn't want to live in Scotland. Because he wants too much money, because he has his eye on another job. Regards your last 2 sentences. Is this fact or your own supposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Regards your last 2 sentences. Is this fact or your own supposition? I was giving potential reasons to why he wouldn't want to come, not facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, jambopilms said: I was giving potential reasons to why he wouldn't want to come, not facts He might want to live in Scotland and maybe money is not his priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 AB isn't daft enough not to give this guy an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, rudi must stay said: AB isn't daft enough not to give this guy an interview We don't even know if he applied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Dufner Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: AB isn't daft enough not to give this guy an interview But she gave Stuart McCall one? So I’d say yes she is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, ericb said: We don't even know if he applied That’s the frustrating thing not knowing who’s applied. Standard procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, ericb said: We don't even know if he applied Pretty sure he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: AB isn't daft enough not to give this guy an interview Can you imagine her blank expression when one of her assistants informs her that some guy called Daniel Stendel is miles ahead in the kb poll to be next manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Because Scotland is a footballing backwater with no interest outside of Scotland. Because he doesn't want to live in Scotland. Because he wants too much money, because he has his eye on another job. scotland is nicer than Barnsley we are a bigger club than Barnsley we are a wealthier club than Barnsley the last point may be valid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: scotland is nicer than Barnsley we are a bigger club than Barnsley we are a wealthier club than Barnsley the last point may be valid Think about the pre season friendlies no more going to pishy Fife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874_and_proud Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 He has only coached 100 games, hardly the CV we are looking for. From To Record Ref. G W D L GF GA GD Win % Hannover 96 3 April 2016 19 March 2017 34 17 9 8 59 44 +15 50.00 [7] Barnsley 6 June 2018 8 October 2019 66 31 18 17 105 76 +29 46.97 [12] Total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: scotland is nicer than Barnsley we are a bigger club than Barnsley we are a wealthier club than Barnsley the last point may be valid Exactly. Dunno why people have to be so negative about our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: scotland is nicer than Barnsley we are a bigger club than Barnsley we are a wealthier club than Barnsley the last point may be valid Realistic chance of European football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfhearts Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 The kickback few have chosen god help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lfhearts said: The kickback few have chosen god help us. 😆 Decided last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) There could be dozens of reasons he would or wouldn't want to come. Nobody knows if he does or doesn't but just because we want him to come, it doesn't mean he wants to. Blame Budge is the only logical thing to do. Edited November 15, 2019 by jambopilms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, jambopilms said: There could be dozens of reasons he would or wouldn't want to come. Nobody knows if he does or doesn't but just because we want him to it doesn't mean he wants too. Blame Budge is the only logical thing to do. Exactly ! Everybody wants to be an expert on appointing a new head coach but unfortunately we don't know the facts to judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, 1874_and_proud said: He has only coached 100 games, hardly the CV we are looking for. From To Record Ref. G W D L GF GA GD Win % Hannover 96 3 April 2016 19 March 2017 34 17 9 8 59 44 +15 50.00 [7] Barnsley 6 June 2018 8 October 2019 66 31 18 17 105 76 +29 46.97 [12] Total That's what I was thinking good luck to the lad and even more luck to him if he gets our job. But i can't see why the big thing is to get him in And if he was that good surely hed be getting bigger jobs than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said: As I said above. So, based on nothing but maroon tinted assumptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: So, based on nothing but maroon tinted assumptions? Apart from it being a 2 horse race, nothing else you said is a fact either... I think my views are pretty reasonable and realistic actually, it's not Jurgen Klopp we're talking about here, it's an ex Barnsley manager; a team that are smaller than Hearts. Edited November 15, 2019 by Arthur Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, rudi must stay said: Pretty sure he has How? Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: How? Evidence? Why wouldn't he Good job, he's out of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyowalnut Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Arthur Morgan said: Apart from it being a 2 horse race, nothing else you said is a fact either... I think my views are pretty reasonable and realistic actually, it's not Jurgen Klopp we're talking about here, it's an ex Barnsley manager; a team that are smaller than Hearts. I said it is a 2 horse race...fact! Slim chance of winning a trophy...fact! A job in the English championship is bigger than a job outside Celtic and Rangers in Scotland...unfortunate fact! I want the best candidate, but I'm also realistic. Im not going to throw a huff just because AB doesnt appoint a German chap, who I'm guessing hardly anyone has heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, tokyowalnut said: I said it is a 2 horse race...fact! Slim chance of winning a trophy...fact! A job in the English championship is bigger than a job outside Celtic and Rangers in Scotland...unfortunate fact! I want the best candidate, but I'm also realistic. Im not going to throw a huff just because AB doesnt appoint a German chap, who I'm guessing hardly anyone has heard of. I did agree with you on the 2 horse race. You didn't claim the Championship was a bigger league, why would I disagree with that anyway? Of course it's a better league but all you said was he would be better off waiting for a Championship job. I don't see any Championship club that's interested in him do you? You aren't being realistic, you're actually being pretty negative, talking down our chances of signing an ex Barnsley manager. We aren't Accrington Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said: Apart from it being a 2 horse race, nothing else you said is a fact either... I think my views are pretty reasonable and realistic actually, it's not Jurgen Klopp we're talking about here, it's an ex Barnsley manager; a team that are smaller than Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 No idea why some Hearts fans continue to slag off Scottish football, low bowl what Hearts can pay & what we are capble of as well as put the likes of League 1 and various Championship teams on a pedestal in comparison merely to suit their own argument. Kinda pishy patter tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-approach-daniel-stendel-face-major-stumbling-block-1311471 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hearts have approached Daniel Stendel about their managerial vacancy but face a major stumbling block if they want the German coach to succeed Craig Levein. Stendel is still awaiting a pay-off from former club Barnsley after being sacked last month. He left the English Championship club following a run of one win in ten games but is still under contract until the end of the season. His severance package is still being negotiated and shows no sign of being finalised quickly, meaning he is unlikely to become a realistic option for Hearts any time soon. The Edinburgh club would need to pay a substantial six-figure sum to get the 45-year-old out of his Barnsley agreement should they decide to follow up their initial approach through his representatives. Stendel was a popular figure during his 16-month tenure in Yorkshire, guiding Barnsley to automatic promotion from League One in May. He was relieved of his duties six weeks ago and 24 hours later was spotted drinking with locals in a pub as fans thanked him for his efforts. Hearts are currently weighing up whether to approach Motherwell for permission to speak with their manager, Stephen Robinson, about the job at Tynecastle Park. However, they do not plan to interview the former Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg coach Felix Magath. Club officials have informed the 66-year-old that they will not take his application for the role further. Magath submitted his CV to Ann Budge last week and hoped for the chance to impress the Hearts owner in person. Hearts did not give Magath a reason for their decision, merely stating that his application would not be progressing to an interview. The club have already spoken with Stuart McCall, Neil McCann, Steve Cotterill, Alan Irvine and Jack Ross about the manager's job - although Ross has since taken over at city rivals Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Would 100 per cent take stendel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Had to be a catch eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Money wouldn't be a problem Budge said. I think she simply has to appoint Stendel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 If we can offer him a deal then then this would surely reduce Barnsley's liability as otherwise he gets remunerated twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Caretaker till its sorted then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 These things can normally be agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: Caretaker till its sorted then. That's my thoughts too, I would be happy with this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Anonymous Benefactor possibly for getting the chequebook out again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I would think Hearts should tell Stendel that if he is interested in the job he needs to resolve things with Barnsley first. No way we should be compensating them for a manager they have sacked. (Although if someone offers Levein a job between now and the summer I might need to rethink that!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 15/11/2019 at 20:00, jambopilms said: Because Scotland is a footballing backwater with no interest outside of Scotland. Because he doesn't want to live in Scotland. Because he wants too much money, because he has his eye on another job. If he's been kicking about Barnsley for the last wee while, then I'm quite sure he's not going to be put off by Edinburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Some of this will be on Stendel too. Madness to pony up all of the cash for his severance. I totally get the interest in him, but it largely remains potential rather than proven track record. Paying him out for his last failing is not really great business acumen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 If this has any chance of happening I will be delighted. I’d even suggest signing him on a pre till the summer, give MacPhee the job till then. Stendel can then arrive almost Burley esq and get a buzz about the place. Coming in mid season can always turn bad quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Some of this will be on Stendel too. Madness to pony up all of the cash for his severance. I totally get the interest in him, but it largely remains potential rather than proven track record. Paying him out for his last failing is not really great business acumen No it isn't but this guys what we need. 100%, Ann will know that I was late to the party so to speak but fair play to other posters, he is the perfect appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Some of this will be on Stendel too. Madness to pony up all of the cash for his severance. I totally get the interest in him, but it largely remains potential rather than proven track record. Paying him out for his last failing is not really great business acumen There is no way we would pay out his severance package. What we would be doing is paying him a decent wage, therefore reducing/eliminating the package Barnsley need to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Some of this will be on Stendel too. Madness to pony up all of the cash for his severance. I totally get the interest in him, but it largely remains potential rather than proven track record. Paying him out for his last failing is not really great business acumen He won English League One and managed in the Bundesliga ... A lot more than potential. Neilson had potential. This would be a very very exciting appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I was having a wee look on the Tykes' forum, and found this: http://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38250706 I don't recognise the language however. Maybe Google translate is an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsk1210 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I was having a wee look on the Tykes' forum, and found this: http://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38250706 I don't recognise the language however. Maybe Google translate is an option? Wow, you were not kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I was having a wee look on the Tykes' forum, and found this: http://boards.footymad.net/showthread.php?t=38250706 I don't recognise the language however. Maybe Google translate is an option? What have I just read? It was like looking at the Matrix... Yerm gem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50487784 "Barnsley have named Wolfsberger AC boss Gerhard Struber as their new head coach on a contract until 2022." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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