HEARTS FOREVER Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: He’s German and Germans are fashionable Plays high pressure attacking football.. the exact opposite of the dross we’ve been watching for 3 years. players seemed to love him Barnsley fans definitely Loved him, got them on board quickly Doesn’t come with a reason to dislike him unlike some other candidates Available not one of the Scottish football old guard battered Jack Ross in the league with far less resources This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, HEARTS FOREVER said: This agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, Suso Santana said: Yeah, well, fair enough, you've done that for me. What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you believe that McCann has been interviewed? I’ve absolutely no idea who’s been interviewed but I don’t believe that all those mentioned in the press have attended interviews. Whatever happens I don’t think that McCann is the right man for the job and doesn’t fit my interpretation of the criteria that Ann stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I’ve absolutely no idea who’s been interviewed but I don’t believe that all those mentioned in the press have attended interviews. Whatever happens I don’t think that McCann is the right man for the job and doesn’t fit my interpretation of the criteria that Ann stated. Agreed. Would you consider Macphee for the job if he pulls off a good win against Kilmarnock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, vegas-voss said: Just cause he isn't from the UK doesn't mean he won't fear playing those two. That's correct but beyond having heard of them, I doubt if he'll know much about them and there is no reason to believe he would have any fear of them. That's what I loved about Burley's team. Guys like Takis, Rudi and Roman absolutely couldn't give a toss about the OF. I hope whoever we choose has that mindset and transmits it to every player. Crucial imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Suso Santana said: Agreed. Would you consider Macphee for the job if he pulls off a good win against Kilmarnock? No. Two wins out of three games isn’t enough evidence for me. If he were to win four games on the trot well then it certainly sets a question I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: No. Two wins out of three games isn’t enough evidence for me. If he were to win four games on the trot well then it certainly sets a question I reckon. Like OLG did at Man U? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Pizzorno Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 @AndyNic with people on strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, davemclaren said: No. Two wins out of three games isn’t enough evidence for me. If he were to win four games on the trot well then it certainly sets a question I reckon. You'd have to consider him if he went on a winning run but he has a fit Naismith available, so in my opinion, his record wouldn't show us the full story. I think he has something to offer us but i'm not sure there's a role available to him. Or one he would take anyway. Edited November 20, 2019 by Suso Santana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: He’s German and Germans are fashionable Plays high pressure attacking football.. the exact opposite of the dross we’ve been watching for 3 years. players seemed to love him Barnsley fans definitely Loved him, got them on board quickly Doesn’t come with a reason to dislike him unlike some other candidates Available not one of the Scottish football old guard battered Jack Ross in the league with far less resources But yet this season his team fired more blanks than the territorials He's a gamble but he's one of the most interesting on the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Saint Jambo said: Given that we aren't blaming him for the relegation, perhaps we also shouldn't be claiming that him managing 6 games in the Bundesliga when the team were already doomed to relegation is evidence that he has more than potential. Think to be describing someone who has managerial experience in two English leagues and two German leagues, as having potential, is a bit ignorant! All about opinions I suppose ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug297 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-approach-daniel-stendel-face-major-stumbling-block-1311471 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Doug297 said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-approach-daniel-stendel-face-major-stumbling-block-1311471 That was news 7 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous 1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Stendel chat starting to accelerate on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I received a text saying it would be announced tomorrow but ill believe it when i see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doug297 said: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/latest-hearts-news/hearts-approach-daniel-stendel-face-major-stumbling-block-1311471 Read that earlier. that was a weird take On the situation. Why would we pay compensation for a manager who has been sacked? The more likely scenario is that we are trying to negotiate how much a week we are paying which could reduce the compensation from Barnsley. Similar to naisy and lafferty when moved from norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Suso Santana said: Punted for not winning a single game in 10 and we're getting excited about this guy? They sold majority of his best players and expected him to produce in a very difficult league. Edited November 20, 2019 by MacPhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I have zero issues with an agreement that he joins us once the situation with Barnsley is agreed and we keep MacPhee till Xmas. Gives him till then to watch the team and assess them plus a window to make corrections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Read that earlier. that was a weird take On the situation. Why would we pay compensation for a manager who has been sacked? The more likely scenario is that we are trying to negotiate how much a week we are paying which could reduce the compensation from Barnsley. Similar to naisy and lafferty when moved from norwich Think Banderson might be a bit wide of the mark this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Sorry to piss on everyone's chips, but people are probably saying it'll be announced tomorrow because they read the wind-up on here from earlier today. While I'm at it, his odds at the bookies are shortening because people are reading rumours and putting money on; not because the bookies are privy to by-the-minute updates on Hearts manager search. Taking money from mugs is their speciality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Posted last night and as far as I’m aware nothing has changed. Stendal is in the running to become our manager unless someone vastly more suitable comes along. There’s a few things needing ironed out, the Barnsley situation for one. Looks positive but we’ll also continue speaking to other folk in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22games nro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 well His No2 at Barnsley chris stern has just left Barnsley !!! think it was earlier today but not 100% sure, 2 and 2 = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, MacPhee said: They sold majority of his best players and expected him to produce in a very difficult league. I'd rather take a risk on him than the majority of the names that have been mentioned, i just don't feel all that excited about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I am very much on the Stendel train now. Does this mean MacPhee announced as SD and Stendel as manager at 2pm tomorrow then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Horatio Caine said: Like OLG did at Man U? Yip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suso Santana Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, the general said: Think Banderson might be a bit wide of the mark this time I think he's still employed by the club (not sacked, gardening leave) So we would still need to sort the financials out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 If he does come in, his first game will most likely be Rangers at Ibrox. If he goes out there to attack and not play 11 behind the ball he'll have surpassed Levein for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Suso Santana said: I'd rather take a risk on him than the majority of the names that have been mentioned, i just don't feel all that excited about it. i think he would be a good appointment and get us playing fast flowing attacking football again. i havent seen any names that are exciting bar this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVodka Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, kila said: I am very much on the Stendel train now. Does this mean MacPhee announced as SD and Stendel as manager at 2pm tomorrow then? I’d be happy with that. MacPhee should keep a role at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Read that earlier. that was a weird take On the situation. Why would we pay compensation for a manager who has been sacked? The more likely scenario is that we are trying to negotiate how much a week we are paying which could reduce the compensation from Barnsley. Similar to naisy and lafferty when moved from norwich He’s not been sacked though. He’s on garden leave I believe but if he’s in demand then Barnsley will likely see him as an asset with some value so there will be a 3 way negotiation to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I'd read Barnsley match reports and interviews. Just done this, selling ourselves short, if it is him. Start games well but generally get run over the top. Tin hat on, his post match comments are echoes of Levein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22games nro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 yep 5 minutes ago, 22games nro said: well His No2 at Barnsley chris stern has just left Barnsley !!! think it was earlier today but not 100% sure, 2 and 2 = ? confirmed on Barnsley website that he left today, ps he is also German Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Could be related but may also be because Barnsley have just appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, lsimp77 said: If he does come in, his first game will most likely be Rangers at Ibrox. If he goes out there to attack and not play 11 behind the ball he'll have surpassed Levein for me. Even if we lose by 8 goals? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Seems a lot of Sunderland fans are annoyed that they never approached Stendel. Would be a good fit for me. Will take a couple of transfer windows to get the right players in for his pressing style though. Whether some of the support have the patience for that, I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Gio said: I'd read Barnsley match reports and interviews. Just done this, selling ourselves short, if it is him. Start games well but generally get run over the top. Tin hat on, his post match comments are echoes of Levein Sold both there best two CB’s and star striker without replacing them when they got promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22games nro Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Mort said: Could be related but may also be because Barnsley have just appointed. aye , altohugh the talk was he would be staying on, maybe nothing but maybe something 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Even if we lose by 8 goals? 😄 As long as he doesn't instruct the players to kick it out for a throw in straight from kick off i'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djnoisy Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/thank-you-chris-stern.285404/ Another one liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, lsimp77 said: As long as he doesn't instruct the players to kick it out for a throw in straight from kick off i'll be happy. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I can understand some of the scepticism towards Stendel as a reaction to the unchecked optimism around him when he was first mentioned on here. That said, all candidates we're likely to be able to attract are going to have question marks over them, so it's a case of risk vs. reward. The riskiness of the appointment compared to the other candidates obviously depends on how much more expensive he'll be, but the chances of a high reward seem much better than those of any other candidates mentioned so far. That's why he's an attractive option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: He’s not been sacked though. He’s on garden leave I believe but if he’s in demand then Barnsley will likely see him as an asset with some value so there will be a 3 way negotiation to be had. To be fair technically heckingbottom on gardening leave but you would say he had been sacked by hibs. Clubs can’t afford to pay off managers in full the way that they used to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: I'd read Barnsley match reports and interviews. Just done this, selling ourselves short, if it is him. Start games well but generally get run over the top. Tin hat on, his post match comments are echoes of Levein Fair points SG, it is undoubtedly a gamble. I think people are going to have to be really patient if he does come, coaching counter press takes a long time to get over to players and they also have to work incredibly hard. Like Bielsa's Leeds it's young man's football so we might see a lot of changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, Mort said: Could be related but may also be because Barnsley have just appointed. wouldn’t imagine they will be difficult to deal with, Stendel will just want a slice of cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, lsimp77 said: If he does come in, his first game will most likely be Rangers at Ibrox. If he goes out there to attack and not play 11 behind the ball he'll have surpassed Levein for me. Getting humped by a much better team, great plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsimp77 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: Getting humped by a much better team, great plan. Better than sitting back and accepting defeat before kick off Edited November 20, 2019 by lsimp77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 22games nro said: yep confirmed on Barnsley website that he left today, ps he is also German You've got me worried now...... Edited November 20, 2019 by scott herbertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Morgan Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Djnoisy said: http://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/thank-you-chris-stern.285404/ Another one liked. They've even mentioned maybe planning a trip to Tynecastle to watch a match if Stendel is appointed 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Newton51 said: To be fair technically heckingbottom on gardening leave but you would say he had been sacked by hibs. Clubs can’t afford to pay off managers in full the way that they used to I know that but if you still have him under contract and someone wants him immediately then there’s potential value in that for a a club. Not a lot I imagine but still needs some negotiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: I’ve absolutely no idea who’s been interviewed but I don’t believe that all those mentioned in the press have attended interviews. Whatever happens I don’t think that McCann is the right man for the job and doesn’t fit my interpretation of the criteria that Ann stated. Well that will not happen considering we have Rangers at Ibrox next week and we all know how that will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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