Des Lynam Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, luckydug said: Wonder if Austin would be up for both the roles. SD Monday through to Wednesday then team boss the rest of the week. Donald Park could take the first team squad when AM not in attendance. You should apologise for this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sid said: what about if, rather than taking a risk and assessing against performance in a different league and different budget and different coaching structure, possibly different language and a glitzy interview, we could get the prospective candidate to perform the role on a trial period without any commitment. See if their strategy is different and better than the previous incumbent, see how he deals with underperforming players. How he fares home and away against lower and upper League teams. Then decide whether or no that candidate can deliver what we are looking for MASSIVELY reducing the risk of appointment. Or we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient and the fact that he may have the same ideas as the sacked manager through guilt by association. not saying McPhee is right. What I am saying is we have a free shot at trialing him in post and meantime progressing other avenues. why discard such an opportunity. because we are struggling at the wrong end of the league, if we give McPhee till Xmas and we are still struggling then we will have wasted 2 months (approx 12 matches) looking for a manager. Make the decision, no trial periods... it smacks of indecision, I’m afraid I don’t have faith in the correct choice being made on this. Edited November 23, 2019 by jbee647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, munro9 said: Problem with the “waiting game” is Budge has no clue what she’s doing and the experienced and high profile managers haven’t appeared at the wages we can pay. Should have gone for Ross imo but now we’re likely to end up with Austin until Xmas as there appears to be little alternative. Once again the football side of the “business” appears a mess buy heyho well sell some merchandise in the run up Xmas. I'd rather have Austin than Ross anytime. If we had appointed Ross there would have been loads on here complaining about being unambitious. In any case I thought the ITK wizards had decided that Austin was going to be SD. There isn't any of the candidates on the betting lists who I would say I had complete faith in. Perhaps there will be someone not listed. I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: You should apologise for this post. You take life too seriously ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, jbee647 said: because we are struggling at the wrong end of the league, if we give McPhee till Xmas and we are still struggling then we will have wasted 2 months (approx 12 matches) looking for a manager. Make the decision, no trial periods... it smacks of indecision, I’m afraid I don’t have faith in the correct choice being made on this. We've played one league game since Austin took over and won it convincingly. If that was a new manager that had that result and performance we'd all be happy . Why no give him another few games to see if he can keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorri1 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Whoever ends up getting it , I'll get behind them. Should Austin get it then clearly he could succeed and I'm sure that's what we'd all want. Regardless of the end though, I honestly feel the process just isn't right. This is the second time we've approached finding a new manager as though we are hiring for any random job. Whether it's right or wrong Football is different and I think we've just made ourselves look naive and exposed a lack of forward planning. Not saying it won't end well eventually but I do seriously question some of the footballing decisions that are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Sid said: what about if, rather than taking a risk and assessing against performance in a different league and different budget and different coaching structure, possibly different language and a glitzy interview, we could get the prospective candidate to perform the role on a trial period without any commitment. See if their strategy is different and better than the previous incumbent, see how he deals with underperforming players. How he fares home and away against lower and upper League teams. Then decide whether or no that candidate can deliver what we are looking for MASSIVELY reducing the risk of appointment. Or we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient and the fact that he may have the same ideas as the sacked manager through guilt by association. not saying McPhee is right. What I am saying is we have a free shot at trialing him in post and meantime progressing other avenues. why discard such an opportunity. Assuming you're talking about the SD post this makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 The bookies should give odds on the number of pages to guess the next manager (and odds for anyone to get it right) - they’d make a fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, jbee647 said: because we are struggling at the wrong end of the league, if we give McPhee till Xmas and we are still struggling then we will have wasted 2 months (approx 12 matches) looking for a manager. Make the decision, no trial periods... it smacks of indecision, I’m afraid I don’t have faith in the correct choice being made on this. Who said Christmas? I suggested Killie, Rangers from my description. His record so far on helping address the immediate issue. Played 1 won 1, improved the goal difference by 3. At that rate, we’ll be relegated by Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Sid said: what about if, rather than taking a risk and assessing against performance in a different league and different budget and different coaching structure, possibly different language and a glitzy interview, we could get the prospective candidate to perform the role on a trial period without any commitment. See if their strategy is different and better than the previous incumbent, see how he deals with underperforming players. How he fares home and away against lower and upper League teams. Then decide whether or no that candidate can deliver what we are looking for MASSIVELY reducing the risk of appointment. Or we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient and the fact that he may have the same ideas as the sacked manager through guilt by association. not saying McPhee is right. What I am saying is we have a free shot at trialing him in post and meantime progressing other avenues. why discard such an opportunity. No thanks. And as for “we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient” you need to look up the definition of the word quickly. I am happy to wait for the right person to be appointed, I just don’t think that person should be Austin McPhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenNaismith Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 AM will be 66/1 by 4.45pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Ive no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) A̶u̶s̶t̶i̶n̶ M̶a̶c̶P̶h̶e̶e̶ Edited November 23, 2019 by Ibrahim Tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said: No thanks. And as for “we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient” you need to look up the definition of the word quickly. I am happy to wait for the right person to be appointed, I just don’t think that person should be Austin McPhee. That’s 18 words? Anyway. Think we just about have our answer on McPhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 The big question is who is actually going to want to take over this thoroughly spineless bunch of players. Professionals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Levein will be bookies favourite soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masonic Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 cash out if u can he rejected job odds from 1/10 now 1/4 and it will keep getting bigger just like usual the punters taken for the mugs they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Think I'll stick a ten spot on Neil McCann Can't see any others wanting to take on this crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Masonic said: cash out if u can he rejected job odds from 1/10 now 1/4 and it will keep getting bigger just like usual the punters taken for the mugs they are He hasn't rejected job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Moyes linked with a return to Everton as interim manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 12 hours ago, jambocub said: We've played one league game since Austin took over and won it convincingly. If that was a new manager that had that result and performance we'd all be happy . Why no give him another few games to see if he can keep it up You still want to give him more time?? 3 games. 2 embarrassing defeats. One win v a pi$$ poor st Mirren. He isnt the guy to take us forward. A complete clear out needed and a proper football guy to take us forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 We’re going to end up with Stuart McCall or the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Think I'll stick a ten spot on Neil McCann Can't see any others wanting to take on this crap You may just make money on that , sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I'm actually thinking do we take someone until the end of the season as I'm not confident Budge will make the right choice? I'm pretty sure she'll be away at the end of the season so why should whoever comes in be stuck with a neil mccann or austin mcphee on a 3 year contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulp74 said: You still want to give him more time?? 3 games. 2 embarrassing defeats. One win v a pi$$ poor st Mirren. He isnt the guy to take us forward. A complete clear out needed and a proper football guy to take us forward. After today's result no Out of intrest who do you think should be in charge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Sid said: what about if, rather than taking a risk and assessing against performance in a different league and different budget and different coaching structure, possibly different language and a glitzy interview, we could get the prospective candidate to perform the role on a trial period without any commitment. See if their strategy is different and better than the previous incumbent, see how he deals with underperforming players. How he fares home and away against lower and upper League teams. Then decide whether or no that candidate can deliver what we are looking for MASSIVELY reducing the risk of appointment. Or we could discard such an opportunity in favour of appointing someone really quickly cos the fans are impatient and the fact that he may have the same ideas as the sacked manager through guilt by association. not saying McPhee is right. What I am saying is we have a free shot at trialing him in post and meantime progressing other avenues. why discard such an opportunity. Still happy to sit and wait with McPhee on trial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 18 hours ago, jambocub said: We've played one league game since Austin took over and won it convincingly. If that was a new manager that had that result and performance we'd all be happy . Why no give him another few games to see if he can keep it up Still think the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Appoint Wee Robbo, already. Ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Appoint Wee Robbo, already. Ffs! Hell no!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, PB21 said: Hell no!!!! Aye, let's appoint fecking Warnock or some other auld helmet, who doesn't give a feck if wee get relegated or not. We need Robbo/JJ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazinho88 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Aye, let's appoint fecking Warnock or some other auld helmet, who doesn't give a feck if wee get relegated or not. We need Robbo/JJ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said: Still think the same? I’d hope he doesn’t. The thing is, If a new manager had been in charge for the last two games everyone is of the understanding he’s needing time to bed in , impose his style and mentality on the team and assess the squad with his own eyes. All we’re getting just now is the same repetitive, uninspiring, morale sapping pish. The whole club club needs a lift and that means freshness. It’s amazing how that still doesn’t register with many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay James Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Debut 4 said: I’d hope he doesn’t. The thing is, If a new manager had been in charge for the last two games everyone is of the understanding he’s needing time to bed in , impose his style and mentality on the team and assess the squad with his own eyes. All we’re getting just now is the same repetitive, uninspiring, morale sapping pish. The whole club club needs a lift and that means freshness. It’s amazing how that still doesn’t register with many? Totally agree. We need someone who comes in and immediately the players know we need to perform for this guy or we'll be out the door ie a Burley/JJ type. We need someone that they respect and want to run through walls for. From the candidates mentioned so far, Warnock or Stendel fit that bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Finlay James said: Totally agree. We need someone who comes in and immediately the players know we need to perform for this guy or we'll be out the door ie a Burley/JJ type. We need someone that they respect and want to run through walls for. From the candidates mentioned so far, Warnock or Stendel fit that bill. Yip. And in turn you find out who wants to run through walls and who doesn’t. You then go about(in time) fixing the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Aye, let's appoint fecking Warnock or some other auld helmet, who doesn't give a feck if wee get relegated or not. We need Robbo/JJ now. Hahaha 🤣💩 classic kickback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Appoint Wee Robbo, already. Ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 It's becoming clear that we need a proven experienced manager. We are not In a position to experiment as relegation could become a real posability. The length of time it's taking is also a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, His name is said: It's becoming clear that we need a proven experienced manager. We are not In a position to experiment as relegation could become a real posability. The length of time it's taking is also a worry. Ann’s playing the long long long game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambocub Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Ethan Hunt said: Still think the same? No now no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Ann’s playing the long long long game. Ann don’t have a clue folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Ann don’t have a clue folks. If she’s getting advice from anyone that could be worrying who it is. Walter Smith’s name was mentioned. Ffs. You could imagine the names he would put forward. 😩🥵 Edited November 24, 2019 by The Real Maroonblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Ann don’t have a clue folks. Along with most people on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 hours ago, luckydug said: I'd rather have Austin than Ross anytime. If we had appointed Ross there would have been loads on here complaining about being unambitious. In any case I thought the ITK wizards had decided that Austin was going to be SD. There isn't any of the candidates on the betting lists who I would say I had complete faith in. Perhaps there will be someone not listed. I hope so. You would rather we had McPhee than Ross? Based on what? Ross had success at St Mirren and Alloa and a 50% win record , iirc, in League 1 with Sunderland. Appointing McPhee would be the least ambitious option of all. I do believe however that she will soon approach Motherwell to soeak to Robinson. There is no other viable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 21 hours ago, luckydug said: I'd rather have Austin than Ross anytime. If we had appointed Ross there would have been loads on here complaining about being unambitious. In any case I thought the ITK wizards had decided that Austin was going to be SD. There isn't any of the candidates on the betting lists who I would say I had complete faith in. Perhaps there will be someone not listed. I hope so. What a lot of utter 💩💩💩💩💩💩 You are saying that purely because Hibs have appointed him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 We need someone in pronto, or relegation is a real possibility, the international break was the perfect time to appoint a manager, but no, we're still dicking about, ffs I've got more chance of winning the lottery, than Anne making a decision on a manager, The clock is ticking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: Ann don’t have a clue folks. Who would you rather have Dumpster or Ann who saved the club and now has us financially secure with a new main stand in place. Her business acumen is superb. She wants a new manager who will stay for a good time and someone who will jump ship at first opportunity. Yes she needs help on footballing matters but blame the clowns giving her advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: We’re going to end up with Stuart McCall or the likes. I would take McCall right now. He will come in and sort the place out if nothing else. Has done it in this league before. Let’s be honest we are looking less attractive by the week to potential managers. He would be one of the better ones on a poor shortlist!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmreido Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Any potential manager watching that yesterday, would have second thoughts, might see it as a challenge too far. Whoever gets the gig, has got a massive job on their hands, massive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, rick witter said: I would take McCall right now. He will come in and sort the place out if nothing else. Has done it in this league before. Let’s be honest we are looking less attractive by the week to potential managers. He would be one of the better ones on a poor shortlist!!! Any manager we choose needs to have the backing of at least some fans and he’d be a massively unpopular option Edited November 24, 2019 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rmreido said: Any potential manager watching that yesterday, would have second thoughts, might see it as a challenge too far. Whoever gets the gig, has got a massive job on their hands, massive! Although I manage in a different industry everybody said to me when I moved why you want to go there? That place is a nightmare etc etc but as an ambitious manager it didn't stop me. If any manager looks at us and says no that's too much of a challenge for me they would be aswell doing something else Edited November 24, 2019 by bazman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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