frankblack Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, siegementality said: Aye, cos I’m the one who gave the quote right enough. It will be merged into the Levein Out thread like the 7 or 8 others on the front page, so if your post appeared elsewhere its going to appear about 5 times in a couple of pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Were also 180 mins away from another shite season despite having the luckiest draws in history. It's already been a decent season. I've enjoyed it. I think I'll enjoy the rest of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Yes, reaching 2 Semi finals is a decent return, that was the aim at the start of the season. The 3rd aim was European Football next season, we're 2 games away from that and if Celtic go through then I believe we qualify for the Europa League no matter the result. All boxes ticked. An opinion dressed up as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, frankblack said: You clearly are not happy to sit back and accept "mediocrity" as you create a post on here after every game to get the manager sacked going as far back as at least 2008. Your grasp on reality seems thin at best. Do i yeah? Ok good one, you got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, Artful Dodger said: It's already been a decent season. I've enjoyed it. I think I'll enjoy the rest of it as well. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Of course not. But that matters not much. ? Well it does actually. I’m sure that to some degree the ‘benefactors’ are fans of the club, or at least want to see the club be successful in a footballing sense. If I was handing a decent amount of money over to a football club I’d expect to see some footballing success. If I was handing money over merely for charitable reasons there are far better organisations to give it to than Hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Walter Bishop said: Come on, that is the benchmark? What about the performances week in week out? Would take a 2nd place and a team performing well over 2 semi finals all day long. Look at the struggle we had in the easiest cup run for years, debatable whether or not we deserved to beat the team at bottom of the championship! Things are far from perfect, but we have seen an improvement. We have a long way to go, but I still have faith that CL can achieve further progress next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, kila said: ???? Yes, like Levein, you are blaming the players. Not the coaches, tactics, manager etc. The new stand is really not eating into our budget to the point we struggle to beat ****ing second tier Partick Thistle at home in the big cup. That is clearly bollocks. The stand is still not paid off and finished, and we also had a new £1m hybrid pitch to pay for. Just as well our budget must be comparable to Man City's according to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Artful Dodger said: It's already been a decent season. I've enjoyed it. I think I'll enjoy the rest of it as well. And with that post you blew it. You’ve had your money’s worth though so fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturalOrder74 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 He’s got till the end of the season I don’t think any result could change that, we’ve just got to either suffer it or hope he can someone spark something special like he did at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, McCrae said: I disagree. I think it has impacted on the quality of player we could sign. Levein’s choice to sign Mulraney and send MacDonald out on loan. Also his choice to sit Cochrane on the naughty step. Also his choice to play players out of position for no apparent reason. Levein has pissed huge amounts of money away on players. New stand hardly impacted who he wants. Come on, we have FoH throwing money as well as benefactors at the stand. You need to wake up if you are giving Levein more time to **** it up even more because of the new stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, frankblack said: It will be merged into the Levein Out thread like the 7 or 8 others on the front page, so if your post appeared elsewhere its going to appear about 5 times in a couple of pages. Good. It’ll highlight how fecking clueless Levein is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: One point from that lot I’d imagine Wouldnt surprise me if its 0. I just cant bare to think of losing THAT game at Tynecastle. What an utter shite sorry state of affairs we are in. Its easily fixed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, frankblack said: That is clearly bollocks. The stand is still not paid off and finished, and we also had a new £1m hybrid pitch to pay for. Just as well our budget must be comparable to Man City's according to you. Indeed it is. We DID struggle past PTFC and if you can't see that then you are just trolling. Your Man City analogy is pure deflection from the shyte being served up, week in, week out. Edited March 16, 2019 by NANOJAMBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 minute ago, frankblack said: That is clearly bollocks. The stand is still not paid off and finished, and we also had a new £1m hybrid pitch to pay for. Just as well our budget must be comparable to Man City's according to you. Eh, I’m comparing our budget to the wee teams we consistently struggle to compete against. The new stand is not finished because money is being put into the squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, McCrae said: Things are far from perfect, but we have seen an improvement. We have a long way to go, but I still have faith that CL can achieve further progress next year. God help us. Season tickets are on the decline as it, if Levein remains in charge they will decrease again. Ticket sales for the semi will be telling, we wont sell anywhere near what we did for league cup semi, even though it is a much more winnable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgieRules22 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 We’re not wanting a witch hunt here as the guy clearly loves the club but even he must know that it’s just not working and we need fresh ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, kila said: Eh, I’m comparing our budget to the wee teams we consistently struggle to compete against. The new stand is not finished because money is being put into the squad! Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, siegementality said: Hearts manager Craig Levein: After the last couple of games I was hopeful we were back on track but we were lacking today in focus and aggression and I don't know why." Just let that sink in. I believe Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageThief Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Remarkable just how many of those who think Levein "needs to go NOW!!!111" find consolation in coming on here to post that he'll "never be sacked". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, kila said: Eh, I’m comparing our budget to the wee teams we consistently struggle to compete against. The new stand is not finished because money is being put into the squad! I genuinely hope you are right. But if you are then it's quite depressing to think the current team could be even worse than it is. Frankly if CL is going to be in charge next season then I hope all the available cash goes into paying off the stand because the last two seasons have been grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: God help us. Season tickets are on the decline as it, if Levein remains in charge they will decrease again. Ticket sales for the semi will be telling, we wont sell anywhere near what we did for league cup semi, even though it is a much more winnable game. You don’t know what season tickets sales are like...you got it horribly wrong last year ...remember. Your predicitions suck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: I genuinely hope you are right. But if you are then it's quite depressing to think the current team could be even worse than it is. Frankly if CL is going to be in charge next season then I hope all the available cash goes into paying off the stand because the last two seasons have been grim. at this moment I wouldn’t trust Levein and co to water my plants never mind give them a wad of cash to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, kila said: Eh, I’m comparing our budget to the wee teams we consistently struggle to compete against. The new stand is not finished because money is being put into the squad! No. It’s because our Directors have decided to spend more than was originally budgeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, 1971fozzy said: at this moment I wouldn’t trust Levein and co to water my plants never mind give them a wad of cash to spend Nor would I. His time/their time is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighalders Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I know why. He sets up not to get beat no matter who we are playing. The end result is losses to every one of the bottom 3 and struggle to beat the team bottom of the league below us. We are a mid table team now for as long as the guy who doesn't know is in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, indianajones said: Wouldnt surprise me if its 0. I just cant bare to think of losing THAT game at Tynecastle. What an utter shite sorry state of affairs we are in. Its easily fixed as well. Pumped first two games. Win the derby and the semi and everything will be all good again. Its a kind of predictable prediction in a way. Edited March 16, 2019 by Inch Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, McCrae said: You don’t know what season tickets sales are like...you got it horribly wrong last year ...remember. Your predicitions suck . What was your prediction for the match today? Mines was a loss and got called a bed wetter. Funny that eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, John Gentleman said: "I've got to credit Hamilton - they made things difficult for us. After the last couple of games I was hopeful we were back on track but we were lacking today in focus and aggression and I don't know why." Didn't he say much the same thing last season or is age catching up with me? I thought you were going to ask if that’s the kind of thing Cathro would’ve said, like it’s a shock that they would make it difficult for us. He says the same kind of thing after every poor result, that’s why you think heard it before . . . . you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, kila said: Eh, I’m comparing our budget to the wee teams we consistently struggle to compete against. The new stand is not finished because money is being put into the squad! Yes, and we had to replace pretty much our first team and half our youth setup after Cathro wrecked them. We haven't been able to source any decent wide players in January sadly, but perhaps the full back we signed this week will help once fit. The more immediate problem seems to be the first team coaches who can't coach any wide players to cross a ball or beat a player. They are supposed to prepare the players for the match and I think we need to look at their performance, and I think that is the first thing that is apparent from Levein's post-match interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: What was your prediction for the match today? Mines was a loss and got called a bed wetter. Funny that eh? What was your predictions for the Dundee and Partick games in the past week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, frankblack said: What was your predictions for the Dundee and Partick games in the past week? 1-0 win scrap at Dundee 1-1 win in extra time midweek. feel free to go and have a look ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inch Hearts Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: Yes, and we had to replace pretty much our first team and half our youth setup after Cathro wrecked them. We haven't been able to source any decent wide players in January sadly, but perhaps the full back we signed this week will help once fit. The more immediate problem seems to be the first team coaches who can't coach any wide players to cross a ball or beat a player. They are supposed to prepare the players for the match and I think we need to look at their performance, and I think that is the first thing that is apparent from Levein's post-match interview. Blame Cathro ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, McCrae said: I go to games every week. Don’t think any evidence that a majority want him to go. Would the booing today at HT&FT not indicate this. Have a look at this thread, there’s names I’ve not seen before coming out showing their disgust. Have a quick look at the clubs social media on Twitter/Facebook/Instagram and see even more complaints. Most of the Hearts fans I know want him to go, it’s quire a big number when I think about it. The tide has turned on him and it’s only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, McCrae said: You don’t know what season tickets sales are like...you got it horribly wrong last year ...remember. Your predicitions suck . First to admit i was shocked we sold as many as we did. However it was less than year before and if nothing changes will be the same again. There is no attraction whatsoever to go and watch what is being served up right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Inch Hearts said: Blame Cathro ???? You think we had a decent squad last season after Cathro was sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, indianajones said: Aberdeen, Rangers and Hibs. 3pts from 9 and he'll still be in a job*. Based on the fact we very rarely ever lose to Hibs at Tynecastle. Usually draws though, three wins since Admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Walter Bishop said: First to admit i was shocked we sold as many as we did. However it was less than year before and if nothing changes will be the same again. There is no attraction whatsoever to go and watch what is being served up right now. It was a few hundred down, which is therefore negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Would the booing today at HT&FT not indicate this. Have a look at this thread, there’s names I’ve not seen before coming out showing their disgust. Have a quick look at the clubs social media on Twitter/Facebook/Instagram and see even more complaints. Most of the Hearts fans I know want him to go, it’s quire a big number when I think about it. The tide has turned on him and it’s only a matter of time. Correct, You can now almost count on one hand the posters on here that are still backing Levein. And Personally i think from 2 or 3 of them its purely attention seeking/trolling call it what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, frankblack said: It was a few hundred down, which is therefore negligible. Still less, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said: God help us. Season tickets are on the decline as it, if Levein remains in charge they will decrease again. Ticket sales for the semi will be telling, we wont sell anywhere near what we did for league cup semi, even though it is a much more winnable game. As they were the last time he was manager, coincidence surely ??♂️? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Walter Bishop said: Still less, no? Statistically negligible. You need to compare 3 or 4 season sales to show a trend. A few hundred could be accounted for in terms of factors like price rises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, frankblack said: It was a few hundred down, which is therefore negligible. The perceived lack of season tickets is the only comfort blanket the doomongers can cling onto, last season's boot in the baws has silenced a good few, there's a few still hanging around but this season's sales will just about eradicate that pathetic argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: As they were the last time he was manager, coincidence surely ??♂️? You got the figures to show the season ticket sales from before his first spell through to after Robertson's time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, frankblack said: You think we had a decent squad last season after Cathro was sacked? 17 minutes ago, frankblack said: Yes, and we had to replace pretty much our first team and half our youth setup after Cathro wrecked them. We haven't been able to source any decent wide players in January sadly, but perhaps the full back we signed this week will help once fit. The more immediate problem seems to be the first team coaches who can't coach any wide players to cross a ball or beat a player. They are supposed to prepare the players for the match and I think we need to look at their performance, and I think that is the first thing that is apparent from Levein's post-match interview. How did Cathro wreck half our youth set up in 6 months of the job? Levein has signed nearly 30 players since Cathro left whilst being left with Berra/Souttar/Djoum/Smith? We are still awful to watch and around the same place in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Would the booing today at HT&FT not indicate this. Have a look at this thread, there’s names I’ve not seen before coming out showing their disgust. Have a quick look at the clubs social media on Twitter/Facebook/Instagram and see even more complaints. Most of the Hearts fans I know want him to go, it’s quire a big number when I think about it. The tide has turned on him and it’s only a matter of time. Yep definitely a sea change it’s obvious. The atmosphere in the stand today was not good. We’re we sat there was folk arguing with each other over Vanacek for instance. hes losing the fans slowly but surely. Legend or not when that seed is sown it usually gathers momentum as we know and there’s no way back. last thing anyone wants is for a Hearts great to get abuse and hounded out. He doesn’t deserve that so I do hope he gets us to the final etc obviously but then does the right thing. Love the guy but it’s not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: The perceived lack of season tickets is the only comfort blanket the doomongers can cling onto, last season's boot in the baws has silenced a good few, there's a few still hanging around but this season's sales will just about eradicate that pathetic argument. Well that's bollocks. How many points from the last 20 games ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 1971fozzy said: Yep definitely a sea change it’s obvious. The atmosphere in the stand today was not good. We’re we sat there was folk arguing with each other over Vanacek for instance. hes losing the fans slowly but surely. Legend or not when that seed is sown it usually gathers momentum as we know and there’s no way back. last thing anyone wants is for a Hearts great to get abuse and hounded out. He doesn’t deserve that so I do hope he gets us to the final etc obviously but then does the right thing. Love the guy but it’s not working As someone said we are more likely to get to and win a final under a new manager. He will get to the summer I think unless we lose to ICT/Hibs and drop our top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) I only hope it's down to his cluelessness and not the added factor that he's signed a team of dross. The first one is solvable, (in theory, anyhow) combine it with the second and it's back to square one, or worse. Edited March 17, 2019 by J.T.F.Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, frankblack said: You got the figures to show the season ticket sales from before his first spell through to after Robertson's time? They were put up on here last year, it’s a fact deal with it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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