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10 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said:

About half a dozen good signings there.  Shocking return.

 

Half a dozen?

 

And people call me a troll!

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annushorribilis III
1 hour ago, 1874robbo said:

Same here and it’s been wonderful on here ever since not having to look at his drivel 

I've just done the same. 

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50 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

 

     

The last two years signings.

 

Aaron Hickey - good

   
        Ben Garuccio - poor

Craig Halkett

Conor Washington

 
        Bobby Burns - very poor  Glenn Whelan  
        Callumn Morrison - poor Loic Damour  
        Clevid Dikamona - poor Joel Pereira  
        Colin Doyle - poor Jamie Walker  
        Conor Shaughnessy - poor Ryotaro Meshino  
        Craig Wighton - very poor Aidy White  
        David Vanecek - very poor    
        Jake Mulraney - poor    
        Jimmy Dunne - good    
        Oliver Bozanic - poor    
        Olly Lee - decent    
        Peter Haring - good    
        Ryan Edwards - poor    
        Sean Clare - poor     
       

Steven MacLean - poor

Uche - good

Zlamal - poor

 

Not many bombscares there IMO.

 

Overall very positive I would say.

   
             
             
             
             
             

This truly highlights how bad a manager we have. Terrible terrible quality of signings overall.

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3 minutes ago, Mort said:

This truly highlights how bad a manager we have. Terrible terrible quality of signings overall.

 

I disagree with some of your judgements, not all. Why do you jump from good to poor? Is there no average in your eyes?

 

Did you deliberately ignore the second list?

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2 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

I disagree with some of your judgements, not all. Why do you jump from good to poor? Is there no average in your eyes?

 

Did you deliberately ignore the second list?

What second list? I rated Olly Lee as decent. How many of those players could you say are good signings? Surely you can agree that more than 50% are bad signings?

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45 minutes ago, XB52 said:

Exactly. Anyone who just wants to support our club is rounded on by the CL out/mad Budge out brigade. Do think SP is trolling though


Not really. We are not a brigade, just supporters who think Levein isn’t the guy who should be in the dug out. Rounded on is a bit dramatic, is it not ?

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Just now, Spoleto said:

 

Half a dozen?

 

And people call me a troll!

Whelan

Halkett

Uche

Haring

Hickey

Dunne

 

I suppose Meshino also since we are including loan signings.  Morrison wasn't signed but I do like him.  I like Dikamona but Levein doesn't so can't include him.  The others have all been poor and easily replaceable.  Or long term injured so can't be classed as good signings.

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11 minutes ago, Spoleto said:

 

I disagree with some of your judgements, not all. Why do you jump from good to poor? Is there no average in your eyes?

 

Did you deliberately ignore the second list?

 

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For those who thought it useful - Hibs in the same period played 90 players :-  

 

 

14/15 15/16 16/17 17/18 18/19 19/20
Alex Harris (M) Anthony Stokes (F) Andrew Shinnie (M) Brandon Barker (M) Adam Bogdan (G) Adam Jackson (D)
Callum Booth (D) Chris Dagnall (F) Brian Graham (F) Cameron Bell (G) Charalampos Mavrias (M) Chris Maxwell (G)
Daniel Handling (M) Conrad Logan (G) Brian McLean (D) Danny Swanson (M) Daryl Horgan (M) Christian Doidge (F)
David Gray (D) Daniel Carmichael (F) Chris Humphrey (M) David Gray (D) Emerson Hyndman (M) Glenn Middleton (M)
Dominique Malonga (F) Darren McGregor (D) Efe Ambrose (D) Deivydas Matulevicius (F) Gael Bigirimana (M) Jason Naismith (D)
Dylan McGeouch (M) Dominique Malonga (F) Fraser Murray (M) Faycal Rherras (D) Jonathan Spector (D) Joe Newell (M)
Farid El Alagui (F) Dylan McGeouch (M) Grant Holt (F) Florian Kamberi (F) Marc McNulty (F) Joshua Vela (M)
Franck Dja Djedje (F) Henri Anier (F) Jordan Forster (D) Jamie Maclaren (F) Mark Milligan (M) Melker Hallberg (M)
Fraser Fyvie (M) Islam Feruz (F) Kris Commons (M) Oliver Shaw (F) Miquel Nelom (D) Tom James (D)
Jake Sinclair (F) James Keatings (F) Marvin Bartley (M) Ryan Porteous (D) Ryan Gauld (M)  
Jason Cummings (F) John McGinn (M) Ofir Marciano (G) Simon Murray (F) Sean Mackie (D)  
Jordan Forster (D) Kevin Thomson (M) Ross Laidlaw (G) Steven Whittaker (D) Stephane Omeonga (M)  
Keith Watson (D) Liam Henderson (M)   Vykintas Slivka (M) Stephen Mallan (M)  
Kleton Perntreou (G) Niklas Gunnarsson (D)     Thomas Agyepong (M)  
Lewis Allan (F)          
Lewis Stevenson (D)          
Liam Craig (M)          
Liam Fontaine (D)          
Mark Oxley (G)          
Martin Boyle (F)          
Matthew Kennedy (M)          
Michael Nelson (D)          
Paul Hanlon (D)          
Paul Heffernan (F)          
Sam Stanton (M)          
Scott Allan (M)          
Scott Martin (M)          
Scott Robertson (M)          
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41 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Makes you wonder why we've been so gash for a year and haven't won a home game for 8 months.

Inconvenient truth KLAXON.

 

Sadly, for the tiny handful of desperate Internet uber straw clutchers that post on this forum (though tbf I think most of them are probably h1b5 interlopers on the wind up), this will escape their "hertz ur the oanly klub tae huv hud loadsae injureez & Craig is barry!" style laughable nonsense.

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annushorribilis III
2 minutes ago, 7628mm said:

 

You may find that the Right hand Side list does no appear if you are using a mobile phone

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12 hours ago, innerjambo said:

 

Stiletto just called you organ, this is getting out of hand!!

 

:sadrobbo:

 

I’m just gonna call you ‘Winner’ then.  :biggrin: :wink: 

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1 hour ago, 1874robbo said:

Same here and it’s been wonderful on here ever since not having to look at his drivel 

I can imagine that to be very true.  :thumbsup:

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12 minutes ago, Boab said:


Not really. We are not a brigade, just supporters who think Levein isn’t the guy who should be in the dug out. Rounded on is a bit dramatic, is it not ?

Are there still some flat earthers out there who are defending Levein?  Absolutely incredible how they can ignore the science   

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What's the script with Peebles. We've had a few day trips down there over the years and found it a nice place. Even considered a static caravan at the site in town. Rosetta, I think it was called, or something similar. 

 

'mon the Peebles. 

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Just now, Enzo Chiefo said:

Are there still some flat earthers out there who are defending Levein?  Absolutely incredible how they can ignore the science   


The laws of gravity means they will fall, one by one !

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incoming PM.

Please can you delete your post as it is all a big secret cheers

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14 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said:

Inconvenient truth KLAXON.

 

Sadly, for the tiny handful of desperate Internet uber straw clutchers that post on this forum (though tbf I think most of them are probably h1b5 interlopers on the wind up), this will escape their "hertz ur the oanly klub tae huv hud loadsae injureez & Craig is barry!" style laughable nonsense.

Aye but...once we get all our star players back Nelly......just watch us go!! St. Mirren better watch their backs!

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18 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said:

Inconvenient truth KLAXON.

 

Sadly, for the tiny handful of desperate Internet uber straw clutchers that post on this forum (though tbf I think most of them are probably h1b5 interlopers on the wind up), this will escape their "hertz ur the oanly klub tae huv hud loadsae injureez & Craig is barry!" style laughable nonsense.

Pathetic response from yet another of the hate CL more than they love Hearts brigade. You agree the signings are poor  and blame Levein. You also agree they are good and blame Levein for not getting results out of them. 

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8 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Are there still some flat earthers out there who are defending Levein?  Absolutely incredible how they can ignore the science   

There are still Hearts fans on here who support the club, including whoever the manager is. Strange but true

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6 minutes ago, 7628mm said:

incoming PM.

Please can you delete your post as it is all a big secret cheers

 

:thumbsup:

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3 minutes ago, XB52 said:

There are still Hearts fans on here who support the club, including whoever the manager is. Strange but true

 

I think you'll find that most can do both: support the club whilst being unhappy about how it's being run. Probably been that way for about half the 44 years I've been attending Tynecastle. 

 

And before Spoleto, or anyone else, asks, no, I can't prove it with statistical analysis. 

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2 hours ago, GinRummy said:


😀 maybe not comaring apples with apples there Al.

I could see why you would take that view but the principle is the same ie the majority are not necessarily correct and the minority wrong.

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Pasquale for King
4 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

 

Both posts absolutely bang on the money and shows JamboAl up for what he really is, and pretty much what I was alluding to above as well, I have my suspicions that JambaAl is a club plant who beats the drum, his incessant nonsense is is all rather dull and predictable. 

 

 

And now I'm CONVINCED you're a club plant, we haven't won a home game in the league for 7 months, and you're all of a sudden trying to beat the drum for happy clappers everywhere because we managed to take a point at home, Jesus wept :rofl: 

 

 

That list absolutely blows away JamboAl and any of his "build up slowly" arguments, there's some absolute huddies on that list, a lot more huddies than quality for sure, makes me cringe just reading that and would be interesting to see the list of players for other clubs compared to that shite. 

Absolutely, he didn’t dispute that he’s related to Levein either 🤔😜.

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1 hour ago, Spoleto said:

 

Does it make you wonder Nookie?

 

Here, I'll spell it out for you again ..

 

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What was the last Hearts game you attended?

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3 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Absolutely, he didn’t dispute that he’s related to Levein either 🤔😜.

Is this for real ? Cos if it is, then trolling is entering a new dimension here. 

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44 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

For those who thought it useful - Hibs in the same period played 90 players :-  

 

 

14/15 15/16 16/17 17/18 18/19 19/20
Alex Harris (M) Anthony Stokes (F) Andrew Shinnie (M) Brandon Barker (M) Adam Bogdan (G) Adam Jackson (D)
Callum Booth (D) Chris Dagnall (F) Brian Graham (F) Cameron Bell (G) Charalampos Mavrias (M) Chris Maxwell (G)
Daniel Handling (M) Conrad Logan (G) Brian McLean (D) Danny Swanson (M) Daryl Horgan (M) Christian Doidge (F)
David Gray (D) Daniel Carmichael (F) Chris Humphrey (M) David Gray (D) Emerson Hyndman (M) Glenn Middleton (M)
Dominique Malonga (F) Darren McGregor (D) Efe Ambrose (D) Deivydas Matulevicius (F) Gael Bigirimana (M) Jason Naismith (D)
Dylan McGeouch (M) Dominique Malonga (F) Fraser Murray (M) Faycal Rherras (D) Jonathan Spector (D) Joe Newell (M)
Farid El Alagui (F) Dylan McGeouch (M) Grant Holt (F) Florian Kamberi (F) Marc McNulty (F) Joshua Vela (M)
Franck Dja Djedje (F) Henri Anier (F) Jordan Forster (D) Jamie Maclaren (F) Mark Milligan (M) Melker Hallberg (M)
Fraser Fyvie (M) Islam Feruz (F) Kris Commons (M) Oliver Shaw (F) Miquel Nelom (D) Tom James (D)
Jake Sinclair (F) James Keatings (F) Marvin Bartley (M) Ryan Porteous (D) Ryan Gauld (M)  
Jason Cummings (F) John McGinn (M) Ofir Marciano (G) Simon Murray (F) Sean Mackie (D)  
Jordan Forster (D) Kevin Thomson (M) Ross Laidlaw (G) Steven Whittaker (D) Stephane Omeonga (M)  
Keith Watson (D) Liam Henderson (M)   Vykintas Slivka (M) Stephen Mallan (M)  
Kleton Perntreou (G) Niklas Gunnarsson (D)     Thomas Agyepong (M)  
Lewis Allan (F)          
Lewis Stevenson (D)          
Liam Craig (M)          
Liam Fontaine (D)          
Mark Oxley (G)          
Martin Boyle (F)          
Matthew Kennedy (M)          
Michael Nelson (D)          
Paul Hanlon (D)          
Paul Heffernan (F)          
Sam Stanton (M)          
Scott Allan (M)          
Scott Martin (M)          
Scott Robertson (M)          

Rudy you are making these fan boys look rather silly, fantastic work mate 👍🏽.

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Just now, annushorribilis III said:

Is this for real ? Cos if it is, then trolling is entering a new dimension here. 

I asked if he was related to Levein, Trump or Johnson because he lies constantly and doesn’t accepts facts. He disputed he was related to the two that were born in America 😱🤷🏾‍♂️🤔?!?!

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kingantti1874
1 hour ago, Spoleto said:

 

 

     

The last two years signings.

 

Aaron Hickey

   
        Ben Garuccio

Craig Halkett

Conor Washington

 
        Bobby Burns -  Glenn Whelan  
        Callumn Morrison Loic Damour  
        Clevid Dikamona Joel Pereira  
        Colin Doyle Jamie Walker  
        Conor Shaughnessy Ryotaro Meshino  
        Craig Wighton Aidy White  
        David Vanecek    
        Jake Mulraney    
        Jimmy Dunne    
        Oliver Bozanic    
        Olly Lee    
        Peter Haring    
        Ryan Edwards    
        Sean Clare    
       

Steven MacLean

Uche

Zlamal

 

Not many bombscares there IMO.

 

Overall very positive I would say.

   
             
             
             
             
             


If the squad is so great, why are we dogshit? You can’t be blame injuries and then defend the strength of the squad. FWIW I’d agree that the teams we’ve put out on the paper SHOULD. be able to deal with dogshit like Hamilton, Ross country’s east fife, Dundee Utd, Motherwell and Kilmarnock without too much trouble 

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Just now, Pasquale for King said:

Rudy you are making these fan boys look rather silly, fantastic work mate 👍🏽.

 

As I have said earlier you may not see all of the columns if you are using a mobile phone. 

I always like to see some proper "for balance" posts on JKB

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Just now, 7628mm said:

 

As I have said earlier you may not see all of the columns if you are using a mobile phone. 

I always like to see some proper "for balance" posts on JKB

I can see them all 👍🏽

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5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:


If the squad is so great, why are we dogshit? You can’t be blame injuries and then defend the strength of the squad. FWIW I’d agree that the teams we’ve put out on the paper SHOULD. be able to deal with dogshit like Hamilton, Ross country’s east fife, Dundee Utd, Motherwell and Kilmarnock without too much trouble 

Indeed, and if he thinks there’s not many bomb scares there it shows a distinct lack of football knowledge or ambition. 

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annushorribilis III
4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

I asked if he was related to Levein, Trump or Johnson because he lies constantly and doesn’t accepts facts. He disputed he was related to the two that were born in America 😱🤷🏾‍♂️🤔?!?!

Fair enough, damned by his own words. 😂:laugh4:

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Pasquale for King
Just now, annushorribilis III said:

Fair enough, damned by his own words. 😂:laugh4:

He usually is 😆

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1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

I can see them all 👍🏽

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Lucky you.

I am using a PC  but did check on my phone and it only gave the 1st column from HIS post

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1 hour ago, Mort said:

What second list? I rated Olly Lee as decent. How many of those players could you say are good signings? Surely you can agree that more than 50% are bad signings?

 

The second list that contains Halkett, Washington etc.

 

I'll do the same and rate them as I see them.

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12 minutes ago, JamboAl said:

I could see why you would take that view but the principle is the same ie the majority are not necessarily correct and the minority wrong.

 

Not often a beleveiner concedes he's in the minority. 

 

Well done. 

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3 minutes ago, 7628mm said:

Lucky you.

I am using a PC  but did check on my phone and it only gave the 1st column from HIS post

Tried to copy it all but it wasn’t having it 😃, great work from Rudy though.

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1 hour ago, 7628mm said:

 

You may find that the Right hand Side list does no appear if you are using a mobile phone.

This public information assistance was brought to you via the Peebles Portal.

 

Cheers Peebles.

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annushorribilis III
3 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

Not often a beleveiner concedes he's in the minority. 

 

Well done. 

😃

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Pasquale for King
4 minutes ago, annushorribilis III said:

I've had him blocked for weeks. 

Months in my case but he still drags me back in with his nonsense, must not open them 🤬.

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1 hour ago, Randy Marsh said:

Whelan

Halkett

Uche

Haring

Hickey

Dunne

 

I suppose Meshino also since we are including loan signings.  Morrison wasn't signed but I do like him.  I like Dikamona but Levein doesn't so can't include him.  The others have all been poor and easily replaceable.  Or long term injured so can't be classed as good signings.

 

That's ridiculous. You have to judge the quality of the player, NOT his injury status.

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2 hours ago, JamboAl said:

So was Columbus when he claimed the world was round.

 

One facepalm isn't enough for you 

 

Image result for one facepalm isnt enough

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2 minutes ago, 7628mm said:

Lucky you.

I am using a PC  but did check on my phone and it only gave the 1st column from HIS post

 

Hearts used 117 Hibs 90.

 

What I would say having put them together is Hibs have had more continuity through out the same period and used a number of short term loans while in the championship to boost their numbers. Most of their signings have played games where many of ours had an odd sub appearance here and there. I would say we have made better quality signings but also signed a whole lot of rubbish who barely kicked a ball.

 

Obviously the stand outs for them were McGeough / McGinn / Allan and I guess you could argue Kamberi and maybe Boyle. The rest seem pretty average but fitted in to a fairly settle squad. We clearly have our challenges with finding a settled squad due to injuries, volume of players and tinkering with formations.

 

That's what I take from it. 

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35 minutes ago, XB52 said:

There are still Hearts fans on here who support the club, including whoever the manager is. Strange but true

Why would you support a manager? They come and go and are there to be judged...every decision,  substitution,  comment etc. You support the club, NOT the manager. 2 and a half years in charge with consecutive 6th place finishes and sitting 10th just now. He has been cut more than enough slack. Had he not been the DOF and a friend of Budge, his feet wouldn't have touched the ground as he was flung out the door. You seem to forget that managers come and go at every club in the country. It is an entirely normal concept to remove a failing manager. We are the club that is out of sync by tolerating failure.

 

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1 minute ago, Rudy T said:

 

Hearts used 117 Hibs 90.

 

What I would say having put them together is Hibs have had more continuity through out the same period and used a number of short term loans while in the championship to boost their numbers. Most of their signings have played games where many of ours had an odd sub appearance here and there. I would say we have made better quality signings but also signed a whole lot of rubbish who barely kicked a ball.

 

Obviously the stand outs for them were McGeough / McGinn / Allan and I guess you could argue Kamberi and maybe Boyle. The rest seem pretty average but fitted in to a fairly settle squad. We clearly have our challenges with finding a settled squad due to injuries, volume of players and tinkering with formations.

 

That's what I take from it. 

 

My post was in no way referring to the amount of players used but the fact that some "MAY' not have seen the Right Hand Side column contained in a post a while ago. 

Sorry for the confusion

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5 hours ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

 

 

Both posts absolutely bang on the money and shows JamboAl up for what he really is, and pretty much what I was alluding to above as well, I have my suspicions that JambaAl is a club plant who beats the drum, his incessant nonsense is is all rather dull and predictable. 

 

 

And now I'm CONVINCED you're a club plant, we haven't won a home game in the league for 7 months, and you're all of a sudden trying to beat the drum for happy clappers everywhere because we managed to take a point at home, Jesus wept :rofl: 

 

 

That list absolutely blows away JamboAl and any of his "build up slowly" arguments, there's some absolute huddies on that list, a lot more huddies than quality for sure, makes me cringe just reading that and would be interesting to see the list of players for other clubs compared to that shite. 

I didn't say build up slowly: I said build up incrementally which means that progressively you acquire better players each year within your available (playing) budget.  There have been some duffers with hindsight but I challenge you to name any team, including established clubs, who have not signed their fair share of duffers who are more prevalent when cash is limited.

I am not a club plant which is akin to me calling you a Hibs supporter with your continual negative and unsupportive views  and name calling like happy clapper.  Maybe we should call you a Neggy with your incessant negativity.

Next time we take a point from from Rantic should I just sit down and cry and then resort to keyboard moaning and groanin?.  Give it a rest and give praise where/when it is due.  Oh and do us a favour - concentrate on the facts rather than childishly criticising posters who do not agree with your opinion.

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Aaron Hickey – Good

Ben Garuccio - Average

     

Bobby Burns – Undecided

     

Callumn Morrison - Average

     

Clevid Dikamona – Good

     

Colin Doyle – Average

     

Conor Shaughnessy - Average

     

Craig Wighton – Undecided

     

David Vanecek - Poor

     

Jake Mulraney - Average

     

Jimmy Dunne - Good

     

Oliver Bozanic - Average

     

Olly Lee – Good

     

Peter Haring – Good

     

Ryan Edwards – Average

     

Sean Clare – Good

     

Steven MacLean – Poor

Uche  - Good

Zlamal - Average

Craig Halkett - Good

Conor Washington – Good 

Glen Whelan - Good

Loic Damour – Average, potentially good

Joel Pereira - Good

Jamie Walker - Good

Ryotaro Meshino – Good 

Aidy White – Good

Naismith - Good

       

 

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