Gorgieshed Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, number witheld said: Fair enough - however she is our First Minister no matter what your politics are and therefore people listen to what she says... And take it with a pinch of salt. Majority don't believe a word she says. However politics aside. No need for her comments on a subject she has nothing to do with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This thread will tell us which of our fans let Politics come into football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 It was a response to a question in Parliament, apparently. She said: “I saw some of Neil Lennon’s press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity. “Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer. “I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry. “Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don’t have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Barack said: Will sit back, and watch this thread turn into a disaster... yeh i'm new and naive round these parts. oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haveyouheard 22 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Neil Lennon and dignity, new one to me.I dont think the coin throwing incident was sectarian either just an absolute idiot who reacted to Lennon's goading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It should have been ten Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said: I wonder what Sturgeon's thoughts are on poor wee Lenny, 'the victim', threatening to stab his mistress in the throat with a knife. As long as “he conducted himself with great dignity” whilst doing so that’ll probably be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1rousset Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 She’s as clued up about this I see as she is about running out the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Perhaps she can comment on the racism behind our Goalkeeper being punched by supporters with a history of abusing Czech players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I hope John Swinney who I believe, someone can correct me here, is a Jambo can state our fans are overwhelmingly anti bigotry to his boss. Neil Lennon's actions should also have been scrutinised in an impartial way by the First Minister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: Perhaps she can comment on the racism behind our Goalkeeper being punched by supporters with a history of abusing Czech players. Yes this has been totally lost in the furore surrounding lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Barack said: Will sit back, and watch this thread turn into a disaster... Yup Classic or Closed quickly , whats the odds of both ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Also, the catalyst in this incident is not anti-irish, anti-catholic bigotry etc. The catalyst in this was Lennon turning round to the main stand and lording it up and then some idiot rising to it and throwing the coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, sadj said: Yup Classic or Closed quickly , whats the odds of both ? merged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 minute ago, number witheld said: merged! All bets null and void then ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Loaded question to take. However my analysis Nicola needs republican support. Numbers related response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: It was a response to a question in Parliament, apparently. She said: “I saw some of Neil Lennon’s press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity. “Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer. “I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry. “Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don’t have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear.” If she had added "....but last wednesday had **** all to do with the above....", I would have agreed with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 sturgeon will do and say anything to protect the votes of those with a seperatist agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Victorian said: It's all rather totalitarian. I would rather not have what I should believe imposed on me. **** off Sturgeon and all other like minded. Said as a Sturgeon and SNP supporter. Unfortunately the agenda of pushing this anti-Catholic sentiment as a Scotland wide, seeping into every decision and every aspect of Scottish society, all pervasive disease has rather hamstrung the SNP's choice of responses to a variety of issues. Exporting, or exploiting, of the west coast divide for political gain, basically. Any sensible person, irrespective of religious viewpoint, knows fine well the coin chucked at Lennon was an instantaneous response to him choosing to goad the fans in what was a highly-charged atmosphere even for a derby match. . Every week, other coin throwing incidents happen at matches, including a linesman recently having his head cut open and another manager being struck. Just like the punch on Bobby, none of these incidents have attracted anywhere near the ott coverage of the coin that hit Lennon. But, those who want to point the spotlioght as far away from their own doorstep (ie the old firm) or those who have long used the religious divide to, well, divide and conquer politically, will keep seizing the opportunities this particular incident has provided them. Kudos to Strachan who, despite being a Hibby and an ex Celtic manager and a friend of Lennon, remains impartial enough to see right through the charade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeDudley Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: It was a response to a question in Parliament, apparently. She said: “I saw some of Neil Lennon’s press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity. “Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer. “I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry. “Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don’t have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear.” Great dignity = goading the fans then hitting the deck as if he'd been shot after a coin bounced off his jacket? Pathetic. Playing to her usual section of society as ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: It was a response to a question in Parliament, apparently. She said: “I saw some of Neil Lennon’s press conference and thought he conducted himself with great dignity. “Nobody should have to suffer the abuse and the attacks that he has had to suffer. “I unequivocally condemn anti-Catholic bigotry, anti-Irish racism, I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry. “Whatever your footballing loyalties, or whether you don’t have any footballing loyalties, that kind of conduct has no place in modern Scotland and all of us must unite to make that absolutely crystal clear.” An adept political answer that seems to say one thing but actually doesn't. The last two sentences don't directly refer to the first two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 So that'll be the same Celtic-minded James Kelly MSP who campaigned for the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act asking a question about Lennongate then? Some ***** don't do irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 My Question is, with all the media interest in the "coining of Lennon" , why hasn't one single reporter or news agency looked at the footage and called the yellow toothed lunatic out for pretending he was hit in the face by a coin, when it clearly bounces off his grubby training coat before it hits the floor', followed by him looking down at it, then jumping ontop of it ? Is he really that skint that he had to make sure he gets the £1 before the homeless bloke who sits in the dugout with him ? Strange Times ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I condemn sectarianism in any shape or form and this government will continue to take the action we need to take to ensure that Scotland is a country that demonstrates zero tolerance of any of that kind of bigotry. Where’s the zero tolerance demonstrated and enforced at Parkhead and Ibrox then Nicola!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertarian Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 36 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: She's just lost a voter. Boot. She has lost a lot of voters over the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 40 minutes ago, Randy Marsh said: She's just lost a voter. Boot. And you'll stop being a Hearts supporter because of what Ann Budge & Craig Levein said...........goodbye & good riddance ya numpty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, davemclaren said: An adept political answer that seems to say one thing but actually doesn't. The last two sentences don't directly refer to the first two. "Adept"? You are giving her too much credit. It's pretty clear she has seen this as a sectarian incident or, been advised to this conclusion. She has seen Neil Lennon + Hearts = Sectarian Incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hearts Daft said: She has lost a lot of voters over the last couple of years. Aye right. we all know who was to blame for all this crap, Lennon, the coin thrower and the Hobo who struck Bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, gorgieheart said: My Question is, with all the media interest in the "coining of Lennon" , why hasn't one single reporter or news agency looked at the footage and called the yellow toothed lunatic out for pretending he was hit in the face by a coin, when it clearly bounces off his grubby training coat before it hits the floor', followed by him looking down at it, then jumping ontop of it ? Is he really that skint that he had to make sure he gets the £1 before the homeless bloke who sits in the dugout with him ? Strange Times ! Including the TV footage that, miraculously, appears to stop just before the coin landed, despite giving a perfect 'head-on' view of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This shite still dragging on, what a total embarrassment. ****ing Sturgeon getting involved now too over a nonsense! Oh poor Neil... he does nothing wrong in life to deserve this... aye right, piece of shit he is. Oh, and that's nothing to do with where he is from or what religion he follows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Who cares what Jimmy Krankie thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayinmay Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Thommo414 said: She has absolutely Feck all to do with this She is asked directly by an MSP in First Ministers questions ... whats she supposed to do? Ignore him? And given the amount of sectarian behaviour shown Id say she has a lot to do with it. All of what she says is correct excepting the acting with dignity comment. However she is referring to post match interviews in the following days so maybe he did? I didnt see them. Even if he didnt act with dignity in the interviews its a very political thing to say. Im not sure what folk are getting worked up over because the FM answers a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) The annoying things is if lennon was just abused verbally and did not have a coin chucked at him, we'd be talking about the behaviour of the hibs fans in relation to our goalkeeper, instead the narrative is that hearts fans are bigots. Edited November 8, 2018 by number witheld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, number witheld said: The annoying things is is lennon was just abused verbally and did not have a coin chucked at him, we'd be talkiing about the behaviour of the hibs fans in relation to our goalkeeper, instead the narrative is that hearts fans are bigots. If the coin hadn't been thrown, then nobody would be talking about anything. Like Zlamal did, we would just have to laugh at them, and then move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, adayinmay said: She is asked directly by an MSP in First Ministers questions ... whats she supposed to do? Ignore him? And given the amount of sectarian behaviour shown Id say she has a lot to do with it. All of what she says is correct excepting the acting with dignity comment. However she is referring to post match interviews in the following days so maybe he did? I didnt see them. Even if he didnt act with dignity in the interviews its a very political thing to say. Im not sure what folk are getting worked up over because the FM answers a question. All she had to say is that she can never condone anyone throwing a coin at a match, that she welcomes the unity shown by both clubs to sort this mess, and that she will be expecting action taken. There. Being a politician is a feckin doddle. By the way, she has **** all to say about sectarian behaviour in the West so i am at a loss to understand why she has suddenly taken an interest in us. Edited November 8, 2018 by Nookie Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayinmay Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, Nookie Bear said: All she had to say is that she can never condone anyone throwing a coin at a match, that she welcomes the unity shown by both clubs to sort this mess, and that she will be expecting action taken. There. Being a politician is a feckin doddle. You're right. And I'd be happy with that but she was asked by a pretty staunch Celtic fan MSP and so Im sure she knew the undercurrent of his question and what was to come next so the answer pretty much takes the wind out of sails. Now thats being a politician! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, mitch41 said: And you'll stop being a Hearts supporter because of what Ann Budge & Craig Levein said...........goodbye & good riddance ya numpty. Jesus! Your a bit special are you not? Can't take a wee joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, adayinmay said: You're right. And I'd be happy with that but she was asked by a pretty staunch Celtic fan MSP and so Im sure she knew the undercurrent of his question and what was to come next so the answer pretty much takes the wind out of sails. Now thats being a politician! How has it taken the wind out of his sails? That celtic MSP has more fuel for his own fires, and we are painted as sectarians by the First Minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 This is going to go on and on now Jimmy Crankie has now made this much worse, was she even at the game? Did our goalie even get assaulted during the game which has never been mentioned since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Jersey_HMFC Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Sturgeon is a hibby isn't she, or her husband is at least. She looked miserable as sin behind Rudi on 19.05.12 Salmond would have called out Lennon for his antics, the PHM that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crete Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 When is May going to have her say on this after all lots of other nobodies have had their tuppence worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbow Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: sturgeon will do and say anything to protect the votes of those with a seperatist agenda I think she pretty much has those in the bag already tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Old Castle Rock said: This is going to go on and on now Jimmy Crankie has now made this much worse, was she even at the game? Did our goalie even get assaulted during the game which has never been mentioned since Re Zlamal - yues i made this point earlier - if the coin hadnt been chucked the media narrative would have been about the punch. hope the coin chucker is happy with this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5698 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Where’s the zero tolerance demonstrated and enforced at Parkhead and Ibrox then Nicola!? Beat me too it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, It should have been ten said: As long as “he conducted himself with great dignity” whilst doing so that’ll probably be ok Lenny is of course famous for showing great dignity, restraint and rising above 'small minded' guys and gals ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Lets draw a line under Sturgeon quickly. It really is crystal clear. She is going to try and appeal to republican voters rather than those with an affinity to the crown or the UK. Right up her street actually. She couldn't give 2 hoots about Neil Lennon I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 A lot of the SNP's rise in popularity in 2015 depended on taking the "Sellick-minded" vote from Labour. She won't want to lose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjh1874 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, number witheld said: Re Zlamal - yues i made this point earlier - if the coin hadnt been chucked the media narrative would have been about the punch. hope the coin chucker is happy with this.... No it wouldn't have. Why are you constantly asking if the coin chucker is happy? do you seriously think that this type of person gives two hoots about the impact on anybody or anything at all! Lenny, Dumpster and now Wee Fishy are keeping this alive for reasons only they know. The joint statement now looks silly eh! Make no mistake had the coin not been thrown and not hit him on the chest we would not be seeing articles about Bobby at all. The media love Lenny and he has a perfect place to peddle his plight. Makes me sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just now, Gorgiewave said: A lot of the SNP's rise in popularity in 2015 depended on taking the "Sellick-minded" vote from Labour. She won't want to lose them. Yes of course it did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, Dannie Boy said: Where’s the zero tolerance demonstrated and enforced at Parkhead and Ibrox then Nicola!? My only comment on this bash the SNP thread. The government made a law to try and stop sectarianism at football but it was voted out by Labour and their unionist allies, led by a certain mr. Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sjh1874 said: No it wouldn't have. Why are you constantly asking if the coin chucker is happy? do you seriously think that this type of person gives two hoots about the impact on anybody or anything at all! Lenny, Dumpster and now Wee Fishy are keeping this alive for reasons only they know. The joint statement now looks silly eh! Make no mistake had the coin not been thrown and not hit him on the chest we would not be seeing articles about Bobby at all. The media love Lenny and he has a perfect place to peddle his plight. Makes me sick. sorry i think i made the point twice. i just think that persons reaction is a catalyst for a series of events which is dragging the clubs name through the mud - after all the good news we've had in recent years, we are now tainted as bigots. who knows the chucker might be on here for all we know! Edited November 8, 2018 by number witheld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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