Boab Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Has murrayfield ever hosted a football semi final ? The answer is no for a reason And that is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, davieholt said: Apart from when both Hearts and Celtic played home games there! Bottom line is hampden is our national football stadium and murrayfield is our national rugby stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Boab said: And that is ? Because it's a rugby stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Has murrayfield ever hosted a football semi final ? The answer is no for a reason It has hosted football matches several times, including Champions League fixtures, so it is clearly not 'exclusively a rugby stadium'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Because it's a rugby stadium .....OK....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Bottom line is hampden is our national football stadium and murrayfield is our national rugby stadium Bottom line is that Hampden is a shitehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalstonjambo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jambo-Fox said: Ann Budge Statement 15th April 2015 At 10.43am today, the club received notice from the SPFL that our last home game of the season v Rangers is to be moved to Sunday 3rd May at 12.30pm. This was the first notification of any change that we received. This has been done following selection of the game for a live TV broadcast. While we all knew that this was likely to be a strong candidate for televising and that the time might well change, we did not for one minute think that at this late stage, it would be moved to the Sunday….especially given our belief that all Championship games would require to be played at the same time. Previously in the season we delayed the sale of tickets for the first Rangers game as long as we could as we realised that this fixture was highly attractive to broadcasters and likely for selection. In relation to this game, we attempted to do the same but in this case, it would seem to no avail. On learning of the change, I immediately attempted to contact the SPFL and objected in strong terms to the proposed late change to this fixture on the grounds of it having a total disregard for the interests of supporters of both clubs and an apparent disregard for sporting integrity. I also spoke directly to Police Scotland who share our frustration and informed me that they had written with some strong reasons for objecting to the changed fixture, including duplication of work for them, re-allocation of resources, etc. but once again, to no avail. Being given 17 days’ notice of this change is extremely disruptive and potentially very expensive for the fans, the sponsors and indeed the club. Overseas supporters have been in touch to advise that they will lose substantial amounts on travel; others have advised of lost earnings, holiday problems, etc. ....... NB the outcome was that the game was restored to original date and time! Yes. But let’s not forget it was also because the other 8 clubs also complained about the different time due to sporting integrity because of the playoff outcome. They initially proposed moving the hibs game too, but this had other knock on effects. So it wasn’t just about fans. In fact it probably wasn’t at all. But it’s not relevant to this so let’s not derail the thread. Edited October 3, 2018 by Dalstonjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Ray Gin said: It has hosted football matches several times, including Champions League fixtures, so it is clearly not 'exclusively a rugby stadium'. Yes that's true but it's never hosted a cup semi final and only reason it's being touted now is because a shambles within football suites but the fact remains murrayfield is a rugby stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, frankblack said: Bottom line is that Hampden is a shitehole. Totally agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamhearts Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, davieholt said: Apart from when both Hearts and Celtic played home games there! Barcelona coped quite well at Murrayfield too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Yes that's true but it's never hosted a cup semi final and only reason it's being touted now is because a shambles within football suites but the fact remains murrayfield is a rugby stadium I am not following your point here. Yes, Murrayfield is principally used for Rugby but I don’t see why that makes it less suitable for football be it League, European or Cup matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 The obsession with calling Murrayfield a rugby stadium Hampden isn't a football stadium! It is an athletics ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 50 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Some half-wit hobo in my office has actually said this should be the case "to stop yoos yams frae cheetin" No I can't figure that one out either A hobo working in an office? Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden Not if their own kids cant go because of a stupid time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden Perhaps for the Scottish players, don’t see why anyone raised outside of Scotland would care less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentworth jambo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Yes that's true but it's never hosted a cup semi final and only reason it's being touted now is because a shambles within football suites but the fact remains murrayfield is a rugby stadium 8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: It has hosted football matches several times, including Champions League fixtures, so it is clearly not 'exclusively a rugby stadium'. By that logic, if Hampden and Ibrox were out of action you'd argue to play the semi at Parkhead as it's the only "football" stadium big enough....as someone said earlier, they're not football or rugby stadiums, they're rectangular patches of grass with spectating facilities around them. Everyone can see the logical solution is Murrayfield - solves all the problems and reduces travelling to a minumum - regardless of where they play the semis, a minimum of 2 set of fans will have to travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: Not if their own kids cant go because of a stupid time. Totally agree with you about stupid time, being single dad myself that time on a Sunday evening ruled me out on a school night! Hopefully now talks are going on for better solution we'll come up with something better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Yes that's true but it's never hosted a cup semi final and only reason it's being touted now is because a shambles within football suites but the fact remains murrayfield is a rugby stadium Nah mate, it hasn't hosted a Scottish football semi-final before now for purely political, economic, and logistical reasons. To suggest Murrayfield is exclusively a rugby stadium in light of it's recent track record of successfully hosting football matches is just a bit stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, wentworth jambo said: By that logic, if Hampden and Ibrox were out of action you'd argue to play the semi at Parkhead as it's the only "football" stadium big enough....as someone said earlier, they're not football or rugby stadiums, they're rectangular patches of grass with spectating facilities around them. Everyone can see the logical solution is Murrayfield - solves all the problems and reduces travelling to a minumum - regardless of where they play the semis, a minimum of 2 set of fans will have to travel. As I've said already if murrayfield the option for one of the semi finals then so be it but as I also said I'd have no problem with having draw to see which match played there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoEm001 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 A wee thought about the trains. Could we have Hearts supporters travelling to Glasgow at the same time as Rangers fans if the ties were Aberdeen v Rangers first at Murrayfield? This could cause major issues with traffic all travelling the one direction too. Would Aberdeen travelling home cause as much issues, I don’t know if they go from the same station or use the same trains as Celtic fans coming to Edinburgh? I think it would be a better idea to have a calculated strategy for the ties rather than pot luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: Nah mate, it hasn't hosted a Scottish football semi-final before now for purely political, economic, and logistical reasons. To suggest Murrayfield is exclusively a rugby stadium in light of it's recent track record of successfully hosting football matches is just a bit stupid. Exclusively probably wrong word to use but the fact is it only hosted football games when there was a need to help ourselves and Celtic out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Cardiff also hosts there international football matches , murrayfield is exclusively and always has been a rugby stadium Cardiff city stadium hosts most of the football internationals does it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Has murrayfield ever hosted a football semi final ? The answer is no for a reason Maybe because the GFA have had secret contracts in place to ensure that it couldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Taffin said: Cardiff city stadium hosts most of the football internationals does it not? Holds some yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentworth jambo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: As I've said already if murrayfield the option for one of the semi finals then so be it but as I also said I'd have no problem with having draw to see which match played there And then potentially have 2 sets of fans travelling instead of 2 ? The SPFL can't afford to go to a ballot given the Horlicks they've made of it so far - it has to be our game at Murrayfield and Aberdeen at Hampden - what they need to be quite careful is the timings of the games as they need travel times / kick offs / return times etc so they still don't have a fans hitting the same transport points at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Because it's a rugby stadium It's a multi use arena. Stop being so obtuse and listen to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Has murrayfield ever hosted a football semi final ? The answer is no for a reason The reason is because we've never had this carry on before (from what I can remember) and Hampden being our established national football stadium gets first shout. Its not because Murrayfield hasn't been open to hosting football. Hearts played a trial match back in the 50s( maybe earlier) at Murrayfield to see if they liked it and would ground share with rugby if they did. Edited October 3, 2018 by Debut 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, wentworth jambo said: And then potentially have 2 sets of fans travelling instead of 2 ? The SPFL can't afford to go to a ballot given the Horlicks they've made of it so far - it has to be our game at Murrayfield and Aberdeen at Hampden - what they need to be quite careful is the timings of the games as they need travel times / kick offs / return times etc so they still don't have a fans hitting the same transport points at the same time. You've got very valid and fair point ! All I'm saying is if the decision is we play at hampden and the sheep play sevo at murrayfield without any draw for venues we'll all be on here saying that's unfair why no draw to decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Bridge of Djoum said: It's a multi use arena. Stop being so obtuse and listen to others. How many times has murrayfield hosted a football semi final ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Debut 4 said: The reason is because we've never had this carry on before (from what I can remember) and Hampden being our established national football stadium gets first shout. Its not because Murrayfield hasn't been open to hosting football. Hearts played a trial match back in the 50s( maybe earlier) at Murrayfield to see if they liked it and would ground share with rugby. Spot on ! The reason it's even being spoke about this time is because they've made an absolute ****** up here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bridge of Djoum said: It's a multi use arena. Stop being so obtuse and listen to others. Exactly - its like saying neither venue could host a rock concert because they are a rugby/football stadium. Pedantic and tedious argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Kintner Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Folk backing Celtic on demanding a ballot The decision will be made based on what makes the most sense logistically hopefully and it seems clear that is to have our match at Murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Exclusively probably wrong word to use but the fact is it only hosted football games when there was a need to help ourselves and Celtic out So it's also a football stadium then. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridge of Djoum Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: How many times has murrayfield hosted a football semi final ? None as far as I know. You stated it was exclusively a rugby stadium, It quite clearly isn't, whether it has hosted a semi or not. It is more than adequate for this purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Spot on ! The reason it's even being spoke about this time is because they've made an absolute ****** up here Aye but I'm attempting to pull you up on yer staunch defence of Murrayfield and rugby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Whatever decision made a want to play them on original date but at a more reasonable time ! Certainly don't want to give up the small advantage we've got of them coming back from European game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: How many times has murrayfield hosted a football semi final ? Give it up mate, you haven't got a valid argument. To answer your question, the reason is that the SFA would always look at giving games to Ibrox or Parkhead when Hampden wasn't available. That isn't an option here, or have you missed the point of this 70 page thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 9 hours ago, John Findlay said: Rangers paid to have the West terrace covered. £20,000 back in the day. Celtic never for the East terrace. Really? Never knew that,John. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Governor Tarkin said: So it's also a football stadium then. Cool. No it's not a football stadium, it's hosted a few football games in it's time but murrayfield is the national rugby stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: You've got very valid and fair point ! All I'm saying is if the decision is we play at hampden and the sheep play sevo at murrayfield without any draw for venues we'll all be on here saying that's unfair why no draw to decide Dont think anyone would say it was unfair (provided kick off times are sensible). By changing the kick off times the SPFL removes the unfairness. This is now a question of logistics and 2 sets of supporters travelling a distance to a neutral venue is surely better than 3 sets of supporters (which could happen via a draw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, frankblack said: Give it up mate, you haven't got a valid argument. To answer your question, the reason is that the SFA would always look at giving games to Ibrox or Parkhead when Hampden wasn't available. That isn't an option here, or have you missed the point of this 70 page thread? And why is that ? In my opinion it's to keep the money within football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden Yes, but they'll get to Hampden for the final so it's all ok.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, JamboGraham said: Dont think anyone would say it was unfair (provided kick off times are sensible). By changing the kick off times the SPFL removes the unfairness. This is now a question of logistics and 2 sets of supporters travelling a distance to a neutral venue is surely better than 3 sets of supporters (which could happen via a draw). Well you watch how many say unfair if that's indeed what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden They can wait until the following round Edited October 3, 2018 by Ribble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 1953 said: Yes, but they'll get to Hampden for the final so it's all ok.? This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Anyway no matter where game played we'll beat them and the cup coming home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Murrayfield ideal for the hearts support but I'd wager the hearts players who've never played at the national stadium before would want the game at hampden They will get one in the final buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Well you watch how many say unfair if that's indeed what happens Stupid yes...unfair no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Barack said: Where you against the SRU taking cash off of us, when we were rebuilding the stand? No off course not , that's only time football has been held at murrayfield when our stand was being built and also Celtics ground was being rebuilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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