7628mm Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Can we not send the bill for restoring it to the building contractor? The Contractor "will" have liability insurance which HMFC can claim against. When I say, will, HMFC should not be giving contracts to any company that does not have appropriate insurance to cover this type of scenario. Let us hope that they carried out due diligence prior to awarding the contract . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, 7628mm said: The Contractor "will" have liability insurance which HMFC can claim against. When I say, will, HMFC should not be giving contracts to any company that does not have appropriate insurance to cover this type of scenario. Let us hope that they carried out due diligence prior to awarding the contract . 👍 Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 11/01/2020 at 00:01, davemclaren said: Today. Does anyone have a "before" picture of this. It's been a while since I last saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dayman said: Does anyone have a "before" picture of this. It's been a while since I last saw it. Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonmaroon Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dayman said: Does anyone have a "before" picture of this. It's been a while since I last saw it. Here's a crop from... https://www.snsgroup.co.uk/05-05-17-hearts-press-conference/05-05-17-tynecastle-stadium-edinburgh-general-13518801.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinger Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dayman said: Does anyone have a "before" picture of this. It's been a while since I last saw it. not my pic but best i could find from a quick search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) it will clean up Edited January 13, 2020 by Hearts007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 We need a separate thread for the mosaic issue mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dinger said: not my pic but best i could find from a quick search 14 minutes ago, troonmaroon said: Here's a crop from... https://www.snsgroup.co.uk/05-05-17-hearts-press-conference/05-05-17-tynecastle-stadium-edinburgh-general-13518801.html Thanks guys. Hopefully it will be returned to all it's glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 And so...how is the pitch looking??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 11/01/2020 at 22:15, FarmerTweedy said: The stands at Murrayfield get closer together during the winter? I know many things shrink in cold weather, but I've never heard of entire stadiums doing so! They huddle together like penguins for warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: And so...how is the pitch looking??? Worse than the mosaic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, DETTY29 said: From Friday. 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_steve Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Christ ... Looks like it's getting worse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hmfc_steve said: Christ ... Looks like it's getting worse ? Thats wot i thought Edited January 13, 2020 by Hearts007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I thought that mosaic was at the main entrance of the main stand? I haven't been in that bit since last summer but I'm sure I walked over it to go up stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 What the done to bloody thing. Did they do the same as SRU did and leave the under soil heating on to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Dallas Green said: I thought that mosaic was at the main entrance of the main stand? I haven't been in that bit since last summer but I'm sure I walked over it to go up stairs. That's a new one. The original one couldn't be moved in the end, so they kept it in place and protected it during construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Green Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, kila said: That's a new one. The original one couldn't be moved in the end, so they kept it in place and protected it during construction. Ah cheers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Pretty shite then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 well the grass aint gonna grow much in the next 5 days and with a game on it on saturday probably make it worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, kila said: That's a new one. The original one couldn't be moved in the end, so they kept it in place and protected it during construction. Will be impressive when fixed. The stadium tours are really intetesting if you haven’t been in the new hospitality suites or dressing rooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 Is the grass receding? Decided it's not worth it at Tynecastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyces beard Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 That pitch looks worse than it was before we replaced the bloody thing, there is no way anyone can justify £1,000,000 being spent on it. We have also been told it would be one of the most monitored pitches in the world (clearly a pile of horse shit). Well if you want to see how to make a total arse of looking after and maintaining a brand new hybrid pitch then look no further than Tynecastle. Its a disgrace and someone should be held responsible for the state its in. I Dont know if its the folk who laid the pitch or the folk who are looking after it but someone needs a swift boot right right in the baws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Looks like there are a few patches with no green at all, odd considering there is plastic strands every few centimetres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak47 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, jambo3tevie said: That pitch looks worse than it was before we replaced the bloody thing, there is no way anyone can justify £1,000,000 being spent on it. We have also been told it would be one of the most monitored pitches in the world (clearly a pile of horse shit). Well if you want to see how to make a total arse of looking after and maintaining a brand new hybrid pitch then look no further than Tynecastle. Its a disgrace and someone should be held responsible for the state its in. I Dont know if its the folk who laid the pitch or the folk who are looking after it but someone needs a swift boot right right in the baws. The top needed replaced at the end of last season but budge blocked it to hold the concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ak47 said: The top needed replaced at the end of last season but budge blocked it to hold the concert. Correct. Budge once more to blame. The sooner she goes the sooner we get back to being all about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonmaroon Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ak47 said: The top needed replaced at the end of last season but budge blocked it to hold the concert. Why did it need replacing less than a year after it was freshly grown and then 'stitched'?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, johnking123 said: What the done to bloody thing. Did they do the same as SRU did and leave the under soil heating on to long. That's what I thought at the Livi game in early December, wasnt a rainy day or had been much rain in the days leading up but the pitch looked and played like a boggy pit. We've had pitch issues for years now, I think we have a right to know what the problem is given we the fans are funding these expensive errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, troonmaroon said: Why did it need replacing less than a year after it was freshly grown and then 'stitched'?! Top is always skimmed so a new grass is brought through every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonmaroon Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Jambof3tornado said: Top is always skimmed so a new grass is brought through every season. Including the 5% that's plastic strands?! Do they bring their machine back and inject new ones?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: Top is always skimmed so a new grass is brought through every season. What does skimmed actually mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesandears Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, troonmaroon said: Why did it need replacing less than a year after it was freshly grown and then 'stitched'?! This is a usual process most pre seasons and at most top clubs. It's important to distinguish between a new pitch and basically a scraping off of the pitch surface. Scraping the top layer off back to sand allows fresh seeding and more seeding which in turn helps to improve the root system strengthening it so it is more robust through the seasom. The existing roots and new roots generate new grass at surface levels within days in a warm summer and is usually fully ready to play within 6/8 weeks. I think therefore we are now seeing the ill effects of prioritising the Edinburgh Festival ahead of our own football ambitions and requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The top should’ve been skimmed and replaced before the start of the season, it wasn’t, no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, davemclaren said: What does skimmed actually mean? 1 minute ago, troonmaroon said: Including the 5% that's plastic strands?! Do they bring their machine back and inject new ones?? No the strands remain of course. I'm led to believe its standard practice to remove the top surface and grow "new" grass to play on every season. Might be wrong...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) . Edited January 13, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, gordiegords said: The top should’ve been skimmed and replaced before the start of the season, it wasn’t, no idea why. Because we couldnt hold a concert on our football pitch if we went ahead with the actual work required!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: No the strands remain of course. I'm led to believe its standard practice to remove the top surface and grow "new" grass to play on every season. Might be wrong...... wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambof3tornado said: Because we couldnt hold a concert on our football pitch if we went ahead with the actual work required!! Well we are certainly paying the price now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, gordiegords said: Well we are certainly paying the price now. Correct. All because of Budge wanting us to be more than a football club. Not saying we are shite now because of her decision about the pitch but her decisions over lots of things are questionable to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, gordiegords said: The top should’ve been skimmed and replaced before the start of the season, it wasn’t, no idea why. Liverpool have a perfect hybrid pitch - did they do this at the start of their season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hate to think what it will be like by end of February. That's a disgrace now. Any rain in the days leading up to a game and it will be a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4th May - Last home game 12th July - League Cup begins against Dundee United 2nd August - Festival Concert So the reason for not skimming sounds like bullshit to me, especially given the state of half the pitch (where the stage was) afterwards and the fact the season had already started and we were playing football on it prior. Edited January 13, 2020 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Ak47 said: The top needed replaced at the end of last season but budge blocked it to hold the concert. If this is the case no wonder she didn’t want to tell us the real reason for the horrendous condition of the pitch at the AGM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Why are folk blaming Budge? She asked the experts who laid the pitch if it could cope with the concert and was told it would be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak47 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, kila said: 4th May - Last home game 12th July - League Cup begins against Dundee United 2nd August - Festival Concert So the reason for not skimming sounds like bullshit to me, especially given the state of half the pitch (where the stage was) afterwards and the fact the season had already started and we were playing football on it prior. Read a few pages back a member of our ground staff said so himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesandears Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Ah well there are a few hundred people scattered over the globe now that had a lovely evening in August in Edinburger, Scotchland. Bet most of them couldn't even name our club if you asked them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: Will be impressive when fixed. The stadium tours are really intetesting if you haven’t been in the new hospitality suites or dressing rooms. Yep. I've been before so there was little 'new' on the heritage side although apart from the 'new' stuff since my last visit when old stand still in place. - Memorial Garden idea of John Robertson - Plus the parts of the new stand I hadn't seen. (Previously restricted to getting to my seat in S, main entrance to go to Heritage Suite a few times and home dressing room for War of Two Halves and a ten minute guide during construction). To be fair the other 'nosey' was to see state of pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ak47 said: Read a few pages back a member of our ground staff said so himself. I am curious why the pitch, if skimmed, would have been ready for football come 12th July but a few weeks after that not be in a stable enough state to host a concert on half of it (and that half got ****ed anyway and re-spawned over the last of the summer sun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordiegords Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: Liverpool have a perfect hybrid pitch - did they do this at the start of their season? I will find out, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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