innerjambo Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I think we will get to around 12.8k by the time the season starts. A little disappointing, but not too shabby considering the 6th place finish and some uninspiring performances away from home. I will though, be pleasantly surprised if we manage to get over the 13k mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJGJ Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Get a good start in the League cup campaign with the new signings in place and that will bring a lot of optimism our way All those who still have doubts are waiting for is just a little bit of hope to convince them that there will be change and change for the better Win the league cup ties and the opening league match and they (rather than he) will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 20 hours ago, innerjambo said: I think we will get to around 12.8k by the time the season starts. A little disappointing, but not too shabby considering the 6th place finish and some uninspiring performances away from home. I will though, be pleasantly surprised if we manage to get over the 13k mark. I think we’ll do slightly better than that. Around 13,000 by the time of the league cup games. Would be a good effort considering the poor performance last season, new stand seats easily available for walk up etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Count at 6.30pm tonight. Wheatfield - 1021 Roseburn - 1206 Main - 787 Gorgie - 564 Total - 3578 Based on 15,934 available seats for regular season tickets, 12,356 sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, JALBO said: Count at 6.30pm tonight. Wheatfield - 1021 Roseburn - 1206 Main - 787 Gorgie - 564 Total - 3578 Based on 15,934 available seats for regular season tickets, 12,356 sold. 29 up on the last count, I think. Enzo's fantasy of a 15% drop becomes more of a long-forgotten dream as each day goes by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What is our record number of STs sold? 13.5k or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Me and my mate getting season tickets next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, heartandsoul said: Me and my mate getting season tickets next week. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartandsoul Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, JALBO said: Excellent! It has to be done Jalbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said: 29 up on the last count, I think. Enzo's fantasy of a 15% drop becomes more of a long-forgotten dream as each day goes by! The pace seems to have picked up recently which is encouraging. Interestingly, the club still haven't started selling Hospitality Season Passes as far as I can see - they were on sale in the first half of June last year. So hopefully there's quite a bit to come between regular, hospitality, and wheelchair. blind and PA sales. I'd be confident the final total will be beyond 13,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, heartandsoul said: It has to be done Jalbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, JALBO said: The pace seems to have picked up recently which is encouraging. Interestingly, the club still haven't started selling Hospitality Season Passes as far as I can see - they were on sale in the first half of June last year. So hopefully there's quite a bit to come between regular, hospitality, and wheelchair. blind and PA sales. I'd be confident the final total will be beyond 13,000. Still 2 paydays before the season starts too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: What is our record number of STs sold? 13.5k or something like that? 14,000+ ;last season. Just under 14,000 the season before. Think we've had a few other 13,000 plus seasons too, and we had the legendary 13,500 + waiting list of 6,000 back in 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos_1874 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, JALBO said: 14,000+ ;last season. Just under 14,000 the season before. Think we've had a few other 13,000 plus seasons too, and we had the legendary 13,500 + waiting list of 6,000 back in 2006. Thanks. So still a reasonable effort by the fans despite a few poor seasons. When you think about how many were on that waiting list back in 2006 it makes you realise just how much latent support there is out there. I wouldn't call us a sleeping giant but there is certainly potential there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jambos_1874 said: Thanks. So still a reasonable effort by the fans despite a few poor seasons. When you think about how many were on that waiting list back in 2006 it makes you realise just how much latent support there is out there. I wouldn't call us a sleeping giant but there is certainly potential there. It slightly annoys me how many people who say they follow Hearts in Edinburgh yet don't go to a single game all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gershwin said: It slightly annoys me how many people who say they follow Hearts in Edinburgh yet don't go to a single game all season. We have always had a huge fair weather support. I can think of at least a dozen people I know who claim to be Hearts supporters who have not been to a game for years. Some of them are the most vociferous in their opinions on the team, management and what ha e you when they join in a conversation about the club. Arseholes the lot of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjcc Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: 29 up on the last count, I think. Enzo's fantasy of a 15% drop becomes more of a long-forgotten dream as each day goes by! Nah everyone who wanted one had bought one 2 weeks ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deevers said: We have always had a huge fair weather support. I can think of at least a dozen people I know who claim to be Hearts supporters who have not been to a game for years. Some of them are the most vociferous in their opinions on the team, management and what ha e you when they join in a conversation about the club. Arseholes the lot of them! That's the problem, the fair weathers don't even come at all now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, JALBO said: 14,000+ ;last season. Just under 14,000 the season before. Think we've had a few other 13,000 plus seasons too, and we had the legendary 13,500 + waiting list of 6,000 back in 2006. I think it was around 13,700 full/cat B season tickets last season. The 14k mark wasn't passed until half-season tickets went on sale and were added into the total in November-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Gershwin said: That's the problem, the fair weathers don't even come at all now! And yet we've still been achieving higher attendances recently than we had in years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By the light Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Deevers said: We have always had a huge fair weather support. I can think of at least a dozen people I know who claim to be Hearts supporters who have not been to a game for years. Some of them are the most vociferous in their opinions on the team, management and what ha e you when they join in a conversation about the club. Arseholes the lot of them! These helmets should be made to contribute £10 a month to FOH or Have their tongues cut out. I know a fair rake of them too. Pony up or keep quiet please. Wanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 It was only 12 years ago that we had been averaging between 10k to 12k crowds per season for most years. People have short memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, FarmerTweedy said: 29 up on the last count, I think. Enzo's fantasy of a 15% drop becomes more of a long-forgotten dream as each day goes by! 10 (TEN) - 15 %. Hardly a fantasy Farmer. The sales are down to a trickle and you appear to be celebrating 29 being sold in 2 days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Worst thread in the Terrace just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The sales are down to a trickle and you appear to be celebrating 29 being sold in 2 days . Depends what you call a trickle I guess. Daily sales will vary (29 in 2 days, but 28 in the previous day - an average of around 20 per day currently) - but that current rate is enough to give us roughly another 1,000 STs before our first game against Celtic. And the likelihood is that the rate will increase through July as there are a lot of people who don't like paying for things until they have to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Hackney Hearts said: Depends what you call a trickle I guess. Daily sales will vary (29 in 2 days, but 28 in the previous day - an average of around 20 per day currently) - but that current rate is enough to give us roughly another 1,000 STs before our first game against Celtic. And the likelihood is that the rate will increase through July as there are a lot of people who don't like paying for things until they have to! Don't go bringing troublesome facts into it, you'll upset him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveandal Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 12,300+ is great considering its still June. Looking set to pass the 13,000 mark. Historically one of our greatest seasons ever season ticket wise. Edited June 26, 2018 by Daveandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Barack said: Still folk replying to the obvious...? It's like a Daily Mail comments section, this thread. Been a bit tetchy for a while. I suppose, with the ST numbers in mind, we could chip in with what we think the average attendance may be next season ? I'm going for 17K ! If it's around that, or even 16K, it kinda negates all these wee spats, does it not ? Money's money, folks ! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 hours ago, Gershwin said: That's the problem, the fair weathers don't even come at all now! Some do when it looks like we are going to get to a final. Others like to sit in their houses and watch the televised games then join in conversations speaking as though they are some sort of knowledgable authority on all things Hearts. Sitting in the pub the other night and the conversation turned to the way the club had prospered under AB and one particular clown decided he really thought things should have been done better. I might add he contributed sod all during our administration period, has not been to a game for years, and is not a FoH contributer. He could not understand why his right to have any opinion on the club was rubbished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Our average gate will reflect our results as per usual. Levein really does need to produce this season. The decision to ejaculate 13 million quid on a new stand may start to look a little foolish if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: Our average gate will reflect our results as per usual. Levein really does need to produce this season. The decision to ejaculate 13 million quid on a new stand may start to look a little foolish if not. It needed replacing either way and should be paid for soon. Not foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Religion Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Our average gate will reflect our results as per usual. Levein really does need to produce this season. The decision to ejaculate 13 million quid on a new stand may start to look a little foolish if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It needed replacing either way and should be paid for soon. Not foolish. This! Folk seem to forget that the old stand was costing us six figures every year in maintenance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: Our average gate will reflect our results as per usual. Levein really does need to produce this season. The decision to ejaculate 13 million quid on a new stand may start to look a little foolish if not. The stand needed replaced. It only just made the safety standards the season before. What would have been foolish would have been ignoring that and finding ourselves with a main stand that we were prohibited from using on safety grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strachsuit Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 This thread is a car crash. But to re-cap it seems we've sold almost 12,400 STs compared to a final total of 13,700 last year? 1300 sales needed to match last season's record-breaking total and there is still the best part of seven weeks until the first home game? Forgive me if I don't wet my nickers at the projected very small drop-off in sales. Considering the clamour for the new stand last season and some of the god-awful football we suffered, I'd say the figures so far are astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Its a nice idea, Boab. Avoiding the tedium...wonder if it'll catch on... I think 16-16.5k, is feasible as an average. Yip. 32 minutes ago, Deevers said: Some do when it looks like we are going to get to a final. Others like to sit in their houses and watch the televised games then join in conversations speaking as though they are some sort of knowledgable authority on all things Hearts. Sitting in the pub the other night and the conversation turned to the way the club had prospered under AB and one particular clown decided he really thought things should have been done better. I might add he contributed sod all during our administration period, has not been to a game for years, and is not a FoH contributer. He could not understand why his right to have any opinion on the club was rubbished. Well said. Everyone can have an opinion but some deserve to be ridiculed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Strachsuit said: This! Folk seem to forget that the old stand was costing us six figures every year in maintenance... I thought that was common knowledge ! Seemingly not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Hackney Hearts said: Depends what you call a trickle I guess. Daily sales will vary (29 in 2 days, but 28 in the previous day - an average of around 20 per day currently) - but that current rate is enough to give us roughly another 1,000 STs before our first game against Celtic. And the likelihood is that the rate will increase through July as there are a lot of people who don't like paying for things until they have to! True and they are also aware with the increased capacity they can more or less get a ticket as and when they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It needed replacing either way and should be paid for soon. Not foolish. £13 (+) million though Dave? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 47 minutes ago, Deevers said: The stand needed replaced. It only just made the safety standards the season before. What would have been foolish would have been ignoring that and finding ourselves with a main stand that we were prohibited from using on safety grounds. As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bad Religion said: Again............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: £13 (+) million though Dave? Really? The stand isn’t for this or the next few seasons though. It’s for the next 50 or so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I am pretty sue I did not comment on whether I agreed with it being replaced – of course it did. We will look foolish having an English Premiership quality stand designed for thousands more than our average gate, hospitality for ‘big nights’ etc when we are a losing team and will be empty most weeks. That is my issue and think we could look foolish if we do not get results and performances. It was a grand project – no doubt, one we are struggling with financially and worst case scenario will not be able to fulfill it’s potential due to a poor football team (the actual bottom line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, davemclaren said: The stand isn’t for this or the next few seasons though. It’s for the next 50 or so!! I get that, but it could become a huge luxury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: £13 (+) million though Dave? Really? What figure would you have spent on a new stand? (genuine question) Would you have included any hospitality/retail facilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, i8hibsh said: I am pretty sue I did not comment on whether I agreed with it being replaced – of course it did. We will look foolish having an English Premiership quality stand designed for thousands more than our average gate, hospitality for ‘big nights’ etc when we are a losing team and will be empty most weeks. That is my issue and think we could look foolish if we do not get results and performances. It was a grand project – no doubt, one we are struggling with financially and worst case scenario will not be able to fulfill it’s potential due to a poor football team (the actual bottom line). Are you suggesting we should've built a stand that didn't give us any opportunity to grow our home support and just cater for the hospitality we currently have demand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, Hackney Hearts said: What figure would you have spent on a new stand? (genuine question) Would you have included any hospitality/retail facilities? Not as grand scale - no point for a club our size. You could build a stadium for £13 million if sensible. This project has stretched our resources and went over budget since day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, fabienleclerq said: Are you suggesting we should've built a stand that didn't give us any opportunity to grow our home support and just cater for the hospitality we currently have demand for? I think the stand will be amazing if we concentrate more on the bottom line – putting a successful football team on the park. Having 400 RBS staff for a Christmas party and having a wedding reception is great business and all, but having an empty stand making no money on matchday will make us look foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apprentice Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, i8hibsh said: I am pretty sue I did not comment on whether I agreed with it being replaced – of course it did. We will look foolish having an English Premiership quality stand designed for thousands more than our average gate, hospitality for ‘big nights’ etc when we are a losing team and will be empty most weeks. That is my issue and think we could look foolish if we do not get results and performances. It was a grand project – no doubt, one we are struggling with financially and worst case scenario will not be able to fulfill it’s potential due to a poor football team (the actual bottom line). But we were not building a like for like replacement of the Wheatfield. The new stand incorporates a new supporters bar, a ticket office/club shop, nursery, plus corporate facilities which in time should help make us money 7 days a week, not just on matchdays. The scale is a massive statement of intent from the club and in the coming years should allow us to grow revenue which in turn will help with funds for performance on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Apprentice said: But we were not building a like for like replacement of the Wheatfield. The new stand incorporates a new supporters bar, a ticket office/club shop, nursery, plus corporate facilities which in time should help make us money 7 days a week, not just on matchdays. The scale is a massive statement of intent from the club and in the coming years should allow us to grow revenue which in turn will help with funds for performance on the pitch. Apart from it being poorly managed and going way over budget, at this point in time I am extremely happy. for one it looks outstanding. I will repeat though, if we are not winning games or selling out, it will make us look foolish. This thread alone is proving it. Poor season ticket sales and talking about average attendances of 16-17k, I mean wtf. We will never utilise our new stand and amazing stadium if we are not getting results on the field, surely no-one can disagree with that. That, I guess is my main point. Edited June 26, 2018 by i8hibsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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