Boab Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, obua said: Ok HMFCSSO I have asked 3 relevant questions I am still waiting for a reply,I’ve not given up yet but I’m already having doubts. Doubts that he might have went to his bed ? Calm doon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Harry Potter said: Why dont we build on the 2 singing sections that we have at the moment, G and N. Obviously at big games when roseburn is full of away fans G and N would be heard by them. Im in N and the place was rocking during the celtic game. That's what i thought. I expected this to happen when the new stand was built and that the N crowd would shift over to G, but not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 9 hours ago, obua said: Ok HMFCSSO I have asked 3 relevant questions I am still waiting for a reply,I’ve not given up yet but I’m already having doubts. How do you stop anyone latching onto a group? I doubt there would be a membership so 'joining' really just mean being in close proximity during games. If the young team turn up at an away game and sing naughty songs, does the whole thing collapse? How do you stop it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, JyTees said: It's clear there's already a few aneurysms about to pop at the mere mention of this. Best of luck HMFCSSO. I hope it takes off and you're allowed to enjoy yourselves without too many sadsacks trying to piss on your parade. Really wonder why so many Hearts fans invest so much time and effort in being annoyed with fellow Hearts fans. This again? Just about every, if not every single poster on this thread has wished the OP luck. He came on asking for input, questions and suggestions. That’s what he’s received along with universal support. Other than your misplaced ire, nobody has tried to pick a fight. People having doubts over its success = Zero negative impact on its success. People responding to his request for input = Zero negative impact on its success. To me it looks as though some folk are already clamouring to blame other people for any potential failure. Finally, all the very best of luck AGAIN to the OP and his mates. Hope it is a roaring success. It could substantially improve the atmosphere at Tynecastle if they get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: How do you stop anyone latching onto a group? I doubt there would be a membership so 'joining' really just mean being in close proximity during games. If the young team turn up at an away game and sing naughty songs, does the whole thing collapse? How do you stop it anyway? It’s a fair point. I would imagine the club would be satisfied as long as there was at least an attempt to discourage certain behaviour from the founders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
main Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Has to be section G or N for me. Don't think people who aren't massive singers e.g families and older people would want to sit in N and G next to a full roseburn of hibs or the old firm baying for blood whilst all the young guys in the hearts singing section are away down the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His name is Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I like the idea. I like the idea of the youngsters getting involved. I have doubts after the last attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 hours ago, obua said: Ok HMFCSSO I have asked 3 relevant questions I am still waiting for a reply,I’ve not given up yet but I’m already having doubts. A1.) There is no possible way to deal with this issue. Can you think of a way to deal with this ? ? A2.) Yes we plan on having a singing section at away games. A3.) We fall into a very varied age group, youngest being 13, oldest being 50 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Nookie Bear said: How do you stop anyone latching onto a group? I doubt there would be a membership so 'joining' really just mean being in close proximity during games. If the young team turn up at an away game and sing naughty songs, does the whole thing collapse? How do you stop it anyway? There is nothing we can do about this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckhind jambo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 some on here all for sections G and N for this, im not so sure, already a good atmosphere in these sections, IMO this has to happen in the gorgie end, imagine that whole end rocking! directly opposite the away end now that would be something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, HMFCSSO said: A1.) There is no possible way to deal with this issue. Can you think of a way to deal with this ? ? A2.) Yes we plan on having a singing section at away games. A3.) We fall into a very varied age group, youngest being 13, oldest being 50 ?? If you're going to the club with a proposal for a block of seats dedicated to the section, you can have a general statement of avoidance of songs with explicitly violent or sectarian overtones, and state that anyone in the section will be asked to sign it. It would be very difficult to enforce and certainly those sitting nearby could easily violate it. But it could be a statement of intent and those that would offend are more likely to balk at putting their signature on something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris 84 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just train the security cameras on them, any sectarian singing and the individuals concerned are banned and their tickets cancelled. The club would only only need to purchase (and show an example of how good the evidence) a good quality system to put an end to this shite once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 ???Only a couple of hours until the meeting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ???Only a couple of hours until the meeting??? Who you meeting with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Pizzorno Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Can’t see this happening, fair plays if it does but something not right to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIEIO Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Who you meeting with? According to Twitter Mr Tinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, EIEIO said: According to Twitter Mr Tinker. That’s good as hopefully Ann is busy writing cheques for new players tonight. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Who you meeting with? Jonathan Tink and Mark Waterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I couldn't hear the tiny tim brigade at the last game, think they made an error going behind the goals. Lower tier would be worse but I'm assuming that's to be on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: I couldn't hear the tiny tim brigade at the last game, think they made an error going behind the goals. Lower tier would be worse but I'm assuming that's to be on TV? Last time there was a young team there was only 2 rows of people and it was not a central position. This time we would have a lot more people and have it central Gorgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: Last time there was a young team there was only 2 rows of people and it was not a central position. This time we would have a lot more people and have it central Gorgie. Think you lose the noise being so low, it's your baby tho! Hopefully it spreads and you need the upper bits too. Think the hospitality may be an issue being centre of Gorgie as the doors are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whytebeard Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 good luck hope it happens. When you watch the german teams you can't but be impressed with it and the atmosphere it generates. Like all posters, also long as the songs don't drag the club in the gutter, there is no reason it can't be a success and something we can all ultimately be proud off. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 You cannot artificially manufacture atmosphere at a football match. It's been tried before. It didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KineticBeat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've always thought self-policing a membered singing section is that you would have the name and ST details of every member and if a few sang Sectarian songs (home or away) then you report their name to the club and they get banned for a certain amount of time. Boom. Easy.Obviously this doesn't solve the non-members coming to sit close-by, but self-policing is not a totally impossible thing to do as it seems to be being made out to be. Good luck with the meeting tonight, let all us nosey KBers know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Pizzorno Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, Cade said: You cannot artificially manufacture atmosphere at a football match. It's been tried before. It didn't work. This. And when it doesn’t work hopefully this’ll be the last attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Cade said: You cannot artificially manufacture atmosphere at a football match. It's been tried before. It didn't work. Aye but a drum though eh? And a megaphone. Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, HMFCSSO said: Last time there was a young team there was only 2 rows of people and it was not a central position. This time we would have a lot more people and have it central Gorgie. Gorgie Stand is just not a good idea it is the stand with the fans who will least likely accept or appreciate a singing section. It is filled with parents with their young children and of course grumpy old men They will not put up with a drum banging next to them every week no matter how much you think they will. I can assure you they moaned like **** when there was a drum in the Roseburn stand. Use some common sense take some solid advice and take the singing section to a stand that will appreciate a singing section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Pizzorno Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said: Gorgie Stand is just not a good idea it is the stand with the fans who will least likely accept or appreciate a singing section. It is filled with parents with their young children and of course grumpy old men They will not put up with a drum banging next to them every week no matter how much you think they will. I can assure you they moaned like **** when there was a drum in the Roseburn stand. Use some common sense take some solid advice and take the singing section to a stand that will appreciate a singing section. This 100%. A singing section yes but an ultras group with a drum is nothing more than cringeworthy especially up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonexile Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Cade said: You cannot artificially manufacture atmosphere at a football match. It's been tried before. It didn't work. You ever seen a European football match that isn’t in Britain? In literally any other country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonexile Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, West Side Hearts said: This 100%. A singing section yes but an ultras group with a drum is nothing more than cringeworthy especially up here. These groups consistently outsing us, with the exception of the last two big home games, and have done for years. I personally find that more cringeworthy, and would find it odd if any Hearts fan didn’t. Edited January 31, 2018 by maroonexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Good that the club want it in the the Gorgie stand How many seats are they going to give you? Edited January 31, 2018 by kila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain America Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, kila said: Good that the club want it in the the Gorgie stand How many seats are they going to give you? One whole lower section of the Gorgie nearest the wheatfield but if it sells out the club would be happy to give us room to grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Thats where my 5 STs are. No offence but I have sat there for years FFS ? Still bigger picture and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Vision,you only want to sing at the football,hardly ground breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Save the GORGIE LOWER campaign getting started. Who is with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, obua said: Vision,you only want to sing at the football,hardly ground breaking. Do visions have to be groundbreaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Are season ticket holders going to lose their seats to accommodate the singing section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, kila said: Good that the club want it in the the Gorgie I presume you don't sit there? Just out of interest why do you think the Gorgie is a good idea? I think it is the worst option in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Save the GORGIE LOWER campaign getting started. Who is with me I'm in! Unless we get shifted to posh seats again....... Edited January 31, 2018 by Gambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, queensferryjambo said: I presume you don't sit there? Just out of interest why do you think the Gorgie is a good idea? I think it is the worst option in the ground. Would have thought Lower G myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Thats where my 5 STs are. No offence but I have sat there for years FFS ? Still bigger picture and all that Just get involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, queensferryjambo said: I presume you don't sit there? Just out of interest why do you think the Gorgie is a good idea? I think it is the worst option in the ground. I think behind the goals is the best place. But yeah there is the problem of the folk who currently sit there which needs to be dealt with delicately if they go forward with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, JamboSean said: Just get involved? They days are behind me bud. Used to start a few songs in the shed back in the day I'm all for progress so hope this goes well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gambo said: I'm in! Unless we get shifted to posh seats again....... Already counted you in. Happy to move elsewhere in the Gorgie but don't expect to pay more as a result TBH and will I get 5 seats together???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboSean Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, PTBCAL said: They days are behind me bud. Used to start a few songs in the shed back in the day I'm all for progress so hope this goes well ? I wasn't being serious, apologies. I'm actually glad it's not near me tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, HMFCSSO said: ?? IT IS WITH GREAT DELIGHT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL?? ??THE CLUB ARE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR SECTION AND LIKE OUR VISION ?? ?? NOT 100% CONFIRMED BUT WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN LOWER GORGIE STAND IN THE SECTION NEAREST THE WHEATFIELD ?? Please ask us any questions you have regarding the meeting ???? Excellent news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFCSSO Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, obua said: Vision,you only want to sing at the football,hardly ground breaking. I didn't hear anyone say "groundbreaking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Save the GORGIE LOWER campaign getting started. Who is with me If I was you I'd get a drum a few banners and start some protest songs on Saturday............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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