Drewboy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Does any knowledgeable person know if its possible to have a no sale/move to a Scottish club without the permission of HMFC written into the contract ? I mean knowledgeable not just a pretend I know all about it comment.Anything can be written into the contract, within the law and obviously both parties would have to agree it. A clause like "no sale/move to another Scottish club" would probably fall outside the EU free movement of people legislation. It would depend how this clause was written but doubt it could exclude transfer/sale to another Scottish club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphiwe Tshabalala Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I assume Celtic are SA parent club? And not Rotherham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Yup, saw one a few weeks ago where he took a rumour on here word for word a few days after it had gone up (might even have been yours) and claimed he is the first with all the info. He is just an attention seeker who should be ignored. I was me giving an update on Gauld and Whittaker. Appeared word for words day later. The boy is an absolute plastic fud. You guys do know who it is I'm assuming, yes? One of the worst Twitter accounts I've ever come across. Such an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weegie jambo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 bazman, on 11 Jun 2017 - 2:26 PM, said:Just signed a new deal in may. Loving life over the apparently He is indeed..from the horses mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 One of the worst Twitter accounts I've ever come across. And you've came across a few, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNic Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 And you've came across a few, amirite? ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Be gutted if we signed Allan, be even more gutted if we paid a fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Be gutted if we signed Allan, be even more gutted if we paid a fee. I wanted veratti personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I wanted veratti personally I'd rather we signed Sibbald, Crawford or went down the foreign route again. Sibbald has promise, Crawford has experience and if we go foreign we at least know they are a mercenary liable to **** us over at the first opportunity. Allan is a bang average midfielder who has made piss poor career choices. **** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Allan would be a good signing but his heart isn't with any club. If he played well for us he'd jump at the chance to move to a bigger club again. If he signs for us, he's won the lottery again and we'll be the biggest club, outwith Celtic, that he'll ever play for. If he realises that and knuckles down and concentrates on his football rather than looking for his next move, he'll be alright for us. If he thinks he's above us and still fancies the Premiership, he'll be a nonentity, like he is now. We are his last chance to have a career of any import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I'd rather we signed Sibbald, Crawford or went down the foreign route again. Sibbald has promise, Crawford has experience and if we go foreign we at least know they are a mercenary liable to **** us over at the first opportunity. Allan is a bang average midfielder who has made piss poor career choices. **** him. I thought we looked at the overall package with the players we sign not only their footballing ability but how they conduct their lives away from the game etc etc. Attitude to training and committment should all figure in that although from some of those we have signed before it's hard to believe we do adopt this strategy. I'm not sure Allan would pass the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Can you see Cathro getting the best out of Scott Allan? He can't get Arnaud Djoum to play for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_HMFC Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Heard again today that Scott Allan is signing for us. Source is a friend of Jim Jefferies. A midfielder that has genuine ability. I would be happy with this signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I thought we looked at the overall package with the players we sign not only their footballing ability but how they conduct their lives away from the game etc etc. Attitude to training and committment should all figure in that although from some of those we have signed before it's hard to believe we do adopt this strategy. I'm not sure Allan would pass the test. In what way would he fail the test other than a bit of a daft career move (which probably saw him okay for money for a good long while) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paulo Sergio Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Better going for Tony Andreu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Can you see Cathro getting the best out of Scott Allan? He can't get Arnaud Djoum to play for him. Was just thinking the same but we need to trust in Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Scott Allans next move will make or break his career. If he comes to us I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Can you see Cathro getting the best out of Scott Allan? He can't get Arnaud Djoum to play for him. You could say that about every player on the books. Thats about to be proven or unproven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 You guys do know who it is I'm assuming, yes? One of the worst Twitter accounts I've ever come across. Such an embarrassment. is it the guy who's name is an anagram of "ass lic tramp" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Anything can be written into the contract, within the law and obviously both parties would have to agree it. A clause like "no sale/move to another Scottish club" would probably fall outside the EU free movement of people legislation. It would depend how this clause was written but doubt it could exclude transfer/sale to another Scottish club. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk There is no point inserting it into a contract as we'd need to consent to a sale to any club if he was still under contract. Once he would be out of contract then he's entitled to full freedom of movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 In what way would he fail the test other than a bit of a daft career move (which probably saw him okay for money for a good long while) ? He had a reputation for the night life and was not the most dedicated to training. Maybe that's been one of the reason's why he has found it difficult to get a regular starting place at the various clubs he has been at. If we sign the guy I hope he does well. He has undoubted ability but so did a lot of the players Cathro signed in January but they didn't perform for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 is it the guy who's name is an anagram of "ass lic tramp" ? No but try Kis mi ova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haken Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 No but try Kis mi ova is it the guy who's name is an anagram of "ass lic tramp" ?Good work, fellas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 No but try Kis mi ova Awww naw man I've pure been rumbled Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Awww naw man I've pure been rumbled Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk 100% true though. Complete weirdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 He had a reputation for the night life and was not the most dedicated to training. Maybe that's been one of the reason's why he has found it difficult to get a regular starting place at the various clubs he has been at. If we sign the guy I hope he does well. He has undoubted ability but so did a lot of the players Cathro signed in January but they didn't perform for him. Might be something in that. The only time he has really stood out is that one season with Hibs when he really got his head down looking for a move up. If he comes to us there isn't IMO any more upward moves for him. Its a question of whether he realises we are his last big club and gives enough of a shit about extending his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 100% true though. Complete weirdo.Big fella I could not care less honestly who you think I am. Right now that's sorted can we get back on topic ? Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Might be something in that. The only time he has really stood out is that one season with Hibs when he really got his head down looking for a move up. If he comes to us there isn't IMO any more upward moves for him. Its a question of whether he realises we are his last big club and gives enough of a shit about extending his career.This is the way I see it and at 150k worth the gamble Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 100% true though. Complete weirdo. Bit harsh no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 This is the way I see it and at 150k worth the gamble Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk I wouldn't take him if there's a fee. If Celtic release him fair enough but I wouldn't gamble ?150k on him. At this moment he is finished and we'd have to build him back into a decent player. I'd rather spend ?150k on a championship player like Sibbald who's been playing regularly and consistently for a good while, is pretty young and overdue a move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Henry Furst Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I like kimosavi. Up for a laugh and doesn't take things too seriously. Some on here should take heed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I like kimosavi. Up for a laugh and doesn't take things too seriously. Some on here should take heed. That's mad I Like me too To be fair I am weird Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I don't think Kimo is the patter vacume that is the Real Romanov but if you are stop passing stuff off as your own and saying you will get the info two days before the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 That's mad I Like me too To be fair I am weird Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Happy weird is not so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I don't think Kimo is the patter vacume that is the Real Romanov but if you are stop passing stuff off as your own and saying you will get the info two days before the papers.Ok mate I will stop I mean na it's no me I wouldn't do that In all seriousness I'm on Twitter and aye the boy obviously gets his stuff from here it's obvious I see it I'm no daft. I'm never gonna convince anyone 100% on here who cares if it makes highway sleep better then so be it. Just keep supplying me with names and we can continue as we were [emoji1] [emoji111] Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynefozzie Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Anyway the reason this thread has gone to shit is that Hearts have stopped all the leaks. I haven't heard a peep in days. And my source is very close to the club. In my opinion that's a good thing. Very much this. I know a couple of guys who aren't especially close to the club but who normally catch the tail end of a rumour or two, and they both fair like to spraff, but it seems Hearts are running a tighter ship now. The Polish guy chat is great - apparently he could be a Polish striker or maybe a midfielder or he could play at the back. Or he's not Polish but he plays in Poland. Or maybe he once played in Poland but doesn't any more. Or maybe he just has a Polish sounding name. Or maybe his name isn't that Polish sounding. Or he could be a keeper. Or maybe he's actually Scott Allan. I don't have a scoobie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts1874 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Ok mate I will stop I mean na it's no me I wouldn't do that In all seriousness I'm on Twitter and aye the boy obviously gets his stuff from here it's obvious I see it I'm no daft. I'm never gonna convince anyone 100% on here who cares if it makes highway sleep better then so be it. Just keep supplying me with names and we can continue as we were [emoji1] [emoji111] Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk No names from me at the minute. The club have shut up shop completely. That doesn't mean players and agents can't leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbauld Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I'm beginning to take a shine to all this Polish talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Might be something in that. The only time he has really stood out is that one season with Hibs when he really got his head down looking for a move up. If he comes to us there isn't IMO any more upward moves for him. Its a question of whether he realises we are his last big club and gives enough of a shit about extending his career. IIRC Scott Allan is a Type 1 Diabetic. To play football at professional level for someone with his condition requires a great deal of self discipline. If he does like to party it would be even more difficult for him to maintain fitness. I used to admire him for his dedication when he was at Hibs perhaps a move back to Edinburgh combined with working for a management team he is familiar with would bring the best out of him again. I agree with others though he would be a gamble and I would not be paying anything other than a nominal fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynefozzie Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I'm beginning to take a shine to all this Polish talk. Lol, I've heard they want the boy to link up with Martin for a French Polish connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanHearts Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Scott Allan has ability but an apparantly questionable attitude. It's a tricky one. With the right management and guidance and team blend he could be a real good signing. But have we got these things ? Because if not it could be another Tony Watt debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I'm beginning to take a shine to all this Polish talk.Aye but would they Pledge to a scottish club? Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glottis Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Scott Allan - the non goal scoring or assisting attacking midfielder. He'd need to do a lot to be useful for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Aye but would they Pledge to a scottish club? Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Only if he was half French and half Polish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynefozzie Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Aye but would they Pledge to a scottish club? Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Don't start with the puns mate. You'll take the sheen off this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Don't start with the puns mate. You'll take the sheen off this threadI will wipe the table with you pal Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Aye but would they Pledge to a scottish club? Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Can you see Cathro getting the best out of Scott Allan? He can't get Arnaud Djoum to play for him.This is when people talk about management. Dealing with different temperaments and attitudes. Some players need a tight grip on them and a lot of emphasis put on keeping them focused, some don't of course and can be great to manage. I don't know how Ian Cathro manages, I've never seen him in action or heard him talk to players. But training can't just be about players turning up and doing a session then leaving. It's a time for managers to tap into the players psyche, building team harmony and building a bond... It's not just about passing exercises and set piece training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 We as a club should be keeping a eye on players at clubs like Falkirk,QOTS,Dunfermline. Falkirk have had some good young players that have been chert picked by lower league English sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamle1874 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Scott Allan - the non goal scoring or assisting attacking midfielder. He'd need to do a lot to be useful for us. Last seaason aside, 30 league games for Hibs 15 assists and when at Celtic played 13 (mostly sub) 4 assists. Granted with the goals but to say he doesn't set them up is a bit far fetched would be a good signing IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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