Mikey1874 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Boris wasn't fined for the latest round as the party in question was the one at his house and he's covered by being in his home. However the next rounds to come weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taffin said: No offence, but you come across as hysterical. I'm on your side when it comes to the Tories and austerity. It's your shrieking hyperbole I've issue with. Needs help imo. Edited May 12, 2022 by Dirk McClaymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Taffin said: The vast majority of the poor haven't been impacted by Tory austerity in any way shape or form. In fact, they've probably never even heard of the Tories. 2 hours ago, Taffin said: Why would I do that, austerity has made the poor poorer. Never stated otherwise. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/12/sociopathy-and-stupidity-worn-like-badges-of-honour-in-cabinet-of-all-the-talents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Ray Gin said: 😕 The vast majority of poor don't live in the UK, Ray. Tory austerity has had no impact on them...sadly though, the Tory form isn't the only austerity in existence, as much as that may surprise people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: They really do have nothing but contempt for the electorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, Taffin said: The vast majority of poor don't live in the UK, Ray. Tory austerity has had no impact on them...sadly though, the Tory form isn't the only austerity in existence, as much as that may surprise people. It's clearly the UK being talked about. Why tf would anyone be blaming the tories for austerity elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: They really do have nothing but contempt for the electorate. English electorate are docile enough to vote for them in their droves unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: English electorate are docile enough to vote for them in their droves unfortunately. Worth bearing in mind that there is a complete paucity of options down here - at least voters in Scotland have an option on the 'hail Mary' pass of independence. The Liberals and Labour are struggling to article any ideas at all (aside from a windfall tax). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Apparently the latest wheeze is to make civil service efficiency savings of an uninspiring £3-4bn by removing 91,000 civil service positions, albeit via natural wastage, which will take about 3 years. Many of these positions were to deal with Brexit consequences which, seemingly, is no longer a thing. Willingly reducing the number of reasonably paid public sector jobs by 91,000 and unavoidably impacting the standard of services going on. Yeah.. that would be austerity then. This at the same time as lying about creating more and more well jobs, levelling up, growing the economy, etc. A government that has no ability to remain unidirectional for any more than a few days at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, WorldChampions1902 said: They really do have nothing but contempt for the electorate. You do know the description was nothing to do with Boris or the mp who donated it ? ffs I know you lot are desperate but Deary me. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dazo said: You do know the description was nothing to do with Boris or the mp who donated it ? ffs I know you lot are desperate but Deary me. 😂 You do know he didn't say anything about Boris or the MP who donated it? Desperate Dazo, Tory at heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Ray Gin said: It's clearly the UK being talked about. Why tf would anyone be blaming the tories for austerity elsewhere? Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Taffin said: Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. It goes hand in hand with nationalism. The tribulations of our fellow beings ceases to be much of a concern at some politically motivated demarcation on a map drawn by people who are all dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Taffin said: Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, Taffin said: Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. It's a thread about the tories ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: It's a thread about the tories ffs It is, but presumably the conversation is on the wider impact of the sort of policies they have. Surely nobody hates a party solely due to its name?!? Most people's gripe with them seems to be their seeming satisfaction with plunging people into poverty...without accepting that the niceties and comforts those people are being deprived of by the Tories inherently tend to plunge others into poverty elsewhere in order to deliver them in the cheap and accessible fashion being demanded. Even domestically, I completely stand by my statement that Austerity is far from the biggest kick in the stones policy the poor have ever had. I still maintain that was Western industrialisation. Edited May 13, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 But a spokesperson for Mr Dowden has issued a statement saying he had no knowledge of how the item would be described: "This item was donated in good faith several months ago for a local charity auction. Oliver Dowden had no prior knowledge of the description and this is obviously not his view” Those close to the Tory chairman believe it was written by someone involved in the fundraising event, and not anyone associated with the Conservative Party. Aw sorry to pour champagne on the obsessed’s chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Smithee said: You do know he didn't say anything about Boris or the MP who donated it? Desperate Dazo, Tory at heart So who was he talking about that has contempt for the electorate then ? He shoots, he misses, Same old smithee 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Dazo said: So who was he talking about that has contempt for the electorate then ? He shoots, he misses, Same old smithee 😂 Tories Dazzleworth, tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Taffin said: Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. It's a thread about the Tories, why would anyone think you were talking about other countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Smithee said: It's a thread about the Tories, why would anyone think you were talking about other countries? I guess if they'd read my previous posts on the topic. Maybe we need a global poverty thread for that discussion though 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe takes the opportunity to say that Johnson's careless Oxford Debating Society words had had a "big impact" on her and that she "lived in the shadow" of them for four and a half years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61441631 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Taffin said: I guess if they'd read my previous posts on the topic. Maybe we need a global poverty thread for that discussion though 👍 You were responding to someone who was moaning about Tory austerity affecting the poor, and for some reason seem to have adopted the approach of "aye but they're not affecting poor people in other countries". Baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 12/05/2022 at 14:18, maroonlegions said: And yet you vote Tory?? Your level of arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking. You forgetting the WORST infliction ever forced down the throats of the poor, Tory AUSTERITY. You are never in the REAL world. On 12/05/2022 at 14:24, Taffin said: The worst affliction forced down the throats of the poor was Western industrialisation imo. Both domestically, and globally. The vast majority of the poor haven't been impacted by Tory austerity in any way shape or form. In fact, they've probably never even heard of the Tories. 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: You were responding to someone who was moaning about Tory austerity affecting the poor, and for some reason seem to have adopted the approach of "aye but they're not affecting poor people in other countries". Baffling. What's baffling about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Taffin said: What's baffling about that? Maroonlegions is clearly talking about tory austerity in the UK but for some reason you've taken it global. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Maroonlegions is clearly talking about tory austerity in the UK but for some reason you've taken it global. It's not true in a domestic sense either though, as I said in the post I've just quoted. Also, Maroonlegions introduced global first. Again, in the post I quote. Edited May 13, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Taffin said: It's not true in a domestic sense either though, as I said in the post I've just quoted. Also, Maroonlegions introduced global first. Again, in the post I quote. Are you referring to his "not living in the real world" line? That's a bit of a reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Are you referring to his "not living in the real world" line? That's a bit of a reach. Yes. If you're going to accuse people of not living in the real world, then I'd argue almost nobody in the UK is living in the real world, from a poverty perspective. Out of interest, do you have anything of substance to add Ray? Maybe a refute as to why industrialisation isn't the biggest whack to the poor, or why austerity is, or even something else? It's always nice to get your ad hominem stuff, but your actual opinion on the topics at hand would a nice change. Edit: that wasn't as intended to sound as wanky as it does. I'm just not entirely sure what your issue is with what I posted and would like to know why you think it's not true/what your alternative take on it is. Edited May 13, 2022 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Taffin said: Yeh I've since realised the virtue signalers on here only care about domestic hardship. was the same with covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Wut the.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Taffin said: Out of interest, do you have anything of substance to add Ray? I'm heading to the pub, so no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: I'm heading to the pub, so no. Enjoy 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: was the same with covid Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 23 hours ago, Taffin said: Incorrect. Correct. Why? I didn't say they don't. I said it's not the worst thing to happen to the poor. Which it isn't. Why would I do that, austerity has made the poor poorer. Never stated otherwise. No offence, but you come across as hysterical. I'm on your side when it comes to the Tories and austerity. It's your shrieking hyperbole I've issue with. Your posts say otherwise or it was the wording off them, thats what i had an issue with. As for shrieking hyperbole as those in utter poverty how they feel about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Dirk McClaymore said: Needs help imo. Rich coming from someone who goes out of their way to justify Boris and Tory policies. Look closer to home who needs help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Ray Gin said: On 12/05/2022 at 14:24, Taffin said: 3 hours ago, Taffin said: It's not true in a domestic sense either though, as I said in the post I've just quoted. Also, Maroonlegions introduced global first. Again, in the post I quote. The vast majority of the poor haven't been impacted by Tory austerity in any way shape or form. In fact, they've probably never even heard of the Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Taffin said: The vast majority of poor don't live in the UK, Ray. Tory austerity has had no impact on them...sadly though, the Tory form isn't the only austerity in existence, as much as that may surprise people. Show me were i ever stated GLOBAL?? Show me were i USED the term GLOBAL in my post to you.?? You know very well that i was talking about UK austerity. It was YOU for some reason trying to imply i was?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, maroonlegions said: Rich coming from someone who goes out of their way to justify Boris and Tory policies. Look closer to home who needs help. Are you outside my window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 His summary of working from home is surprisingly quite accurate 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesM48 said: His summary of working from home is surprisingly quite accurate 😂 What a bellend, he's a lazy corpulent fornication so everyone else must be too. People can't just have something nice can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Smithee said: What a bellend, he's a lazy corpulent fornication so everyone else must be too. People can't just have something nice can they? I know really pished me off reading it . Obviously his pay masters are think that WFH people are skivving when they are apparently more productive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, JamesM48 said: His summary of working from home is surprisingly quite accurate 😂 The front page of that paper almost fecking daily makes me want to vomit violently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 What an absolute shitrag. 'Leftie Lawyers', are they the ones that stop authoritarians and populists like you from doing what you want? Anyone that seeks out or buys that paper should be euthanised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Nice to see the Queen back out working though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: What an absolute shitrag. 'Leftie Lawyers', are they the ones that stop authoritarians and populists like you from doing what you want? Anyone that seeks out or buys that paper should be euthanised Leftie Lawyers are the first people Johnson turned to when faced with a ****ing questionnaire about Downing St parties ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 "The law of the UK prevents us from openly being a far-right shitehouse, ergo The Law is lefty, ergo it must be destroyed" This is the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldChampions1902 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cade said: "The law of the UK prevents us from openly being a far-right shitehouse, ergo The Law is lefty, ergo it must be destroyed" This is the logic. Pretty much on the money. The thing is, once many of the Tory-types are directly affected by the introduction of these extreme policies/legislation, they suddenly realise what they voted for, but of course it’s too late then. It’s the exact same in my role as a Union Rep. The previously rabid anti-Union in my workplace flocked to the Union to sign up when our employer used ‘Fire and Rehire’ to take away peoples final salary pensions and remove other so-called ‘perks’. Absolute hypocrites. Edited May 14, 2022 by WorldChampions1902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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