SUTOL Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, Baxfee said: Just feel it was an opportunity missed as I want hearts to be in the best financial state they could be. You’re right - ordinary joe’s make the atmosphere, but big bucks keep us going. More than happy with the new stand though There were plans for boxes, but not with views of the pitch, but views over the plaza. Not sure if they have been changed to something else or just still to be done in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Baxfee said: I askedabout boxes which usually have 1st class views of the pitch. Whats private dining gone to do with my question? IIRC, there was a mention of boxes around the time the club were drawing up the plans for the stand, and it was confirmed that there wouldn't be any hospitality boxes with views over the pitch as the club wanted everyone attending matches to be sitting in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RobNox said: I'm sure the original plans were to include some private boxes. Indeed, if you go onto the hospitality section on the the Hearts site, there is a private boxes link, but it doesn't work. Was this something we planned to do, but changed our mind, or is it something that might still be planned, but shelved for now? There were never plans for private boxes overlooking the pitch. There are plans for a few (five IIRC) private rooms where groups can have pre- and post-match drinks, food, etc, away from everyone else, but they'll still have to go out into the stand to watch the actual match. I don't know when these are expected to be available, if they already are, or if that plan has been shelved/canned. I must admit that before plans for the new stand were unveiled, I had expected that they would incorporate private boxes where the games could actually be viewed from, and was surprised when the design didn't include them. I'm going on the assumption that research was done into what level of demand there would actually be in Edinburgh for different types of hospitality facilities, and what would provide the best balance of cost and revenue generation, before plans for the new stand were finalised, but given how plans for the 2nd floor were put on hold to reassess how to use those areas, and the reported issues with hospitality clients trying to get between the lounges and their seats at the same time as regular fans are trying to use the same routes to get to toilets, kiosks, etc, I am inclined to wonder just how much planning went into that whole aspect of the new stand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 hours ago, SUTOL said: When was there going to be a plant room on the roof of the main stand? I read it on here when the skyline view was being discussed. The club teewted a picture showing the castle from the area of the skyline, however a few posters stated that this would be obscured by the proposed plant room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Mr Brightside said: Random question and apologies if covered previously. Does the creation of a plant room under the School end stand mean that one won’t be installed on the roof of the main stand, therefore the view will not be impeded? The view from where exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: I read it on here when the skyline view was being discussed. The club teewted a picture showing the castle from the area of the skyline, however a few posters stated that this would be obscured by the proposed plant room. There would be no space for a plant room in front of the Skyline glazed screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Don't think the plant room was ever on top of the roof. It's the school that blocks most of the castle view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Has there much any work on the internals of the stand over the summer? Stuff like concourses and redesign of toilets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I'm sure Ann said that it would add several metres to the height of the stand so it wasn't really worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudi Hates Hibees Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 30 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? That’s how I remember it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Thomaso said: There would be no space for a plant room in front of the Skyline glazed screen 2 hours ago, Thomaso said: The view from where exactly? 2 hours ago, johnking123 said: Don't think the plant room was ever on top of the roof. It's the school that blocks most of the castle view. What I remember was people saying the view from the skyline lounge wouldn't be as per architects visualisations because of the school roof. At a later date Hearts released a photo where you could see the castle etc from the skyline, albeit quite far in the distance compared to the visualisations, and then there was mention of that view becoming obscured because of a ' plant room' being installed on the roof. This was all discussed on this thread. When I seen the recent photos of the plant room at the School end I though this was maybe a solution to the obscured view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: What I remember was people saying the view from the skyline lounge wouldn't be as per architects visualisations because of the school roof. At a later date Hearts released a photo where you could see the castle etc from the skyline, albeit quite far in the distance compared to the visualisations, and then there was mention of that view becoming obscured because of a ' plant room' being installed on the roof. This was all discussed on this thread. When I seen the recent photos of the plant room at the School end I though this was maybe a solution to the obscured view. Not sure where you seen this as there was never any plans to put a plant room on the top of the new stand.did a search of this thread, nope no plant room on the top anywhere Edited July 16, 2018 by XB52 More info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: What I remember was people saying the view from the skyline lounge wouldn't be as per architects visualisations because of the school roof. At a later date Hearts released a photo where you could see the castle etc from the skyline, albeit quite far in the distance compared to the visualisations, and then there was mention of that view becoming obscured because of a ' plant room' being installed on the roof. This was all discussed on this thread. When I seen the recent photos of the plant room at the School end I though this was maybe a solution to the obscured view. Hearts PR dept did stupidly release a computer image of what they thought the view would be before the stand was built. I cannot remember any chat about the plant room going on the roof, although there is some plant up there at the sides of the Skyline lounge. There is only a narrow walkway gap between the Skyline front glazed screen and the roof parapet, so there was never enough room there to put any plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Hearts PR dept did stupidly release a computer image of what they thought the view would be before the stand was built. I cannot remember any chat about the plant room going on the roof, although there is some plant up there at the sides of the Skyline lounge. There is only a narrow walkway gap between the Skyline front glazed screen and the roof parapet, so there was never enough room there to put any plant. Maybe it was the plant at the sides that blocked the view of the photo that Hearts took? Anyway,it looks lovely like the work at the school end has no impact on the plant at the skyline, which was what I was wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: Maybe it was the plant at the sides that blocked the view of the photo that Hearts took? Anyway,it looks lovely like the work at the school end has no impact on the plant at the skyline, which was what I was wondering. The sides of the Skyline lounge are not glazed - they are solid panels so there are no views in these directions from the lounge. Edited July 16, 2018 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Thomaso said: There is only a narrow walkway gap between the Skyline front glazed screen and the roof parapet, so there was never enough room there to put any plant. Not even a small yucca? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Just now, Hackney Hearts said: Not even a small yucca? Too spikey!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thomaso said: Too spikey!!!! Health & Safety gone mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunus Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 40 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said: What I remember was people saying the view from the skyline lounge wouldn't be as per architects visualisations because of the school roof. At a later date Hearts released a photo where you could see the castle etc from the skyline, albeit quite far in the distance compared to the visualisations, and then there was mention of that view becoming obscured because of a ' plant room' being installed on the roof. This was all discussed on this thread. When I seen the recent photos of the plant room at the School end I though this was maybe a solution to the obscured view. I recall someone asking if the castle could be seen from the very top of the stairs as that is above Skyline floor level. I believe they were told that the view would be obscured by plant. Probably just service ducting and cabling rather than anything more substantial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 13 hours ago, FarmerTweedy said: There were never plans for private boxes overlooking the pitch. There are plans for a few (five IIRC) private rooms where groups can have pre- and post-match drinks, food, etc, away from everyone else, but they'll still have to go out into the stand to watch the actual match. I don't know when these are expected to be available, if they already are, or if that plan has been shelved/canned. I must admit that before plans for the new stand were unveiled, I had expected that they would incorporate private boxes where the games could actually be viewed from, and was surprised when the design didn't include them. I'm going on the assumption that research was done into what level of demand there would actually be in Edinburgh for different types of hospitality facilities, and what would provide the best balance of cost and revenue generation, before plans for the new stand were finalised, but given how plans for the 2nd floor were put on hold to reassess how to use those areas, and the reported issues with hospitality clients trying to get between the lounges and their seats at the same time as regular fans are trying to use the same routes to get to toilets, kiosks, etc, I am inclined to wonder just how much planning went into that whole aspect of the new stand! Or it may have just been as simple a reason as cost or taking the capacity under 20k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, sunus said: I recall someone asking if the castle could be seen from the very top of the stairs as that is above Skyline floor level. I believe they were told that the view would be obscured by plant. Probably just service ducting and cabling rather than anything more substantial. Cheers, thought I was going mad and had imagined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 08/09/2017 at 20:17, obua said: On 08/09/2017 at 18:39, kila said: Is that from the sky lounge or the bit higher up behind it that houses the stairwells? Its higher than sky lounge,that view will be blocked by plant rooms when it's finished. Found the post I was looking for. Maybe I got my wires crossed on what Obua was referring too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? Have Celtic not got a hospitality area in their main stand that does exactly that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? An absurd law if so. Should have built the boxes anyway and boarded the glass until common sense prevails re the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? This is 100% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: Have Celtic not got a hospitality area in their main stand that does exactly that? Yes they have on both sides of the ground but they have to block off the view by closing the blinds an hour before until an hour after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershwin Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Would it possible to create a viewing platform on the roof of the sky lounge? That might solve the castle view problem. I'm sure I read on here it was being considered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gershwin said: Would it possible to create a viewing platform on the roof of the sky lounge? That might solve the castle view problem. I'm sure I read on here it was being considered... I think it was a future option but not sure where that got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, sunus said: I recall someone asking if the castle could be seen from the very top of the stairs as that is above Skyline floor level. I believe they were told that the view would be obscured by plant. Probably just service ducting and cabling rather than anything more substantial. If you are referring to the doors at the top of the central stairways in the new stand, they lead to two flights of stairs down to the lounge floor level. There is no ducting or services on the Skyline roof. The Club had asked for structural input from the new architects to see if it was feasible to have a viewing area from the Skyline roof level - that one seems to be on the back burner. Edited July 16, 2018 by Thomaso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? Not “sport”, just football. Fine at the rugby, golf etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Hope they get more tables/leaning area in the concourse for next season. Place to stand and much a pie is limited - too limited considering the space in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Oh and still hoping trees are put in place out in the plaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunus Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomaso said: If you are referring to the doors at the top of the central stairways in the new stand, they lead to two flights of stairs down to the lounge floor level. There is no ducting or services on the Skyline roof. The Club had asked for structural input from the new architects to see if it was feasible to have a viewing area from the Skyline roof level - that one seems to be on the back burner. Thanks for the clarification. Good to know there is no major engineering impediment to the skyline view that seemed to disappoint many last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 14 hours ago, sunus said: Thanks for the clarification. Good to know there is no major engineering impediment to the skyline view that seemed to disappoint many last year. The basic problem was the height of the school was under estimated prior to construction when Hearts PR dept starting broadcasting "castle views". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 20 hours ago, The Natural Order said: Yes they have on both sides of the ground but they have to block off the view by closing the blinds an hour before until an hour after the game. Shame the blinds are transparent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterintheRain Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 The basic problem was the height of the school was under estimated prior to construction when Hearts PR dept starting broadcasting "castle views". Given that the school was on the other side of the street and the plans were available on the Council website why was there any need to, "estimate," the height of those buildings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairyinthat Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, farin said: Took these earlier. nice sharp foties thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Not been in the shop yet. Looks impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, farin said: Had a look around the shop too, always quiet at this time of day. Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Chaps said: Green My first thought also ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Has there been any work done on the toilets? The layout was awful and there was a lot of finishing work needed and a few people suggested they'd be sorted in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Noticing the TV studio is almost complete, at least externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogel14 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Has anyone got any photos of the progress of work in the corner where the police control room was / is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 15:15, Chaps said: Green Hmmm... You must feel reeaallyy bad when you look out at our lovely new pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Flogel14 said: Has anyone got any photos of the progress of work in the corner where the police control room was / is? Check out the Hybrid pitch thread, there's a photo on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogel14 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Rudolf said: Check out the Hybrid pitch thread, there's a photo on that. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 On 16/07/2018 at 12:18, hughesie27 said: Wasn't the main reason behind no boxes with views of the pitch because in Scotland it is illegal to have a live view of sport where alcohol is also sold? It's nothing to do with the view, you cannot sell alcohol anywhere in the ground during the game (during the game in scotland is classed as from kick off until the game is completed so also includes extra time and penalties, in England they allow sales of alcohol during the half time interval) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ribble said: It's nothing to do with the view, you cannot sell alcohol anywhere in the ground during the game (during the game in scotland is classed as from kick off until the game is completed so also includes extra time and penalties, in England they allow sales of alcohol during the half time interval) What about the drinks served in Hospitality at half time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: What about the drinks served in Hospitality at half time? Not sold and pre ordered and it is hospitality which has its own rules, as behind closed doors etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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