GJamboR7 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Cheers. Notable that Aberdeen went from 21,000 at Loirston to "up to 20,000" at Kingsford. They've also reduced the height significantly to appease local residents and no doubt to help with planning permission. Loirston was to be 40 rows. Not sure what Kingsford is until we see the plans when they get submitted later this month, but it's to be 17.5 metres high apparently with the roof then adding an extra 4 metres. My guess is about 25 rows, which would be a hell of a drop from 40. Zzzzz.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Cheers. Notable that Aberdeen went from 21,000 at Loirston to "up to 20,000" at Kingsford. They've also reduced the height significantly to appease local residents and no doubt to help with planning permission. Loirston was to be 40 rows. Not sure what Kingsford is until we see the plans when they get submitted later this month, but it's to be 17.5 metres high apparently with the roof then adding an extra 4 metres. My guess is about 25 rows, which would be a hell of a drop from 40. If Aberdeen are building, going by the pics released, a wrap-around stadium then 25 rows seems about right for a 20K stadium. The images also seem to suggest that the stands will be a bit more shallow than Tynecastle, but Tynecastle is about as steep as you'll see anywhere (a nice consequence to being so boxed in by surrounding buildings). The capacity figures in these things are always manipulated to sound better than they are. Hearts released a statement not long ago boasting a capacity of "under 21,000" which meant a baw-hair over 20,000 in real terms, and about 19,600 in practical terms once you factor in segregation. . Edited January 12, 2017 by Buffalo Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I heard this morning that Chelsea have been given permission to build a new stadium. Moneys no object it appears. Chelsea's new 60,000-seat arena will be one of the world?s premier football stadiums when it opens in 2021, jubilant council leaders said today. Owner Roman Abramovich?s ?500m rebuild of Stamford Bridge, designed by the team who created Beijing 2008?s lauded Birds? Nest, was given unanimous backing by councillors in Hammersmith and Fulham. It means the current 41,600 capacity ground will be demolished to be replaced with a state-of-the-art venue, subject to final approval by London Mayor Sadiq Khan. Blues chairman Bruce Buck was among those to welcome the decision, which the club described as a ?significant step? in its history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This is like a scene from The Walking Dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The chemical works can GTF too Having actually spent some time working for MS there, I can tell you there is a lot more nasty stuff in there than a wee bit of ethanol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This is like a scene from The Walking Dead. That's a pic of Tynecastle, not Ibrox... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Having actually spent some time working for MS there, I can tell you there is a lot more nasty stuff in there than a wee bit of ethanol... Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Such as? Probably not a brilliant idea to state all and sundry on a public forum, as i'm not sure the information is freely available. However, I'll say that the oleum was probably the worst when I was there, no-one was allowed either inside the building or within about 50 ft of the tanker when it was being delivered. Nasty, nasty stuff that you really don't want to be around a leak of. I'll follow that up with saying there are, as you would expect, the proper safeguards in place for dealing with that and all the other things that are used on-site there. Edited January 12, 2017 by trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Still bearing in mind the HSE guy at the planning hearing said the chances of an incident are so minimal as to be practically zero. Of course if we have to do more on the wall so be it. Just part of the safety provisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 .....Tynecastle is about as steep as you'll see anywhere (a nice consequence to being so boxed in by surrounding buildings).... . Tynecastle's three current stands (Wheatfield, Roseburn, and Gorgie) were designed and built as steeply as was permitted at the time. Shortly after, building regulations changed, meaning no one would subsequently be allowed to build such steep stands, and the new old stand (?) wouldn't be able to be an exact match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This famous wall does anybody know what size of a wall we are speaking about, because i dont have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sat down here right now, first time tryin to upload pics so hope this works. Spoke to a foreman there who told me they're still in the process of bringing all the pieces together from the manufacturer (which he told me is a steel works in Motherwell). He said its gonny be another couple of weeks before they're ready to start welding the pieces together. As I took these pics there were pieces being removed by crane from the back of the transporters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199171600 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199171845 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199172139 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199172538 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199172538 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Impressive fake videos almost as good as the Moon Landing ones. Anyone following Greenginger and co. realises this is one huge con Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Leyenda Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If Aberdeen are building, going by the pics released, a wrap-around stadium then 25 rows seems about right for a 20K stadium. The images also seem to suggest that the stands will be a bit more shallow than Tynecastle, but Tynecastle is about as steep as you'll see anywhere (a nice consequence to being so boxed in by surrounding buildings). The capacity figures in these things are always manipulated to sound better than they are. Hearts released a statement not long ago boasting a capacity of "under 21,000" which meant a baw-hair over 20,000 in real terms, and about 19,600 in practical terms once you factor in segregation. . Yeh the Loirston capacity was 21,000, but was actually just a seating capacity of 20,539 (once executive boxes and wheelchair spaces removed). Then, once media/directors seats/sponsors were taken away the total number of tickets that would have went on sale to fans would have been 18,559. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Impressive fake videos almost as good as the Moon Landing ones. Anyone following Greenginger and co. realises this is one huge con Went out and bought 3D glasses when I heard there would be video footage. Feeling cheated now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Probably not a brilliant idea to state all and sundry on a public forum, as i'm not sure the information is freely available. However, I'll say that the oleum was probably the worst when I was there, no-one was allowed either inside the building or within about 50 ft of the tanker when it was being delivered. Nasty, nasty stuff that you really don't want to be around a leak of. I'll follow that up with saying there are, as you would expect, the proper safeguards in place for dealing with that and all the other things that are used on-site there. Cheers - so basically your post was a wee bit of scaremongering then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 There's a video on Facebook from Hearts now of one of the deliveries arriving. Nice bit of reversing from the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 This is like a scene from The Walking Dead. Its from behind! Does your arse look any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Nicked from Twitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Green ginger, with a little photoshop help, will have the hobbits convinced were shipping in long range missile systems. Clearly not covered by either planning permission, health and safety or any known international arms treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Cheers - so basically your post was a wee bit of scaremongering then? Ha, wasn't meant to come across like that, more so that ethanol is not the worst thing in our surrounding area. Although I imagine the existing safeguards for that are suitable for the current environment as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 https://vimeo.com/199172538 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FFS you're showing off now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm still not convinced this is totally happening. Am I doing this right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 FFS you're showing off now Here, as Dode Michael once said, "If yer gonny do it do it right" right? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Green ginger, with a little photoshop help, will have the hobbits convinced were shipping in long range missile systems. Clearly not covered by either planning permission, health and safety or any known international arms treaty. It'll be yon BUK thing that they used to shoot down that plane a while back in disguise. That'll somehow be our fault as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm not sure what's in the sorriest condition. The Roseburn Stand or my old school canteen. . I remember that canteen well the food was crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Just watched the Hearts social media video of the truck reversing in with truss parts. That is really bloody impressive! Not just a tight reverse off Gorgie Road with a parked car along the way but the entrance into the site too. Shame the Hearts PR person filming did a shite job and held their phone vertically... Edited January 12, 2017 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 There's a video on Facebook from Hearts now of one of the deliveries arriving. Nice bit of reversing from the driver. Just saw that and i get annoyed when i cant park in a tight space first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sat down here right now, first time tryin to upload pics so hope this works. Spoke to a foreman there who told me they're still in the process of bringing all the pieces together from the manufacturer (which he told me is a steel works in Motherwell). He said its gonny be another couple of weeks before they're ready to start welding the pieces together. As I took these pics there were pieces being removed by crane from the back of the transporters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Great pics but is the timescale not a wee bit worrying as I thought we were supposed to be lifting it into place in a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Great pics but is the timescale not a wee bit worrying as I thought we were supposed to be lifting it into place in a couple of weeks.12days to be exact. Guessing it doesnt take long to be welded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabber Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 12days to be exact. Guessing it doesnt take long to be welded. I think that's only 8 working days unless they have permission to work outside normal hours .Will be well impressed if they can assemble all that steelwork in that timescale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 It depends on what the wall is actually for. 1) If it is just for improving/replacing the existing bund walls, then some bricks and mortar will do (quite cheap) 2) If it is for protection from thermal radiation in the event of a fire, then you need to use firebrick or some other refractory material (slightly less cheap) 3) If it is for blast protection then we are talking massive foundations, reinforced concrete and a lot of design work (expensive) The improvements to the bund wall are for containing the liquid in the tanks. The imporvements need to demonstrate that they contain the force of a catastrophic failure as well as the volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sat down here right now, first time tryin to upload pics so hope this works. Spoke to a foreman there who told me they're still in the process of bringing all the pieces together from the manufacturer (which he told me is a steel works in Motherwell). He said its gonny be another couple of weeks before they're ready to start welding the pieces together. As I took these pics there were pieces being removed by crane from the back of the transporters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The new goalposts look a bit big..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troonmaroon Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 No reason publically given as such, but bits and bobs Ann's said gives the impression that height restriction was a factor, probably HSE factors too when considering the large ethanol tanks nearby. We were more likely to get planning permission with 20K. ...and cost factors too probably. I also don't think capacity was the number one priority with this project. Facilities was number one. And my word, they look good. 20K is about right in that we'll keep Tynecastle at the fuller end of full, but personally, I wanted 21K so that we could get 20K+ crowds in again, but perhaps that's more an ego thing. . Last I saw I thought we were aiming for around 20,900 seats. Aren't figs along those lines in the planning/building warrant drawings? Or has it dropped as far as that after tweaks here and there eg dugouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Last I saw I thought we were aiming for around 20,900 seats. Aren't figs along those lines in the planning/building warrant drawings? Or has it dropped as far as that after tweaks here and there eg dugouts? 20,099 in total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Debut 4, on 12 Jan 2017 - 8:04 PM, said:Debut 4, on 12 Jan 2017 - 8:04 PM, said:The new goalposts look a bit big..... Sammon still wont score :-( Edited January 12, 2017 by hearts007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sammon still wont score :-(aye, he'd still put it over the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts007 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Debut 4, on 12 Jan 2017 - 8:37 PM, said:aye, he'd still put it over the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgie83 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Anyone know how high the truss is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Order Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not much going on today (was down before the delivery ). At least there was a couple of lads out painting the truss parts. Is it just me or does the temp nursery look better than the piece of shit we've just bulldozed? In other stadium news, they appear to have repainted a small section of the Wheatfield concourse floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Anyone keeping track of how long the steel workers are taking for their breaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I can't wait for these welders to start their work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Anyone keeping track of how long the steel workers are taking for their breaks? Well if they have a yellae viz jacket, it'll be breakfast at Greggs for an hour then another 1hour in the bookies at lunchtime and a latte break in the afternoon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Well if they have a yellae viz jacket, it'll be breakfast at Greggs for an hour then another 1hour in the bookies at lunchtime and a latte break in the afternoon!! We're over paying them if they have time and money for latte afternoon breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I can't wait for these welders to start their work. If these welders were any good, they would not be working at Tynecastle. Typical kickback, we expect far too much. Honest journeymen, let's get behind then. Moaners gtf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotter Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 We're over paying them if they have time and money for latte afternoon breaks. They better not start making a mocha-ry of the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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