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As I've said, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Corbyn had I lived down South. Murray is a snake and shouldn't be trusted, he's out and about out here knowing it's the JSA should he not get elected, I doubt Corbyn wants anyone like him near the party if he is elected.

If Corbyn was to get rid of everyone that opposed him he'd be left with hardly anyone left. His own deputy revolted against him ffs.

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Corbyn's not as angry a person like you Spacey. Many of his team are made up of his former opponents from the last leadership vote. It's a good thing. Dissent can be good to spur on debate and change. The SNP should try it.

 

Secretary of State for Scotland Murray... has a certain ring to it.

 

Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist.  All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto.  And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

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Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist. All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto. And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

100% spot on Boris. JamboX2 is deflecting big time on this. Murray is a political snake.

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Maroon Sailor

Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist.  All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto.  And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

Most radical manifesto ?

 

It fails to mention the magic money tree required to fully implement it and that's before the outcome of Brexit.

 

When you've got Abbott and Costello trying to work out figures for extra policing and childcare policy I think I'll reserve judgement on that manifesto.

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Most radical manifesto ?

 

It fails to mention the magic money tree required to fully implement it and that's before the outcome of Brexit.

 

When you've got Abbott and Costello trying to work out figures for extra policing and childcare policy I think I'll reserve judgement on that manifesto.

Labour at least allowed their manifesto to be independently costed, unlike the Tories. One of the biggest lies in this country is that the Tories are good with money.

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100% spot on Boris. JamboX2 is deflecting big time on this. Murray is a political snake.

 

I would imagine that the Tories and the SNP must fancy their chances at taking Murray's seat.

 

Ian Murray hasn't come out of the Labour leadership challenge looking at all good.

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It is still a radical manifesto for a mainstream Party.

 

It also doesn't require a money tree, it just requires companies and people to pay their taxes. We have reached a position in this country where it is accepted that they won't do we shouldn't bother trying to collect it. We need to reverse this culture.

 

 

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Weird how this "money tree" canard has popped up 100% concurrently with the rich building up wealth that rivals the economies of small nations offshore, isn't it?

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Weird how this "money tree" canard has popped up 100% concurrently with the rich building up wealth that rivals the economies of small nations offshore, isn't it?

 

Also weird the tendency of people who claim to want people in power who are "good with money" to ignore the very basic reality of economics that huge quantities of money just sitting there unused are massively deleterious to the economy, even without taking the lack of fair taxation on that money into account.

 

The basic function of money--pretty much its only function--is easing the exchange of goods and services.  If a huge slice of what's available to do that is just sitting, not doing anything, that is bad for the economy, end of.

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Also weird the tendency of people who claim to want people in power who are "good with money" to ignore the very basic reality of economics that huge quantities of money just sitting there unused are massively deleterious to the economy, even without taking the lack of fair taxation on that money into account.

 

The basic function of money--pretty much its only function--is easing the exchange of goods and services.  If a huge slice of what's available to do that is just sitting, not doing anything, that is bad for the economy, end of.

 

Quite.

 

Tax and spend is bad.  Is it?  If I pay tax I want it spent!

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I would imagine that the Tories and the SNP must fancy their chances at taking Murray's seat.

 

Ian Murray hasn't come out of the Labour leadership challenge looking at all good.

It should be interesting. Murray had a 2,637 majority in 2015, not massive. Add in that the Greens aren't standing there this time and they had 2,090 votes in 2015, it could be one of the closest run seats.

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Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist. All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto. And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

Frankly, if you're going to start punishing folk for what they say in a leadership election many politicians should be taken to task.

 

At the end of the day, if you want Labour you need to Vote Labour. Murray is the local candidate for me. He'll get my vote.

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People keep talking aboit the economy and things...like they actually care about.

 

I'll vote for the party that gives my kids the best and most for their future. And that certainly isn't the Tories. I don't earn hundreds of thousands of pounds and don't believe I ever will.

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100% spot on Boris. JamboX2 is deflecting big time on this. Murray is a political snake.

I think Murray is doing a Corbyn. Didn't believe in his leadership so didn't stay about. Returned to the back benches and is fighting hard for his seat.

 

The amount of Labour posters, flyers and letters I've seen and received outweighs the SNP and I've not seen a single SNP canvasser.

 

He's no Corbynista. But he's a hard working MP with a good team.

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Frankly, if you're going to start punishing folk for what they say in a leadership election many politicians should be taken to task.

 

At the end of the day, if you want Labour you need to Vote Labour. Murray is the local candidate for me. He'll get my vote.

 

Which Labour do you want?

 

With the PLP as it is I can't see Jeremy getting all that many of his announced policies through parliament and I have seen nothing from Murray to suggest that he is backing Corbyns policies. In fact, did you not state that Murray backed Corbyn as leader (and that was good enough for you) yet failed to state whether or not he backed his policies? Do you back his policies, or are you just happy to use him as a front in order to gain power?

 

There is no doubt in my mind that Ian Murray is a Tory with a red rosette, he has made that much clear throughout his time in parliament, and, as such, would be more than happy to vote with the rebels against Corbyn policy in order to scupper him, even though those policies are what the public are voting for.

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I think Murray is doing a Corbyn. Didn't believe in his leadership so didn't stay about. Returned to the back benches and is fighting hard for his seat.

The amount of Labour posters, flyers and letters I've seen and received outweighs the SNP and I've not seen a single SNP canvasser.

He's no Corbynista. But he's a hard working MP with a good team.

I've had nothing through my door from Labour or the Lib Dems

 

It's as if they are both resigned to a straight fight between Cherry and Briggs

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Governor Tarkin

Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist. All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto. And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

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In Murray's defence he did vote the correct way on Brexit and that was to follow what his constituency voted for.

 

Also Jeremy can't really complain about MPs not following whips, he never did.

 

I am not defending the PLP here, they acted dreadfully over the two leadership contests.

 

 

That may be true, but my point is, can we trust the PLP (including Ian Murray) to vote in favour of Corbyn's announced policies throughout his term as PM (if he gets voted in)?

 

There haven't been too many rebels coming out in force backing the policies. They seem to be pretty quiet just now.

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I think Murray is doing a Corbyn. Didn't believe in his leadership so didn't stay about. Returned to the back benches and is fighting hard for his seat.

 

The amount of Labour posters, flyers and letters I've seen and received outweighs the SNP and I've not seen a single SNP canvasser.

 

He's no Corbynista. But he's a hard working MP with a good team.

 

But this is the problem you have, and Labour as a party, there are people in believe in the Labour party as the party of the centre-left, the working people, more socialist in nature, which is the manifesto that has been put up and personified by Corbyn, and the people who are New Labour and see the party in what could be described as more Thatcher like. It's very much split between these factions, the ordinary member tends to be in the former category but the PLP very much in the latter. I believe you'd see yourself in the former category but you are voting for someone in the latter, a man who would happily see the first faction defeated.

 

You're voting Labour, but you're voting for the wrong type of Labour with Murray imo.

 

 

I've had nothing through my door from Labour or the Lib Dems

 

It's as if they are both resigned to a straight fight between Cherry and Briggs

 

Same but isn't JamboX2 in a different area, I think we must be South West and he is just South?

 

Interestingly Briggs ran in South last time but is running in South West this time.

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Are you the Judean People's Front?

**** off. 'Judean People's Front'. we're the People's Front Of Judea!

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Corbyn is an arse.

"Jeremy Corbyn has accused Theresa May of being ?subservient? to Donald Trump after she remained silent over the Paris Agreement on climate change and only expressed her disappointment after the US President announced his decision to quit the accord."

 

"Prime Minister Theresa May has told Donald Trump of her "disappointment" with his decision to pull the US out of the 2015 Paris climate agreement."

 

"In a phone call with the US president, Mrs May said the UK remained committed to the deal, according to a Downing Street statement."

 

So phoning and speaking directly to Trump means May is being silent on the matter. Subservient my arse.

 

 

The other 3 leaders who site a letter expressed "regret" to Trump. They must be subservient as well!

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Labour at least allowed their manifesto to be independently costed, unlike the Tories. One of the biggest lies in this country is that the Tories are good with money.

Where are the findings from that...genuine question. I love to read it, Abbott aside and still a little bit of a scepticism around this new Corbyn..The sums on the manifesto have been steering me away from them.

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I've had nothing through my door from Labour or the Lib Dems

 

It's as if they are both resigned to a straight fight between Cherry and Briggs

I got theirs today. A serious waste of paper. "Vote for us we're opposed to brexit" chocolate teapots sprung to mind!

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Corbyn is an arse.

"Jeremy Corbyn has accused Theresa May of being ?subservient? to Donald Trump after she remained silent over the Paris Agreement on climate change and only expressed her disappointment after the US President announced his decision to quit the accord."

 

"Prime Minister Theresa May has told Donald Trump of her "disappointment" with his decision to pull the US out of the 2015 Paris climate agreement."

 

"In a phone call with the US president, Mrs May said the UK remained committed to the deal, according to a Downing Street statement."

 

So phoning and speaking directly to Trump means May is being silent on the matter. Subservient my arse.

 

 

The other 3 leaders who site a letter expressed "regret" to Trump. They must be subservient as well!

I saw that this morning also. Expressed regret..we're disappointed, not sure the difference. The Trump thing is a load of bollox anyway he'll be long gone before it matters, either impeached or term finished replaced by another Celebrity, I suspect Oprah Winfrey this time!

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I got theirs today. A serious waste of paper. "Vote for us we're opposed to brexit" chocolate teapots sprung to mind!

The irony is strong with this one!

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Corbyn is an arse.

"Jeremy Corbyn has accused Theresa May of being ?subservient? to Donald Trump after she remained silent over the Paris Agreement on climate change and only expressed her disappointment after the US President announced his decision to quit the accord."

 

"Prime Minister Theresa May has told Donald Trump of her "disappointment" with his decision to pull the US out of the 2015 Paris climate agreement."

 

"In a phone call with the US president, Mrs May said the UK remained committed to the deal, according to a Downing Street statement."

 

So phoning and speaking directly to Trump means May is being silent on the matter. Subservient my arse.

 

 

The other 3 leaders who site a letter expressed "regret" to Trump. They must be subservient as well!

 

A letter May decided not to sin as well!

 

May has expressed disappointment at Trump?s decision to pull out of the landmark deal on reducing carbon emissions but did not sign a joint statement between the leaders of France, Germany and Italy that made clear they believe the Paris agreement cannot be renegotiated.

 

Here is what Corbyn said

 

?Given the chance to present a united front with our international partners, she has instead opted for silence and subservience to Donald Trump. It is a dereliction of her duty both to our country and to our planet,? he said. ?That is not the type of leadership Britain needs to negotiate Brexit.?

 

Her actions show which side of the fence she is on.  

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I saw that this morning also. Expressed regret..we're disappointed, not sure the difference. The Trump thing is a load of bollox anyway he'll be long gone before it matters, either impeached or term finished replaced by another Celebrity, I suspect Oprah Winfrey this time!

 

Mickey Mouse for President!

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A letter May decided not to sin as well!

 

May has expressed disappointment at Trump?s decision to pull out of the landmark deal on reducing carbon emissions but did not sign a joint statement between the leaders of France, Germany and Italy that [/size]made clear they believe the Paris agreement cannot be renegotiated.[/size]

 

Here is what Corbyn said

 

?Given the chance to present a united front with our international partners, she has instead opted for silence and subservience to Donald Trump. It is a dereliction of her duty both to our country and to our planet,? he said. ?That is not the type of leadership Britain needs to negotiate Brexit.?[/size]

 

Her actions show which side of the fence she is on.  [/size]

 

Not really. May Spoke directly to Trump and told him what she thought and the UK will continue to support the Paris agreement. Also there has been no united front as only 3 of the G 7 signed the letter expressing regret.

 

Corbyn has tried to make political gain by denying what actually happened. He's shot himself in the foot over this one.

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Not really. May Spoke directly to Trump and told him what she thought and the UK will continue to support the Paris agreement. Also there has been no united front as only 3 of the G 7 signed the letter expressing regret.

 

Corbyn has tried to make political gain by denying what actually happened. He's shot himself in the foot over this one.

 

I don't see it that way, but then I'm thinking I'm more sympathetic to Corbyn than you are, so I doubt we will ever change each others minds!

 

Would have been 4 if the UK had signed, but May phoning and saying that she was disappointed is just as strong action...

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I don't see it that way, but then I'm thinking I'm more sympathetic to Corbyn than you are, so I doubt we will ever change each others minds!

 

Would have been 4 if the UK had signed, but May phoning and saying that she was disappointed is just as strong action...

My problem is that THEY all twist the facts to suit their own agendas. It does my head in and that along with not answering the questions and talking over each other.

 

Different sides of the divide but respectful to each each other's views.

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But this is the problem you have, and Labour as a party, there are people in believe in the Labour party as the party of the centre-left, the working people, more socialist in nature, which is the manifesto that has been put up and personified by Corbyn, and the people who are New Labour and see the party in what could be described as more Thatcher like. It's very much split between these factions, the ordinary member tends to be in the former category but the PLP very much in the latter. I believe you'd see yourself in the former category but you are voting for someone in the latter, a man who would happily see the first faction defeated.

 

You're voting Labour, but you're voting for the wrong type of Labour with Murray imo.

 

Same but isn't JamboX2 in a different area, I think we must be South West and he is just South?

 

Interestingly Briggs ran in South last time but is running in South West this time.

Yes I'm South.

 

Alphonse, we both know that's not a choice open to us under FPTP. I have to Vote Labour to get Labour no matter who that is.

 

These PLP MPs are the key to winning. If they win on Jeremy's Labour manifesto then they are morally obliged to stand by those policies and see them enacted.

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In Murray's defence he did vote the correct way on Brexit and that was to follow what his constituency voted for.

 

Also Jeremy can't really complain about MPs not following whips, he never did.

 

I am not defending the PLP here, they acted dreadfully over the two leadership contests.

Tbf they put him on the ballot in contest 1 haha.

 

But can't disagree with you BD. Good post.

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maroonlegions

Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist.  All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto.  And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

 

Murray should be taken to task for his comments previously regarding Corbyn.

 

He, Murray, comes across as an opportunist.  All the anto Corbyn rhetoric, yet it is this man who has led a Labour Party into an election with, compared to recent years, the most radical manifesto.  And people seem to like it because Blairite neo-liberalsim is a sham and no different from the Tories, and that is why our public services are in the nick they are in today.

 

Agree 100%

 

Take this apology to Corbyn below.

 

 

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/06/05/to-jeremy-corbyn-an-apology/

 
 
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maroonlegions

Seeing as May , the media and most far right neo Cons have been relentless in their attacks on Corbyns past, here is something more closer to home so to speak in regards to May and her possible reasons why she seemingly lost those  child abuse files that linked members of the House Of Commons.

 

I know there is a distinct lack of sources for this story, but it makes a compelling case. Did Theresa lose the child abuse files to protect her dad? A quick Google shows that there definitely was a child abuse problem, and a cover up, at his ecumenical house.

 

 

Theresa May's Father

The Serial Killer, The Travellers Daughter, and the Cover Ups
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Well when a paper like the Financial Times runs with a articule like this on Corbyn  then surely its resonating with their journos that Britain needs a change from Austerity and the attacks on public services.

 

 

 

"The Corbyn fightback is the result of an astute combination: deft political economy, personal affability and the accidental intrusion of dark, global forces into what had been a pale, parochial campaign".

 

 

Britain is not a leftwing country, but voters want a story to unify around
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Think Legions wants to take Corbyn in the mouth.

I was of the impression nobody actually read the shit that clown copies and pastes all over the site. I'm not surprised in the slightest to hear you say he's got man love for Jezza however.

 

Spineless waste of skin.

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Rudolf's Mate

I was of the impression nobody actually read the shit that clown copies and pastes all over the site. I'm not surprised in the slightest to hear you say he's got man love for Jezza however.

 

Spineless waste of skin.

:gok:

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I was of the impression nobody actually read the shit that clown copies and pastes all over the site. I'm not surprised in the slightest to hear you say he's got man love for Jezza however.

 

Spineless waste of skin.

 

 Feck off you prat, who you calling a clown, hard man eh.

 

Care to debate the fecking issuses in that shite or are you all fecking mouth.

 

Maybe youy can comment on a REAL clown called Boris in this piece of shite below.

 

Unless you fancy hm.

 

 

The Foreign Secretary was shut down by the BBC, who reminded him he also opposed 90-day detention - putting him on the same side as the Labour leader
 
MIRROR.CO.UK|BY MIRROR POLITICS
 
 
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:gok:

 

 

:laugh4:  Aye hilrious, seems the ultra neo Cons dont like it up em and Corbyn is doing just that.   :laugh4:

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:laugh4: Aye hilrious, seems the ultra neo Cons dont like it up em and Corbyn is doing just that. :laugh4:

You were away from your keyboard for a while. Did Jezza take you back to his after your date?

 

P.S. Loved your response to the other poster xx

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Think Legions wants to take Corbyn in the mouth.

 

 Feck all to say but through insults eh, make you a real man does it.

 

You are aware that this is a family forum you plonker.   :thumbsdown:

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You were away from your keyboard for a while. Did Jezza take you back to his after your date?

 

P.S. Loved your response to the other poster xx

 

 

Aye whatever, cant spend all my time on here , family man and all that ,some on here need to get a life though.

 

My other post to you is a anger one, flew off the handle mate, sorry. 

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