Victorian Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 i question craig whyte's sanity. i take it he's planning on doing a lord lucan after he's creamed off whatever he stands to cream off from this larceny. it's not exactly the greatest day in the buns history... but by the looks of things there could be mountains more pain still to come. whyte will not be forgiven lightly by the bun army. unless you stood to gain an enormous sum of money, why would you lpace yourself in this position? surely to hell he must have realised this was all likely to happen before he took over. he might end up making a bob or two from this, but i imagine he'll be less than popular if rangers go bangers heavenwards, and will always have to be looking over his shoulder for 'ra peepul'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Craig shite said he used one of his other business as collateral. But that could be baws. Has anyone tried to work out what assets rangers own? Can't Be much. Well there's the Fleck kid and I read on here that he'd be the next world class player to come out off Scotland. I have to assume that football isn't his first sport of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 No I'm not talking about the tribunal. HMRC's case against Rangers which is due to be heard. There is no "court case" RM. HMRC took Rangers to a Tax Tribunal last month. This is the "case" that has been heard, and the result is expected March/April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hopefully, Vlad will vote against any rule changes to help save the scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Zero sympathy for them. Years and years we've been screwed over by them, karma has come to bite them in the arse. In all of this massive thread, this is the one comment that speaks volumes of what I feel about this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Well there's the Fleck kid and I read on here that he'd be the next world class player to come out off Scotland. I have to assume that football isn't his first sport of choice. Allan McGregor is worth 20 mill according to half wit Goram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.org/petitions/her-majestys-revenue-and-customs-drop-their-legal-action-against-rangers-fc-regarding-the-clubs-ebt#share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieholt Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.org/petitions/her-majestys-revenue-and-customs-drop-their-legal-action-against-rangers-fc-regarding-the-clubs-ebt#share Aye, right ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.org/petitions/her-majestys-revenue-and-customs-drop-their-legal-action-against-rangers-fc-regarding-the-clubs-ebt#share Thats pure dead brilliant so it is . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanyl Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.org/petitions/her-majestys-revenue-and-customs-drop-their-legal-action-against-rangers-fc-regarding-the-clubs-ebt#share someone should open one demanding they get all their money :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 There is no "court case" RM. HMRC took Rangers to a Tax Tribunal last month. This is the "case" that has been heard, and the result is expected March/April. No worries mate. Thought it was a case however no understand why CW is now coming out telling people why it's more than expected. They are royally rooked! No pun intended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Killie chairman has already said they need Rangers. If a NEW Rangers are formed they can apply to the SPL and the clubs vote on wheather to accept it (which they would I believe) and the SPL can impose further penalties that have been vited on by the ither clubs. And under existing rules they need 9 votes out of 11 to bring in a new club. Or 8 out of 11 to change the rules on admission of a new club. So there needs to be 3 clubs willing to play tough with Rangers. TBH I am not optimistic there will be that many but it could be a wonderful opportunity if such 3 clubs could be found. Vlad/Sergiejus/Southern start lobbying now please. Edited February 13, 2012 by Francis Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.or...clubs-ebt#share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Thats pure dead brilliant so it is . The only shock was that it wasn't started by King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Stand by for the SFA investigation into Whyte as "fit and proper" being quietly filed away so as to, quote, "Not exacerbate a difficult situation"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 .....however no understand why CW is now coming out telling people why it's more than expected. Must admit that is a strange one.... Agree that they seem Donald Ducked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 And under existing rules they need 9 votes out of 11 to bring in a new club. Or 8 out of 11 to change the rules on admission of a new club. So there needs to be 3 clubs willing to play tough with Rangers. TBH I am not optimistic there will be that many but it could be a wonderful opportunity if such 3 clubs could be found. Vlad/Sergiejus/Southern start lobbying now please. IIMHO Killie, Dundee Utd, Motherwell, St Mirren, St Johnston, ICT would all vote for them to be 'Re-Instated' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysinourshadows Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 See if we were in the position rangers are in, would any other spl clubs help us? no, feck rangers, this whole scottish football wouldn't survive without them is a load of pish, just an excuse to save them from going bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Stand by for the SFA investigation into Whyte as "fit and proper" being quietly filed away so as to, quote, "Not exacerbate a difficult situation"! Probably won't want to prejudice the forthcoming.....?....well whatever's forthcoming, they definitely won't want to prejudice it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxburn_Jambo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Killie chairman has already said they need Rangers. If a NEW Rangers are formed they can apply to the SPL and the clubs vote on wheather to accept it (which they would I believe) and the SPL can impose further penalties that have been vited on by the ither clubs. Not a surprise, the Killie chairman is a big Rangers fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.or...clubs-ebt#share Aye, that should make them think twice... :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 No concern on the Scottish Government's part about non-payment of taxes? Worth bearing in mind if and when they get serious tax-raising powers. Yep. Nice to see an independent Scotland would take such a relaxing attitude towards companies that owe ?80 million in tax during such tough times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Celtic have requested that Hibs allow a minute's applause before Sunday's game at Easter Rd in light of the demise of RFC Edited February 13, 2012 by Footballfirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Aye, that should make them think twice... :rofl: I couldn't find the "No" box!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 IIMHO Killie, Dundee Utd, Motherwell, St Mirren, St Johnston, ICT would all vote for them to be 'Re-Instated' What makes you think Aberdeen, Dunfermline, Hibs and Celtic would not? I'd love to think they at least would make Rangers (and Celtic) accept some serious changes to the game as a condition of reinstating Rangers, but I can't se it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I couldn't find the "No" box!!! They have no boxes left Colin, Whyte is using them to build a great big fort where he can hide while the dust settles, no boxes and no pots, not even ones for pishing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl2002 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 fraser wishart on stv now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leginten Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://www.change.or...clubs-ebt#share Aye, right ! The degree of cant and hypocrisy in the comments bluenose fans have made on that petition almost defies belief. "Save Scottish football", "Without Rangers there is no Scottish football", "This proud Scottish institution" etc ad nauseam. Since when did a single one of these bigoted shop fronts give a twopenny **** about Scotland or Scottish football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Garcia Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 It has been a great day all round with this news. I love the denial factor from some many Gers fans who don't think its that big a deal as far as I can see it's the beginning of at least 5 years of trouble'hardship for them. On a sidenote as the man who broke this news to the Kickback masses if anyone would like to donate to a charity walk I am doing from Hampden to Loch Lomond for various children charities as a sign of thanks for breaking this news (shameless I know but every little helps) please see the below link and feel free http://www.justgiving.com/ChurchofCharlieAdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The degree of cant and hypocrisy in the comments bluenose fans have made on that petition almost defies belief. "Save Scottish football", "Without Rangers there is no Scottish football", "This proud Scottish institution" etc ad nauseam. Since when did a single one of these bigoted shop fronts give a twopenny **** about Scotland or Scottish football? and expect an ever-growing chorus along similar lines. scottish football... the entity that not long ago they would have had you believe was being heavily subsidised by them. the entity that the vast majority of them would have had you believe was holding them back from whatever riches and glory they believed was waiting for them in england or beyond. the entity to which they were quite happy to severe the umbilical cord from. throw all that in the bin though. now the bun sloganeers will be bashing out the 'LETS SAVE SCOATTISH FITBA BIG MAN LIKE' mantra. and they will have plenty of allies in the media and with some other clubs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebeto Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 What makes you think Aberdeen, Dunfermline, Hibs and Celtic would not? I'd love to think they at least would make Rangers (and Celtic) accept some serious changes to the game as a condition of reinstating Rangers, but I can't se it. Aberdeen are weirdos Dunfermline will be relegated so dont know who gets their vote? Celtic probably would vote for them and I dont ever think of the wee mob as they are dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 What makes you think Aberdeen, Dunfermline, Hibs and Celtic would not? I'd love to think they at least would make Rangers (and Celtic) accept some serious changes to the game as a condition of reinstating Rangers, but I can't se it. Dunfermline make more money In the 1st Division and also have a chairman who hates Rangers. They do have their own major financial issues though and poor old Jm Leishman may become a victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yep. Nice to see an independent Scotland would take such a relaxing attitude towards companies that owe ?80 million in tax during such tough times. An incredible assertion to make - It seems it's not only banks MP's will bail out but football clubs of little or no relevance outwith these borders. They will say anything to court favour with anyone gullible to listen to their rank patter - Never mind opposition fans, how does this party-line sit with haters / non-followers of the game??? Another finger on the pulse statement but our leaders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaka Demus & pliers Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) If scenario 3 happens (and they are allowed straight back into the SPL) then the game is a bogey! http://m.scotsman.com/scotland-on-sunday/sport/why_tax_case_casts_long_shadow_over_rangers_and_beyond_1_2112897 Edited February 13, 2012 by Chaka Demus & pliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chat Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 As much fun as this has been, I still wish it was the leith shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 As much fun as this has been, I still wish it was the leith shite. Le Chat always calls it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Tomorrow's Daily Record http://twitpic.com/8jj88h Edited February 13, 2012 by ritchies75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Where's the cracked crest.... The Record bottles it again. Pretty much guarantee that newspaper sales in Scotland will rocket tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydee Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would have preferred to have the Wallace money paid 1st. What implications is this going to have on us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Where's the cracked crest.... The Record bottles it again. Pretty much guarantee that newspaper sales in Scotland will rocket tomorrow. Also i think someone needs to tell them the definition of the word "Exclusive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I might think about buying the record, not the Sun though never ever again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterion Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would have preferred to have the Wallace money paid 1st. What implications is this going to have on us now. Very little - section C9 of the SPL Rules should protect member clubs from debts unable to be paid by other member clubs. ie. The prize money Rangers are due to be paid by the SPL - Hearts will get a chunk... Dunfermline are due money for cup tickets etc. We'll be paid one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio Garcia Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Many thanks for the donation from whoever you are Mr/Mrs Anonymous. And one paper better run with a broken crest, as someone said if they don't tomorrow they never will. Exclusive.....really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Tomorrow's Daily Record http://twitpic.com/8jj88h Still no broken crest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Tomorrow's Daily Record http://twitpic.com/8jj88h This could be even more amusing if Rangers end up in Liquidation.... I'm assuming that Craig Whyte would try to set up a NewCo, from that wee snippet in the record it looks like Johnston & SDM might set up a NewCo, and Ellis, Paul Murray, and King, are still hanging around. What fun it will be if they all end up fighting over who's NewCo gets to play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Winchester Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 This could be even more amusing if Rangers end up in Liquidation.... I'm assuming that Craig Whyte would try to set up a NewCo, from that wee snippet in the record it looks like Johnston & SDM might set up a NewCo, and Ellis, Paul Murray, and King, are still hanging around. What fun it will be if they all end up fighting over who's NewCo gets to play! Do they need to do this before they go into administration though? I.e. if they go into administration and after a few days there's no sign of a new-co is it essentially down the CVA route and a pre-pack is no longer possible? Pre-pack has to be the only thing he's really considering as I just cannot see HMRC accepting a CVA which essentially means liquidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandt Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would fully endorse a minutes silence at Parkhead if Rangers went under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munch Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I Have made the call i will part my hard earned cash for the record, but i will read the sun at the news stand then place it back. un paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarissa Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 It's zoned non-residential, so worth **** all on the market. (almost) Like Tynecastle then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One flew over Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Question - Babe station or News Night Sotland re run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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