Guest Bilel Mohsni Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's a bloody good job they have a "financial whizzkid" at the helm now though... Imagine the mess they would be in if they didn't have the man who "silently traded his way to one of the most powerfull offices in Scottish football" steering the ship? That doesn't bear thinking about to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 thank the heavens! another thread on the subject... taking the number to four. three wouldn't have been enough and could very easily have been missed on the first page of threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 thank the heavens! another thread on the subject... taking the number to four. three wouldn't have been enough and could very easily have been missed on the first page of threads. Moan moan moan moan. Jeez it gets boring. Interesting stuff indeed, OP. Cracking start to the day. That mixed with the Gary Oc news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 thank the heavens! another thread on the subject... taking the number to four. three wouldn't have been enough and could very easily have been missed on the first page of threads. Lighten up Jim. It's only a football forum. What else do you suggest we converse over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Lighten up Jim. It's only a football forum. What else do you suggest we converse over? it's only a bit of banter lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 :interesting: So what date is the tax court case? Believe its in November sometime, however even if they lose it will be dragged out with appeals im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icenoodle Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 One thing that seems to go unnoticed in the press is, even if they found a legal loophole, it's hugely immoral for a club like Rangers, who happily let all and sundry know how proud they of are of their British-ness and operate entirely in Britain, to be avoiding putting money into the national purse. ABSOLUTE ROASTERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 thank the heavens! another thread on the subject... taking the number to four. three wouldn't have been enough and could very easily have been missed on the first page of threads. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Jim is wrong. I dont think 4 threads is enough. Moar plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The longer the case drags out, the better. They continue to rack up huge legal bills and their team will get progressively worse as they sell off the best and replace with dross. Also, I wouldnt want their hideous fans to get off with a quick death. I want to see them suffer a few seasons of mid table misery before their club disappears forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If Rangers went down the tubes, I could see Celtic's demise not far behind - they are dependent on each other for their raison d'etre. I'm actually picturing them cracking the SPL badge just to avoid defacing the Rangers crest. Also could see them pitching it as a Scottish footballing disaster and saying we'll soon be at the league of Wales' standard. TBH, if it meant getting rid of 50% of Scottish footballs cancer, I'd rejoice at being the worlds worst league. It really wouldn't surprise me if it's soon painted as the whole SPL's demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If Rangers went down the tubes, I could see Celtic's demise not far behind - they are dependent on each other for their raison d'etre. I've said it before on here, I firmly believe Celtic would bail Rangers out if it came down to life or death with them. They would have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The timing of any administration could be very important for whatever team finishes 3rd in the SPL this season. If RFC are in administration on 31st March, but still likely to finish 1st or 2nd, then they won't be granted a licence to play in Europe next season. Given that there are 2 x CL qualifying places next season, then 3rd place could get one of those places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie-Brown Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Nonsense. Care to revise your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The timing of any administration could be very important for whatever team finishes 3rd in the SPL this season. If RFC are in administration on 31st March, but still likely to finish 1st or 2nd, then they won't be granted a licence to play in Europe next season. Given that there are 2 x CL qualifying places next season, then 3rd place could get one of those places. What I don't get about this 'tax case' is how come an organisation the size of Rangers don't know (or dispute) how much tax the need to pay? They clearly have people who deal with this type of thing for them, and have considerable years experience of multi million pounds transfer deals behind them. One things for sure if the taxman says its a certain figure, then that will be well backed up, wont change much, and will be paid in full ( no cut price deals with tax) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 ?480,000 frozen. Has Steven Whittaker been placed in the deep freeze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 One thing that seems to go unnoticed in the press is, even if they found a legal loophole, it's hugely immoral for a club like Rangers, who happily let all and sundry know how proud they of are of their British-ness and operate entirely in Britain, to be avoiding putting money into the national purse. ABSOLUTE ROASTERS. I don't think even Chick Young would have the brass neck to have "morals" and "Rangers" in the same sentence. One or two other journalists might, but only if the phrase "lack of" was added to the sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What I don't get about this 'tax case' is how come an organisation the size of Rangers don't know (or dispute) how much tax the need to pay? They clearly have people who deal with this type of thing for them, and have considerable years experience of multi million pounds transfer deals behind them. One things for sure if the taxman says its a certain figure, then that will be well backed up, wont change much, and will be paid in full ( no cut price deals with tax) Rangers and HMRC are disputing how RFC operated EBTs. RFC set them up to pay players a significant portion of their contract free of or at a reduced rate of tax. I'm sure that when they were launched in 2001 RFC thought they had a tax loophole. HMRC say otherwise, so the dispute isn't so much how much is due it is whether or not tax is due at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Found this on facebook, Whittaker on 28k per week??? Surely not! http://truthinfootball.blogspot.com/2011/09/money-being-wasted-at-ibrox.html?spref=fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 apparently whyte has been quoted as saying "there have been some shocking things uncovered" in the financial state of the club. so... shocking mistakes during the due diligence then. up ye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Found this on facebook, Whittaker on 28k per week??? Surely not! http://truthinfootball.blogspot.com/2011/09/money-being-wasted-at-ibrox.html?spref=fb biggest shock for me was when I discovered how much Steven Whittaker earns a week. Until this summer the former Hibs man was taking home ?7k a week. After he signed his new deal his wages were bumped up to ?28k a week, ?1.5 million a year. He is the highest paid player in the Rangers team earning ?4k a week more than Davis, ?3k a week more than McGregor and the figure that also shocked me was he earns ?11k a week more than star striker Nikica Jelavic Deary me. ?11K MORE than their top striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 biggest shock for me was when I discovered how much Steven Whittaker earns a week. Until this summer the former Hibs man was taking home ?7k a week. After he signed his new deal his wages were bumped up to ?28k a week, ?1.5 million a year. He is the highest paid player in the Rangers team earning ?4k a week more than Davis, ?3k a week more than McGregor and the figure that also shocked me was he earns ?11k a week more than star striker Nikica Jelavic Deary me. ?11K MORE than their top striker? I dont know where the story is from or who actually wrote it but if true its unbelievable especially as Rangers are in such a bad way yet Davis,McGregor and Whittaker were all handed these contracts by Craig Whyte!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 biggest shock for me was when I discovered how much Steven Whittaker earns a week. Until this summer the former Hibs man was taking home ?7k a week. After he signed his new deal his wages were bumped up to ?28k a week, ?1.5 million a year. He is the highest paid player in the Rangers team earning ?4k a week more than Davis, ?3k a week more than McGregor and the figure that also shocked me was he earns ?11k a week more than star striker Nikica Jelavic Deary me. ?11K MORE than their top striker? They thought a bidding war would break out when Bursa came in for him. Nobody did so the wages he's in to bump up the fee which won't come are a total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I dont know where the story is from or who actually wrote it but if true its unbelievable especially as Rangers are in such a bad way yet Davis,McGregor and Whittaker were all handed these contracts by Craig Whyte!! Unbelievable. I doubt they will be able to get rid of Whittaker in the next 5 years. Looking on the bright side for Rangers, if they go bust all the contracts will be terminated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I dont know where the story is from or who actually wrote it but if true its unbelievable especially as Rangers are in such a bad way yet Davis,McGregor and Whittaker were all handed these contracts by Craig Whyte!! For Davis and McGregor it is does to increase their sell on value although if they go into admin they become free agents and if they have a firesale other clubs are not going to pay the going rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Steven Whittaker ?28,000 p/w on a six year contract on top of his remaining year. ?10,192,000 Contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 biggest shock for me was when I discovered how much Steven Whittaker earns a week. Until this summer the former Hibs man was taking home ?7k a week. After he signed his new deal his wages were bumped up to ?28k a week, ?1.5 million a year. He is the highest paid player in the Rangers team earning ?4k a week more than Davis, ?3k a week more than McGregor and the figure that also shocked me was he earns ?11k a week more than star striker Nikica Jelavic Deary me. ?11K MORE than their top striker? ?28k a week for Steven Whittaker?! That eclipses any of the dodgy contracts we've given out over the past few years by a long way. No wonder their going down the shitter. There's a quote from Whyte saying he had to write a cheque for ?1 million to James Beattie, pretty sure he referred to it as pissing money away Every passing day just reveals more and more delightful insights into the abyss that is Rangers financial woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad-Stupid Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 ?28k a week for Steven Whittaker?! That eclipses any of the dodgy contracts we've given out over the past few years by a long way. No wonder their going down the shitter. There's a quote from Whyte saying he had to write a cheque for ?1 million to James Beattie, pretty sure he referred to it as pissing money away Every passing day just reveals more and more delightful insights into the abyss that is Rangers financial woes. Giving Beattie ?1m - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Neil Alexander 9k per week and who is Salim Kerkar? 3.5k per week!!!! :glorious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I've said it before on here, I firmly believe Celtic would bail Rangers out if it came down to life or death with them. They would have to. Celtic would need to. Remove Rangers and Celtic are left with only 1 vote and against a 11-1 voting system they lose out. I for one would love to see them squirm. It would be a like a scene in a film where a cruel and tyrannical boss is finally confronted by his abused workers and tear him limb from limb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Celtic would need to. Remove Rangers and Celtic are left with only 1 vote and against a 11-1 voting system they lose out. I for one would love to see them squirm. It would be a like a scene in a film where a cruel and tyrannical boss is finally confronted by his abused workers and tear him limb from limb. JiG! I didn't think your mind was capable of such darkness. True though. I can't see them ever actually acting (or admitting to acting) in order to bail them out but nonetheless, there must be a few squeaky bums at Parkhead right now. While the Celtic fans have a right old giggle over this, the management must be getting more than a little worried. I was determined not to pay too much attention to this saga - finance in football is very boring at the best of times - but I have to admit it's kind of growing in appeal at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Whittaker's not on 28k a week. Take 10 off it and your closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Whittaker's not on 28k a week. Take 10 off it and your closer. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossthejambo Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Whittaker's not on 28k a week. Take 10 off it and your closer. Still a fair wedge for a club with apparent financial issues, the million pound pay off to Beattie's where the real humour's at anyway. A million pound FFS :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Found this on facebook, Whittaker on 28k per week??? Surely not! http://truthinfootba...x.html?spref=fb Hang on. Either I've lost the ability to navigate a simple webpage or that's the only entry on this grandly titled "Truth in Football" blog... I didn't think it sounded like it had been written by a pro journalist. I'm even less convinced of its authenticity now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Absolutely Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 This. No, not that. Whittakers new contract is ?28k a week with bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 No, not that. Whittakers new contract is ?28k a week with bonuses. Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Wilder Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 No, not that. Whittakers new contract is ?28k a week with bonuses. However McGregor is 26k a week. HAHAHA. http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/3675018/Gers-keeper-signs-on-for-bumper-deal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 No, not that. Whittakers new contract is ?28k a week with bonuses. It really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Bumper contracts, million pound pay-offs and unpaid bills mounting?????????????..........BWAHHHHHAAAHAHAHAAHHA The tame press are manfully understating the absolute carnage that must be going on at Greyskull......In wonder who will cave in first and publish something off message and close to the truth? :keegan: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 He's brilliant that Whyte he said he wants the wage bill down to ?14m but since he has taken over the wage bill has went from ?16m up to ?21m so already his management of the club has cost them ?5m a year in wages and he can't blame that on Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Tarts 1874 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Setting aside my deep hatred of Rangers FC, I think it is a total disgrace that the HMRC has allowed Rangers to end up owing ?49m. Cleary a few funny handshakes must have been in evidence for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Dynamite Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Nah. Any evidence as to what he actually earns DH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Whittaker's not on 28k a week. Take 10 off it and your closer. 27990? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 27990? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Any evidence as to what he actually earns DH? Nope. And neither has anyone else on JKB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Winstone Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Nope. And neither has anyone else on JKB. I know what you earn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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