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Tommy Brown
16 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Lundin, Leven. Carnoustie, Arbroath, Monifieth & Montrose use mats.

Deliberated on winter membership last year at Aberdour, but they most likely were going to use mats.

Entered the Winter series at Fairmont. Only got 2 rounds because of covid. Needed welly boots on one of them.:lol:

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hmfc_liam06
43 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said:

Deliberated on winter membership last year at Aberdour, but they most likely were going to use mats.

Entered the Winter series at Fairmont. Only got 2 rounds because of covid. Needed welly boots on one of them.:lol:

 

Yeah Aberdour are 100% mats, I used to be a member there. Fairmont is always soaking in the winter, played it last December and you were walking through mud from tee to fairway, brutal :lol: 

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1 hour ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I'm surprised that the Links Trust in St Andrews opt for mats in the winter. It's the only links I've experienced that have taken this decision. Although I have heard through the grapevine that Kilspindie take this course of action too... :peepwall:

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Samuel Camazzola
1 hour ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Lundin, Leven. Carnoustie, Arbroath, Monifieth & Montrose use mats.

I played Lundin in December and it was off the turf. If it was meant to be from mats, I was oblivious to it. 😄

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1 minute ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

I played Lundin in December and it was off the turf. If it was meant to be from mats, I was oblivious to it. 😄

 

I think it comes into play each Jan.

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merrymac
17 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Yeah Aberdour are 100% mats, I used to be a member there. Fairmont is always soaking in the winter, played it last December and you were walking through mud from tee to fairway, brutal :lol: 

I know its a bit of a trek Liam, but Gullane do their winter "kiwi comp" think its about 6-8 rounds over the winter, and I think the Glen do an Monthly open stableford (Thursdays I think).

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Just now, merrymac said:

I know its a bit of a trek Liam, but Gullane do their winter "kiwi comp" think its about 6-8 rounds over the winter, and I think the Glen do an Monthly open stableford (Thursdays I think).

 

Will check them out, cheers.

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merrymac
2 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Will check them out, cheers.

👍 The Gullane one is on Facebook not the website

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I thought Gullane were stopping that Kiwi..

 

Too many ruffians and their like turning up, drinking on the course and what not! 

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hmfc_liam06
1 hour ago, Armageddon said:

https://www.niddrycastlegolfclub.co.uk/open-competitions

 

A wee Open at Niddry Castle on the 30th October - superb voucher prizes up for grabs!  Online sign up in the link above.

 

Might play that.

 

Looked like weekend of 2/3 October was a good one for Grant Wilson. Noticed he won the open on the 2nd. He come 2nd at our par 3 open on the 3rd and scooped £140.

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Samuel Camazzola

Anyone know of Edinburgh Western Golf Club (associated with the Braids)? It seems to be that from various unlinked sources, there has been something circulating about a couple of players doing the Open circuit with VERY suspect handicaps. Looks like prizes with scores associated with old 'Cat 1' handicaps are being scooped and not the 19/20 numbers they have been carrying around. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

Anyone know of Edinburgh Western Golf Club (associated with the Braids)? It seems to be that from various unlinked sources, there has been something circulating about a couple of players doing the Open circuit with VERY suspect handicaps. Looks like prizes with scores associated with old 'Cat 1' handicaps are being scooped and not the 19/20 numbers they have been carrying around. 

 

 

Edinburgh Western is definitely based at the Braids. Used to know a couple of members but not heard anything related recently.Not surprised to be honest, been an issue in Texas Scrambles for a number of years with prizes being won all over by the same groups. It is so easy to do if you are that way inclined, as there is no communication between clubs and obviously no central record in these kind of competitions. 

Happened to me years back. Was playing in one of these national comps finals that were all the rage at the time.(prize was a trip to USA) Played with two guys off 12/14 who were seriously hitting it like pros'. Raised a question mark with the organisers and they contacted their club, who had never heard of them. They had proper looking handicap certificates and everything.

So much trust involved in our game and unfortunately there will always be unscrupulous types looking to make a few quid.

WE had a member who never won a comp when there was a draw and every time he played with his mates he won!!

We had to make all comps drawn to sort it out, funnily enough he left shortly after.

Cheating in our game (in whatever form) is a lot more prevalent , than probably most folk think.

 

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6 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Edinburgh Western is definitely based at the Braids. Used to know a couple of members but not heard anything related recently.Not surprised to be honest, been an issue in Texas Scrambles for a number of years with prizes being won all over by the same groups. It is so easy to do if you are that way inclined, as there is no communication between clubs and obviously no central record in these kind of competitions. 

Happened to me years back. Was playing in one of these national comps finals that were all the rage at the time.(prize was a trip to USA) Played with two guys off 12/14 who were seriously hitting it like pros'. Raised a question mark with the organisers and they contacted their club, who had never heard of them. They had proper looking handicap certificates and everything.

So much trust involved in our game and unfortunately there will always be unscrupulous types looking to make a few quid.

WE had a member who never won a comp when there was a draw and every time he played with his mates he won!!

We had to make all comps drawn to sort it out, funnily enough he left shortly after.

Cheating in our game (in whatever form) is a lot more prevalent , than probably most folk think.

 

The one thing I don't agree with regarding the WHS is the non requirement to have returns within a season to prevent a handicap lapsing. The system could still be manipulated for guys only looking to enter scrambles etc but at least it provides a current contribution to the 20.

 

One of the examples of the two guys that has been doing the rounds is they played a better ball open with a gross - 1. With their 19 handicap, it equated ro - 20! 😂 🤣 

 

To put it into context, two guys with a +1 handicap shot gross - 8 for a net - 7. That's believable for guys of that ability. Two hackers with a 19 would be looking at low 80s at best. 

 

Their pattern of scoring has followed at another two places (at least). 

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hmfc_liam06

One thing I'm always suspicious of is folk booking the very last available tee time at an open when there's plenty other times available, especially scrambles.

 

"Oh so it's nett 55 to beat, aye?"

 

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3 hours ago, merrymac said:

Edinburgh Western is definitely based at the Braids. Used to know a couple of members but not heard anything related recently.Not surprised to be honest, been an issue in Texas Scrambles for a number of years with prizes being won all over by the same groups. It is so easy to do if you are that way inclined, as there is no communication between clubs and obviously no central record in these kind of competitions. 

Happened to me years back. Was playing in one of these national comps finals that were all the rage at the time.(prize was a trip to USA) Played with two guys off 12/14 who were seriously hitting it like pros'. Raised a question mark with the organisers and they contacted their club, who had never heard of them. They had proper looking handicap certificates and everything.

So much trust involved in our game and unfortunately there will always be unscrupulous types looking to make a few quid.

WE had a member who never won a comp when there was a draw and every time he played with his mates he won!!

We had to make all comps drawn to sort it out, funnily enough he left shortly after.

Cheating in our game (in whatever form) is a lot more prevalent , than probably most folk think.

 

 

To be honest I can see why that could happen.

 

I know I'm certainly a lot more relaxed playing with my mate during our midweek medals, and I tend to perform better in them. It also practically turns into match play at times between us, certainly if we are playing well and there's a wee bit of bouncing off each other.

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Tommy Brown
3 hours ago, merrymac said:

 

WE had a member who never won a comp when there was a draw and every time he played with his mates he won!!

We had to make all comps drawn to sort it out, funnily enough he left shortly after.

Cheating in our game (in whatever form) is a lot more prevalent , than probably most folk think.

 

Something I hate at my club.

PYOP, pick your own partner.

 

Creates cliques and against the whole meaning of a club to me.

How is a new member meant to play in that, or me Jimmy No Mates🥺

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joondalupjambo

The WHS system allows you to play a round and then enter your score afterwards if you want, i.e. without registering before you go out to play the casual counting round.  To me that is a real no no but it is happening.

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merrymac
18 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

To be honest I can see why that could happen.

 

I know I'm certainly a lot more relaxed playing with my mate during our midweek medals, and I tend to perform better in them. It also practically turns into match play at times between us, certainly if we are playing well and there's a wee bit of bouncing off each other.

This guy is a low cat 1 player so you would suspect it should not affect him negatively.

I am sure you have an off day even with your mates. He never seemed to😨

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merrymac
10 hours ago, joondalupjambo said:

The WHS system allows you to play a round and then enter your score afterwards if you want, i.e. without registering before you go out to play the casual counting round.  To me that is a real no no but it is happening.

I understood that you couldn't do that, because you have to be at the location to enter the scores, and if you delay afterwards there is a 0.5 (i think) addition to your handicap.

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25 minutes ago, merrymac said:

I understood that you couldn't do that, because you have to be at the location to enter the scores, and if you delay afterwards there is a 0.5 (i think) addition to your handicap.

Nope trust me you can do it.  I have stood beside players who have done it.  After they have played they have simply logged onto the system in the clubhouse, set up that they will play a casual round, then logged out, logged back in and entered their scores.  No delay there really.  Others who have no smart phone have played, gone home and logged into How Did I Do via their laptop and followed the same process. 

 

All have said as long as this is done within the same day it is ok.  They are seeing what they have scored and making a decision based on that before entering the score or not. For me that is just plain wrong.  

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10 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

Nope trust me you can do it.  I have stood beside players who have done it.  After they have played they have simply logged onto the system in the clubhouse, set up that they will play a casual round, then logged out, logged back in and entered their scores.  No delay there really.  Others who have no smart phone have played, gone home and logged into How Did I Do via their laptop and followed the same process. 

 

All have said as long as this is done within the same day it is ok.  They are seeing what they have scored and making a decision based on that before entering the score or not. For me that is just plain wrong.  

That makes the system totally pointless then

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joondalupjambo
1 minute ago, merrymac said:

That makes the system totally pointless then

Yep indeed it does.  I was always going to contact the R&A and ask about this but never got round to it.  I wonder if they really know this happens?  Surely they must?

 

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merrymac
16 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

Yep indeed it does.  I was always going to contact the R&A and ask about this but never got round to it.  I wonder if they really know this happens?  Surely they must?

 

I would contact Scottish golf via the app. There is a feedback option under the "more" tab at the bottom of the home screen. Be interesting to hear there response, it might explain a few players at my club who seem to have improved massively this season??, with no obvious improvement in medals.

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Samuel Camazzola
51 minutes ago, merrymac said:

I understood that you couldn't do that, because you have to be at the location to enter the scores, and if you delay afterwards there is a 0.5 (i think) addition to your handicap.

When I've played away rounds, I use the Scottish Golf app which requires your GPS read to be within an allowable proximity to register. 

 

For BRS, I believe you can sign in anytime, anywhere on the day and only need to submit a score by 23:59 to avoid being given a penalty round. 

 

Unless there is a one system rollout (which I believe SG are pressing for), there will be varying approaches to score submissions. 

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merrymac
3 minutes ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

When I've played away rounds, I use the Scottish Golf app which requires your GPS read to be within an allowable proximity to register. 

 

For BRS, I believe you can sign in anytime, anywhere on the day and only need to submit a score by 23:59 to avoid being given a penalty round. 

 

Unless there is a one system rollout (which I believe SG are pressing for), there will be varying approaches to score submissions. 

I only have experience of using the App which would explain it

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hmfc_liam06

You can 100% submit a score at your home club at any time if they use Howdidido.

 

I'm on the train home from Edinburgh right now and could easily stick a GP score in via the app.

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Samuel Camazzola
12 hours ago, Samuel Camazzola said:

When I've played away rounds, I use the Scottish Golf app which requires your GPS read to be within an allowable proximity to register. 

 

For BRS, I believe you can sign in anytime, anywhere on the day and only need to submit a score by 23:59 to avoid being given a penalty round. 

 

Unless there is a one system rollout (which I believe SG are pressing for), there will be varying approaches to score submissions. 

This was meant to state HDID and not BRS. 👍 

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Vlad Magic

Got my official handicap after a 25 year break from the game.

 

12.

 

Was 6 way back then so OK with that. Games actually really good considering the gap in playing. Can’t believe how far the ball goes!!! I’m hitting it 280-290 yards where as I was 240-250.

 

Equipment really has moved on!

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Vlad Magic

Got my official handicap after a 25 year break from the game.

 

12.

 

Was 6 way back then so OK with that. Games actually really good considering the gap in playing. Can’t believe how far the ball goes!!! I’m hitting it 280-290 yards where as I was 240-250.

 

Equipment really has moved on!

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Samuel Camazzola

Played the Torrance today and the condition was immense. Tees and greens were superb and fairways were pretty firm despite the amount of rain we've had. Still seems to be retaining the conditioning from when the European Tour visted. 

 

Unfortunately autumn maintenance on the greens kicks off on Tuesday for three days though so there will be a bit of disturbance. 

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On 09/10/2021 at 21:25, Samuel Camazzola said:

Played the Torrance today and the condition was immense. Tees and greens were superb and fairways were pretty firm despite the amount of rain we've had. Still seems to be retaining the conditioning from when the European Tour visted. 

 

Unfortunately autumn maintenance on the greens kicks off on Tuesday for three days though so there will be a bit of disturbance. 

 

They're meant to be ripping up those courses and replacing with a championship that runs more coastal - that might be false and just Chinese/Hong Kong whispers.

 

We were up there for a week, the weather was horrendous but the course playing very well - 4 rounds in 4 days = broken.

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4 hours ago, Armageddon said:

 

They're meant to be ripping up those courses and replacing with a championship that runs more coastal - that might be false and just Chinese/Hong Kong whispers.

 

We were up there for a week, the weather was horrendous but the course playing very well - 4 rounds in 4 days = broken.

I've heard of a handful of rumours ranging from the Kittocks closing, to the two courses being replanned into a new layout for the two, to a nine hole par 3 course being added into the extra land they have. I know the new owners are big on the golf scene so will wait and see what plans (if anything major) comes out. 

 

I played the Castle Course today and it was in good condition. From what was reported in the summer, I was prepared to be disappointed but it was far from it. 

 

Apart from playing the worst standard of golf in a long long time, I still enjoyed it. The wind was absolutely brutal and it was possibly blowing the hardest I've had to play in for many a year. Club selection was becoming pure guess work with having to go up around four clubs into the wind and carrying 9 irons 175 yards down wind. 

 

My handicap allowance was swallowed up after 4 holes! 😂 

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hmfc_liam06

Haven't played in a couple weeks and tbh I've lost the bug a bit. 

 

Got down to 8, then game fell to bits and can barely hit 16 never mind 8. Zero confidence and no desire to go out for a round.

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10 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

Haven't played in a couple weeks and tbh I've lost the bug a bit. 

 

Got down to 8, then game fell to bits and can barely hit 16 never mind 8. Zero confidence and no desire to go out for a round.

Sympathy's mate its murder when that happens.

If you have a driving range nearby try to go there a couple of times a week, and concentrate solely on striking, until you feel you have your confidence back. Avoid playing during that period.

It works for me, and gets you away from the end result, and focus on making a good swing.

Hope it helps.  

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30 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Sympathy's mate its murder when that happens.

If you have a driving range nearby try to go there a couple of times a week, and concentrate solely on striking, until you feel you have your confidence back. Avoid playing during that period.

It works for me, and gets you away from the end result, and focus on making a good swing.

Hope it helps.  

 

Brutal eh? I've gone from wanting to play practically every day to having played 4 or 5 times since the start of September.

 

There's a range yeah. I think I'm going to take up a local coaches winter lesson package. It's a great deal, £120 for 2 half hour lessons per month, October to March.

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27 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Brutal eh? I've gone from wanting to play practically every day to having played 4 or 5 times since the start of September.

 

There's a range yeah. I think I'm going to take up a local coaches winter lesson package. It's a great deal, £120 for 2 half hour lessons per month, October to March.

That's a good plan, having a thought to focus on can really help.

Often when you play a lot you start to forget what the object of the game is, and lose focus.

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15 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

Haven't played in a couple weeks and tbh I've lost the bug a bit. 

 

Got down to 8, then game fell to bits and can barely hit 16 never mind 8. Zero confidence and no desire to go out for a round.

I played Monday first time in months can’t see myself playing again this year. I have been choked with the flu what never helped . Drumoig is a no bad course the turn is good done not bad never lost a ball to the water 😂
 

Think the clubs will be getting put in the shed for the winter this weekend . 

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Playing Gleneagles PGA on Thursday!  

 

I've played the queens.. looking forward to it

 

 

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Samuel Camazzola
7 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Brutal eh? I've gone from wanting to play practically every day to having played 4 or 5 times since the start of September.

 

There's a range yeah. I think I'm going to take up a local coaches winter lesson package. It's a great deal, £120 for 2 half hour lessons per month, October to March.

That's a good deal. Where is this about. 

 

Often it's the simple things that can make a difference. This short snippet from Trevino is very good and worthwhile taking to the range. 

 

 

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Samuel Camazzola
10 minutes ago, Bigsmak said:

Playing Gleneagles PGA on Thursday!  

 

I've played the queens.. looking forward to it

 

 

I liked it a lot. Some cracking holes. 

 

Garcia's shot on 18 when paired with Rory in 2014 was put into perspective when I played the hole myself. How he managed to manoeuvre a wood from trees on the right to a green that sits like a table top was sensational. 

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6 minutes ago, Bigsmak said:

Playing Gleneagles PGA on Thursday!  

 

I've played the queens.. looking forward to it

 

 

Good course sure you will enjoy it.

Hope your feeling fit, a few long walks between holes.

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12 minutes ago, merrymac said:

Good course sure you will enjoy it.

Hope your feeling fit, a few long walks between holes.

 

feck

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bigsmak said:

 

feck

 

 

😂 better book a buggy then

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Quick question, I handed in an iron to be repaired 3 weeks ago with local pro. They said it had to be sent to Ping for repair. Do you think it should have been returned by now or am I being impatient?

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54 minutes ago, dicksojo said:

Quick question, I handed in an iron to be repaired 3 weeks ago with local pro. They said it had to be sent to Ping for repair. Do you think it should have been returned by now or am I being impatient?


What was the issue with it? Mailing away and getting it returned will take weeks I imagine. 

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8 minutes ago, kila said:


What was the issue with it? Mailing away and getting it returned will take weeks I imagine. 

Broken shaft. Might give them a call today and see how it’s getting on.

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