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Agentjambo
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Heart of Midlothian FC interested in Abbas Atto

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Would still like David Watson from Killie but he's probably too tough to pry away. Also probably redundant if Dhanda comes.

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I would like a new RB/RWB - Don't feel Atkinson is consistent enough and I doubt we'll keep Dexter. Also would like to see some forwards signed. I can't shake the feeling that our attack is actually bang average and its just fortunate that we have such a fantastic striker in Shankland. Would like to raise the standards of the players Shanks has around him. 

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Love to see us make a move for Lyall Cameron. I think he is a cracking wee player.

 

An Aberdeen fire sale might be interesting.

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2 minutes ago, OTT said:

I would like a new RB/RWB - Don't feel Atkinson is consistent enough and I doubt we'll keep Dexter. Also would like to see some forwards signed. I can't shake the feeling that our attack is actually bang average and its just fortunate that we have such a fantastic striker in Shankland. Would like to raise the standards of the players Shanks has around him. 

Lasse Sorensen of Lincoln city 4 goals and 6 assists from RWB and out of contract in the summer 

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5 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

Lasse Sorensen of Lincoln city 4 goals and 6 assists from RWB and out of contract in the summer 

He is a midfielder. But has played a few games wingback 

 

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Agentjambo
3 minutes ago, johnking123 said:

He is a midfielder. But has played a few games wingback 

 

If we play a back 3 he can play RWB,a back 4 at RB

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Muppetboy
15 minutes ago, Agentjambo said:

Lasse Sorensen of Lincoln city 4 goals and 6 assists from RWB and out of contract in the summer 

Lincoln City?? Wtf

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johnking123
1 minute ago, Muppetboy said:

Lincoln City?? Wtf

Some good players in that division. We did get Kent from that division.

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24 minutes ago, OTT said:

I would like a new RB/RWB - Don't feel Atkinson is consistent enough and I doubt we'll keep Dexter. Also would like to see some forwards signed. I can't shake the feeling that our attack is actually bang average and its just fortunate that we have such a fantastic striker in Shankland. Would like to raise the standards of the players Shanks has around him. 


I know what you mean, but you are still effectively saying ‘our attack would be rubbish if we didn’t have our best player’.

 

We do need decent backup. I like Vargas and hope we keep him. I like Oda too, but I don’t think Boyce (for all that he has been great for us) is a reliable option any more, and Tagawa is unproven at best. So I’d hope we are looking for at least one more in that area (two if we cash in on Shankland, which has to be a real possibility).

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I know what you mean, but you are still effectively saying ‘our attack would be rubbish if we didn’t have our best player’.

 

We do need decent backup. I like Vargas and hope we keep him. I like Oda too, but I don’t think Boyce (for all that he has been great for us) is a reliable option any more, and Tagawa is unproven at best. So I’d hope we are looking for at least one more in that area (two if we cash in on Shankland, which has to be a real possibility).

 

I know where you're coming from, and if we didn't have Shankland we'd have had probably a 10-15 goal a season striker in there instead, but my issue is that it just doesn't seem like the players around him are doing their bit. Shankland regularly having to drop as deeply as he does because he's not seeing hide nor hair of the ball is a problem IMO. 

 

I'm not saying anyone is shit, just that getting some improvements in wouldn't go a miss. Armstrong or Cowan for example would be huge signings. 

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Weonly151

We might need a centre half, depending on Halkett.

 

A right back ?

 

Winger - Break the bank for Armstrong, I'd hope around 750 000 to a million would get  him.

 

CM - Allan Campbell, Greg Docherty, Lyall Cameron 

 

Striker - Devante Cole?

 

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kingantti1874

James Penrice, Danny Armstrong, Lennon Miller and Allan Campbell would be top top business.

 

we also need a striker defo but personally not aware of many.  Biereth was my January suggestion but suppose he’s unobtainable now 

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kingantti1874
21 minutes ago, Muppetboy said:

Lincoln City?? Wtf


Yes most of our signing come from smaller clubs. Always have done 

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15 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

James Penrice, Danny Armstrong, Lennon Miller and Allan Campbell would be top top business.

 

we also need a striker defo but personally not aware of many.  Biereth was my January suggestion but suppose he’s unobtainable now 

 

If Savage pulled that out the hat, there would be a fan made statue going up on the Plaza by August :D 

 

(Probably torn down again by Sept, but lets cross that bridge when we come to it :P

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weegie jambo

Blair Spittal has impressed me anytime I've seen him. Hits a good dead ball, scores some screamers and looks a better option than Fraser.

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I’d be making Luke McCowan and Danny Armstrong our top priorities. Sounds like Dhanda and Penrice could be on the way too. Would Ryan Hardie be out of our price range for a striker option? Seems to be scoring goals.

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Squad of 26.

Loans out.

With Stone,2025 contract expires.

Lewis Neilson.

 

Beni out of contract.

Haring out of contract.

Mcgovern out of contract.

 

Loans in Fraser till end of season.

Lembikisa till end of season.

 

Apologies Dhanda pre contract.

In talks with Penrice.

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innerjambo
6 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said:

I’d be making Luke McCowan and Danny Armstrong our top priorities. Sounds like Dhanda and Penrice could be on the way too. Would Ryan Hardie be out of our price range for a striker option? Seems to be scoring goals.

 

I think Dhanda is done and dusted, isn't it?

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Bongo 1874

Potential outgoings from sales my opinion.

 

Rowles.

Cochrane.

Shankland. 

 

As it stands.

Out of contract.

Beni.

Haring.

Mcgovern. 

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cosanostra
6 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Potential outgoings from sales my opinion.

 

Rowles.

Cochrane.

Shankland. 

 

As it stands.

Out of contract.

Beni.

Haring.

Mcgovern. 

 

Why would we want to sell Rowles? Our defence is generally decent apart from when we play the Huns. I think he's still got 3 or 4 years of contract left as well. Not sure anyone would pay what we'd want for him. 

It seems clear that there's something going on with Cochrane so I reckon he might leave. Not heard anything about Penrice in a while.

It'll be extremely interesting to see what happens with Shankland. I don't see the Huns paying what we'd want and there hasn't been much if any concrete interest from elsewhere. I'd be sad to see him go but if we get a good offer then I understand why he'd want to go and we'd let him.

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 1 Craig Gordon
 2 Zander Clark

 3 Harry Stone

 

 4 Nathaniel Atkinson
 5 Lewis Neilson
 6 Frankie Kent
 7 Craig Halkett
 8 Toby Sibbick   X
 9 Kye Rowles

 10 Stephen Kingsley

 11 Alex Cochrane  X

 

 12 Calem Nieuwenhof
 13 Cameron Devlin
 14 Macauley Tait
 15 Jorge Grant    X
 16 Callum Sandilands

 17 Finlay Pollock

 18 Aidan Denholm

 

 19 Barrie McKay
 20 Yutaro Oda

 21 Alan Forrest

 22 Yan dhanda

 

 23 Kyosuke Tagawa   X
 24 Liam Boyce
 25 Kenneth Vargas

 26 lawrence shankland   X

 

What the squad looks like next season if Beni does not sign. 

X is for players we could lose or move on.

 

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RustyRightPeg
4 hours ago, cosanostra said:

 

Why would we want to sell Rowles? Our defence is generally decent apart from when we play the Huns. I think he's still got 3 or 4 years of contract left as well. Not sure anyone would pay what we'd want for him. 

It seems clear that there's something going on with Cochrane so I reckon he might leave. Not heard anything about Penrice in a while.

It'll be extremely interesting to see what happens with Shankland. I don't see the Huns paying what we'd want and there hasn't been much if any concrete interest from elsewhere. I'd be sad to see him go but if we get a good offer then I understand why he'd want to go and we'd let him.

 

What do you think we'd want for Rowles?

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Anyone know what's happened to Dhanda? Not been in the squad at all the the last while for Ross County. 


Still got no official confirmation he's signed for us either.

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jamboinglasgow
35 minutes ago, Chimp said:

Anyone know what's happened to Dhanda? Not been in the squad at all the the last while for Ross County. 


Still got no official confirmation he's signed for us either.

 

I think he is injured.

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cosanostra
38 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

 

What do you think we'd want for Rowles?

 

Unsure tbh. I think he's replaceable but I also think he's popular and an important part of the squad. If he got interest and wanted to go, I reckon £1.2-£1.5m or something. He's left footed, young and a full international so maybe more. 

How much do you think we'd want for him?

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RustyRightPeg
2 minutes ago, cosanostra said:

 

Unsure tbh. I think he's replaceable but I also think he's popular and an important part of the squad. If he got interest and wanted to go, I reckon £1.2-£1.5m or something. He's left footed, young and a full international so maybe more. 

How much do you think we'd want for him?

 

I'm glad you said in the millions. Being truthful, I think you're not far off. Anything more than that + a sell on is a bonus.

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13 minutes ago, cosanostra said:

 

Unsure tbh. I think he's replaceable but I also think he's popular and an important part of the squad. If he got interest and wanted to go, I reckon £1.2-£1.5m or something. He's left footed, young and a full international so maybe more. 

How much do you think we'd want for him?

I think if he goes he goes for a lot more than that, especially with his contract situation, fact he is a full international with WC experience. All these things add money to any fee, especially if its from a league that has money to spend. 

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Leveins Battalion
1 hour ago, Chimp said:

Anyone know what's happened to Dhanda? Not been in the squad at all the the last while for Ross County. 


Still got no official confirmation he's signed for us either.

 

 

He was in the Directors Suite with Savage before the Derby.

 

 

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RustyRightPeg
13 minutes ago, PapaShango said:

I think if he goes he goes for a lot more than that, especially with his contract situation, fact he is a full international with WC experience. All these things add money to any fee, especially if its from a league that has money to spend. 

 

Could see him ending up in Belgium or Holland. Don't ask me why.

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johnking123

Josh Knight CB. Ex teammate of Kent would be good signing. Lose Sibbick and not sure how halkett is going to get on. Would be another solid CB. 

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28 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said:

 

 

He was in the Directors Suite with Savage before the Derby.

 

 

 

If that's true that'll do for me

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FionaHmfc

Definitely wouldn’t be a like for like replacement for Shankland (if he indeed goes) but I wonder if we’d make a move for Jonson Clarke-Harris from Peterborough. Out of contract in the summer, out of favour completely there too and his January moved to Charlton failed on personal terms. Think they had a agreed a fee of £500k for him in January but the move fell through. Would have been teammates with Frankie and Jorge Grant too so some familiar faces and the opportunity to play in Europe would surely tempt him too. 

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55 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

I think he is injured.

 

Yeah he was. Just had a quick look online and apparently he's just returned to the squad after picking up a knock. 

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Chuck Berry

I'd rather see us keep Shankland for next season than sell him, you can't adequately replace him without spending a considerable amount of money so just let him run down the contract whilst he continues scoring.

 

If he does goes off the boil, then maybe sell in the January window.

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RustyRightPeg
20 minutes ago, Chuck Berry said:

I'd rather see us keep Shankland for next season than sell him, you can't adequately replace him without spending a considerable amount of money so just let him run down the contract whilst he continues scoring.

 

If he does goes off the boil, then maybe sell in the January window.

 

Suppose the blessing is if we do sell, we're guaranteed big, big money. 

 

Aberdeen signed Miovski for less than £1M, so the bargains are there. 

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SM Sheffield
57 minutes ago, FionaHmfc said:

Definitely wouldn’t be a like for like replacement for Shankland (if he indeed goes) but I wonder if we’d make a move for Jonson Clarke-Harris from Peterborough. Out of contract in the summer, out of favour completely there too and his January moved to Charlton failed on personal terms. Think they had an agreed a fee of £500k for him in January but the move fell through. Would have been teammates with Frankie and Jorge Grant too so some familiar faces and the opportunity to play in Europe would surely tempt him too. 


Good player for sure but Devante Cole for me is the out of contract League 1 striker we should be looking at. Previous Scottish football experience at Motherwell he is scoring for fun at Barnsley and has been a key player there for the last two seasons. 

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Weonly151
4 minutes ago, SM Sheffield said:


Good player for sure but Devante Cole for me is the out of contract League 1 striker we should be looking at. Previous Scottish football experience at Motherwell he is scoring for fun at Barnsley and has been a key player there for the last two seasons. 

I mentioned Cole earlier I the thread. He's banging them in for Barnsley and what I can remember of him he was fairly fast. I wouldn't want him as a replacement for Shanks I'd want him along with Shanks and Vargas. I'm with the previous poster, I'd rather keep Shankland next season and lose him for nothing because no matter how much money we get, we aren't replacing him. Who knows what will happen after next season, he'll be nearly 30 and circumstances may change. 

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chrisyboy7
2 hours ago, cosanostra said:

 

Unsure tbh. I think he's replaceable but I also think he's popular and an important part of the squad. If he got interest and wanted to go, I reckon £1.2-£1.5m or something. He's left footed, young and a full international so maybe more. 

How much do you think we'd want for him?

Those figures are 25 years out of date

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Drylaw Hearts
1 hour ago, Chimp said:

 

If that's true that'll do for me


Naismith confirmed the Dhanda deal in a Press Conference weeks ago.

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4 hours ago, johnking123 said:

 1 Craig Gordon
 2 Zander Clark

 3 Harry Stone

 

 4 Nathaniel Atkinson
 5 Lewis Neilson
 6 Frankie Kent
 7 Craig Halkett
 8 Toby Sibbick   X
 9 Kye Rowles

 10 Stephen Kingsley

 11 Alex Cochrane  X

 

 12 Calem Nieuwenhof
 13 Cameron Devlin
 14 Macauley Tait
 15 Jorge Grant    X
 16 Callum Sandilands

 17 Finlay Pollock

 18 Aidan Denholm

 

 19 Barrie McKay
 20 Yutaro Oda

 21 Alan Forrest

 22 Yan dhanda

 

 23 Kyosuke Tagawa   X
 24 Liam Boyce
 25 Kenneth Vargas

 26 lawrence shankland   X

 

What the squad looks like next season if Beni does not sign. 

X is for players we could lose or move on.

 

Were we not rumoured to have signed Penrice from Livi and Phillips from St Johnstone on Pre contracts?

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Drylaw Hearts

I wouldn’t be crying myself to sleep if Atkinson, Devlin and Oda joined the departure queue.

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johnking123
11 minutes ago, Hansel said:

Were we not rumoured to have signed Penrice from Livi and Phillips from St Johnstone on Pre contracts?

Not really conformed. Dhanda is happening by sounds of it.

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jamboinglasgow
4 minutes ago, johnking123 said:

Not really conformed. Dhanda is happening by sounds of it.

 

I think the fact that all the papers have said he has signed a pre-contract and neither Hearts nor Ross County put a statement out saying that is not true means its pretty safe to say he has signed.

 

Penrice was that he is in talks, no mention yet of any agreement. Phillips was talk on here and from St Johnstone fans saying we are in talks. Again nothing confirmed.

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HopeDiouf
3 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

I think the fact that all the papers have said he has signed a pre-contract and neither Hearts nor Ross County put a statement out saying that is not true means its pretty safe to say he has signed.

 

Penrice was that he is in talks, no mention yet of any agreement. Phillips was talk on here and from St Johnstone fans saying we are in talks. Again nothing confirmed.

naismith confirmed the dhanda deal - just one comment but was confirmed.

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Steven Naismith admits Hearts Yan Dhanda early transfer rebuffed by Ross County as summer move confirmed - Football Scotland

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Lone Striker
2 hours ago, Chuck Berry said:

I'd rather see us keep Shankland for next season than sell him, you can't adequately replace him without spending a considerable amount of money so just let him run down the contract whilst he continues scoring.

 

If he does goes off the boil, then maybe sell in the January window.

I'm coming round to that view too. 

 

He's pretty much irreplaceable unless we gamble huge money on someone (who might not contribute the same number of goals as Shanks) so if he doesn't sign a new contract in the summer  we'd be as well to just get that final year from him.   It would give our recruitment team longer to monitor possible striker targets who are just starting to blossom this season.

 

Robbie signed Shanks at the perfect time - proved he could score well in the Championship with Dundee Utd, followed by a poor time in Belgium which kept his price within our range.

 

 

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