*** Aberdeen v Heart Of Midlothian Official Match Thread ***

[Pasquale for King]

42 minutes ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Away bk in july we had 6ft 5 centre bk on loan who cd attack a ball fair enough he wasnt answer but thts what we badly needed to compliment rowles and sibbick. We didnt bother then brought in hill but again not what we needed to similar to what we already had. We started season with forrest on wing mckay on wing shankland in middle. We now have forrest as a wing back or as sub, mckay as midfielder and shankland who he bummed up as 20 goal striker playing 10, cochrane has played centre bk and midfield when started as left back smith a right bk in midfield kio is slow snoddy who was nvr a holding midfielder in his career as holding player grant an atracking midfielder on bench or as holding midfield just add to many other attacking midfielders we bring in who end up as holding player olly lee and mcaneff to name another 2 so similar to  craig his mentor. 2 in middle does not work away from home or even at home now but he sticks with it. I am no hypocrite I have said for years tht he i Neilson brings in players from other clubs who look decent at first. By jan they become mediocre and once pressures on even in championship when we hit bad run he goes defensive.We start slow at home all best teams and some not as good ive,watched in 50 years would always try and start fast. U dont see other clubs at home come out slow even liedown sheep utd mwell hubz come flying out at start to get crowd onside we are so boring and slow at start. I dont think we hve had 2 halfs where we have been good in any game this season its either and if we do start well and score he sits bk and 60 mins same like fr like subs. I havent been fan off him even in first spell but he does get results although if you see where hobos and sheep ended up last season they were crap even bob cdnt muck it up but like everything things come to an end. Will we beat killie and hibs coming bk  I dont think so the fact in second half v hamilton we were struggling for 20 mins v worse team in their lge was warning sign. Wd it surprise me if we lost both no might get draw at fester cos its hubz. I said we wd finish 5th because of europe at start of season but then we opened up 11 point lead and sheep hibs imploding but both hve improved and we have got worse with tinkerman set ups and bob is now in as he put it his fav set up again since injuries. Keeping him is risk sacking him is risk. Would naismith be a better option hed defo kick arses if hes anything as coach like he was as player. But lacks experience, Martindale wd defo get more out these imposters and he spends as much time at our club on hospitality when not playing as he does at livvy. But he ll still be here come end of season if he gets 3rd well done but we are still crap to watch but yr a genius but realistically he shd with players in squad. If he doesn't we ve lost millions to the competition sheep or hubz. Tricky decision nxt few weeks fr budge and a loss to killie will really hve fans on his back. Crisis talks don't mke me laugh. How can we go to parkhead hve a go for once and play ok then cup game sit bk at home and do sfa. Today first half was like players had chucked it downed tools for manager, not playing fr him not interested slow possession,  playing from bk as if we are citeh but backwards backwards just press us and we are fkd very like his previous spell  when away from home if u attack flanks and hve 3 v our 2 in middle we struggle. Anyway he ll be here as we lack backbone under budge when managers are involved, he's her friend so we won't change till she retires, plus she ll be happy fr edinburgh and her brother if its hibs turn, might even give a nice wee speech, its only fitting for Hibs to pip us after their tragic loss. If we failed 3rd after we did change, it wd be why did we get rid, if he stays and fails 3rd its going to be why did we keep him its hard decision.

Great post

[Sherbet]

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

Go 442. Drop this 3 at the back nonsense. Square pegs in round holes. 
 

Drop Snodgrass. Everything goes through him and that slows us down and makes us so predictable.

 

Drop Hill just not at the races. 
 

Play Shankland where he needs to be played.

 

 

 

 

Agree re snodgrass. Was good when he first came, now ?. Would withdraw the contract offer

[Tom Hardy’s Dug]

I dont know. 
 

Our players are decent enough but it has still been, on balance, an underwhelming season for our new players.

 

Our model last season was EPL nearly ready/ young players.

 

This season it seemed to be championship and league one.

 

There is a lack of consistency in approach IMO - and I am not just saying this now I said it in the summer also.

 

We didn’t seem to be as ambitious this year for some reason.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Tom Hardy’s Dug

[pettigrewsstylist]

1 hour ago, periodictabledancer said:

Good post .

But in the end it boils down to two things for me -

The coaching staff are in total denial at what their eyes tell them.

They're in total denial at what their own post match stats tell them.

 

Neilson doesn't learn. 

Always learning. Thats what makes it ok.

[periodictabledancer]

1 minute ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Always learning. Thats what makes it ok.

Always learning ?

Learning what ? 

[pettigrewsstylist]

49 minutes ago, colinmorewasgash said:

Away bk in july we had 6ft 5 centre bk on loan who cd attack a ball fair enough he wasnt answer but thts what we badly needed to compliment rowles and sibbick. We didnt bother then brought in hill but again not what we needed to similar to what we already had. We started season with forrest on wing mckay on wing shankland in middle. We now have forrest as a wing back or as sub, mckay as midfielder and shankland who he bummed up as 20 goal striker playing 10, cochrane has played centre bk and midfield when started as left back smith a right bk in midfield kio is slow snoddy who was nvr a holding midfielder in his career as holding player grant an atracking midfielder on bench or as holding midfield just add to many other attacking midfielders we bring in who end up as holding player olly lee and mcaneff to name another 2 so similar to  craig his mentor. 2 in middle does not work away from home or even at home now but he sticks with it. I am no hypocrite I have said for years tht he i Neilson brings in players from other clubs who look decent at first. By jan they become mediocre and once pressures on even in championship when we hit bad run he goes defensive.We start slow at home all best teams and some not as good ive,watched in 50 years would always try and start fast. U dont see other clubs at home come out slow even liedown sheep utd mwell hubz come flying out at start to get crowd onside we are so boring and slow at start. I dont think we hve had 2 halfs where we have been good in any game this season its either and if we do start well and score he sits bk and 60 mins same like fr like subs. I havent been fan off him even in first spell but he does get results although if you see where hobos and sheep ended up last season they were crap even bob cdnt muck it up but like everything things come to an end. Will we beat killie and hibs coming bk  I dont think so the fact in second half v hamilton we were struggling for 20 mins v worse team in their lge was warning sign. Wd it surprise me if we lost both no might get draw at fester cos its hubz. I said we wd finish 5th because of europe at start of season but then we opened up 11 point lead and sheep hibs imploding but both hve improved and we have got worse with tinkerman set ups and bob is now in as he put it his fav set up again since injuries. Keeping him is risk sacking him is risk. Would naismith be a better option hed defo kick arses if hes anything as coach like he was as player. But lacks experience, Martindale wd defo get more out these imposters and he spends as much time at our club on hospitality when not playing as he does at livvy. But he ll still be here come end of season if he gets 3rd well done but we are still crap to watch but yr a genius but realistically he shd with players in squad. If he doesn't we ve lost millions to the competition sheep or hubz. Tricky decision nxt few weeks fr budge and a loss to killie will really hve fans on his back. Crisis talks don't mke me laugh. How can we go to parkhead hve a go for once and play ok then cup game sit bk at home and do sfa. Today first half was like players had chucked it downed tools for manager, not playing fr him not interested slow possession,  playing from bk as if we are citeh but backwards backwards just press us and we are fkd very like his previous spell  when away from home if u attack flanks and hve 3 v our 2 in middle we struggle. Anyway he ll be here as we lack backbone under budge when managers are involved, he's her friend so we won't change till she retires, plus she ll be happy fr edinburgh and her brother if its hibs turn, might even give a nice wee speech, its only fitting for Hibs to pip us after their tragic loss. If we failed 3rd after we did change, it wd be why did we get rid, if he stays and fails 3rd its going to be why did we keep him its hard decision.

Works on the magboard and both asst coaches grunted and smiled.

It baffling how its not working out.

Still, we are 3rd so no need for pampers yet.

Might grab a few if theyre on buy1 get 1 free tho.

[pettigrewsstylist]

2 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

Always learning ?

Learning what ? 

Learning about learning, so can improve the...stuff...theyve learned.

[Japan Jambo]

2 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

He looked thoroughly dejected today, and possibly thinks that the move back has cost him a chance to play for Scotland. RN said Shankland needs to keep scoring to get back into that squad, he would be within his rights to ask to play up front and the team to put some crosses in for him to do so.

 

Best striker we've had for a generation why we want to do a stupid thing like playing him in his best position? 

[periodictabledancer]

2 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Learning about learning, so can improve the...stuff...theyve learned.

 

[Gizmo]

2 hours ago, Holtie said:

I agree, plus you simply can’t rely on Gino because he doesn’t have a footballers brain!  He has improved, to be fair but couldn’t lace Shanks boots!! If you watch him carefully he does everything by numbers….I will run here because that’s what the coach wants me to do, rather than it be something he does through instinct! He’s fine as back up or as a late sub, otherwise…..!!

 

Harsh on Gino that and not accurate imo. But Shanks is the no 9 and should be played in that position. 

[IveSeenTheLight]

Thanks for all the well wishes.

 

Strange game today, not what I was expecting at all. I’ll take it though

Hearts just wasn’t in our faces as I had expected.

 

We needed that win to keep the slim hopes going, but time is running out.

[Luckies1874]

3 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Getting worse every week for some reason.

 

3 hours ago, Robbies Tackle said:

Hill should be sent home. 

 

Saw this on Twitter 

 

 

[Naisys Tackle]

2 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

 

Saw this on Twitter 

 

 

  

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

Thanks for all the well wishes.

 

Strange game today, not what I was expecting at all. I’ll take it though

Hearts just wasn’t in our faces as I had expected.

 

We needed that win to keep the slim hopes going, but time is running out.

We don’t really do that anymore, not big or physical, least foul’s committed in the league, can’t win a header anywhere on the pitch. 
The way we are going there’s plenty of time to catch us. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

6 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Yeah, sounds like they did well against their almost unbeatable parent club. 

 

A man sent off too; is that their first?

[Ricardo Quaresma]

7 hours ago, Gmcjambo said:

I don’t think there were too many players looking for the ball today, and the options in the middle seemed to be almost non existent at times.   Could see Cochrane showing his frustration that no one in the middle showed for him when he had the ball,  and he was hooked shortly after. 

 

Yes; the movement off the ball hasn't been good enough recently; I think Cochrane was taken off for a niggle

[No Idle Talk]

Disgusting. I have been sticking up for Robbie for a long time. No more. I'm pretty angry right now. Our away record is horrible. Sorry but the manager has to take responsibility for it. He's a shite manager away from home!

[Pasquale for King]

11 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

A man sent off too; is that their first?

Second at least, they got someone sent off against St Johnstone at ER. 

[Pasquale for King]

12 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

Yes; the movement off the ball hasn't been good enough recently; I think Cochrane was taken off for a niggle

Sounds like he was arguing with RN and was replaced, he sat straight down on the bench away from 

RN and didn’t acknowledge Kingsley.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Sounds like he was arguing with RN and was replaced, he sat straight down on the bench away from 

RN and didn’t acknowledge Kingsley.

 

I see

[Pasquale for King]

Just now, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

I see

Im actually with RN on that as Cochrane was being torn to pieces and was giving the ball away constantly. Not the first time he has shouted at the bench, saw him do that at home when we were changing from a 5 to a 4 and RN put four fingers up parallel to Cochrane and he obviously couldn’t see 🤦🏽. 

[No Idle Talk]

Disgrace of a result. Really pissed off with this. We've been crap for weeks now. Wake up!!!

[Pasquale for King]

Just now, No Idle Talk said:

Disgrace of a result. Really pissed off with this. We've been crap for weeks now. Wake up!!!

We all know he wont change a thing for the next game, the crosses will be raining down on us. 

[No Idle Talk]

Just now, Pasquale for King said:

We all know he wont change a thing for the next game, the crosses will be raining down on us. 

 

I didn't see today's game. Please tell me it wasn't 3-4-3 again?

[Ricardo Quaresma]

2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Im actually with RN on that as Cochrane was being torn to pieces and was giving the ball away constantly. Not the first time he has shouted at the bench, saw him do that at home when we were changing from a 5 to a 4 and RN put four fingers up parallel to Cochrane and he obviously couldn’t see 🤦🏽. 

 

Well, seems some of the players aren't happy with shape and player selection

 

What's definitely true is there was some really daft attempts to pass the ball yesterday borne out of panic, it seemed

 

Confidence is low and we have to yank the iron out of the fire

 

Next fixtures: 

 

Us away to killie

the wee team at home to 'well

the sheep away to the perth fermers

 

We have to put the break to good use, all the available players being fit would be good and scudding killie would be sound

 

I seriously doubt that the management team will be going anywhere before the end of the season and if we let any other team overtake us, it won't just be the management that will be blamed, it'll be everyone and the question will be "Who's worth keeping?"

[Pasquale for King]

14 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said:

 

I didn't see today's game. Please tell me it wasn't 3-4-3 again?

No It was 532 with Snodgrass and McKay flanking Kio in midfield, 5 minutes into the game they scored, two after 20 minutes and he changed to 433

Edited March 19, 2023 by Pasquale for King

[No Idle Talk]

1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

No It was 532 with Snodgrass and McKay flanking Kio in midfield, 5 minutes into the game they scored, two after 20 minutes and he changed to 433

 

Disgusting. This Snodgrass thing is a problem.

[Pasquale for King]

6 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

Well, seems some of the players aren't happy with shape and player selection

 

What's definitely true is there was some really daft attempts to pass the ball yesterday borne out of panic, it seemed

 

Confidence is low and we have to yank the iron out of the fire

 

Next fixtures: 

 

Us away to killie

the wee team at home to 'well

the sheep away to the perth fermers

 

We have to put the break to good use, all the available players being fit would be good and scudding killie would be sound

 

I seriously doubt that the management team will be going anywhere before the end of the season and if we let any other team overtake us, it won't just be the management that will be blamed, it'll be everyone and the question will be "Who's worth keeping?"

You cant blame them as they are even more likely to know that the system doesn’t work and he criticises them publicly when his tactics fail again. 
Yeah cant see him going before the summer. 

[Pasquale for King]

1 minute ago, No Idle Talk said:

 

Disgusting. This Snodgrass thing is a problem.

Yeah he looked his age today, was really dejected. 

[No Idle Talk]

4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Yeah he looked his age today, was really dejected. 

 

Problem is bud, Snodgrass is a good player. We just aint setting the team up right to get the max out of him. I don't understand how Robbie can't see it.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

You cant blame them as they are even more likely to know that the system doesn’t work and he criticises them publicly when his tactics fail again. 
Yeah cant see him going before the summer. 

 

I don't blame them that much, but they still know how to play better and they gave the ball away cheaply many times

 

McKay needs to come on as sub, I reckon, Forrest was on it today and looks ready for a start on left wing; only lost the ball once when he was ganged upon

[ri Alban]

1 hour ago, No Idle Talk said:

 

Problem is bud, Snodgrass is a good player. We just aint setting the team up right to get the max out of him. I don't understand how Robbie can't see it.

Bollox. The fat feck thinks he's good, he's as slow as a week in the jail. In fact, he's the cause of our problem. Robbie needs to tell him to bolt.

[Penry Smith]

12 hours ago, Hearts007 said:

Sad sacks

Utter *****!!

[Deevers]

17 hours ago, glynnlondon said:

Budge ain't shifting her pet

I’m not so sure - she got burned by not ditching Levein when it became obvious that he was not cutting it.  I don’t think she’ll make the same mistake twice. Two dreadful results and two performances from the players that were totally unacceptable.  The buck stops with Robbie imo.

[Pasquale for King]

8 hours ago, No Idle Talk said:

 

Problem is bud, Snodgrass is a good player. We just aint setting the team up right to get the max out of him. I don't understand how Robbie can't see it.

He moved him slightly further forward yesterday and It didn’t work, not sure what the answer to that is really. 

[Pasquale for King]

8 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

I don't blame them that much, but they still know how to play better and they gave the ball away cheaply many times

 

McKay needs to come on as sub, I reckon, Forrest was on it today and looks ready for a start on left wing; only lost the ball once when he was ganged upon

Yeah he did ok, you know what you’re getting with him. 

[Pasquale for King]

13 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Best striker we've had for a generation why we want to do a stupid thing like playing him in his best position? 

Crazy talk, play him in somewhere he can that rolled hand movement 🤦🏽. Can you imagine any other manager doing this 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️?

[DS98]

Aberdeen are ****ing rotten and they embarrassed us yesterday. 
 

Duk, who looked like he couldn’t kick his own arse embarrassed our defenders. 
 

Shinnie who is limited beyond belief absolutely bossed our midfield 

 

Barry Robson, a rookie manager with about 6 games to his names absolutely took our manager to the cleaners. 
 

Robbie (and the players) had better stop believing their own hype. We’re nowhere near good enough to rock up to the likes of Pittodrie and swan about without putting in the hard yards first. 
 

Get back to basics ffs before this season turns into a disaster.

[LochcarronJambo]

Absolutely not one good performance from any of the Hearts team yesterday with once again a very poor set up & stand off tactics…. If neilson persists with this we are going to really struggle to hold onto third

[Rods]

Snodgrass and Smith looked their age in the game. Hill, McKay played poorly and Shankland was out of position. 
 

A lot of passengers and a formation set up to be overrun. 

[1971fozzy]

14 hours ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

Thanks for all the well wishes.

 

Strange game today, not what I was expecting at all. I’ll take it though

Hearts just wasn’t in our faces as I had expected.

 

We needed that win to keep the slim hopes going, but time is running out.

hope your on the mend and all went well.

 

[Bongo 1874]

14 hours ago, IveSeenTheLight said:

Thanks for all the well wishes.

 

Strange game today, not what I was expecting at all. I’ll take it though

Hearts just wasn’t in our faces as I had expected.

 

We needed that win to keep the slim hopes going, but time is running out.

We got exactly what we deserved, which was centre of a doughnut.

 

When you can't do the basics correct ,you are in serious trouble, tracking back basic.

 

Then The manager's setup do me a favour.

 

 

[Independence]

22 hours ago, theshed said:

I can see with my own eyes the players don’t give a shit 

Well your 'seethe' should also be directed at very well paid players not just the manager!

[upgotheheads]

 

8 minutes ago, Independence said:

Well your 'seethe' should also be directed at very well paid players not just the manager!

 

But it does beg the question why the have downed tools. It could be that not fielding a settled team and   dropping players after they've had a good game while coming up with random selections is confusing them.

[Penry Smith]

My post has vanished! I was only saying that those fans at union  square with the tory British flag with abhorrent bojo & Cameron on it was abhorrent  I know we have a lot of unoinist fans but it's putrid!! Given how evil the torys are!! 

[Jambo na hÉireann]

On 18/03/2023 at 20:54, Robbies Tackle said:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrgwZj7XsAABR04?format=jpg&name=medium

 

Just saw this on Facebook.

 

For what it’s worth - 

 

Take a UJ to the game. Fine. Not my cup of tea, but it’s a free country.

 

Show your support for the tories. Fine. They’ve destroyed the country, but it’s still a free one.

 

But putting David Cameron’s face on the flag?! **** sake. Now that’s incel behaviour right there. Proper weirdos. 

[Ex member of the SaS]

What I can't get my head around is people saying Aberdeen is a hard place to go or St J has always been our bogey team. FFS we have the best squad in years and are miles ahead of the rest yet we look back saying teams from years ago couldn't get a win there?

It's like saying I crashed the car in Peebles once so never going back there.

Look at the other teams in this league and ask yourself who would get a game for us? One two at a push three players in each team COULD maybe get a game with our squad so why are we claiming it's hard to get a win there?

Edited March 21, 2023 by Ex member of the SaS

[GinRummy]

Just now, Ex member of the SaS said:

What I can't get my head around is people saying Aberdeen is a hard place to go or St J has always been our bogey team. FFS we have the best squad in years and are miles ahead of the rest yet we look back saying teams from years ago couldn't get a win there?

It's like saying I crashed the car in Peebles once so never going back there.

Look at the other teams in this league and ask yourself who would get a game for us? One two at a push three players in each team COULD maybe get a game with our squad so why are we claiming it's hard to get a win there?

Some folk will only say we have the best squad in years after we’ve won. When we lose the excuses come flying out and that’s ignored. That’s how simple it is. 

[Ex member of the SaS]

Just now, GinRummy said:

Some folk will only say we have the best squad in years after we’ve won. When we lose the excuses come flying out and that’s ignored. That’s how simple it is. 

Even after a loss we still have the best team, we won't win every game but what I will never support is a team playing like we did against the Sheep and Motherwell, Professional players who can see the manager has lost it should be taking things into their own hands on the pitch and playing better than this, Sticking rigidly to the manager's game plan is making them look like monkey's.

[Sherbet]

3 hours ago, Jambo na hÉireann said:

Just saw this on Facebook.

 

For what it’s worth - 

 

Take a UJ to the game. Fine. Not my cup of tea, but it’s a free country.

 

Show your support for the tories. Fine. They’ve destroyed the country, but it’s still a free one.

 

But putting David Cameron’s face on the flag?! **** sake. Now that’s incel behaviour right there. Proper weirdos. 

The guys with the flag were at the windup.  Obviously worked with the hard of thinking on here