Rods Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, soonbe110 said: Is Smith def out? I just assumed. I am hoping not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) After the state of our last two performances, we really need to step it up. We should be expecting nothing less than a comfortable win, against a team bottom of the league. Edited February 4, 2023 by OmiyaHearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacerjoe Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Good post, you have to wonder why hes been played as an 8 a few times recently? I think Neilson is trying to get someone as technically good on the ball nearer to Snodgrass who is getting targeted by the opposition press. I don't think it suits McKay as, ironically, his instinct is to just play or run forwards and quite often hits a brick wall in front of him. Snodgrass is playing two or three passes ahead. He knows you sometimes have to go around rather than through. I think McKay lives more in the moment. It's a different footballing brain I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Bit of wind and rain today it looks like. Could get tough but we'll win it by a goal or two. Come on Hearts! 11 players and some subs. Lets get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: I think he closes down and chases back more than enough. Just as much as guys like Gino for example, probably more. Going in for challenges was more in reference to the arse next to me. I think Gino chases along the defensive line more than McKay however he does have more pace and can be guilty of not always tracking back. But as I said McKay for me doesn't close down opposition wide right players quickly enough. Maybe he is doing what he is told of course but from my perspective I would like to see him work a bit harder in that area. After all he hardly ever plays a full game before being subbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, spacerjoe said: I think Neilson is trying to get someone as technically good on the ball nearer to Snodgrass who is getting targeted by the opposition press. I don't think it suits McKay as, ironically, his instinct is to just play or run forwards and quite often hits a brick wall in front of him. Snodgrass is playing two or three passes ahead. He knows you sometimes have to go around rather than through. I think McKay lives more in the moment. It's a different footballing brain I guess. Very true. I think McKay doesn't really know what he is going to do next whereas Snodgrass does but sometimes his team-mates don't help him with their lack of movement to take the passes he wants to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: They let themselves down in that game. Hopefully 3 points and a good performance, but "owe", imo folk are way to precious. We could debate the symbiotic relationship between a football team and it's fans but maybe some other time. My breakfast is cooking. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, No Idle Talk said: We could debate the symbiotic relationship between a football team and it's fans but maybe some other time. My breakfast is cooking. 🙂 It's lunchtime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, wavydavy said: I think Gino chases along the defensive line more than McKay however he does have more pace and can be guilty of not always tracking back. But as I said McKay for me doesn't close down opposition wide right players quickly enough. Maybe he is doing what he is told of course but from my perspective I would like to see him work a bit harder in that area. After all he hardly ever plays a full game before being subbed. I'd like to see the distance ran and where McKay sits in comparison to the squad. Imo he doe as much back tracking and work as anybody else in his position. I can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, No Idle Talk said: Well said. I would begin that run of games today. 👍 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: The middle aged Scottish football fan really can be hilarious sometimes, there is an absolute slaver of a man, about 55-60 who screams at Mckay for trying " poofy wee flicks " 1 hour ago, spacerjoe said: Against Celtic in the 3-4 game, he was a great creative outlet cutting in from the left. He linked with Snodgrass and Devlin brilliantly. It seemed to go unnoticed though as people were only looking for errors... He was very good in that game 45 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: They let themselves down in that game. You could've stated this the first time. tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I'm feeling a wee bit flat today. Bit entitled maybe . Hope the team cheers me up . I really hope the players are not going to sulk. That our job. Let's give this sorry excuse of a mob a hiding please. And back to being solid at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 So, any news of what this 'bug' was, or still is? Was it there before ER, or did we catch something from those stinkpots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 🥸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrystaf Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, spacerjoe said: I think Neilson is trying to get someone as technically good on the ball nearer to Snodgrass who is getting targeted by the opposition press. I don't think it suits McKay as, ironically, his instinct is to just play or run forwards and quite often hits a brick wall in front of him. Snodgrass is playing two or three passes ahead. He knows you sometimes have to go around rather than through. I think McKay lives more in the moment. It's a different footballing brain I guess. 100% agree. Good post. Snoddy needs someone like Cammy to back him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, davemclaren said: 🥸 I better make it a double dram today. Edited February 4, 2023 by HMFC01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: So, any news of what this 'bug' was, or still is? Was it there before ER, or did we catch something from those stinkpots? A dose of being shit seems the likely bug picked up from Easter Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, Ked said: A dose of being shit seems the likely bug picked up from Easter Road. Certainly looks that way, especially the timing of the 'bug' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, davemclaren said: 🥸 uh oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornhillHearts Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just a wee heads up for those who sit in the lower parts of the Tynecastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub4TiddlerMurray Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Sooks said: I do not think McKay tries any less in big games , I just think it is a simple matter of the moves he attempts being against better players so they do not come off as regularly . I think we as fans have a tendency to over think these things and I definitely do not think he hides either I think there's a confidence issue as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ked said: I'm feeling a wee bit flat today. Bit entitled maybe . Hope the team cheers me up . I really hope the players are not going to sulk. That our job. Let's give this sorry excuse of a mob a hiding please. And back to being solid at the back. 4-0 Easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, spacerjoe said: I think Neilson is trying to get someone as technically good on the ball nearer to Snodgrass who is getting targeted by the opposition press. I don't think it suits McKay as, ironically, his instinct is to just play or run forwards and quite often hits a brick wall in front of him. Snodgrass is playing two or three passes ahead. He knows you sometimes have to go around rather than through. I think McKay lives more in the moment. It's a different footballing brain I guess. Spot on, why not play Grant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTS1874 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Hopefully we’ll bounce back with a good performance today. I’ll go for 3-1 (Shankland 2 and Gino) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said: Yeah. These types are clueless tho. Usually overweight, middle aged men that are angry with life. Usually red in face and foaming. Speaking as one of the above (slightly older) the most keech I hear is from twenty something, middle class ******s who do a running commentary/analysis of the game when they know fekkbuggerall about football . Mind you I have a middle-aged , depressive behind me who sucks the life out of every game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors1874 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Need to ditch this 3-4-3 system and play a 4-2-3-1 or good old 4-4-2. Clark Smith/Atkinson if Smith not fit. Cochrane Sibbick Rowles Snodgrass Devlin/kio if not fit. Gino McKay Shankland Kuol. Just go for it none of this negative passes back to the back 4 or gk and get it wide and have their defence on the back foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Agree with change of system 3-4-3 is quite often 5-2-3 with the midfield getting over run, no helping either the defence or attack. McKay and Ginnley are next to useless when we dont have the ball and don't help the midfield out. Change shape and bring in an extra body into midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, MTS1874 said: Hopefully we’ll bounce back with a good performance today. I’ll go for 3-1 (Shankland 2 and Gino) It'll never be that. I have 3-1 Hearts on my score predictor and I am putting a wee wager on Ginnelly(if he starts) to score. So that's that sunk. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, john thomas said: Speaking as one of the above (slightly older) the most keech I hear is from twenty something, middle class ******s who do a running commentary/analysis of the game when they know fekkbuggerall about football . Mind you I have a middle-aged , depressive behind me who sucks the life out of every game Aye, they're annoying, but the ones I described shouting "punt it","get it forward" and shouting abuse at our own are just the pits. They should **** off and make room for someone else tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: 🥸 Bob is the curse buster..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Ked said: I'm feeling a wee bit flat today. Bit entitled maybe . Hope the team cheers me up . I really hope the players are not going to sulk. That our job. Let's give this sorry excuse of a mob a hiding please. And back to being solid at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corstorphine Jambo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 It seems unlikely we will change from a back 3. In any event, personally I’d want Snodgrass, Grant and one more in the middle. I think Devlin would compliment that pair best. We need to get that midfield ticking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Agree with change of system 3-4-3 is quite often 5-2-3 with the midfield getting over run, no helping either the defence or attack. McKay and Ginnley are next to useless when we dont have the ball and don't help the midfield out. Change shape and bring in an extra body into midfield Need to revert to our standard and successful 3-4-3 IMO. At Livi we switched to long ball due to the pitch and then gambled on a completely different set up on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jambopilms said: Agree with change of system 3-4-3 is quite often 5-2-3 with the midfield getting over run, no helping either the defence or attack. McKay and Ginnley are next to useless when we dont have the ball and don't help the midfield out. Change shape and bring in an extra body into midfield I agree with you. You only fully see what is happening with the formation when you are actually at the game. It's harder to see it on the TV. At the home game against Fiorentina I had a really good seat right at the half way line so I could get a good look at everything that was going on. The two central midfielders were left horribly exposed the whole night. They were essentially left to cover the whole midfield themselves. I already had reservations in my mind about 3-4-3 but after seeing it that night I was done with it. I would like to see us play with a back four because I just don't believe we have a natural wing back in our squad. Smith doesn't have the legs, Atkinson doesn't do the defensive side well enough, Cochrane and Kingsley are better full backs than wing backs. Robbie seems pretty married to his 3-4-3 though so we may not get a change of system for a wee while yet. Edited February 4, 2023 by No Idle Talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEHEART1874 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2-0 hearts if we keep fletcher quiet with hopefully no more injuries and leg breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacerjoe Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Spot on, why not play Grant? Who knows! I would have had Grant in the starting lineup for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japanjambo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Come on The Heart Of Midlothian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Goalscoring Knee Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Please don’t announce a weird team, please don’t announce a weird team… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Come on the Hears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Happy with that in the absence of Devlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Please don’t announce a weird team, please don’t announce a weird team… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Forrest at wing back. Kingsley at wing back. Halliday midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, davemclaren said: 🥸 Ffs wish I'd seen this before I jumped on the train... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Really hoping that’s Kingsley at LWB and Halliday in midfield.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost in space Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 McKay NEEDS to play well or fans are going to have a go at him. Who is playing RB???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Sure to **** that’s a back 4 🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 No idea what that is - will be a surprise come 16:00 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, The Goalscoring Knee said: Clark Hill Sibbick Rowles Forrest Snoddy Halliday Kingsley Shanks McKay Gino I'm sure Forrest will be more advanced and Kingsley will be deeper making it more of a 4-4-2 at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS98 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Good to see Forrest given another chance from the start at rwb. The Halliday/Snodgrass midfield combo is ****ing horrendous though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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