Cruyff Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Shankland McKay Ginnelly Cochrane Grant Devlin Atkinson Kingsley Neilson Smith Gordon 2-1 Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Quaresma Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: They are 2-0 up now, 2 of their top 3 scorers have scored; the other, he's their top scorer with 14 in 28 games, Ilic, went off at HT Scrub that About Ilic coming off, he came on at HT, just scored their 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Based on? Shame if true, let's hope he doesn't become an injury liability - is this the same injury that kept him out last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Neilson says he is 50/50. I also got told Forrest was seen at the hospital on Thu night with a moonboot and crutches so doubt he is 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: Neilson says he is 50/50. I also got told Forrest was seen at the hospital on Thu night with a moonboot and crutches so doubt he is 50/50. It’s getting to the stage every time one of our players gets tackled or tackles I worry 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I'm really not bothered already about this competition, you could feel the apathy at Tynecastle on Thursday, wonder why we even bothered qualifying. Anyone in doubt we keep them for the league game on Sunday. The real disappointment players coming in are not taking their chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm really not bothered already about this competition, you could feel the apathy at Tynecastle on Thursday, wonder why we even bothered qualifying. Anyone in doubt we keep them for the league game on Sunday. The real disappointment players coming in are not taking their chance We qualified as that was reward for coming third and getting to the cup final. The money earned is a nice bonus as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 I would imagine they are quite confident which concerns me. Hopefully Kio can play and maybe get Sibbick or Neilson in as it sounds like they have a team full of 6ft plus players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Think this is going to be another night where we struggle to get anything. If Halkett is out or not 100% to play 90 minutes going by Neilson's comment then it will be a tough match as we are so ill equipped to be tight at the back without him. Our defence has been a shambles most of the season. Really could do with a confidence booster ahead of Motherwell as no doubt that's going to be another slog at a venue where we have had horror shows at over the last few seasons. The period we are going through feels familiar to how we performed at the turn of the year. It's about grinding out a couple of positive results to turn it around again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott980612 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On holiday for this one - so be iPad and San Miguel’s on the balcony No idea what to expect They looked absolutely horrific borderline comical vs linfield , yet despite the stats fought out a draw in Florence 2-2 in an entertaining game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm really not bothered already about this competition, you could feel the apathy at Tynecastle on Thursday, wonder why we even bothered qualifying. Anyone in doubt we keep them for the league game on Sunday. The real disappointment players coming in are not taking their chance So are we better finishing 5th in the League so we don’t qualify?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J80MBO Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 The chat has been Halkett I had been "touch and go" for what feels like weeks... In a month's time will probably be the same knowing hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stendelnator said: Looks like Halkett isn’t going to make it… again… Quelle surprise. You can all tell me to **** off but something like Zone 7 would sort this shitfest out - and I am not on a retainer but I know and trust the people involved. Players continually breaking down doesnt happen under the monitoring they do. And we, stupid arseholes that we are, turned it down. Because we thought our useless science arseholes that keep allowing players getting injured knew best. Edited September 12, 2022 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Quelle surprise. You can all tell me to **** off but something like Zone 7 would sort this shitfest out - and I am not on a retainer but I know and trust the people involved. Players continually breaking down doesnt happen under the monitoring they do. And we, stupid arseholes that we are, turned it down. Because we thought our useless science arseholes that keep allowing players getting injured knew best. We don't have players continually breaking down though. Beni and Boyce are cruciate injuries, Rowles has broken his foot. The injuries aren't to do with conditioning. Even Halkett he ****ed his hamstring by overstretching, it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Sherbet said: With robbie we are still waiting so due one? I figure it's kind of a one-in-twenty kind of thing, so probably not given that we've played a total of 3 European games since being promoted again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: We don't have players continually breaking down though. Beni and Boyce are cruciate injuries, Rowles has broken his foot. The injuries aren't to do with conditioning. Even Halkett he ****ed his hamstring by overstretching, it happens. It's been going on for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 What's with all the renewed halkett doubts? The club just posted a video clip of him busting out a few shuttles and looking fit. Should make it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loblaw Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: It's been going on for years now. Its nowhere near the same situation as Levein's era. We lost 3 players against St Johnstone, none due to conditioning. Same when we lost 4 to United last season. Sometimes you're just unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolflins Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just can’t see Hearts getting anything , hope I’m wrong but we are so poor at the moment it’s depressing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Loblaw said: Its nowhere near the same situation as Levein's era. We lost 3 players against St Johnstone, none due to conditioning. Same when we lost 4 to United last season. Sometimes you're just unlucky. Halkett, Souttar, Smith and Haring all broke down coming back from injuries last season off the top of my head. It's nowhere near as bad no, but it's still pretty consistent. Its gotten to the stage now when a player gets injured and nearly clear to come back then it's completely guesswork as to when they will actually play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, periodictabledancer said: Edit - from the official USA website WHO SHOULD APPLY? You are a citizen or eligible national of a Visa Waiver Program country. You are currently not in possession of a visitor's visa. Your travel is for 90 days or less. You plan to travel to the United States for business or pleasure. You want to apply for a new authorization for one person or a group of applications for two or more persons Are we playing this game in the you esss of ehhh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm really not bothered already about this competition, you could feel the apathy at Tynecastle on Thursday, wonder why we even bothered qualifying. Anyone in doubt we keep them for the league game on Sunday. The real disappointment players coming in are not taking their chance There's £4/500k at stake just for winning on Thursday. The two games v RFS are huge for this reason. This competition is also what last season's efforts were all about. The transfer window showed us that just getting there in itself is not the financial game changer some people thought. Even in the likely event we don't qualify, we need to be at our best to try and scrape as much cash and as many coefficient points as we can to give us something to build on. Even from a "the league is more important" point of view, putting in a half-arsed Conference League campaign could put a dampener on the whole season hardly provides the motivation to finish third again. If Halkett's hamstring is in doubt I wouldn't risk him for either game considering the international break is coming up. That said, I'd be less keen to risk it in one of our 33 remaining league games than I would in a European game with potentially much more far-reaching consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Basaksehir 1-0 up away to Besiktas. Safe to say we met a very solid side last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Jambo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Really not sure what to expect from this, just hope we play with some cohesion this time. As people have said it’s hard to gauge how good/bad this mob actually are. Although to be honest if we were playing Linfield I wouldn’t be sure who Would be favourites either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, DC_92 said: There's £4/500k at stake just for winning on Thursday. The two games v RFS are huge for this reason. This competition is also what last season's efforts were all about. The transfer window showed us that just getting there in itself is not the financial game changer some people thought. Even in the likely event we don't qualify, we need to be at our best to try and scrape as much cash and as many coefficient points as we can to give us something to build on. Even from a "the league is more important" point of view, putting in a half-arsed Conference League campaign could put a dampener on the whole season hardly provides the motivation to finish third again. If Halkett's hamstring is in doubt I wouldn't risk him for either game considering the international break is coming up. That said, I'd be less keen to risk it in one of our 33 remaining league games than I would in a European game with potentially much more far-reaching consequences. Agree fully. I'm okay with us de-prioritizing the competition, but we should at least put out our best side against RFS and try to get some European wins just for the experience. If we play a B side and park the bus in Florence and Istanbul, I can live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Jeff said: Basaksehir 1-0 up away to Besiktas. Safe to say we met a very solid side last week 7 added minutes. So much shithousery I think it will be closer to 10! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob Loblaw said: We don't have players continually breaking down though. Beni and Boyce are cruciate injuries, Rowles has broken his foot. The injuries aren't to do with conditioning. Even Halkett he ****ed his hamstring by overstretching, it happens. Boyle - injured and out of games twice this year. Halkett ditto Cammy Ditto Kinglsey ditto Halliday - injured on and off permanently Alan Forest now injured (first time) Grant injured once also Atkinson injured once We are tin pot when it comes to Injuries - nobody has the injuries we have had the last 3 out of 4 seasons. Our sport science team isn’t fit for purpose. Any other business they’d have been sacked. But I’m sure they’re all one of the boys deep down though and they are a good laugh and good for the dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stendelnator Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, davemclaren said: Based on? Based on Neilson saying he isn’t sure Halkett will be fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Boyle - injured and out of games twice this year. Halkett ditto Cammy Ditto Kinglsey ditto Halliday - injured on and off permanently Alan Forest now injured (first time) Grant injured once also Atkinson injured once We are tin pot when it comes to Injuries - nobody has the injuries we have had the last 3 out of 4 seasons. Our sport science team isn’t fit for purpose. Any other business they’d have been sacked. But I’m sure they’re all one of the boys deep down though and they are a good laugh and good for the dressing room. As you seem to be some sort of expert, can you tell us how many of these injuries are down to poor fitness levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulleted_jambo Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 9 hours ago, NB GIN said: We are finishing bottom regardless opened my eyes that Turkish team To be fair they were top seeds in the group and will be the best team by far. Who knows with the rest. Fiorentina - struggling in a good league. Hardly scoring any goals. RFS - doing well in a crap league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Stendelnator said: Based on Neilson saying he isn’t sure Halkett will be fit Okdoky. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: As you seem to be some sort of expert, can you tell us how many of these injuries are down to poor fitness levels I’m not an expert. I just know people who are. Do some research - not my job to teach. As an aside your favourite team is signed up so you should be on board Edited September 12, 2022 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Boyle - injured and out of games twice this year. Halkett ditto Cammy Ditto Kinglsey ditto Halliday - injured on and off permanently Alan Forest now injured (first time) Grant injured once also Atkinson injured once We are tin pot when it comes to Injuries - nobody has the injuries we have had the last 3 out of 4 seasons. Our sport science team isn’t fit for purpose. Any other business they’d have been sacked. But I’m sure they’re all one of the boys deep down though and they are a good laugh and good for the dressing room. Making a noise, just for the sake of making a noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Riga 19/10 Draw 12/5 HMFC 11/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DC_92 said: There's £4/500k at stake just for winning on Thursday. The two games v RFS are huge for this reason. This competition is also what last season's efforts were all about. The transfer window showed us that just getting there in itself is not the financial game changer some people thought. Even in the likely event we don't qualify, we need to be at our best to try and scrape as much cash and as many coefficient points as we can to give us something to build on. Even from a "the league is more important" point of view, putting in a half-arsed Conference League campaign could put a dampener on the whole season hardly provides the motivation to finish third again. If Halkett's hamstring is in doubt I wouldn't risk him for either game considering the international break is coming up. That said, I'd be less keen to risk it in one of our 33 remaining league games than I would in a European game with potentially much more far-reaching consequences. Aye maybe just having a Monday moment, that said can't say I'm excited about Thursday which is a pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Making a noise, just for the sake of making a noise. Something not right far too many injuries been going on for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewiseone Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 A point will be a good result but my head suggests theyll score more than us , which means we' ll lose ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky jamboa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Aye maybe just having a Monday moment, that said can't say I'm excited about Thursday which is a pity. I'm feeling the same. Was so looking forward to this season and playing in europe but it's been a bit of a damp squib so far. We could do with a morale boosting win in this one to kick-start our season and European campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: I'm really not bothered already about this competition, you could feel the apathy at Tynecastle on Thursday, wonder why we even bothered qualifying. Anyone in doubt we keep them for the league game on Sunday. The real disappointment players coming in are not taking their chance Which ones ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Kirky Jambo said: Really not sure what to expect from this, just hope we play with some cohesion this time. As people have said it’s hard to gauge how good/bad this mob actually are. Although to be honest if we were playing Linfield I wouldn’t be sure who Would be favourites either. We will need to score 2 to get anything IMO. Seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longmalx Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 13 hours ago, Jeff said: Basaksehir 1-0 up away to Besiktas. Safe to say we met a very solid side last week Looking at their team sheet it’s clear they rested half the team against us. Fingers crossed they do the same in Istanbul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I’m not an expert. I just know people who are. Do some research - not my job to teach. As an aside your favourite team is signed up so you should be on board It was a simple question. I just assumed you had the figures to hand to back up your statement. I have no idea what you're talking about in that last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Stendelnator said: Looks like Halkett isn’t going to make it… again… Halkett will play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Gordon Neilson Halkett Kingsley Atkinson Devlin Grant Cochrane Gino Shank McKay Somewhere between prediction and hope. I think he'll play 3 at back whereas I'd be tempted to go 442 with Shankland and Humphrys. Think he'll be tempted to play Haring for height but I'd stick with movement and play around them if we can. Neilson in gives us more aerial power than Smith, I'd suggest better passing too - wouldn't mind if it was Sibbick My only real tossup in the 343 was Gino or Humphrys.. Shanks looks isolated often and he's not quick enough to be up there alone. We need to be getting the ball to him in the box not using him for outballs. Halkett will be back I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Looking forward to Thursday. This is what last season was all about. It's easy to get up for games when things are going well but in a strange way my support for the team always tightens when we are going through a bad spell. While I twiddled my thumbs bored out my skull at the weekend I realised how empty life is without football. I am thinking 2-2 for this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Jeff said: Basaksehir 1-0 up away to Besiktas. Safe to say we met a very solid side last week Besiktas obviously didn't press high enough and get in their faces. Almost as if Basaksehir are a decent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, Malinga the Swinga said: Besiktas obviously didn't press high enough and get in their faces. Almost as if Basaksehir are a decent team. I felt when we played Basaksehir it was pretty unfair to be honest. They look like they practice and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 According to Bandersons latest piece they are all over 6 foot and physical. Can see them just waltzing though our non existent defence much like the last game, scoring from a set piece or two and giving us no time to settle on the ball. Could be a bad night (again) especially with the injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, jambopilms said: According to Bandersons latest piece they are all over 6 foot and physical. Can see them just waltzing though our non existent defence much like the last game, scoring from a set piece or two and giving us no time to settle on the ball. Could be a bad night (again) especially with the injuries. Ach it depends. So are St Johnstone, (or whatever) if you know what I mean? Teams can make up for height by being good. We need better movement and to move the ball quicker than we tried to against Basaksehir (albeit that was hard cos they were so good). Extreme, but Man City were always OK when they played Burnley. We need to be a wee bit better at getting on with what we're good at. We perhaps need to work out what we're good at first to be fair!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Mental to think we get more “prize” money for beating Riga twice than we would had we beat the Huns in the cup final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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