Victorian Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Starmer has been pretty useless in offering a vision. But Labour was criticised previously for having too many policies. With 2 years till an election there is plenty time to put together their policies and a coordinated plan. As it happens if you want to know Labour's economic plan look at Sunak's. Sometimes when Starmer is speaking, he actually spends as much time not speaking as speaking. Too ponderous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Leftie Shadow Transport Minister on tv on picket line saying all Labour mps should be - vote loser hopefully Chance for Starmer to get rid of yet another Corbyn supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Who can the grey suits, the money men and the ERG control more easily, Truss or Sunak? Truss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Dawnrazor said: I think Truss would be worse that Joh son, like him or loathe him he did have charisma and public appeal, she has neither and doesn't seem particularly intelligent, I didn't like Corbyn but at least the man believed in his principles, I can't say Starmer has any beliefs and is less charismatic than Truss. I don't think that is fair or accurate. She is pretty wooden though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I don't think that is fair or accurate. She is pretty wooden though. You think Liz truss seems particularly intelligent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: You think Liz truss seems particularly intelligent? Its all relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: I don't think that is fair or accurate. She is pretty wooden though. Aye, fair enough, doesn't seem to be a quick thinker may be a better way of putting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: Labour won the last blue collar byelection in Wakefield. Yep, but lost how many traditionally Labour working class seats in the last election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said: Aye, fair enough, doesn't seem to be a quick thinker may be a better way of putting it. I don't think it's at all unfair to say she doesn't seem particularly intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Smithee said: I don't think it's at all unfair to say she doesn't seem particularly intelligent. In fairness she has regularly slammed the very poor quality of her own education under the Thatcher and Major Tory governments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Yep, but lost how many traditionally Labour working class seats in the last election? Big challenge keeping any of them Tory at next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Big challenge keeping any of them Tory at next election. Possibly, but Labour lost a huge section of their previously loyal supporters, that's my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, Smithee said: I don't think it's at all unfair to say she doesn't seem particularly intelligent. She's the type of person who can do what's necessary to pass exams. That is a form of intelligence but it's not very portable to the 'real world'. Liz Truss has very little of the type of intelligence one would wish for from a leader. This is why she was valued by Johnson (someone making him look better) and why the ERG love having her as their figurehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said: Possibly, but Labour lost a huge section of their previously loyal supporters, that's my point. If Truss can make Brexit a big issue again they have a chance. Though that could backfire if she can't show the benefits. And spend a lot of money in Northern areas. Edited July 27, 2022 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnrazor Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said: If Truss can make Brexit a big issue again they have a chance. Though that could backfire if she can't show the benefits. And spend a lot of money in Northern areas. It's a cluster **** mate and no doubt about it and just when you need a super hero to turn up, the get the political equivalent of Blunderwoman and ****in Cooperman😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Labour's PR team should have the easiest job in world politics. Straight from the horses mouth no less! This is as close to honesty as we'll ever get from Tory MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's difficult to know what either of the legacy parties stand for. One has become a parody, pseudo fascist, corrupt Junta and the other is trying to fill the void of conservatism left behind. What's staggering is people who have a choice, still choose to be a part of it all. It's mesmeric. I think it's hilarious watching these 2 slug it out to see who hates tory policies the most, but then I remember there are voters in Scotland, and on here, that prefer them to independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, XB52 said: I think it's hilarious watching these 2 slug it out to see who hates tory policies the most, but then I remember there are voters in Scotland, and on here, that prefer them to independence They would rather take it dry from the Tories. Weird behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I’m team Truss. 🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Latest leaders hustings is the bin fire office parody you'd expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Former diplomat's undiplomatic verdict on Boris Johnson & Lebedevs https://bylinetimes.com/2022/07/28/johnsons-visit-to-the-lebedevs-a-dire-state-not-a-deep-state/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum231 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 i think he resigned so he could avoid train strike. he will be back in september Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Callum231 said: i think he resigned so he could avoid train strike. he will be back in september So far this week No 10 sources (ie Boris Johnson) have been pushing a story about Tory members wanting him on the leadership ballot touted himself as Head of NATO looking for a deep blue seat where he wouldn't have to bother his arse with his constituency work He's a turd that won't flush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 The make up of this audience of Conservative members in the hustings in Leeds is unsurprisingly full of ruddy pink faced old white men. Sunak has got no chance 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 14 hours ago, RobboM said: So far this week No 10 sources (ie Boris Johnson) have been pushing a story about Tory members wanting him on the leadership ballot touted himself as Head of NATO looking for a deep blue seat where he wouldn't have to bother his arse with his constituency work He's a turd that won't flush The story is more that Johnson is waiting for Truss to implode and take over again. Truss is going to win and likes of Ben Wallace supporting her shows everyone knows it. Truss might have limitations and could make Labour a shoo in at next election. But she won't give in. I think she'll do okay. The challenges with cost of living and poor economic growth are too big for her. But you never know. Maybe tax cuts will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The story is more that Johnson is waiting for Truss to implode and take over again. Truss is going to win and likes of Ben Wallace supporting her shows everyone knows it. Truss might have limitations and could make Labour a shoo in at next election. But she won't give in. I think she'll do okay. The challenges with cost of living and poor economic growth are too big for her. But you never know. Maybe tax cuts will work. Dan Snow's observation made me chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Sunak performing quite well vs Andrew Neil here. Truss will end up in rehab vs the same badgering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Edit Truss isn't doing the Neil interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, Victorian said: Edit Truss isn't doing the Neil interview. Shitebag, just like Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Ray Gin said: Shitebag, just like Johnson. Utter shitebag And she'll claim to be tough enough to stand up to Putin. But Andrew Neil? Run a ****ing mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, Victorian said: Edit Truss isn't doing the Neil interview. Sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, Victorian said: Sunak performing quite well vs Andrew Neil here. Truss will end up in rehab vs the same badgering. He's really interviewing now for his next job. I think he'll get Foreign Secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobboM Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: He's really interviewing now for his next job. I think he'll get Foreign Secretary. Given the animosity between them on their approaches to the economy in particular they have ended up in an awkward situation. Cabinet government requires collective responsibility so they would have to go along with , and enthusiastically support, the policies of the other that they have spent 6-8 weeks rubbishing. It's equally difficult to exclude the other as a source for discontent outside the cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 23 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Sunak has got no chance 😂 And rightly so. He thinks there shouldn't be a border in Ireland (great for the republicans and nationalists, but, er, y'know). And he thinks Darlington is in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 27/07/2022 at 14:57, Irufushi said: I’m team Truss. 🙌 Apparently the European Commission is salivating at the prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Seen Truss saying she thought Johnson had done a great job last night🤡🤡 Her old man seems a bit miffed with her these days as well… More faces than the toon hall clock 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/boris-johnson-lords-cronies-legitimising-bribery?CMP=share_btn_tw Nice one Goaggsy but you’ll be oot with another intervenshun soon telling us to vote No again What an utter goon he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 39 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Seen Truss saying she thought Johnson had done a great job last night🤡🤡 Her old man seems a bit miffed with her these days as well… More faces than the toon hall clock 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/boris-johnson-lords-cronies-legitimising-bribery?CMP=share_btn_tw Nice one Goaggsy but you’ll be oot with another intervenshun soon telling us to vote No again What an utter goon he is! He's an absolute tosser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Irufushi said: Somebody’s on the westons…🤡😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Sunak blatantly lying!! Unless we’re rejoining the EU people are buying this nonsense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/boris-johnson-lords-cronies-legitimising-bribery?CMP=share_btn_tw Nice one Goaggsy but you’ll be oot with another intervenshun soon telling us to vote No again What an utter goon he is! I've a lot of time for Brown. The only time I've voted for Labour was when him and Sir Tony Blair were in charge. I'm tempted to give Sir Keir my vote now though. Rule Britannia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Somebody’s on the westons…🤡😂 YOU *******! Like you ain’t on it . It’s Friday ffs. team truss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Irufushi said: YOU *******! Like you ain’t on it . It’s Friday ffs. team truss. No touched a drop the night… Looking after my old man…😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I've a lot of time for Brown. The only time I've voted for Labour was when him and Sir Tony Blair were in charge. I'm tempted to give Sir Keir my vote now though. Rule Britannia 0/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: No touched a drop the night… Looking after my old man…😐 Tomorrow loon 🤞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Irufushi said: Tomorrow loon 🤞. The tavern😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: 0/10 Fecking hell. I thought I would get at least a 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: The tavern😋 one day I’ll get in the tavern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Irufushi said: one day I’ll get in the tavern. Two kegs of Tiger and a keg of Birra chilling as we speak… I’ll be knocking his door off it’s hinges aboot lunchtime the morn 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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