NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Its a tackle and ricochet liverpool player off his own man’s knee. The Real player has not played the ball. So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: How do they know Fabinho didn’t deliberately play that ball? Have they asked him? 🤣 😂 What was he trying to play then? Made no sense at all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I don't get the Offside rule anymore? If the goalie is further forward than the attacking player, then there has to be two defensive players between the attacker and the goalline if the ball is played forward???!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkishcap Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Different level of passing to what I'm used to🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Ref in studio only going on about Fabinho accidentally playing it back but fails to mention that Konate played it forward against Fabinho. Did he not see that or is it not relevant? Confused! i felt ferdinand should have pressed him more about it as it appeared to me ferdinand was talking about konate and not fabinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi_1983 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Surely irrelevant whether Fabinho meant that, as it was played on to him by the other Liverpool defender! Are they really trying to say if a defender goes for a clearance, and it accidentally hits off another defender in front of him and bounces through to a striker in an “offside” position, that it would be disallowed because the guy that had the ball booted off him didn’t mean it?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Bazzas right boot said: Exactly. But the cream of European football, yadda yadda.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. but what you are missing is the deflection by fabinho is from the ball being played by konate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: How the **** can a defender who wins the ball not have done it deliberately? Was he not trying for the ball, was it unintentional? Makes no sense, the ref made even less sense trying to explain it. I was thinking the same, he’s sliding in that direction to win the ball how can that be accidental or a deflection if the ball then travels in that direction straight to the forward. For me that’s a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, Fozzyonthefence said: Yes, a point that Peter Walton completely ignored. Surely relevant? No. It's the FINAL touch that matters. If the ball had gone straight through to him from the tackle the goal would have counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 How the **** has the Champions League final, turned into a discussion about Robbie Neilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. Tbf, More of a tackle from the Liverpool player. The deliberate part makes no sense. Both went to play the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Perfectly good goal, VAR fails on the big stage. Absolutely crystal clear that’s off the defender. Embarrassing for the officials. Benzema was offside when the Real player initially played it forward though. If the Madrid player doesn’t make that forward pass, then the Liverpool player doesn’t need to make that challenge and it doesn’t go through to Benzema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: 😂 What was he trying to play then? Made no sense at all, Mental decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrymac Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, rossi_1983 said: Surely irrelevant whether Fabinho meant that, as it was played on to him by the other Liverpool defender! Are they really trying to say if a defender goes for a clearance, and it accidentally hits off another defender in front of him and bounces through to a striker in an “offside” position, that it would be disallowed because the guy that had the ball booted off him didn’t mean it?!? In Scotland Rangers - Celtic - goal, for everyone else offside !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, NANOJAMBO said: So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. The deflection is from a liverpool player deliberately playing the ball not a Real player. You’re right it’s not difficult it is one hundred percent a fair goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, milky_26 said: but what you are missing is the deflection by fabinho is from the ball being played by konate I'm not missing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, NANOJAMBO said: So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. Depends on how much you dislike the team getting the break. Rules are rules I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Fraggle said: I don't get the Offside rule anymore? If the goalie is further forward than the attacking player, then there has to be two defensive players between the attacker and the goalline if the ball is played forward???!!?? thats always been the case. it states something like there need to be two opposition players between the attacker and the goal when the ball is played otherwise offside. there is no mention of one being a goalkeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, A_A wehatethehibs said: The deflection is from a liverpool player deliberately playing the ball not a Real player. You’re right it’s not difficult it is one hundred percent a fair goal. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Liverpool got away with one there for me. I thought the original ball to Benzema was offside but they never showed it back in slo mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hogfather Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, jambo89 said: Benzema was offside when the Real player initially played it forward though. If the Madrid player doesn’t make that forward pass, then the Liverpool player doesn’t need to make that challenge and it doesn’t go through to Benzema. That's not why they've ruled it out. They've deemed Fabinho didn't;t intend to play the ball to Benzema, which is a stupid line of reasoning. No player ever intends to gift the ball to the opposition. That's a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Rudy T said: I was thinking the same, he’s sliding in that direction to win the ball how can that be accidental or a deflection if the ball then travels in that direction straight to the forward. For me that’s a goal. Yip. Made less and less sense as it was explained, I don't think the pundits are any wiser either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jambo89 said: Benzema was offside when the Real player initially played it forward though. If the Madrid player doesn’t make that forward pass, then the Liverpool player doesn’t need to make that challenge and it doesn’t go through to Benzema. That makes sense, but the deliberate part was nonsense. The ref explanation wasn't what you say, it was a load of shite. Edited May 28, 2022 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, iantjambo said: How the **** has the Champions League final, turned into a discussion about Robbie Neilson? Welcome to Jambos Kickback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Who was doing that? 38 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Madrid approaching the final like we did v Rangers in the sc. 35 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Bobs a shitebag tho, Ancelotti is a tactical genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Could someone please lock Michael Owen in a cupboard. And why is Rio Ferdinand obsessed with saying cowabunga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Didi Hamann: "Madrid, psychologically, has the upper hand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I thought it was offside and check was to ensure Real player played it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, Gambo said: Read anything on the thread on the subject since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Just now, Cade said: Welcome to Jambos Kickback Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Ball comes off a Liverpool player twice before it gets to Benzema. Not deliberate but what Liverpool player would deliberately pass to a Rm player.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 RTÉ reporting people left outside the stadium after the game started, and possibly still left outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 The mistake all the English pundits have made is to not understand how Madrid control games. They benefited from Liverpool's press as it keeps them sharp. If Liverpool can't maintain the press fades Madrid will just pass through them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Yes, a point that Peter Walton completely ignored. Surely relevant? But it looked like Valverde got a touch after Konate’s original touch forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tazio said: Could someone please lock Michael Owen in a cupboard. I'm not sure they'd get him back out. Looking like a right wee chubby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fraggle said: I don't get the Offside rule anymore? If the goalie is further forward than the attacking player, then there has to be two defensive players between the attacker and the goalline if the ball is played forward???!!?? Seconds left in a game. Goalie goes up for a corner. Defender hangs back with one opponent forward. Other goalie catches the corner and punts it up the field with his teammate forward 1 foot over the halfway line, defender 1 yard over the halfway line. Is he offside? Weird rule if yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: The mistake all the English pundits have made is to not understand how Madrid control games. They benefited from Liverpool's press as it keeps them sharp. If Liverpool can't maintain the press fades Madrid will just pass through them. The game could turn. That tactic rekys heavily on the other team not scoring. Luck involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: So many people just not accepting the simple fact : the final touch is a deflection off a Liverpool defender in which case the Real player is offside. It's really not difficult and it's nothing new. What about Konate deliberately playing the ball forward though? It’s not simple at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Ulysses said: RTÉ reporting people left outside the stadium after the game started, and possibly still left outside. I've seen a clip on Twitter taken from inside the ground looking back to the entry gates. the riot police move to the gates , you can see fans being dragged out by stewards to be ejected and it looks as though the fans outside aren't interested in getting in. Possibly ticketless fans who breached the outer perimeter and who can't get in as they don't have tickets ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Never a free kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: The game could turn. That tactic rekys heavily on the other team not scoring. Luck involved. In fairness, they kinda cruised to the Spanish title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Game needs a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: But it looked like Valverde got a touch after Konate’s original touch forward? I thought he got the first touch then Konate played it forward against Fabinho. I’m sure the last 2 touches were the Liverpool players, 1 going forward and the other coming back off Fabinho. Disappointed nobody queried with Walton if that part was not relevant if Konate played it forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ulysses said: Read anything on the thread on the subject since? Yeah, you falling the boab patter.😄 There was a reason we had zero shots on goal in a major Cup Final? 🤪😁🤪 Anyway, all done now, this is CL Final, Liverpool(Klopp)v Real Madrid(Ancelotti), let's not bring RN to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, milky_26 said: thats always been the case. it states something like there need to be two opposition players between the attacker and the goal when the ball is played otherwise offside. there is no mention of one being a goalkeeper Always thought it was just one outfield player, but looking at it as a whole I am forgetting the goalkeeper would usually always be there. Dohhhhhh! Edited May 28, 2022 by Fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: I've seen a clip on Twitter taken from inside the ground looking back to the entry gates. the riot police move to the gates , you can see fans being dragged out by stewards to be ejected and it looks as though the fans outside aren't interested in getting in. Possibly ticketless fans who breached the outer perimeter and who can't get in as they don't have tickets ? Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Fozzyonthefence said: What about Konate deliberately playing the ball forward though? It’s not simple at all. It is simple. If Konate plays the ball forward from that tackle straight to a Real player the goal stands. But the final touch is off Fabinho's arse and so it then deflects to the Real player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 This is like watching SoccerAid. Was half expecting Woody Harelson to replace Allison at half-time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Real Madrid are so trudgid going forward, its no wonder the fans and board arent overly happy with the current manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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