The Old Tolbooth Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said: I read earlier on here that due to the date they offered him the contract we might’ve found a loophole round it. Correct me if I’m wrong… That was my understanding too, and why Arabs everywhere are gnashing their teeth over it, wee shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 United statement mentions '...was made a concrete offer...' Strange choice of words - sounds like they're well aware they may have dropped the ball and now trying to get out in front of the issue and convince everyone otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 That’s absolutely comical if they’ve made such a basic blunder to not offer him a contract within the required timeframe, so they get no compo 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: That’s absolutely comical if they’ve made such a basic blunder to not offer him a contract within the required timeframe, so they get no compo 😭 Probably been a problem with their fax machine. These things happen in Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I read earlier on here that due to the date they offered him the contract we might’ve found a loophole round it. Correct me if I’m wrong… Correct, looks like they made his contract offer less than 14 days before his existing contract expired meaning they lose out on compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braminho Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, JamboAl said: Probably been a problem with their fax machine. These things happen in Dundee. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Ummm no was just stating a fact but it's not a fact, dundee united left offering a contract to less than 14 days before the end of neilsons contract, we made some very lucrative contract offers to Souttar many many months in advance of his contract expiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ribble said: Correct, looks like they made his contract offer less than 14 days before his existing contract expired meaning they lose out on compensation Ouch. That’s a monumental feck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Shades of this signing. DU paid £750k for him and we got him on a bosman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboj Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: That’s absolutely comical if they’ve made such a basic blunder to not offer him a contract within the required timeframe, so they get no compo 😭 Seem to recall Everton doing the same thing a few years ago. Dan Gosling maybe? Sure he went to Newcastle for zip when they'd have been due some cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 So Dundee Utd have Dundee Hibsed it then 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 So we're getting Lewis Neilson for nothing? If so, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Is Lewis Neilson any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, indianajones said: Is Lewis Neilson any good? In Neilson we trust .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboj1 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Barack said: I blame Jamboj1... 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feej Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 DR saying Neilson deal could be done in 48hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) He's played 0 games this season and 9 last season for United and 8 for Falkirk. Not sure why the United fans are raging, it's hardly a Souttar moment. *Is Wiki giving gash info? Edited June 7, 2022 by Armageddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Armageddon said: He's played 0 games this season and 9 last season for United and 8 for Falkirk. Not sure why the United fans are raging, it's hardly a Souttar moment. Who is that youth player we have that Villa are sniffing about with a £250,000 offer ?? I am a bit pissed off if we let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Armageddon said: He's played 0 games this season and 9 last season for United and 8 for Falkirk. Not sure why the United fans are raging, it's hardly a Souttar moment. Had ankle surgery which ruled him out until early December. Was then punted on loan to Falkirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Armageddon said: He's played 0 games this season and 9 last season for United and 8 for Falkirk. Not sure why the United fans are raging, it's hardly a Souttar moment. Object lesson #1, don't get all your info from Wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Armageddon said: He's played 0 games this season and 9 last season for United and 8 for Falkirk. Not sure why the United fans are raging, it's hardly a Souttar moment. *Is Wiki giving gash info? it is 6 games in the league this season for dundee utd he played, including one against us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Who is that youth player we have that Villa are sniffing about with a £250,000 offer ?? I am a bit pissed off if we let him go. You dont really have a choice whether you let him go or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 He's only 19. 5 years younger than Jamie 'he deserves another chance even though we'll lose out on third and I'll moan like ****' Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Reminds me of Souttar in more than one way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, Cruyff said: So we're getting Lewis Neilson for nothing? If so, Apparently not, United say a concrete offer was made in Feb I think and they are due a "significant" training fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Object lesson #1, don't get all your info from Wiki Haha don't ruin my life please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, Armageddon said: Haha don't ruin my life please 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart500 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Waterboy said: United statement mentions '...was made a concrete offer...' Strange choice of words - sounds like they're well aware they may have dropped the ball and now trying to get out in front of the issue and convince everyone otherwise. Think the boy would probably have preferred cash to concrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, stuart500 said: Think the boy would probably have preferred cash to concrete. They offered him three tons of jute to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Apparently not, United say a concrete offer was made in Feb I think and they are due a "significant" training fee Saw on Twitter that it would be between 300-430k. Dundee Utd fans saying he’s shite anyway Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: You dont really have a choice whether you let him go or not Contract legalities or me.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Cruyff said: Saw on Twitter that it would be between 300-430k. Dundee Utd fans saying he’s shite anyway Who knows? Apparently he was not offered the contract before the 14 day dead line though so they would be due nothing surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruyff said: Saw on Twitter that it would be between 300-430k. Dundee Utd fans saying he’s shite anyway Who knows? No way we'd even pay the lower figure. Unless you neant to miss the "k" and its £300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sooks said: Apparently he was not offered the contract before the 14 day dead line though so they would be due nothing surely How would that be proved? Easy to print off an offer and change the date. I'm not sure how these things work. They maybe emailed him an offer, but we know email isn't very reliable in Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooks Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, Dick Dastardly said: How would that be proved? Easy to print off an offer and change the date. I'm not sure how these things work. They maybe emailed him an offer, but we know email isn't very reliable in Dundee Depends if they were willing to take the chance of committing very serious contract fraud I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, Dick Dastardly said: How would that be proved? Easy to print off an offer and change the date. I'm not sure how these things work. They maybe emailed him an offer, but we know email isn't very reliable in Dundee there would be an electronic trail regardless of whether emailed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: How would that be proved? Easy to print off an offer and change the date. I'm not sure how these things work. They maybe emailed him an offer, but we know email isn't very reliable in Dundee Mate that’s called fraud Edited June 7, 2022 by A_A wehatethehibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, kingantti1874 said: there would be an electronic trail regardless of whether emailed or not. I would assume his agent has some kind of record ( not as in a criminal one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said: I would assume his agent has some kind of record ( not as in a criminal one). yes. And you can’t hide a document creation date. In short, if Dundee have ****ed up then they have ****ed up. They won’t be forging anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Advanced talks! If it's getting to the press it's a done deal I'd imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Sertse said: Advanced talks! If it's getting to the press it's a done deal I'd imagine tbh with this amount of noise it is almost certainly a done deal and probably has been for several months. The club might’ve just kept it under wraps to see if Utd would blunder the compo. The boy has been free to talk to clubs since January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, adambraejambo said: I think that is well out of order. If he threw a fancy dress party it could he fun. It always good to let the big kid in you out and just pretend. I'd go as Indiana Jones. The host could go as a Hearts fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, maroonlegions said: Contract legalities or me.?? He's 15, so not on a pro contract with us yet. Club can't stop him talking to Villa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightrope Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Mate that’s called fraud Not in Dundee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Sooks said: Depends if they were willing to take the chance of committing very serious contract fraud I suppose 24 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Mate that’s called fraud "Football Fraud Shocker" 🤔 you are correct, there would never be a case of fraud in our beloved game... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: there would be an electronic trail regardless of whether emailed or not. Fair enough! I'm far from knowledgeable about how they offer contracts 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Mate that’s called fraud That’s the kind of thing Dick Dastardley would do 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Mate that’s called fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: That’s the kind of thing Dick Dastardley would do 🤷♂️ Not at all. I learned my lesson after the second time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Heard a few English teams in for Neilson also,including Leicester. City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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