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Tom Hardy’s Dug
1 hour ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said:

You make the Rev. I M Jolly look like a circus clown.

I’m generally considered a bit of a happy clapped.

 

I just happen to think our summer window didn’t go as well has planned or expected.

 

Whether you agree or not I’m not quite sure it is a hugely controversial or divisive view.

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When everybody is fit we are miles ahead of everybody apart from Celtic and Rangers. Beni to come back in the new year I think. If we can keep in touch with 3rd until then it's ours. Great window. 

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Well, still disappointing that no more will be added as we’ll find ourselves short more than a few times in my opinion. That being said, we’re better off now than we were on deadline day, so there’s that. It could be worse. But it should be better and I think a lot of us hoped it would be a lot better.

 

Some of that hope was based on our elevated status and budget as a team playing group stage European football. And other parts of that was ITK ‘knowledge’. Think the only one that was right in this window was about Davenport, which ended up not happening but was training with us so was legit ITK knowledge.

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Berra than you
1 hour ago, DH1986 said:

Season after season we always seem to leave ourselves short in the striker department.

 

Its almost like that position is not as important as the rest of the team. We currently have as many GK’s as we do strikers….it’s ridiculous.

 

RN is trying to be too clever and hope that the rest of the team score enough goals to ensure we don’t need any more than 2 strikers. We’ve been caught out once again and the Boyce injury has led to a last minute loan deal.


A fair bit of money was spent on buying Shankland and as yet he’s not left me hugely impressed with his overall contribution. It was always my fear with him…..if he doesn’t score a goal in a game he doesn’t offer much else.

 

We cannot go into another season left scrambling around looking for last minute loan deal for a Centre Forward. It’s really poor planning.

 

There appears to be this idea of building a strong squad from the back…..but by the time we get to that No.10 position it’s time to go back and start again and we are left with guys like Euan Henderson  running about up front.

 

 


 

 


 

 

In fairness we tend to only play one of each at a time so makes sense that we have the same number in the squad.

 

On a serious note I think we could've done with another striker, but I disagree that shankland doesn't offer much Uther than goals. I think his all round play is generally very good when we get bodies close to him, that's been the main issue for me. Something having an extra striker probably would solve.

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Bazzas right boot
2 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

They weren’t my signing targets they were Robbie’s. So I am lapping up his shite strictly speaking.

 

 

A Bobbie Jobbie? 

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Tom Hardy’s Dug
11 minutes ago, inspector said:

Any news on Kio's visa?

Yes - we should have pushed the transfer through weeks ago to avoid this pish 🤣🤣.

 

🤷

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1 hour ago, BelgeJambo said:

Maybe it’s an economic problem.

Every team wants a 20+ goals striker and this is probably the most expensive position to fill.  If you have one, you’re not going to let them go cheap 


But in my view it’s not a question of having several 20+ goal a season strikers. It’s just having back up to your 20+ goal striker in the form of several ‘specialist’ strikers who can chip in with a goal or two when called upon by providing something different. Instead we seem to prefer to have hardly any strikers and then, in the event of injuries/suspensions, use a winger or someone else to take the centre forward role, even though they may not have the experience to make the runs or take the best positions.

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10 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

Yes - we should have pushed the transfer through weeks ago to avoid this pish 🤣🤣.

 

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Pushed it through …………. how do we do that exactly …………. sounds great can you explain the methodology 

 

 

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August Landmesser
6 minutes ago, Sooks said:


Pushed it through …………. how do we do that exactly …………. sounds great can you explain the methodology 

 

 

Easy, just push it through, how hard can it be?

 

C'mon Joe, just push it through,FFS, push! 

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11 minutes ago, Sooks said:


Pushed it through …………. how do we do that exactly …………. sounds great can you explain the methodology 

 

 

 

We throw money at it from our unlimited supply.

 

Simple.

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3 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Easy, just push it through, how hard can it be?

 

C'mon Joe, just push it through,FFS, push! 

 

 

go | GIF | PrimoGIF

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One positive of the it all is we are not going to lose any players on a free at the end of the season. Humphrys is the only loan player and only squad players are out of contract. If we can secure 3rd again it will be massive and the experiences of this season will certainly help next year. 

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1 hour ago, OmiyaHearts said:

I'd have liked us to try a different set up in midfield and sign someone in the middle of the park who knows what to do when they cross the half way line. That might actually mean we can create something more than one or two half chances for Shankland per game.

 

At the moment, all we have are spoilers in there (Haring, Cammy, Kio), even Beni, who is technically good, is not that useful when approaching last third. Our only method is to get it wide to McKay or Forrest (or worst case GMS & Gino 😒 ), it's so one dimensional, teams will nullify us a lot this season.

We need options for a different approach to games but we haven't signed the players to do that. Hopefully Snodgrass can produce something, as no one else except McKay seems able to.

I think Grant is meant to be the ball player/attacking player from centre mid. I think the plan is Grant + 1 in centre mid when at home, and 2 spoilers away or when we're trying to be more solid.

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6 minutes ago, db211833 said:

One big positive I am taking from this thread.  My ignore list is looking extremely healthy.

I'll ignore that comment.

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29 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Easy, just push it through, how hard can it be?

 

C'mon Joe, just push it through,FFS, push! 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Staying within 3 points of 3rd by November shutdown would be decent enough, with clear sailing from December on, I would expect us to be more consistent and finish 3rd

I feel like this is a point missed by most. 

 

I was watching Celtic last night and they are so, so good. Incredibly well drilled and smart players in every part of the pitch. That's what you get when you can spend millions on signing fees and high 6 figs in annual wages in every position on the park.

 

Our task, in the short to medium term is to be 3rd more often than not and particularly now when that 3rd Euro place is in play. If we cement ourselves as truly the 3rd team in a way we've never done before then it's job done and we look to build after that.

 

We don't catch the Old Firm after 1 appearance in the Europa Conference and a £6m windfall. We get closer to them, in time, by getting ourselves in the position to get that windfall semi-regularly, can afford to get better players, attract players that want to use us as a window and then solidify as the clearly 3rd team in the league.

 

So if this wasn't a great window (time will tell. I think there's some good players, some great ones and some I'm very unconvinced by)we have the option to make the next one, or the one after that great.

 

We aren't in a rush. The club is 150 years old.

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23 hours ago, j1964m said:

 

 

Get 👆 OAN the big screens ... and get those LED floodlights flashing.

 

Superb! 👍

 

#co-ordinate the clapping

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7 hours ago, Ribble said:

 

No, there is only provision for when a club doesn't have 2 senior goalkeepers 

 

From 2nd Sept there are no changes to squads until the knockouts.

 

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/clubs/50120--hearts//squad/

 

Squad list above, Kio and Humphrys in, Snodgrass won't be eligible

Interesting mate. Gk and midfield undoubtedly stronger, defence and attack arguable either way imo

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2 hours ago, DH1986 said:

A fair bit of money was spent on buying Shankland and as yet he’s not left me hugely impressed with his overall contribution. It was always my fear with him…..if he doesn’t score a goal in a game he doesn’t offer much else.

 

Not disagreeing, but Shankland is an intelligent player who will improve the more he works with his team mates, especially the ones with good footballing brains too.  I feel a player like him starts slow, then gets better as the understanding of passes and positional strategies increase. At least I hope so!

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1 hour ago, August Landmesser said:

Easy, just push it through, how hard can it be?

 

C'mon Joe, just push it through,FFS, push! 


More fibre !  Nurse bring me the bran enema gun !

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7 hours ago, Mr Rabbit said:

Really good graphic which clearly shows that we’ve strengthened the squad.

 

Comparing to the end of last year we have upgraded on Moore, Woodburn and McEneff. The challenge was that Souttar and Simms were always going to be big shoes to fill. 
 

It’s too early to say whether Rowles and Shankland can be better than Souttar and Simms however in the short term I’d say it looks likely that they won’t. It’s nothing against Rowles and Shankland both of whom I think have been good signings but Souttar and Simms allowed us to push up the park.

 

I’m fairly happy with the squad however would probably like an aggressive ball winning centre back, to cover Halkett, and a quick/ physical striker who can hold up the ball and run in behind. The latter is very difficult to find so I won’t hold my breath.

 

Based on current recruitment I still think we’ve got enough to get us to third place this year.


We also have another window we may be active in. We did ok with it last year. 

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Malinga the Swinga
20 minutes ago, inspector said:

Don't ask. I did. Big mistake🤦

Did you lose it? I see Costa has his one and that seemed to take about 2 days. 

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HeartsandonlyHearts
3 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

I’m generally considered a bit of a happy clapped.

 

I just happen to think our summer window didn’t go as well has planned or expected.

 

Whether you agree or not I’m not quite sure it is a hugely controversial or divisive view.

Happy chappy? You hide it well. 😂

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1 hour ago, Pap said:

 

So you'd watch Celtic then? 💁‍♂️

Not being deliberately awkward but I wouldn’t. I agree with ri alban, to an extent. Would sooner watch a Livi-Motherwell game or similar than watch rangers or Celtic. 

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Ricardo Quaresma
13 hours ago, karipidis said:

One positive of the it all is we are not going to lose any players on a free at the end of the season. Humphrys is the only loan player and only squad players are out of contract. If we can secure 3rd again it will be massive and the experiences of this season will certainly help next year. 


That is a healthy thing for the next couple of windows

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12 hours ago, Pap said:

 

So you'd watch Celtic then? 💁‍♂️

I usually watch Celtic at least 4 times  a year. Usually twice each time when they play home and away. Sometimes I even watch them in a cup game too. I think there’s quite a few of us do as well. 

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46 minutes ago, SMJ_1874 said:

I usually watch Celtic at least 4 times  a year. Usually twice each time when they play home and away. Sometimes I even watch them in a cup game too. I think there’s quite a few of us do as well. 

 

The poster i was replying to wasnt meaning when they play against us.

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14 hours ago, karipidis said:

One positive of the it all is we are not going to lose any players on a free at the end of the season. Humphrys is the only loan player and only squad players are out of contract. If we can secure 3rd again it will be massive and the experiences of this season will certainly help next year. 


Good post 

 

I think this is some thing that is totally over looked by a lot of fans ………….

 

Players improve every season and I do not just mean the young ones the same applies to guys in their mid twenties onward as well

 

Playing against teams like tonights opponents Zurich and Fiorentina is a massive learning experience for our players and they will benefit from it massively even in defeat 

 

Next season players like Halkett Devlin Grant Kingsley and McKay will have moved their game up a level from this season and if any of our players were to get international caps on top of the European games then they will improve further still

 

If we finish this season with European group stage football confirmed again for next and our best players tied up on long term contracts then next season we will be on a totally different level 

 

If we get approaches for players next summer and they have European experience and national caps then we can legitimately tell interested clubs that they are worth x million to us in footballing rewards so we are not letting them go unless you offer us a better deal than that

 

Om the playing side of things guys like Kingsley and McKay or Cochrane and Shankland will have played against multi million pound opponents and will have learned a lot more from that than they have playing in the lower leagues in England EPL under 22 or the SPFL 

 

The same thing happened to players like Pressley Hartley and Webster the European and international appearances totally transformed them as players 

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4 hours ago, Pap said:

 

The poster i was replying to wasnt meaning when they play against us.

I know what you meant and I should’ve added a sarcasm alert to my post. I actually watched the Huns play in a eufa cup final in Manchester and was one of a very few handful that wanted Zenit to win. The aftermath of the salty tears was a true delight for me but not the vandalism and want went on in the streets of Manchester. Huns showing their true colours in defeat. Phuck them both 

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tartofmidlothian
19 hours ago, Cambo_Jambo said:

I feel like this is a point missed by most. 

 

I was watching Celtic last night and they are so, so good. Incredibly well drilled and smart players in every part of the pitch. That's what you get when you can spend millions on signing fees and high 6 figs in annual wages in every position on the park.

 

Our task, in the short to medium term is to be 3rd more often than not and particularly now when that 3rd Euro place is in play. If we cement ourselves as truly the 3rd team in a way we've never done before then it's job done and we look to build after that.

 

We don't catch the Old Firm after 1 appearance in the Europa Conference and a £6m windfall. We get closer to them, in time, by getting ourselves in the position to get that windfall semi-regularly, can afford to get better players, attract players that want to use us as a window and then solidify as the clearly 3rd team in the league.

 

So if this wasn't a great window (time will tell. I think there's some good players, some great ones and some I'm very unconvinced by)we have the option to make the next one, or the one after that great.

 

We aren't in a rush. The club is 150 years old.

 

Good post.

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17 hours ago, GinRummy said:

Not being deliberately awkward but I wouldn’t. I agree with ri alban, to an extent. Would sooner watch a Livi-Motherwell game or similar than watch rangers or Celtic. 

 

I'd sooner watch tennis than any of the above.

 

 

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RustyRightPeg
8 hours ago, Masonic said:

whats james forrest up to? 

 

could replace atkinson or play on the wing and move mckay into the centre behind shankland


Playing every so often for Celtic…not a free agent…

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Leveins Battalion

We need a Striker,that should of been the number 1 priority all Summer.

 

 

If we were planning on playing the same style as last season than signing Shankland to play that role was a massive mistake by management,he is hardly getting a sniff because he is not suited to our game.We have been left with a last minute loan who looks garbage.(Yes i have seen him twice now and i've made my mind up)

 

 

We can harp on as most of us crabbit old numptys have all Summer but the signs were there that our Recruitment was not up to much, the results are there for all to see now despite any excuses.

 

We are on a terrible run,out a cup at the 1st kick of the ball against a poor team at home,not playing great in the league, confidence and morale at rock bottom, i genuinely can't see where our next win or goal is coming from.

 

 

A terrible state of affairs given what has been ploughed into the club.

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8 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

Hope to **** we aren’t really done.

 

Another two needed really.

 

We already need a replacement for Humphrys 😂

Is he mentally fatigued? 

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11 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said:

Hope to **** we aren’t really done.

 

Another two needed really.

 

We already need a replacement for Humphrys 😂


Humphrys was decent last night. Have a feeling he’ll be fine. But we are short, no doubt about that.

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