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5 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Not only is it feckin irrelevant but he he's taken a piece from Wiki completely out of context so he can have a go by suggesting it's a USA driven thing - which it is not. 

The whole thing was driven by Ukraine and the USA adopted Ukraine's wishes. 

 

I think he's toiling as his precious brexit - and the traitors behind it - are now being ripped to pieces. 

He just has to have an argument. Doesn't matter what the topic, he just argues for the sake of it and best to just ignore his trolling

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12 minutes ago, jonesy said:

How come, bud?

 

Some folk turn to humour - as subjective as it is, TBF - to make sense of difficult times. Unless you've got hatred going spare, save it for the fact that there are sad truths in the droll scribblings of the likes of the Onion.


Yeah fair enough. Maybe looking at things to literally.  Sad as it is sanctions are our only option.

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43 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Although I don’t think it would come to that, I have been thinking about what I’d do in that kind of scenario.

 

And I reckon I’d do jail time before I was drafted. I don’t think I could bring myself to be shipped out to die for the sake of some ego-maniac, whilst being paid peanuts.

"Men of good fortune, often cause empires to fall
While men of poor beginnings, often can't do anything at all
The rich son waits for his father to die
The poor just drink and cry
And me I just don't care at all
Men of good fortune, very often can't do a thing
While men of poor beginnings, often can do anything
At heart they try to act like a man
Handle things the best way they can
They have no rich daddy to fall back on
Men of good fortune, often cause empires to fall
While men of poor beginnings, often can't do anything at all
It takes money to make money they say
Look at the Fords, but didn't they start that way
Anyway, it makes no difference to me
Men of good fortune, often wish that they could die
While men of poor beginnings want what they have
And to get it they'll die
All those great things that live has to give
They wanna have money and live
But me, I just don't care at all
Men of good fortune
Men of poor beginnings" 

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6 hours ago, ri Alban said:

I wonder if he was so upset when Leningrad was renamed or Columbia. :yadayada: 😭  

 

Some people :D

Why would a supposed extreme right wing Tory be upset about the renaming of Leningrad? 

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I don't know when this occurred - I'm assuming recently due to the "Tier 1 visa" coments - but it's interesting to hear what the sceret servcies think of Abramovich. Bear in mind, he didn't get his visa renewed automatically 2-3 years ago and actually left the UK at the time because of it.

The night before it all kicked off in Ukriane he  was on his "yacht" in Spain and legged it - him and a few other oligarchs. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I think we are all gonna be ok.

Noticed the Facebook profile pics have the Ukraine flag. If that can't fix it nothing can.

 

 

We are Ukraine 🇺🇦 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I think we are all gonna be ok.

Noticed the Facebook profile pics have the Ukraine flag. If that can't fix it nothing can.

Oh i know. Its nauseating. I can almost second guess which of my " friends" on it have this banner. I was right when i saw two this morning.  Some people couldn't even put out where Ukraine is on the map . One of my friends is a real right winger who wears his " stone island" clobber and thinks he is  the Scottish ***** Dyer.  I'm surprised he has this banner as hes a big fan of Putin. Other friend is older community education worker who puts every banner up  ( Free Palestine, Indy for Scotland, you name it.)  Love em both but the virtual signalling you can ram. 

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Fitzroy Pointon
8 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I think we are all gonna be ok.

Noticed the Facebook profile pics have the Ukraine flag. If that can't fix it nothing can.

 

Really winds me up that. Half These folk wouldn't know Kiev from Kyiv. 

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6 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said:

Armour, wooden armour. 

 

I dont think its armour. Probably transporting materials for buildings/bridges whatever although yes, would add some extra protection too.

 

57 minutes ago, Mister T said:

Looks like something you'd see in a celtic supporters bus park

 

Not far from the truth in fairness! 

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Well it certainly seems like the Ukrainians have put up some fierce resistance and,  if some comments are to be taken at face value,  the Russians have suffered some fairly heavy losses.  If the Ukrainians continue to resist quite so fiercely,  unfortunately Putin is only likely to get much more brutal.  Ukraine might end up becoming a victim of it's own heroism.

 

 

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Woke upto horryfying videos and pictures on Telegram. If you have it add Intel Slava Z or Counter Intelligence Global for stuff that doesn't make the news or local updates 👏🙌

 

Claiming 30 mins ago anti-fascist Ukrainians and Russin special forces stormed Government quarter

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Europe is ablaze but it's good to see it's "business as usual" for the Rouble-taking Tories.

Words fail.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/conservative-lobbying-row-westminster-russia-forum-unregulated-ukraine/

 

Concerns have been raised that unregulated pro-Moscow lobbyists at the heart of Westminster are using their links to Tory MPs to gain influence and respectability.

 

A group formerly known as the Conservative Friends of Russia (CRF) is advertising its first in-person conference for two years next week, despite Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on Thursday.

Now called the Westminster Russia Forum (WRF), the group’s British organisers often appear on the Russian state broadcaster, RT. The WRF, which loudly echoes official lines from Moscow, has links with numerous Conservative MPs and other senior UK political figures.

The WRF did not respond to openDemocracy’s questions on whether the event on March 4 would still go ahead

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4 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

 

 

**** being a reporter standing next to that. Key location that is more than likely to get pretty hostile shortly. 

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3 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

**** being a reporter standing next to that. Key location that is more than likely to get pretty hostile shortly. 

You gotta admire the balls of these people, especially bearing in mind the Ukranians re-took the airport (this is from yesterday) and the Ukranians are expecting another, even bigger airborne assault today. 

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7 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said:

You gotta admire the balls of these people, especially bearing in mind the Ukranians re-took the airport (this is from yesterday) and the Ukranians are expecting another, even bigger airborne assault today. 

 

Its pretty mental to want to do it.

 

That airport will be Russian controlled very soon you would imagine.

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40 minutes ago, chuck berrys hairline said:

Woke upto horryfying videos and pictures on Telegram. If you have it add Intel Slava Z or Counter Intelligence Global for stuff that doesn't make the news or local updates 👏🙌

 

Claiming 30 mins ago anti-fascist Ukrainians and Russin special forces stormed Government quarter

 

 

If anti facisists are fighting the government does that mean their facist and were arming the wrong people?

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BBC news flash that the Russian's are now in the northern suburbs of the capital. Street fighting is where things get seriously messed up if it comes to that. 

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1 minute ago, Tazio said:

BBC news flash that the Russian's are now in the northern suburbs of the capital. Street fighting is where things get seriously messed up if it comes to that. 

I joined the Telegram Group posted above by someone. Seems like street fighting has already started.

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44 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

Increased levels of radiation detected at Chernobyl according to Ukraine Nuclear Agency

Clarified by saying it’s dust kicked by vehicles ect moving around the plant. 

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3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

 It's little more than an easy propaganda label used by Putin and Co to discredit people who don't do what they demand. Like American republicans who toss out the 'socialist' and 'commie' insult at anyone not as extreme right as they are. Playground tactics, sadly.

 

 

It wasn't a Russian news report though. Surely if it was propaganda they would have called them pro Russian separatists or something.

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55 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

Increased levels of radiation detected at Chernobyl according to Ukraine Nuclear Agency

 

47 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

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🙈🙈🙈 Jesus **** , you do know the ground is full of radiation and between movement and discharge of weapons its going to disturb that. Its not going to send a Chernobyl like cloud across the sky again. 

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11 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Clarified by saying it’s dust kicked by vehicles ect moving around the plant. 


Thank **** for someone with a bit of rationality 🤘🏻

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1 hour ago, indianajones said:

 

I dont think its armour. Probably transporting materials for buildings/bridges whatever although yes, would add some extra protection too.

 

 

Not far from the truth in fairness! 

I've read that the wood is most likely to try and reduce their IR signature rather than armour. However I believe the Ukrainians have some very good IR detection equipment

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20 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Clarified by saying it’s dust kicked by vehicles ect moving around the plant. 

It would be a shame if those russian troops breathed in a lot of strontium 90

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6 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

I've read that the wood is most likely to try and reduce their IR signature rather than armour. However I believe the Ukrainians have some very good IR detection equipment


I would think something as simple as tinfoil would reduce the IR more than blocks of wood. Interesting though and its a loooong time since i was doing Sciencey stuff at Uni so I could be very wrong. 
 

Quick look online i came across this

 

Any electrically conductive material will block IR. The greater the conductivity, the greater the blocking. Aluminum foil will kill all IR, bot high range and low. Most plastics allow IR to pass through. Glass will bock low frequency IR (red hot), but allow the passage of high frequency (white hot) IR. Hence, the heat of the sun will easily pass into a greenhouse, but once this energy is converted into low frequency heat by the objects within that absorb it, then the resulting low frequency heat is trapped. Hence, the Greenhouse Effect.

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Just now, manaliveits105 said:

RT channel still spouting garbage - when does it get switched off why is it still available ?

Didn’t anonymous say they’d shut it down? 

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6 minutes ago, sadj said:


I would think something as simple as tinfoil would reduce the IR more than blocks of wood. Interesting though and its a loooong time since i was doing Sciencey stuff at Uni so I could be very wrong. 
 

Quick look online i came across this

 

Any electrically conductive material will block IR. The greater the conductivity, the greater the blocking. Aluminum foil will kill all IR, bot high range and low. Most plastics allow IR to pass through. Glass will bock low frequency IR (red hot), but allow the passage of high frequency (white hot) IR. Hence, the heat of the sun will easily pass into a greenhouse, but once this energy is converted into low frequency heat by the objects within that absorb it, then the resulting low frequency heat is trapped. Hence, the Greenhouse Effect.

I agree it didn't make sense to me unless it is something else that they are using it to block. Either that or russian science has regressed 200 years

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Some graphic and horrible stuff out there this morning. Ukrainians bravely fighting back but sadly I just think the Russians are going to have too much for them.

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19 minutes ago, sadj said:

 

🙈🙈🙈 Jesus **** , you do know the ground is full of radiation and between movement and discharge of weapons its going to disturb that. Its not going to send a Chernobyl like cloud across the sky again. 

Alright calm down sad 

Only pointed out what the Ukraine Nuclear Agency reported 😂😂

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Fitzroy Pointon

Put this RT on for a look. First item was the Ukrainians shelling a school, killing two children. 

 

Edit. They initially said children, it's now teachers. 

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10 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

I agree it didn't make sense to me unless it is something else that they are using it to block. Either that or russian science has regressed 200 years


Yeah its interesting thats for sure , sure there will be someone lore savvy or maybe military minded that can explain it further. Thank **** they dont have their Lun anymore

 

10 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

That's their website not the TV channel


Cheers , suppose that makes sense. I sort of assumed if it was the servers they could shut down the entire operation with how technology is run nowadays

 

7 minutes ago, GBJambo said:

Alright calm down sad 

Only pointed out what the Ukraine Nuclear Agency reported 😂😂

😇

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13 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Apparently Germany & Italy have blocked kicking Russia out of the SWIFT banking system.

 

I'm getting a vague recollection of the last time these pair tag teamed world peace......

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13 hours ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

The French also blocked it as well because they have a lot of banking debt they wouldn't get paid for. It's embarrassing. Funny money created by zeroes on a computer bailed out Greece. They could do the same here.

 

CNN were saying that Cyprus & Hungary in addition to Germany, France & Italy blocked throwing Russia out of the SWIFT banking system.

The reason being because their banks all have huge Russian debt.

 

France24 put some figures to that, by saying that French & Italian banks have around $25bn each and Austrian banks $17.5bn of Russian debt, which probably wouldn't be paid back if Russia was kicked out of SWIFT.

 

CNN had an interview with some financial expert, who said that Russia & China have developed their own version of SWIFT, albeit much much smaller and not as widespread, however if Russia were to be kicked out of SWIFT all they would do is further develop their own version more thus allowing payments for oil/gas etc to be paid outwith the normal SWIFT systems using the Russian SWIFT version.

 

Sounds to me like the Russians have been playing the long game here and have anticipated most/all of the moves the West would make and have put in place systems to mitigrate any sanctions/expulsions etc etc.

 

The US/UK/EU/West have been caught sleeping on all of this.

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chuck berrys hairline

🇷🇺🇸🇾 Assad in a conversation with Putin expressed support for a special military operation to protect the population of Donbass

 "The Syrian President expressed strong support for Russia's special military operation to protect the civilian population of the Donbass republics, while condemning the destabilizing policy of the United States and NATO, which at one time led to a serious degradation of the situation in the Middle East," the Kremlin's press service reported.

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Fitzroy Pointon
8 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

The BBC?

 

I don't watch it so not sure.

 

I mean, it's fair enough, it's a Russian channel but it's just amazing to see how they twist things to fit their narrative and it's the complete opposite of what we are hearing. 

 

They dismissed any reports of the Ukrainians fighting back, saying they have only seen them surrendering but then went on to state that there was reports of the Ukrainians shooting down a Russian jet (they added that it then hit a house, killing the occupants). They also laughed off any reports of Russian casualties. 

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42 minutes ago, milky_26 said:

I agree it didn't make sense to me unless it is something else that they are using it to block. Either that or russian science has regressed 200 years

Could also be to stop limpit mines being placed on the side of the vehicles. They are magnetic and so wouldn't be able to stick to the wood. Just a guess 

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25 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

The BBC?

I got my fingers well and truly burnt watching Bbc regarding covid so I’ll just avoid that channel . In fact best to ahiid mosh media outlets . I prefer twitter . Far more diverse information out there 

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Geoff Kilpatrick
1 minute ago, JamesM48 said:

I got my fingers well and truly burnt watching Bbc regarding covid so I’ll just avoid that channel . In fact best to ahiid mosh media outlets . I prefer twitter . Far more diverse information out there 

:cornette:

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On 24/01/2022 at 16:34, Greenbank2 said:

Is Russia really about to invade Ukraine or is this simply Johnson's latest effort to deflect attention away from his own monumental inability to demonstrate any kind of leadership?

 

USA needs to up the ante on its "enemies" to distract from their own economic mess (and allow grandpa Joe some breathing space for afternoon naps) - and expects its lapdogs to follow suit (UK will, Germany won't)

NATO in Ukraine is exactly the same as USSR in Cuba in 1963. What did/do they expect?

 

Easter European nations make overtures to the EU and NATO because their populations have looked west for years thinking "I'll have some of that". And when they do, what the west gets is increased demands for financial support, economic and criminal migrants, loss of jobs to low paid labour and the rise of right wing nationalism in these former eastern bloc countries.

 

So why should WE care what happens in Ukraine? This is about the west picking fights and Putin trying to show he's a big swinging dick. And Johnson trying to distract from his own lies.

Visionary 😂

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