Ray Gin Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, jamle1874 said: if we finish 3rd and one of the top 3 win the Scottish cup, we go into the Europa league play offs which is two games if we lose that we go into the conference league group stages with 6 games and if we win we go into Europa league group with again 6 games There's a euro conference league now? I'm so out of the loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Homme said: Totally agree. And you cannot have a squad that size that is quality. Not at our level. Quality players want game time. 20 max. Yep. That's about spot on 👌🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry hippo Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, HMFC_France said: I'm was thinking, Mackenzie Kirk seems very promising, why we can't give him a go ? Kirk is miles behind Henderson IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JyTees said: 26/28 is far too big a squad, Europe or not. That's been a major part of the problem for the past decade. Quality over quantity please. when you consider that we will have the european qualifiers and the league cup, then the league kicks off and we have european group stages, league cup and the league to go with, i don't think a 26 man squad is a bad idea. The key thing is who makes up that squad though. If 6 or 7 of those players are our own academy players, then no reason not to have them. They are young, hungry, on low wages and the future. So your Henderson's, pollocks, logans, brandons etc.. The last thing you need is Atkinson orBoyce or someone getting halved in a game against Alloa, when there is a Euro game against Galatasaray and a League game against the old firm coming up. If you let them play the league cup games (especially the group games), then your key players can be fresh for league games and europe. Then in the Jan transfer window, we will likely not have any European knockout games and lower clubs will be looking to strengthen. That is when those 6 or 7 players can go out on loan (or move into the first team if a beni devlin or Atkinson are sold). And we will work with a smaller squad for the last half of the season and for the Scottish cup. Just cause levein used to have 30 man squads of has-beens and duds, doesn't mean it is not possible to use it to our advantage! Edited January 25, 2022 by bobby bombscare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, bobby bombscare said: when you consider that we will have the european qualifiers and the league cup, then the league kicks off and we have european group stages, league cup and the league to go with, i don't think a 26 man squad is a bad idea. The key thing is who makes up that squad though. If 6 or 7 of those players are our own academy players, then no reason not to have them. They are young, hungry, on low wages and the future. So your Henderson's, pollocks, logans, brandons etc. If you let them play the league cup games (especially the group games), then your key players can be fresh for league games and europe. Then in the Jan transfer window, we will likely not have any European knockout games and lower clubs will be looking to strengthen. That is when those 6 or 7 players can go out on loan (or move into the first team if a beni devlin or Atkinson are sold). And we will work with a smaller squad for the last half of the season and for the Scottish cup. Just cause levein used to have 30 man squads of has-beens and duds, doesn't mean it is not possible to use it to our advantage! If we are in Europe we won't be in the league cup groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Agentjambo said: @Bongo 1874how close is the Japanese?? Just now, bobby bombscare said: when you consider that we will have the european qualifiers and the league cup, then the league kicks off and we have european group stages, league cup and the league to go with, i don't think a 26 man squad is a bad idea. The key thing is who makes up that squad though. If 6 or 7 of those players are our own academy players, then no reason not to have them. They are young, hungry, on low wages and the future. So your Henderson's, pollocks, logans, brandons etc. If you let them play the league cup games (especially the group games), then your key players can be fresh for league games and europe. Then in the Jan transfer window, we will likely not have any European knockout games and lower clubs will be looking to strengthen. That is when those 6 or 7 players can go out on loan (or move into the first team if a beni devlin or Atkinson are sold). And we will work with a smaller squad for the last half of the season and for the Scottish cup. Just cause levein used to have 30 man squads of has-beens and duds, doesn't mean it is not possible to use it to our advantage! This is what both Celtic and Rangers do, and this is why they can challenge on all fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: It quite incredible how many players, promising/ can't get a game would fit and suit playing for Hearts, I hope we can be successful as a football club first and foremost, but i would love too see the day when the club has achieved selling players for £5-£10mil because of how well we have done, as you say we are a great incentive if we are playing in Europe, Savage and recruitment team have done really well, I can't praise them enough, okay they haven't got every signing right, but Beni give us sell on value, Devlin sell on value, I hope the club can get the rewards for getting these players career's back on track or in the right direction, because realistically the only chance we will ever get close to the old firm is playing in Europe, and getting player sales. Savage and the team seem to understand this, times look so more positive than they did under the last regime recruitment wise anyway By Japanese player do you mean Ogashiwa or Ueda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Agentjambo said: How close is Japanese?? Wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Simms has 5 letters in his first name and his surname. I can see the Wordle-themed Twitter teaser now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Sertse said: By Japanese player do you mean Ogashiwa or Ueda? Ogashiwa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Why do we need such a big recruitment team if this is is the best striker they can muster up over two transfer windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Homme said: If we are in Europe we won't be in the league cup groups. my bad, thought that changed when we got more European spots, thought it just became the first 2. In that case we will still have the league cup games, euro games and league games from september till december, that is a lot of games for a max 20 man squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, pointon said: Why do we need such a big recruitment team if this is is the best striker they can muster up over two transfer windows Try be positive mate, this lad might be just like Beni needs a fanbase and club he can be loved and feel like he is apart of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pointon said: Why do we need such a big recruitment team if this is is the best striker they can muster up over two transfer windows you've been posting these kind of messages for about an hour now and everybody is ignoring them. Your either on the wind up or a hibby. I'm going for the latter... do you feel better now? did you get the attention you are so desperately seeking? Edited January 25, 2022 by bobby bombscare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, bobby bombscare said: my bad, thought that changed when we got more European spots, thought it just became the first 2. In that case we will still have the league cup games, euro games and league games from september till december, that is a lot of games for a max 20 man squad. We have the lowest squad number in the league. Defo will need more players next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Wait and see. 5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Wait and see. Another poster was on after the Scottish cup game saying Savage told him we aren’t even in for Ogashiwa?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Try be positive mate, this lad might be just like Beni needs a fanbase and club he can be loved and feel like he is apart of something. Hope so mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Batistuta87 said: This would be massive progress for us. Qualifying for Europe feels absolutely crucial if we want to keep cracking on. The financial rewards of playing those games alone would allow us to spend some money, perhaps increase the wage budget/cap, which will mean we can attract players who are that little bit better and ultimately reel in the OF that little bit closer. More Importantly guys like McKay might stay with us. We can build a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, bobby bombscare said: you've been posting these kind of messages for about an hour now and everybody is ignoring them. Your either on the wind up or a hibby. I'm going for the latter... do you feel better now? did you get the attention you are so desperately seeking? 😂😂😂😂 I need more attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby bombscare Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: We have the lowest squad number in the league. Defo will need more players next season. Yeah, and no better time to give the development players their chance in maroon. Might even find a couple gems that could then be used in the main squad moving forward should some of the other players depart, making us money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Agentjambo said: Another poster was on after the Scottish cup game saying Savage told him we aren’t even in for Ogashiwa?? Don't believe everything Savage and Robbie say, they keep everything secret and under wraps, they have been playing the media all transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, bobby bombscare said: you've been posting these kind of messages for about an hour now and everybody is ignoring them. Your either on the wind up or a hibby. I'm going for the latter... do you feel better now? did you get the attention you are so desperately seeking? He's a hibby, just ignore him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bongo 1874 said: Don't believe everything Savage and Robbie say, they keep everything secret and under wraps, they have been playing the media all transfer window. I for one hope you're right, I get the feeling that Ogashiwa is a top player and would score goals for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, XB52 said: He's a hibby, just ignore him Oh Dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Is there a stipulation that highlight videos are always required to have utterly sh1te music? Anyway, I have no thoughts on signing this lad, thought I'd just have a moan at the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, bobby bombscare said: my bad, thought that changed when we got more European spots, thought it just became the first 2. In that case we will still have the league cup games, euro games and league games from september till december, that is a lot of games for a max 20 man squad. No what I meant was a club like us can't really expect to have that many 'quality' players given our place in football's pecking order. When I said 20 I meant we would be doing great to have so many quality class players. Reality is we could likely have a good match day squad and then have to supplement it with youngsters or solid pros like Halliday that'll come in and do a job. You're right that a 20 man squad for Euro and domestic campaigns is too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 To all the sensitive ones a striker has been our priority/weakness for the passed to windows we don’t get that right Joe and his bag of experts have failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, pointon said: To all the sensitive ones a striker has been our priority/weakness for the passed to windows we don’t get that right Joe and his bag of experts have failed Quite a derogatory statement mate. One that seems to put the entire club down. Do you think decent strikers grow on trees for clubs in our price bracket?? The team need to do their due diligence and get a player who can score goals and play in our system. Personally, I think the recruitment team has done a fantastic job this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, pointon said: To all the sensitive ones a striker has been our priority/weakness for the passed to windows we don’t get that right Joe and his bag of experts have failed The scatter gun youtube approach worked well, please hibs now using that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, pointon said: To all the sensitive ones a striker has been our priority/weakness for the passed to windows we don’t get that right Joe and his bag of experts have failed The spelling and grammar give the game away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Agentjambo said: How close is Japanese?? About 5,735 miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JyTees Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, bobby bombscare said: my bad, thought that changed when we got more European spots, thought it just became the first 2. In that case we will still have the league cup games, euro games and league games from september till december, that is a lot of games for a max 20 man squad. I'd say 22 was about right. When you start talking about 28-30 in a squad you start to lose cohesion trying to keep everyone happy. Chopping and changing just for the sake of it. It's no surprise we've got the smallest squad we've had in a long time and we're having our best season. Quality over quantity 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackney Hearts Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said: He's not Ginnelly fast (never will be at 6'2") You do know Usain Bolt is 6'5" ? EDIT: I see someone has beaten me to it. Too slow as always. That's why I replied - I'm 6'4" and really slow. I mean obviously I'm slow now, but even at my peak 40 years ago I was a very slow No.9. Edited January 26, 2022 by Hackney Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunks said: About 5,735 miles Someone had to say it. 🤣 Google maps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroonblood22 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Signed Simms on Football Manager last year and he was the dugs baws, so for that reason… I’m in 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, cosanostra said: Someone had to say it. 🤣 Google maps? Elliss Simms of Everton watch this space striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I know nothing about Simms but he does look fast. Aside from that I love the 1970s era NBA name and hair style. Absolute classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 A couple people turning their noses up at Simms 🤣 If we start raiding premiership under-23's for our players then I'll be pretty happy tbh. We could do a lot worse than Simms. Happy to have him on board. I assume if its leaked in to the press it'll be a done deal before the weekend, unless Everton pull the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We wanted simms permanently in summer But he signed a new contract. Maybe we can still get him permanently as everton are bit of a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMc Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We wanted simms permanently in summer But he signed a new contract. Maybe we can still get him permanently as everton are bit of a mess. Certainly seem to be trying to relieve them of a few of their U23s. It looked like the Braithwait deal came close-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If we have money to use. Using it to get him permanently would be wise move. Big, strong and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Right. This lad may be dynamite. I have no idea… BUT Some slavering arse on here claimed that we would be signing a player that we would all be “very pleased with”. The suggestion being we all knew him and he is quality. Ive never heard of this lad (not saying hes not the next fans favourite or anything but not what was suggested earlier in the thread). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 OSimms is one I’ve mentioned on here a few times as someone we should have looked at. Was one of main reasons behind Blackpool’s promotion push at end of last season. They wanted him back but he was recovering from injury/operation (can’t remember which) over summer and earliest he was reported to be back was September. Personally I thought we should have pushed for 12 month loan at that point in time, even though we weren’t going to get him playing until after season had started. He was in make or break situation, as Beni was at Goodison going into last year of his contract this year. Rafa and club must have thought he could kick on with first team and he signed a new contract. Everton are in free fall at moment and are in real danger of dropping down if they don’t get act together. There are also clubs looking to sign DCL which would leave them light up front. Based on last seasons form he should be a real steal if we can get him for 6 months as he would offer us something completely different to what we have at moment. The fly in the ointment may be Blackpool if they go back in for him as he has a connection with club and fans there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.T.K Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said: Don't believe everything Savage and Robbie say, they keep everything secret and under wraps, they have been playing the media all transfer window. 🤔 So we cant trust what Savage or Robbie physically say, or the media, and everything is so secret... yet Bongo knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 hours ago, pointon said: To all the sensitive ones a striker has been our priority/weakness for the passed to windows we don’t get that right Joe and his bag of experts have failed .... My question is, what has been passed to these windows of which you groan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If he is this close to their first team then a loan is more likely compared to signing permanently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It has to be remebered that our new Head of Recruitment and Recruitment Analyst only came on board at the start of this season,already we have tied down Devlin,Benni and Atkinson on long term deals,signed Barry Mckay on a permanent deal and we have managed to get Gordon,Kingsley and Halkett on long tearm deals also.Thats 7 out of our 11 dealt with. Recruitment works on long term planning with guys who have only just entered the last 6 months now becoming our targets,nobody wants to have a team full of loans but we would have to say that Cochrane has been a success,Moore has offered cover where required and maybe only Woodburn has failed to deliver although i believe he is going back to Liverpool at the end of the season with neither party pursuing anything further. Signing a guy like Simms to see us through is a no risk sensible option,of course the way the window works players become available right at the death,Savage wasn't born yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Right. This lad may be dynamite. I have no idea… BUT Some slavering arse on here claimed that we would be signing a player that we would all be “very pleased with”. The suggestion being we all knew him and he is quality. Ive never heard of this lad (not saying hes not the next fans favourite or anything but not what was suggested earlier in the thread). That same poster only joined the forum like a week ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 hours ago, jimmy the jambo said: A blooming loan!! I hope this is wrong,Unless it’s due to contacts & we need a short gap till the summer? I think it's the right way to go.Then in the summer a striker coming on in a permanent deal has to be the top priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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